Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cardiff

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Local chapter for the Wikimedia Foundation
AndrewRT(Talk) 22:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people
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Ikip 02:07, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Bus routes in Cardiff
I have begun a project to create an article for every Cardiff Bus route in the city. I would very much welcome any help. Ideally, they should follow the pattern of Baycar and Capital City Red for consistency. Information on the route can be obtained from the horse's mouth at cardiffbus.com. History of the routes can be googled and found at Bus transport in Cardiff. Any die-hard participants can find numerous books on the history of bus route in Cardiff on the 5th floor of Cardiff Central Library. Thanks Welshleprechaun (talk) 13:13, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Historic council records
Just stumbled across these while I was looking for guildford crescent swimming baths - it's council records from 1895-6 it's full of things like.

"Lord Tredegar's Solicitor writes that, if the Corporation will speedily make the road from Roath Church to Pen-y-lan, including a bridge over the brook, he will present to the Corporation the land south of such road, containing about three acres, for the purpose of being converted into public gardens. Also that Lord Tredegar has decided to give the Corporation as much land as they require for the widening of Albany Road, from Roath Church to the north end of Wellfield Road, near Roath Park.

Vote of thanks to Lord Tredegar for the same."

I think it's quite a spectacular resource so I thought I'd better flag it up to other people EdwardLane (talk) 08:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Culverhouse Cross
The ITV Wales studio, while addressed as being in "Culverhouse Cross", is actually in the Vale of Glamorgan according to the Boundaries Commission. Is it not then technically in Wenvoe? How does this work? --195.171.87.18 (talk) 11:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The address is Culverhouse Cross, Cardiff, CF5 6XJ, but I agree, the boundary between Cardiff and Vale of Glamorgan Council seems to run along the A4232. It seems that when the retail park was developed it was a sly bit of territorial expansion! Sionk (talk) 12:10, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm actually old enough to remember it opening, and it is definately in Wenvoe. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:17, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * They often give their address of factual programmes, such as the news or The Ferrett, which give the address as Culverhouse Cross, Cardiff.  Welsh leprechaun  19:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should include the Wenvoe Transmitter in the List of tallest buildings and structures in Cardiff?! Sionk (talk) 11:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Please help get the Cardiff area ready for the start of the Wiki Loves Monuments competition on 1st September
This September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition Wiki Loves Monuments. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed buildings of significant importance (grades I or grade II*), as recorded by Cadw. The main external website for competitors can be found here, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people?

In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible buildings are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at Listed buildings in the United Kingdom you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the link to Listed buildings in Wales, you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the WLM planning table. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented?

Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by Cadw. These use pre formatted templates (eg Cadw header) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international Monuments Database.

The data still needs the attention of local editors:
 * The "title" may need wikilinking to a suitable article name (whether we currently have that article or not). If there are several buildings in one street all of the wikilinks point at an article about the street; however each entry has a separate line in the list.
 * The "location" column looks and sorts better if just the parish or town is included (& wikilinked).
 * The "date completed" column sometimes has eg "C19" for 19th century, and "C1850" for c. 1850 when the date is uncertain - these need to be corrected manually.
 * The "grid ref & lat & long" (which is occasionally missing) may be given to 8 characters — only 6 (grid ref) or 5 (lat & long) are really needed.
 * Clicking on the "list entry number" should take you to the data sheet for that entry on the Cadw database which can be checked if needed for details.
 * The image column should have a picture added if we already have a suitable image on Commons. (N.B. if you are going to be taking photos yourself for inclusion in the competition don't upload them until September)
 * References may be added according to normal WP practice.

For further information, please see [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_United_Kingdom Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom. ]

If you have any queries, please post them not below but on the Organizers' help page on Commons.

Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. '''The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August.

--MichaelMaggs (talk) 12:07, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Coincidently I created the Listed buildings in Cardiff page earler this year and, comparing it to your list of "to do's" it is now in reasonable shape (I can see WLM has already reformatted some of it). Anyone that wants to create separate articles about the various neighbourhoods of Cardiff is more than welcome to do so. There are very many Grade II listed buildings and monuments in the City Centre in particular, so if anyone wants to continue to add to the existing incomplete list that would be great! Sionk (talk) 13:17, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

South Wales Coast Path: does it exist?
Can I ask you to take a look at this request to delete the article on the South Wales Coast and Severn Estuary Coastal Path - and contribute to the discussion. Many thanks and diolch! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 02:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Pathe news now has uploaded everything to youtube
Lots of good stuff about cardiff in here EdwardLane (talk) 00:38, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

20-20 Vision of Wales
More than 60 new articles based on Welsh themes have been created by users all over the world in nearly 20 languages in the last few days as part of the Living Paths Project. If you feel like joining in the fun, please do so here. Please aan you ensure that the info on the 20 English articles are up to date etc, as they are being translated as I type. Diolch i chi i gyd! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 14:39, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Cardiff/Penarth victorian subway
this looks like it should have an article of its own but if you were trying to put links to it that would clearly be in penarth docks, and the river ely article I guess, but which cardiff articles should mention it ? EdwardLane (talk) 08:39, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it was known as the Ely Subway. There's a description with three refs in River Ely, and two photos in c:Category:Ely Subway. Your source is archived here. It would be good to either create a new article or expand the description in River Ely, with a redirect. Verbcatcher (talk) 01:42, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon
Hi. The The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, we have over 44,000 stubs! A good opportunity to improve stubs for your area!♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:08, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

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This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Common Ground Alliance
A deletion discussion is taking place at Articles for deletion/Plaid Cymru, Green Party, Common Ground which may be of interest to members of this project. Sionk (talk) 19:48, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Cardiff Arms Park
Cardiff Arms Park has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Steelkamp (talk) 10:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Loudoun railway station
Hi, Loudoun Square railway station has been requested to move to Butetown railway station. See Talk:Loudoun Square railway station for the discussion. Thanks  Dank Jae  02:04, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments are used by Wikipedia editors to rate the quality of articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:55, 9 April 2023 (UTC)