Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cambodia/Archive 5

2013 Cambodian Parliamentary Election
Hi yall! I created the Cambodian parliamentary election, 2013 article. Any further edits would be appreciated! For the images, is there any clear pictures of Sam Rainsy and Princess Norodom Arunrasmey somebody can upload? Thanks! KnightxxArrow (talk) 14:22, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Economy of Cambodia article review
Hi all! I've just finished some major edits to the Economy of Cambodia article. Any feedback, discussion, or further edits would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!Justinjyr (talk) 18:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Khmer help
Hi! I posted a request for help with Khmer stuff at Reference_desk/Language WhisperToMe (talk) 02:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

UNGEGN romanizations for city and province names, etc.
I believe that UNGEGN romanizations should be included in the infoboxes for geography-related articles. This romanization system is widely use for geographical names for Cambodia. And Google Maps also uses this. I must stress that it's only widely accepted for geographical names. So I don't necessarily endorse adding it to other Cambodia-related articles. --Dara (talk) 01:00, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Cambodia in 1992
Hope that somebody from this wikiproject can help. For List of World Heritage in Danger, I would like to know what the political situation of Cambodia and the role of UN were in 1992 (December). Nothing lengthy, just a short phrase. I wrote "UN controlled" but am not at all sure whether that's true. bamse (talk) 11:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

AfD
Could someone try to find Cambodian sources for Articles for deletion/The Red Sense? SL93 (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Photos, etc.
Being here in Sihanoukville at the end of ten days in Cambodia, I am inspired to help, but don't know if I'll have the time when I return, though I have added a couple of potential sources on the talk page for the FCC. I also have a bunch of pictures which could be useful for illustrating various articles. If you want to add any of these, I will be happy to upload a higher resolution image and provide necessary licensing. Matchups 02:17, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Cambodia will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Cambodia's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:34, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Karen Wikipedia
Hi! Do you know if Wikipedia has plans to make a Karen language version?

I ask because St. Paul Public Schools has a website in Karen: http://www.spps.org/karen.html

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 19:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Khmer language GA nomination
Hello all! I have nominated Khmer language for consideration as a Good Article. The initial reviewer has placed it on hold, listing some concerns (Talk:Khmer language/GA2). Any help answering the concerns and getting the article to pass as a GA is welcome.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 04:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

2012 Cambodian American infobox representatives open nomination period
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:19, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

2012 Asian American representative approval period (Now until 18 December)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:32, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Cambodian American infobox representative run-off between Haing S. Ngor & Dith Pran
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Khmer help
What is the Khmer for: Please post it in text so I can insert it into the articles Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 06:18, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * State Secretariat of Civil Aviation http://www.civilaviation.gov.kh/images/banner1.GIF
 * Cambodia Angkor Air http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cambodia_Angkorair_logo.png

Khmer Photo Help
I was in Cambodia last year and have a lot of photos that may be of use. What are some credentials I need for publishing photos?AshleyMichelleThompson (talk) 19:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Ashley. You don't need any credentials to upload photos to Wikipedia, but photos generally need to be released under a free license or they get deleted. If you go to Help:Introduction to uploading images there's a tutorial that will walk you through the process. Most of the images we use on Wikipedia can be found at Wikimedia Commons, a repository for freely licensed files that can be used on all Wikimedia projects. Commons has a category for Cambodia that can give you an idea of what we already have. Gobōnobō  + c 21:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Waterboard3-small.jpg
file:Waterboard3-small.jpg is listed at NFCR -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 08:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Grand Crosses of Royal Order of Sahametrei
category:Grand Crosses of Royal Order of Sahametrei has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 05:56, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Name change needed please
Dear friends, currently H.E. Sun Chanthol's page is misspelled as "Sun Chan Thol". I am a close friend of his and he has asked me to please have his name spelled correctly so that people can reference him correctly in wikipedia. I would be glad to verify personally this request if need be, but I cannot seem to pursuade one editor that this is not a transliteration for some reason because some media has misspelled his name in the past. Can someone kindly change his page title from "Sun Chan Thol" to the correct spelling "Sun Chanthol". He would be grateful for that courtesy on his behalf. Msny thanks. PeterBachner (talk) 09:53, 9 October 2013 (UTC).
 * Done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.229.44 (talk) 02:47, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Law enforcement in Cambodia
I'm trying to update the article Law enforcement in Cambodia, but it's not easy finding sources. The one I have is a paper that dates from 2000 - things can have changed. There's also a website for the Ministry of Interior, but it's in Khmer. Can anyone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.229.44 (talk) 02:50, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

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Zoos and other tourist attractions
I created Kampot Zoo, Bayap Zoo and made Template:Zoos of Cambodia and. More will come. Pictures from all Zoos in Cambodia are welcome Dan Koehl (talk) 23:28, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Help with stub: Kingdom of Cambodia (1975-76)
Hello, I noticed there was a gap in the former states of Cambodia so I created Kingdom of Cambodia (1975-76); any help in expanding this stub would be much appreciated. Cheers, walk victor falktalk 04:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

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Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses
Pleas add information about this country to this articles.--Kaiyr (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Need help with moving/creation of article
hi everybody! The article on Sihanoukville has been created in 2005 or so - i presume without clear geographical definition - there used to be any sort of content in it, relating to both, the city and the province too....i went through the entire content around a month ago and did a general clean-up. The article is now explicitly subjected to the province, although content needs further sorting. I have by now relevant content to create the "city" article. Anyhow - I tried to move the existing article to: "Sihanoukville province" - didn't work. Creating an article "Sihanoukville province" or "Sihanoukville city" doesn't work either - because creator redirects to existing article.

Any suggestions? ...and thanks a lot for your attention!!! I am grateful for any reply! All the best!!!Wikirictor (talk) 21:36, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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someone should clean up here
i am new here, but i have the impression the place is unpopular...the content needs updates and improvements. just one example, someone suggested: "Truth History on South East Asia and the Chinese Invading" Wikirictor (talk) 11:25, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Romanization
I've been trying to tidy the article Romanization of Khmer, in spite of not being in any way knowledgeable about the subject. Any expert help would be appreciated. In particular, I'm wondering about the "Table" section, which includes two columns for "official" transcription systems, even though these are not mentioned in the text of the article (and references to purported "official" systems appear to have been removed from the article in the past). Is there such a thing as an official Romanization, and if so, does anyone have any sources for it? If not, those columns ought to be removed from the table, and then the table could probably be removed completely. W. P. Uzer (talk) 19:19, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought not, so I removed the table. If recreated it ought to be done with the systems that are actually mentioned in the article. W. P. Uzer (talk) 18:48, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

RfC at Cambodian genocide denial
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article suggestion
Hi! I suggest to create an article on "special economic zones of Cambodia". There are many and they account for a sizable share of the economy in these areas etc.

Wikirictor (talk) 17:45, 15 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Not a bad idea. I have started gathering sources and writing content offline. I will move what I have to article name space within the next few days.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 06:59, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I also added a section on Cambodia to our general article for Special economic zones.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 08:02, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Awesome! I am going to make some photos, wherever i can. Wikirictor (talk) 10:19, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I haven't had as much time as I'd have liked so I just put the intro I had written up as a quick stub at Special Economic Zones of Cambodia. I have a general idea for the article outline that I'll be filling in as time permits, if nobody else gets to it first.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 11:16, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Great job! Something to work with. Wikirictor (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hard Choices, new article about book on humanitarian intervention
I've created a new article about the book on humanitarian intervention, titled, Hard Choices: Moral Dilemmas in Humanitarian Intervention.

Help with suggesting additional secondary sources would be appreciated at the article's talk page, at Talk:Hard Choices (Moore book).

Thank you,

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Infobox image discussion
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Province/City/Town articles starting to look like tourist guides again
The province/city/town articles need some cleaning up and re-organizing. Many of them only consist of a short introduction followed by an "Attractions" subheading that lists all the tourist hot spots and by which city a tourist may access the sites. This all makes the articles look more like tourist agency brochures than encyclopedia articles. For comparison, Berlin and Madrid, after extensive "History", "Demographics", etc. sections, have sections titled "Culture" and "Arts and Culture" which list cultural places of interest or events important to the city, not just tourist destinations.

Some examples: Battambang, Siem Reap, and Sihanoukville (city) (in this one, why is there a list of beaches with hotels that serve them?).

I think many of the places listed under the "Attractions" subheadings could legitimately be included in the articles, but they are much more than just attractions for foreigners...in many cases they are centuries-old cultural monuments with significant importance and sources of pride with deep meaning to the Cambodian people. Considering them merely as "attractions" is insulting and at the very least, the title of those subheadings should be changed to something more appropriate. Additionally, IMHO, instead of the current list format, the sections should be written in coherent paragraphs explaining the significance (i.e. what makes it WP:notable and worth of inclusion in an encyclopedia article) of each site. Unfortunately, I don't have much time to devote to Wikipedia anymore, nor will I for the foreseeable future, but hopefully we can all work on this problem and get it take care of sooner rather than later.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 06:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I am the editor for Sihanoukville (city). Although by now the vast majority of its content is new, i adopted the general structure of the former Sihanoukville article, which had a "beaches" section. So i kept it. I think that these beaches are a very distinctive feature of the city and they have a rather great economic and cultural significance. I actually made sure, that business names are being avoided, apart from the Independence Hotel, which has a certain cultural, national and historical significance - and the Sokha 5-star resort - which the Cambodians seem to be so proud of. Maybe i remove the name of this one. Thanks for your helpful assessments!!!

ATB Wikirictor (talk) 23:20, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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Democratic Kampuchea religion
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Inconsistent romanization
The article Stung Treng Province uses two different spellings, about 50/50: They should be standardized. See Talk:Stung Treng Province -- Thnidu (talk) 22:45, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Steung Treng
 * Stung Treng

Help with an article
I need some help with an article, Mrenh Gongveal. This article was created in tandem with one about a book discussing this topic, Mrenh Gongveal: Chasing the Elves of the Khmer. The problem here is that the article relies heavily on sources that the author used while researching his book, without anything to prove that these sources actually explicitly back up his claims. Some of them look like they're academic sources, but I can't verify if they explicitly mention this specific being. A search for the term itself in English brings up nothing other than hits for the book and a rudimentary search for the term given in Khmer, "ម្រេញគង្វាល", (using Google Translate) doesn't really bring up anything. This is likely because Google Translate tells me that the term is basically "elves" in Khmer so it's unlikely that it'd bring up anything useful. I tried searching using the variations of the spelling and only brought up more hits of stuff by the book's author.

I'm going to list this as a PROD, but I did want to give this one last fair shake by asking for help here. If you can provide sourcing then this article will likely need to be fairly heavily re-written in order to ensure that all of the original research is removed. I can't shake the feeling that this article was written with the express intent to promote the author's book. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  09:06, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * ម្រេញគង្វាល (better transliterated as Mrenh Kongveal) are beings or spirits in Cambodian folk religion. They are believed to exist wherever groups of animals congregate. From Headley (1977): "...a kind of ghost (or elf) which is believed to take care of wild animals in the forest. People often pray to them to protect farm animals....or a kind of fairy or elf which resembles a child and is believed to watch over animal herds." They are also mentioned in these reliable sources: here, here, and here just to name a quick few.  It's bedtime for me now, but if nobody has gotten around to it by tomorrow, I will see what I can do with the article. It is a legitimate topic for an article, please consider removing the PROD and just tagging it with something appropriate (COI, sources, w/e) in the meantime.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 10:38, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

circle dance music
Hi WikiProject Cambodia,

In going through reviews of the American-published compilation album Cambodian Rocks, I keep coming across references to "circle dance music" to describe musical trends of the 60s-70s which fused with western psychedelic/garage rock/pop to create the incredible music on that album. I noticed circle dance music is a redlink, but figure it's likely because of the translation. Is this genre the same as romvong? Apologies for my ignorance. If the answer is no regarding romvong, is there another article in which the topic is covered? Thanks. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 04:08, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes. រាំវង់ (romvong) translates literally to "circle dance" and is the same as "circle dance music".--William Thweatt TalkContribs 04:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Aha! Thanks. Do you know if it's appropriate to also talk about romvong as a style of music? The romvong article (which, granted, obviously needs work) doesn't really go into it. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 05:33, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Technically, romvong refers specifically to the dance but it is commonly used to refer to the music as well -- we do the same in English (e.g. "play us a waltz"). chumrieng romvong ("romvong song") or phleng romvong ("romvong music") could be used if it were necessary to disambiguate or emphasize that one is talking only about the music.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 09:42, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Translation request
Hello, please help me translate the following:


 * Please do not contribute text in Khmer to English Wikipedia. Your contributions are more than welcome at the Khmer Wikipedia.

It will be used to create a warning template at Template:contrib-km1.– Gilliam (talk) 06:25, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Notability: The Killing Phone
Can anyone help look at this article? I can't find any sources to support it meets WP:NFILM or WP:GNG, but it's really difficult when I don't know much about the topic area or language. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:19, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The problem with establishing notability for Khmer films is that there is very little online. The modern Khmer film industry is in a sad state. There is little funding, little talent and even less originality. Modern Khmer films are usually low-budget remakes of foreign films or classic Khmer movies. There is no serious film critic industry or even review sections in newspapers as we have here in the West. Mention of a particular film only makes it into the media if it causes controversy (usually in the form of government condemnation), stars a famous popular singer, or if there is some marital scandal involving a popular star. Oftentimes even the most popular movies are only mentioned online on websites selling DVDs and Khmer blogs/forums. This particular film was fairly popular at the time and was ubiquitous in DVD/rental markets but I can find nothing online (even in Khmer) that would be usable to support either guideline.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 09:07, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

French Indochina
Hello,

I am trying to find a cambodian translation for the official name of French Indochina. It actually had two official names, Indochinese union (1887-1941) and Indochinese federation (1941-1954). Can anybody help me find the khmer translations for these two ? By the way, the article currently gives សហភាពឥណ្ឌូចិន as an equivalent for French Indochina (unofficial name) but google translates it as just Indochina. Is that correct ? Thank you. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 07:47, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The words you quote from the article mean "Indochinese Union" (សហភាព means "union", ឥណ្ឌូចិន means "Indochina"). សហព័ន្ឋឥណ្ឌូចិន is the Khmer for Indochinese Federation.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 08:41, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot !! By the way, I'm also looking for the translations in Lao, Vietnamese and Chinese. Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 12:10, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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The Haunted House
The Cambodian film The Haunted House (2005 film) is nominated for deletion here: Articles for deletion/The Haunted House (2005 film) (2nd nomination). I cannot find any good English-language sources myself. Can anyone find Khmer-language sources and share them at the AfD? Thanks, Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 16:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I actually came here to ask for this as well. Right now there's an argument that Amazon reviews and YouTube views should be a sign that the film would be notable and have coverage in its country of origin. I don't doubt that there is coverage, but right now we have no actual proof of that and we'd need at least a little something in order to really justify and solidify a keep, as that's the type of argument that can easily be argued against at DRV or in another AfD. It's most likely that there's coverage in Khmer. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  19:40, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

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