Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada Streets

U of T
copied from User_talk:Floydian - This is no longer in my hands. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  07:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Copied from User_talk:Floydian

 * No it doesn't. It shows there is a building, a road, and a forest between the two. Does Google Maps indicate whether that forest is part of the U of T property? No. Its original research. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  05:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The brown shading is the campus. This is getting childish. --Oakshade (talk) 05:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You're right. Stop using unreliable references and making terrible edits and you won't have editors hounding you to clean up your act. Google maps does not indicate property lines, its entirely assumed by the map makers at google or navteq. Find official property assessment rolls. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  05:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Assumed by the map makers? Wow.  Please point to any evidence that any school boundaries indicated in Googlemaps are "assumed by the map makers."--Oakshade (talk) 06:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This is absolutely absurd. Can you show me the standards for the route description section which state that institutions must have a physical mailing address on the road they prominently occupy? I suppose a page about Keele Street should omit mention of York University, since most (none?) of their buildings have Keele addresses. Massey Hall is not on Yonge Street, should the reference be removed from that article as well? While Floydian is hacking away at articles according to undefined standards, I'm done contributing to street articles. I would be willing to work toward a STANDARD for *Canadian* *street* pages, *separate* from Ontario highways. Mappetop (talk) 06:06, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Because there are no digital copies of the assessment rolls and Google Maps is digitally compiled. Regardless, its not a reliable reference for property lines. Start a discussion at WP:RSN and see if anybody endorses the use of Google Maps to point out where a property ends. Regardless, Canadian streets are being branched into their own project. Be sure to sign up so you can help forge the guidelines.
 * There is clear difference between York U, which is only related to Keele, and U of T which is more related to Ellesmere and Military Trail. Would we include Centenary Hospital because its property is nearby Morningside? Should we include Colonel Danforth Park, since you reach that by following a bike path off of Morningside through U of T? U of T has no connection to Morningside. Should we include the CN tower on John Street? The Rogers Centre on Spadina? -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  06:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * York U Keele Campus is only related to Keele Street? I suppose Steeles Avenue is a mirage then? The Scarborough campus is less than 250 m from Morningside Avenue and is prominently visible from the street, and, NOTE, is the ONLY institution occupying the street for a long stretch. Have you ever been there? I suppose that "Be polite" admonition at the top of talk pages is just a platitude. WHERE is the standard for Route Description? Otherwise, this is just your opinion. Mappetop (talk) 06:24, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's on another road. Do we need to mention it on all three articles? WP:HWY should have the standards, though I'm not sure if they're up there yet. Don't worry, you guys will have your own project to make as many articles as you please. Unfortunately mappetop, you'll be the only person in it that actually cares about quality and not quantity. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  06:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And I'm aware of civility. I don't have to be civil on my talk page, and I've reached a point of extraordinary frustration. So no, I'm not going to be friendly. Deal with it. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  06:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, WP:CIVIL applies to all Wikispace. And there already has been a discussion about maps as reliable sources. Wikipedia_talk:No_original_research/Archive_36.  They're reliable and not WP:OR. --Oakshade (talk) 06:36, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well then take me to ANI and let everyone know that I'm being a dick on my talk page but following protocol elsewhere.
 * Maps are reliable for measuring distance and the route something takes. Nowhere in that discussion are property lines mentioned. Maps do not reliably indicate property lines unless they are a government issued map of property lines. Toporama, provided by Natural Resources Canada, has property assessment information on it. It is a reliable source for property lines. Google maps is not. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  06:42, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, please point to the evidence ANYWHERE that any school boundaries indicated in Googlemaps are "assumed by the map makers."--Oakshade (talk) 06:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I gave you a reliable reference. It is better than Google Maps. Please leave me alone and just use it instead of arguing to use a source that anybody would argue is far less accurate. I will start a discussion since you can't be bothered. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  τ ¢  06:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, you're the only person I've ever encountered that claimed that content in google maps is "assumed by the map makers" yet now admits they have absolutely no evidence as such. Sorry, Wikipedia goes by reliable sources, not one editor's completely blind speculation of them. --Oakshade (talk) 06:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Most map information is assumed by map makers. It's a career actually. Surveying and Cartography. Map makers independently go out and map things. They often put mistakes on their maps so that other publishers can't copy them. I made a thread at WP:RSN, so we will see what other people have to say. You obviously can't provide evidence to the contrary. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  07:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * So you have evidence that the boundaries of the University of Toronto Scarbourgh are in fact intentional errors so there's no googemap copyright violation or is this just your original research? --Oakshade (talk) 07:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No. I don't have evidence that Google knows where the property line is. There is no indication anywhere that they would. Any commercial map publication is the same. Why won't you just use Toporama? Its a better source! -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  07:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

importance
I noticed that a lot of street articles got autotagged and autoassessed with the same importance grade as CRWP. Shouldn't the importances be different, atleast for some articles? 65.94.45.238 (talk) 07:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably. Most of the streets were tagged as low important. The project should decide on a method of rating the articles and have someone who can use AWB go through and change them all quickly. My efforts are very unwanted, so I won't interfere with anything besides setting up the backend. Feel free to set new standards, article structure, etc. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  07:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

highways
I noticed that a some highway articles have moved to streets. Someone needs to go through the wikiproject bannered articles and re-add CRWP banners to those streets that are also secondary highways. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 07:26, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Any secondary highway shouldn't be in this project at all (just city streets). Just an accident of the transfer. If you happen to come across any, it generally just means undoing the last edit to the talk page -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  15:27, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * And in all honesty, Taschereau Boulevard would not be a CRWP article. Quebec Route 134 is, but Taschereau is just a section of that highway that is an urban street. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  15:34, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Taschereau is almost the entire length of the highway. Some highways are entirely contained on city streets. This highway is contained on three streets, a bridge and a 2km limited access stretch. Though since you say that this is how HWY and ST WPPs are divided, I'll follow that. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 20:07, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * It comes down to the format. City street articles are proposed to cover transit, shopping and community information that highway articles generally do not go in-depth into. -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  22:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

RFC on coordinates in highway articles
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Discussion regarding Ontario navboxes and categories
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