Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Children's literature/Archive 3

Laura Ingalls Wilder Medal
Because the Laura Ingalls Wilder Medal is awarded for lifetime achievement in children's literature, shouldn't the recipients' articles be rated as 'High'? Einbierbitte (talk) 23:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I should think so. -- Evertype·✆ 00:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Young Adult Novel focus school project
Just letting interested people here know. There is currently a school project underway to write and/or improve various articles on young adult novels. I've added a link to their coordinating page listing this wikiproject as a resource. I thought that the editors here might appreciate a heads up. - TexasAndroid (talk) 15:32, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Amy Krouse Rosenthal
Please! Rescue! the author of ''Duck! Rabbit!'' Bearian (talk) 22:31, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I did it myself, see Template_talk:Did_you_know. Bearian (talk) 21:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Serie-cherub-logo.svg
This image, used on Template:WikiProject Children's literature and many articles in this area, has been nominated for deletion at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Serie-cherub-logo.svg. Please comment there. Dcoetzee 09:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

List of Oz books' FLRC
nominated List of Oz books for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 (talk) 20:36, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Sources?
I am currently looking for sources with which to expand Moonrise (Warriors). Can anyone suggest any RS that can be used? I have already tried Google Web, Scholar, and Book searches, and also used the databases available at my local school and library.  Bramble  claw  x   14:58, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Indian Paintbrush Book Award
I recently created an article on the Indian Paintbrush Book Award. Soon after, User:The Blade of the Northern Lights put a 'notability' tage on it. Why this article and not any of the other state book award articles, I don't know. Can anyone help in getting this article as notable as the other state book award articles? Thanks Einbierbitte (talk) 22:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * At a quick look, I can see that the article (as it stands) might not meet Wikipedia's general notability guidelines, which require that a subject should have received "...significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The sources you have used as references are all published by the organisation running the Award which, while useful to back up other sources and for providing lists of winners, are not "independent of the subject". Coverage of the award in the press could help establish the notability of the award as long as the publication used is regarded as a reliable source.  As to the question of articles on other state book awards, there is a useful essay here.--CharlieDelta (talk) 07:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Categories by century, country and genre
There is a case to answer that some sub-categories by century within Category:British children's literature are over-categorization. You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Literature. Fayenatic (talk) 20:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Horrible Histories
The Horrible Histories page is in a bit of a mess. For a while it merely consisted of may long lists of books and in a bid to get at least some information into the page, I created some headings, and put the information from various sources in, in small paragraphs so if need be, the different sections could easily be identified and reorganised. I really need editors more experienced than I to give me a hand with this. It is a very big task and I don't think I can do it all by myself. All the other pages in the Horrible Histories category could also use a helping hand. After spending ages trying in vain to locate sources for a lot of them, I have now accessed many useful sources through Google Books. I am currently in the process of using sources for Horrible Histories to improve its page on Wikipedia. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks you :)--Coin945 (talk) 09:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Story papers
I think some work needs to be done on the topic of children's story papers. The closest overview I can find is British boys' magazines (to which story paper redirects), and it's obviously inadequate because there were story papers for children of both sexes and various countries. The other problem is that editors have created articles for story papers under the impression they were comics. I've just fixed The Champion (story paper), but I'm sure there are plenty more (of course some, like The Hotspur, started out as story papers and became comics). Anyone want to help me improve the coverage of story papers? --Nicknack009 (talk) 10:02, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Peggy Adler
Notice that this page (which I've just tagged for your project) is up for deletion. Any input by your group members (espeically regarding the subject's notability notability) are welcome. The discussion is at []. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 14:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Strawpoll. How many want to make being on the bestseller's list proof of notability for a book?
Please come participate in the discussion and poll. Thank you. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WikiProject Japan ! 17:54, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

canon vs classics
Two lists, Children's literature canon and List of children's classic books, have substantial overlap. What should their purposes be? Ideally, the purposes should be established following the notability criteria for stand-alone lists (in particular, there should be references for the list as a whole) and the guidelines for selection criteria. RockMagnetist (talk) 22:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Narayan has pointed out another: Children's literature timeline. RockMagnetist (talk) 23:18, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

ALA Awards

 * the first of two sections as originally posted

FYI these awards are listed in navbox American Library Association.
 * Newbery • Caldecott • Wilder • Batchelder • Arbuthnot • King • Stonewall • Dartmouth • RUSA • Carnegie • Belpre • Alex • Edwards • Printz • Sibert • Schneider • Geisel • Odyssey • Morris

(1) The entries are all linked except Schneider. (2) The links are all internal; indeed (3) all targets are articles on the named awards rather than sections of general articles or articles on multiple awards. (For my information, does anyone know of policy or guidelines concerning navboxen?)

Not all are "children's awards". I don't know whether any have questionable status as awards, such as Best Books for Young Adults (below) which is not listed. --P64 (talk) 21:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Children's books about death
Category:Children's books about death, which is under the purview of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you.--CharlieDelta (talk) 08:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

National Book Award
Just now I have added to National Book Award for Young People's Literature:
 * mention of the "Children's" category 1969 to 1983 and a
 * table of "Young People's" winners from 1996, copied from List of National Book Award winners. interjection 2012-01-14 by P64: deleted by the creator of the article

This article was created during the current award cycle and I have created its Talk page by posting the project banner. --P64 (talk) 19:30, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Best Books for Young Adults

 * the second of two sections as originally posted

I find little information about the (Top 10) Best Books for Young Adults at Wikipedia.(that isn't good) ALA Best Books for Young Adults is a redirect to YALSA, an article which does not mention the BBYA lists.(that's bad)

Those are two annual lists, Best and Top 10 Best, by YALSA through 2010; this year some reorganization has distinguished fiction and non-fiction. The earliest lists currently published by YALSA online are the 1996 Best (comprising 34 non-fiction, 46 fiction in two alphabetical sublists) and the 1997 Top 10 Best. The entire effort dates from the early 1950s but the "Top 10 Best" may be no older than 1997(?).

Broadly, the BBYA listings are awards to the listed books and their authors. I think it's reasonable to cover BBYA listing for a book or author in section "Awards" of a book or author article. At the same time I doubt whether mere BBYA listing is notable. "one of the BBYA" succinctly flags the plurality, which is effective for some readers (whom the redirect will frustrate). It's easy for "one of the Best Books" to become "a Best Book", or simply "Best Book", during collaborative revision. Ironically or not, so many multiples are smaller than ten, eg most annual awards have fewer than ten finalists, that the literally honest "one of the Best Books" probably seems to most readers greater than "one of the Top 10 Best Books", where the reverse is true at least since 1997.

I am capable of writing a qualifying Note.(another example: Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth --whose Note is unsourced because my only source was our Newbery article) In my opinion, any explanation that the Best Books are not to be confused with the Top 10 Best Books, and may be much more numerous, belongs only in a Note, not in the text.

Let me break here and call for opinion how Best Books and Top 10 Best Books should be handled. For me this has come up more than once but Talk: The Second Mrs. Giaconda is the only Talk page discussion that I know. --P64 (talk) 21:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)


 * See Talk:Young Adult Library Services Association for some report of what I have learned from Best Books for Young Adults by Betty Carter and others (ALA, second edition, 2000).
 * --P64 (talk) 21:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

OR in His Dark Materials articles
Just wanted to flag here that there are a number of issues in the sub-articles related to His Dark Materials. Primary amongs them is the serious level of original research in Dæmon (His Dark Materials), Dust (His Dark Materials) and Lord Asriel. I can't see a way of dealing with this without stubbifying these articles but perhaps there are others who can go and improve these pages so that they come into like with WP:V and WP:NOR?-- Cailil  talk 00:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Before coming here, you should discuss this issue on the talk pages for those articles and tag the parts that you consider OR. RockMagnetist (talk) 01:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

needles, pins nursery rhyme, expanded version from 1915
My mother used to play this as a hand game. Like a spell to ward off bad luck, if two friends were walking down the street and they had to separate because a lamp post, barrier, or another person got in their way, they would chant and play this hand game immediately after they could join back togehter again. The two children would interlock their little fingers and one would say one line, the other the next line:

--Needles, pins, needles pins

--When a man gets married his trouble begins

--What goes up the chimney?

--Snoke

--Let's hope that this bond

--Shall never be broke!

Thumbs!

On the last line, at "broke," the children would snap their little fingers loose, and both saying together "Thumbs," they quickly interlocked and snapped apart their thumbs instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.235.82.64 (talk) 12:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Steve Light bio at AfD
I see the bio for children's illustrator, Steve Light, has been nominated as an AfD. I've just tagged it for this project and thought I should mention here in case anyone would like to contribute to the discussion there.--CharlieDelta (talk) 21:28, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Request for comment on Biographies of living people
Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, nearly all wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:
 * 1) supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
 * 2) opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced article if they are not sourced, so your project may want to pursue the projects below.
 * See Archive 2008/2010, beginning 26 January 2010, for progress on this issue or the associated "Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people".
 * See a Summary of the entire debate. -P64 2012-06-14

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikip (talk • contribs)  02:12, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Stolen (2009 novel) by Lucy Christopher at AfD
I've just added the Children's Literature Project tag to the article on this novel and I notice that there is a deletion discussion in progress. I thought I'd mention here in case anyone would like to take an interest and participate in the discussion.--CharlieDelta (talk) 06:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Input sought
I've made a comment at Wikipedia talk:Notability (people) pertaining to notability criteria for writers. I think members of this project could bring valuable perspectives to the discussion. My questions probably apply even more to authors of children's literature. Cynwolfe (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:20, 29 May 2011‎ (UTC)

2012-06-07, I have manually inserted the timestamp from the edit history. In contrast to the two-year-old preceding section, it seems unlikely to me that "Input sought" has been retained here purposefully; instead the archives are automated and rely on the timestamp. Someone who knows better should delete it if I am "wrong" or correct it if I am "right" but the timestamp needs a different format. -P64
 * That was well argued on the whole, and successfully argued if I understand correctly (Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)/Archive 2011). Has it made any difference in practice one year on? --P64 (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Categories
Does anyone know whether those 437 Categories tracked in the table (above) are in fact all or nearly all of the existing WP:CATs related to Children's literature?

Are they strictly those Category talk pages that carry the project banner WikiProject Children's literature? (Throughout en:wikipedia, I know, there are many categories without talk pages. There are some disambiguations and templates and even some articles.)

This project tracks more page types than do other projects I know. Is it the policy to tag all ... except WP:REDIRECTs, if i skim correctly. --P64 (talk) 18:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Diary of a Wimpy Kid task force
Recently, the WikiProject for the series has been deleted. The nominator suggested a task force in the WikiProject. Can you make one? Greg  Heffley   20:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * hello? Greg  Heffley   18:29, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Roald Dahl childrens book
Template:Roald Dahl childrens book has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. DH85868993 (talk) 13:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Dead project?
As far as I can glean from the few months I've been on WP, this project is dead. However, there seem to be a few people still working on various kids books. If you're out there, and would like to connect, maybe help each other out now and then or something, please let me know on my talk page. I sometimes wish I had someone to share ideas and info with. Happy editing. Tlqk56 (talk) 16:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * For the past 4 years WP:Children's Lit and WP:Novels have always been light participant projects with 3-5 people frequently active on various parts of the content from time to time. However, the project, more likely then not is not dead, but rather quite in the activities end of things. I know that their are several high school and college classes that have been working in the fiction topic area alot in the past couple years, so keep an eye on things, there will be space for you to be useful, Sadads (talk) 16:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I am the most recent of seven people to join this year. I have met one other in Talk and User space, (JustPotteringAround).
 * Search "Active members" for 2012; just now I added dates from the edit history for those 2012's who did not provide one. (Some are alphabetized, some at the end.)
 * I have worked on awards, on many many author/book/series/etc articles where an award is the point of entry (and I often go little further, eg Journey to the River Sea last hour), on more than a few directed entirely by interest rather than awards.
 * FYI, WP:PRIZE is marked inactive; WP:CHAR seems inactive to me; WP:Harry Potter is marked inactive with current discussion of becoming a Novels task force (all eight listed Children's lit task forces are listed Novels task forces also). --P64 (talk) 18:30, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Other people that might be helpful in children's lit include User:Brambleclawx, User:PrincessofLlyr, and User:Awadewit. In relationship to novels, User:Truthkeeper88 and User:GrahamHardy are both frequently around and useful, and so am I, Sadads (talk) 19:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to all who responded. It is nice to know there are others out there -- just hard to connect as the WP universe is so big, I guess. I've started several articles, and am preparing John R. Tunis for a GA nomination, though mostly I work on Newbery-related articles. If anyone wants some copy edit help, or a friendly ear, I'm available. Tlqk56 (talk) 17:53, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Picture book
Last hour I added the project banner to Talk: Picture book(!) and assigned importance=High. Now consulting the list of 62 so-called Top-importance articles, I say "oops" ;-)

I didn't assess its class. That and my understatement of its importance should motivate at least one person to visit at least its talk. --P64 (talk) 20:11, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it needs work. So does Children's literature, and don't get me started on Children's poetry which is awful. Too bad we can't have some sort of effort to improve these. But it's a lot to tackle by yourself. On the other hand, if someone wants help, I'm willing... Tlqk56 (talk) 01:18, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

little Bo Peep
My nan born circa 1915 in Suffolk, told me that Bo Peeps sheep were taken away to have their tails docked. that is why they were missing and then come home bringing their tails behind them. Wikipedia has a page on sheep tail docking.Julez120 (talk) 15:01, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Second and Third Verse to Little Miss Muffet.
On my old Gramaphone record C3 Nursery Rhymes these are the next two verses. sang by two people quite fast.
 * Said the spider "My dear you've no reason to fear,
 * I only just came as I passed on my way,
 * to catch a few flies to be made into pies,
 * there's no need to hurry, please don't go away."


 * So little Miss Muffet she sat on her tuffet,
 * she hardly dared breathe lest the spider should stay,
 * she was frightened to sit on the tuffet with it,
 * but how glad she was, when it wished her good day.Julez120 (talk) 15:35, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

New sister project proposal
Hi, you may want to see this proposal for new project based on fiction. --213.155.255.148 (talk) 19:51, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

AfD of possible interest
Members of this project may wish to comment in Articles for deletion/The Adventures of Captain Underpants. Lady of  Shalott  18:24, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Newsletter
Hi! I noticed that there is a vacancy in the list of the editors of the newsletter. I would not mind helping out on the newsletter, so my question is, what does it take to be an editor, and what do I have to do to become one? Thanks, Jakob 18:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. When was the last newsletter?
 * The project is relatively inactive, not to say defunct. Do you have ideas likely to make a newsletter stimulating? Offhand I suggest that you first try some substantial stimulation here, an example of something you would put in a newsletter. --P64 (talk) 21:52, 24 January 2013 (UTC)


 * P.S. By the way, WP Harry Potter was recently converted to a WP Novels task force (where WP: HP now redirects). For me as one supporter that seemed appropriate because WP Novels is relatively active with many task forces. See Wikipedia talk: WikiProject Novels/Harry Potter task force. -P64

(untitled)
Wikipedia tries to present history and true information. But by allowing anyone at all to edit the material Wikepedia invites many of the the wrong people to edit for the wrong reasons. Persons who wish to exaggerate their own importance, ch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.124.34.146 (talk) 07:00, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Allowing just anyone to edit invites the wrong persons editing for the wrong reasons. Persons who wish to change history to exaggerate their own importance often put their names into subjects and distort the past to mention and  glamorize themselves. The history and information presented by Wikepedia often becomes a mess of untruthful boasting and nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.124.34.146 (talk) 07:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Literature portal
Literature has been nominated for a featured portal review and may lose its status as a featured portal. Reviewers' concerns are set out here. Please leave your comments (which can include "keep" or "delist") and help the portal to be of featured quality. The instructions for the review process are here. Espresso Addict (talk) 17:41, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

merger discussion of Jack (hero) and Jack tales
Please see Talk:Jack tales for merger discussion of Jack (hero) and Jack tales.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

The Death Cure
There is an ongoing disagreement over sourcing on a plot summary and characters section at Talk:The Death Cure. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:58, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Middle Grade and Young Adult
From the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA) MG and YA interest group, February 2012. Primarily quotations of agents, editors, and publishers.
 * "An Introduction to Middle Grade and Young Adult Fiction, Part 1: Definitions", by Malinda Lo (2013-02-01)
 * "For writers who are interested in writing middle grade or young adult fantasy or science fiction, the first step is puzzling out what exactly those categories mean. Science fiction and fantasy, after all, has a long tradition of featuring young protagonists ..."
 * "We’re members of SFWA’s newest experiment, a special interest group focusing on SFWA members who write MG and YA sci-fi and fantasy. We’ve surveyed our editors and agents to ask them how they define MG and YA ..."


 * "An Introduction to Middle Grade and Young Adult Fiction, Part 2: Content", by Jenn Reese (2013-02-05)
 * "In Part 1: Definitions, the members of SFWA’s experimental MG and YA group asked industry professionals to help define the middle grade (MG) and young adult (YA) book categories. Today we’ve asked those same professionals to tackle the controversial issue of appropriate content."

At least three sections of Talk: Young-adult fiction are pertinent:
 * 5. Juvenile vs YA
 * 14. List not all young adult fiction
 * 15. 11 to 14

--P64 (talk) 17:05, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * During December the same writers association (SFWA) presented Norton Award Blog Tour, a series pertaining to the "Andre Norton Award for Outstanding Young Adult Science Fiction or Fantasy Book". That is the official award name, established 2006, but it is described in terms of "MG and YA" without comment.
 * One of the blogs does focus on the point, The Norton Award and Middle Grade Books.
 * --P64 (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2013 (UTC)


 * One ALA book award recognizes Teen, Middle School, and younger Children's categories (Homepage; 2013 winners). That is the set of three Schneider Family Book Awards, annual from 2004, recognizing a writer or illustrator for "artistic expression of the disability experience for child and adolescent audiences." It is one ALA "Youth Media Award" (sortable List of ALA awards) not administered in part by either the the children's or the YA librarians (Admin.=ALSC or Admin.=YALSA in the linked table). And one of two we do not cover with an award article. --P64 (talk) 02:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_May_3#Category:American_children.27s_novelists
You are invited to join the discussion at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_May_3. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 03:27, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Template:Jack split
Please comment on splitting Template:Jack at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fictional_characters.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:19, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

new essay on children's nonfiction as (un)reliable
Feel free to consider an essay I wrote on the questionable reliability of children's sources for facts, which sort of overlaps wth this WikiProject's field. (This thread does not seem to fit either of the linked-to subpages that are alternatives to this talk page, so I hope here is okay.) Thanks. Nick Levinson (talk) 20:46, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Infobox book: streamlining publication details
Changes to streamline the way Infobox book displays the date of publication and publisher from multiple fields into one (using a standardised format) and to remove the "(s)" in "Author(s)" etc. in line with other infoboxes have been suggested. Please read and give your opinion there. -- xensyria T 17:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Kissing Shakespeare
Hi, I've started the article for the 2012 YA novel Kissing Shakespeare by Pamela Mingle. However, does anyone know how to reach other readers so that they can help contribute to the article? The article needs to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:56, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Major revision of main article
There was a major revision of Children's literature by User:Noodleki early this hour, far beyond the power of our simple automated comparison to represent (diffs, -5500 bytes).

--P64 (talk) 18:39, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Commons
I just completed work at the Commons on the Children's Literature category tree, adding new categories, moving images into less generic categories, etc. I think the tree will be much more navigable for anyone wanting to find images to add to WP.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The Girl without Hands#Synopsis: "father"
I've copied my comment here from the Talk page.

The Synopsis says:
 * After seven years, he found the hut, and lay down to sleep with a handkerchief to cover his face. His wife came out, and when the handkerchief fell, directed her son to put it back on. The child grew angry, since he had been told that the Father in heaven was man's true father, but no one on earth.

This sequence makes no sense as presented here. It can only work if the wife tells the son that the sleeping man is his father. --Thnidu (talk) 00:07, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Infobox book series
Editors involved in this project may be interested in a discussion at Template talk:Infobox book series. In short: Should the parameter "Publisher" be wikilinked in the template? Cnilep (talk) 03:55, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Dr. Seuss Action Plan
Hey guys,

My contributions to this wikiproject have consisted mainly of improvements to Dr. Seuss-related articles. I've improved Horton Hatches the Egg, And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street, and The Cat in the Hat. A while ago, I teamed up with CurlyTurkey to get Mulberry Street to FA, though my own sloth has brought that to a stand still.

Still, I'd like to improve as many of the Dr. Seuss-related articles as I can. Because I am only one guy with limited time, however, I should probably focus my attention on the important articles. Dr. Seuss will eventually be a GA, I promise. In the short term, however, I have my eyes on How the Grinch Stole Christmas!, Horton Hears a Who!, and Green Eggs and Ham. The Lorax and the The Butter Battle Book should be GAs too, I figure. Helen Palmer Geisel is a particular hobby horse of mine, so that's on the "When I get around to it" list. What else should be on the list?

It would be nice to have some collaborators, but I don't hold out much hope. Although he's an extremely popular author, at least in the US, I'm not sure there are any other Wikipedians who are interested in improving articles about him and his work. I really hope I'm wrong. :)

I'd like to start a Dr. Seuss taskforce, either way. I think it would be a great way to assess and organize all the different articles. It works best, however, if I'm not the only person in the taskforce! I don't even know how to, or if I'm able to, start a task force, so clearly I'm putting the cart before the horse.

Anyhoo, to summarize: I just want your general thoughts about Dr. Seuss, improving Dr. Seuss articles, what I should work on, the silly taskforce idea, etc. Really, just general thoughts would be nice. Bobnorwal (talk) 16:06, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Not in Front of the Children
I've recently gone ahead and created an article about the book, Not in Front of the Children: "Indecency," Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth.
 * Not in Front of the Children: "Indecency," Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth

Help with suggestions for additional secondary sources would be appreciated at the article's talk page, at Talk:Not in Front of the Children: "Indecency," Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth.

Thank you for your time,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:25, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

YA writers categories
So far yester/today User:Bearcat has created three sibling categories, and largely populated them from their parent by "recat using WP:AWB". I like the alphabetical order but fear that it cannot continue.

The American subcategory is older but it was never populated systematically. I doubt we should have novelists and short story writers subcategories, whereas I feel sure it is useful to distinguish fiction and nonfiction writers. --P64 (talk) 00:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, per WP:DIFFUSE Wikipedia does not have a requirement that all the possible "subcategorized by country" categories have to exist right off the bat; rather, if a category is potentially subcategorizable by country, then it is permissible for some country subcats to exist while others don't yet. I created only those three because they were the only three that already had enough writers to populate them without violating WP:SMALLCAT — other writers from countries which don't have their own dedicated subcategories yet can still be left in the main category until the number of writers from that country actually justifies a new dedicated subcategory. This is exactly the same as any other category in the tree; they're all subdividable by country, but not all of the possible country subcategories actually exist yet — even  is still technically missing a few countries. Bearcat (talk) 00:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update
As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at ~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man ) 04:58, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Adrianne Wadewitz deletion discussion notice
There is an ongoing deletion discussion taking place now about whether or not to have a biographical article about Adrianne Wadewitz on Wikipedia.
 * 1) Adrianne Wadewitz
 * 2) Articles for deletion/Adrianne Wadewitz

The discussion is at Articles for deletion/Adrianne Wadewitz.

For those newer to Wikipedia, you may wish to read Articles for deletion and Notability.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 15:15, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Help on Divergent (novel)
I started working on Divergent (novel) because the recent publicity in response to the movie, has been creating a recent surge of views in a scale similar to Hunger Games, et. al., and the content is rather poor. Would anyone be interested in helping expand the article? It's a fairly easy read, and I am starting to ad scholarship and trim the plot now. However, grad school is keeping me rather busy, so would appreciate extra hands on deck to refine and expand beyond the limited time I have right now, Sadads (talk) 19:10, 24 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I revised the lead section and infobox book by resort to ISFDB and LCCatalog records--and a glance at the two sequel articles. For clarity I overused the superscript calls to those two sources.
 * However easy a read the book may be, it's not for me. You are right that the plot section is too long (much too long).
 * I don't believe Divergent (novel) can be called Mid-importance for WP Novels, only perhaps for science fiction task force (if i recall correctly, that is |sf-task-force=yes |sf-priority=mid) and perhaps for WP Children's lit (the other project banner). But I didn't change that, only fixed the talk by restoring chron sequence and deleting experiment/vandalism.
 * --P64 (talk) 01:25, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the initial set of feedback/help. Will add to the SF task force. The reasoning behind the mid-importance, is that the relative popularity of that item brings it to the public face of Wikipedia. Though clearly not "high" or "top", because of its relative long lasting importance and commentary within children's lit scholarship, I am saying it meets the WP:Novels assessment standard of "Subject is notable or significant within the field of literature (or to a historian), but not necessarily outside it." Anyway, thanks for the lead trimming, every little bit helps! Sadads (talk) 13:48, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

garbled text in article
(quoted from Talk:The Death of Koschei the Deathless): The underlined clause, in The Death of Koschei the Deathless, is garbled:
 * Soon after Ivan finds out that Koschei took Marya Morevna away, and chases him. When he gets him for the first time, Koschei tells Ivan he lets him go, but Ivan doesn't give in, and Koschei kills him, puts his remains into a barrel and throws it into the sea.

I have no idea what's meant, so I'm going to mention it on the pages of the three projects that claim interest in the page. --Thnidu (talk) 15:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Hans Christian Andersen Award
The biennial Hans Christian Andersen Awards for children's book writing and illustration were announced this week at the Bologna Book Fair. The writing award (est. 1956) is sometimes called the Nobel Prize of children's literature; we have pages for all (at least Start class, iirc). The illustration award (est. 1966) may have been called a Nobel Prize by association association, so to speak, but I haven't read that anywhere; we have 9 redlink winning illustrators. See Template:Hans Christian Andersen Medal

Norsk bokmål (no.wikipedia) has a page for every one but the 2014 writer Nahoko Uehashi (whom we have, now improving) and illustrator Roger Mello of Brazil. For him there is no hit at WikiData and a redlink in the Português list of winners. Native-language wikipedias evidently provide good coverage for 4 of our 9 redlink illustrators. For a longer report on other-language coverage see Template talk:Hans Christian Andersen Medal.

Google Translate is sure to be useful, certainly adequate to create at least four Start and four Stub pages. --P64 (talk) 18:08, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Astrid Lindgren Memorial Award
The annual Astrid Lindgren Memorial Award was announced this week at the National Library of Sweden. Inaugurated in 2003, it is always called the biggest prize in children's literature (ca$h). We have no navigation template (navbox) for the winners, but.

We have pages for all 14 winners. At most three are Stubs; they carry the stub tags: illustrator Ryōji Arai of Japan (picture book writer at ja.wiki) and the two institutional winners, Banco del Libro of Venezuela and Tamer Institute of Palestine. Other-language wikipedias provide little or more information than we do.

--P64 (talk) 18:28, 27 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Ryōji Arai is really a stub now, albeit one with unusually long and complex footer. Except for my 2012 coverage of the 2005 award, it comprised little but seven-year-old (2007) cut-and-paste from the award citation. Because I noticed the plagiarism by accident when I expected to depart, last hour's edit history is complex (eg, it includes a small step using Google Translate) but for once in my long experience here our tool "Compare selected versions" is adequate to show the net effect clearly (combined diffs). That is, last hour's diffs which happen to cover the last six months. More information/more traces: Talk:Ryōji Arai.
 * --P64 (talk) 20:17, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Infobox book request for comment
In August last year, all publication data in infobox book was merged into one new published parameter. Work began on migrating existing uses to the new format, until questions were raised about the effect this had on data granularity.

Any input and suggestions on a proposed fix, which keeps the new one-line per edition formatting while providing full data granularity would be much appreciated (centralised discussion here). Thanks. ‑‑ xensyria T 23:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Portal:Children's literature for Featured Portal candidacy

 * 1) Portal:Children's literature
 * 2) Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Children's literature

I've nominated Portal:Children's literature to be considered for Featured Portal quality.

This was a joint quality improvement collaboration between myself and User:Wadewitz.

Participation would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Children's literature.

Thank you for your time,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:21, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Adrianne Wadewitz for Peer review

 * 1) Adrianne Wadewitz
 * 2) Peer review/Adrianne Wadewitz/archive1

I've nominated the article Adrianne Wadewitz for Peer review.

Discussion is at the peer review subpage, at Peer review/Adrianne Wadewitz/archive1.

Thank you for your time,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 04:02, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Diary of a Wimpy Kenny
Diary of a Wimpy Kenny, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Lucia Black (talk) 20:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 19/05
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Doctor Dolittle Meets a Londoner in Paris. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Children's Literature At Wikimania 2014
Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

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For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: Project leaflets Adikhajuria (talk) 14:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Daisy Corning Stone Spedden
Dear children's literature experts: The subject of this old draft is the author of a popular children's book. The text reads like a professional biography, and this pre-existing quote leads me to believe that it may be text from within the book itself. I read this years ago and I don't have a copy. Does anyone have access to the book and can check to see if this is all a copyright violation? Otherwise I would like to improve it. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not an expert, and don't have the book, but the article as I found it has serious copyright problems. I marked it up with  tags to show the part that is verbatim from the 1st article reference at that time: Encyclopedia Titanica. My edit summary suggested we should forget the author topic, grab the references, and make a Polar, the Titanic Bear article. (Google search: "Titanic Bear") The award-winning book has a solid 20 years history and a wealth of information for an article. Spedden has no apparent notability as an author outside the book. —Telpardec  TALK  06:01, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * GoogleBooks: "Titanic Bear" has 4 editions with no previews: 1994, 2001, 2001, and 2008. The book is mentioned in Titanic: Women and Children First, and Using Picture Books to Teach Language Arts Standards in Grades 3-5. It leads the Juvenile Fiction list in The Titanic: Historiography and Annotated Bibliography.

Children's literature artist Laurie McGaw
Cheers. —Telpardec TALK  06:01, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I would also suggest that Wikipedia is long overdue for an article about Laurie McGaw, the award-winning illustrator of the book, who is also notable for some really amazing coin designs for the Royal Canadian Mint. (Google search: "Laurie McGaw") Her middle name is "Jeanne" according to her Canadian Who's Who listing. Book mentions in wikipedia: BILBY Award (winner) and 1994 Governor General's Awards (almost won).
 * "Laurie McGaw has illustrated many books for children, including African Princess, The Illustrated Father Goose, Journey to Ellis Island, Polar the Titanic Bear, Something to Remember Me By, and To Be a Princess. She lives near Toronto, Ontario." --Google blurb about author, 1994 ed.
 * "Laurie McGaw is well known for her portraits of renowned figures as well as her award-winning illustrations in Polar The Titanic Bear and African Princess. Her work has been featured in books, magazines, and private and corporate collections for over thirty years." --Google blurb about author, 2001 ed.
 * I didn't hear anything back from anyone. —Telpardec TALK  04:33, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Telpardec for checking this out. I will take your advice and make a Polar the Titanic Bear article, and redirect the author title to it.  Sorry to have taken so long to respond; I somehow missed your first ping. While I don't have a copy of this book to hand right now, I read it aloud many times years ago during my work as a children's librarian. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 05:04, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds great. Thanks. —Telpardec TALK  13:29, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * , I have made a start on it. It's a little vague in spots, but see what you think.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 00:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

, It looks great to me. I went back through my notes and found a couple of items: The illustrations [almost] won the 1994 Governor General's Awards. Cheers. —Telpardec TALK  02:14, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Polar leads the Juvenile Fiction list in The Titanic: Historiography and Annotated Bibliography page 87.
 * background on the making of the illustrations: Curl Up with the Voyages of a bear and his boy
 * Thanks, ; I found a use for all three items in improving the article. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 02:34, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Literature Online Access
Hello all! At The Wikipedia Library we are currently in talks with Proquest's Literature Online and Early English Books Online to get Wikipedians access to those databases/collections. They asked us for a bit of information about how Wikipedians might use the research materials, asking us to do a brief survey. It would be extremely helpful if users could fill out the following Google form: Proquest - Literature Online / Wikipedia Library user interest survey. Afterward, while waiting for us to finish talks on Literature Online, we would like to invite editors to apply for already established available partnerships, listed at our partners page. Thank you for all of your help! Sadads (talk) 16:48, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Just reminding everyone that this might be of interest! Calling all survey takers, Sadads (talk) 20:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!


Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Lewis Carroll
There is a discussion on this article's Talk page Talk:Lewis Carroll about the inclusion of a section discussing the possibility that Carroll was a paedophile. Those interested in contributing should look there. Myrvin (talk) 10:40, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

New categories
Please add suitable articles to the categories,  and ! Robina Fox (talk) 06:32, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Children are pre-teens, right?
User:MarnetteD suggested six weeks ago 2015-01-26 that --which now specifies "biologically and/or chronologically under age 21"-- should be restricted to age 12, perhaps 13 or even 14. Only today I read the notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels and replied there with observations concerning our comprehensive practices concerning of and --in a word I didn't use--. That is, we include teen/YA writers and generally include teen/YA literature.

MarnetteD cross-posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Books. I am the first to reply at either location.

--P64 (talk) 21:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I suppose that was meant to be provocative? I would say children includes teenagers up to the age of majority, but sometimes you have to say "children and teenagers" or "children and young adults" for clarity. I've added a comment at the Novels discussion. Robina Fox (talk) 06:28, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - Discussion of exactly how to categorize the ages is going to be very contentious and a long haul. Psychologists disagree among themselves and book publishers and booksellers are almost as difficult (worse, actually). The recent invention of "tween" being an example. I teach Children's Literature (and in that role I also teach Developmental Psychology) and in my Children's Literature course I teach Pre-K to YA. We begin with ABC books and end with The Hunger Games; which is rather insane, but the course is designed for Education and Creative Writing majors and we need the coverage. We are just now discussing, barely and very tentatively, about how to, maybe perhaps, tease out picture books and read-aloud books from books intended for other ages (solo reading) so we may have two different classes, or three (or Lord knows how many). That said, I would suggest not diving into trying to create new categories on Wikipedia without some serious discussion beforehand by editors who are willing to work in the different areas--and it seems at the moment that we are small town (underrepresented area), ergo dividing our resources may not be a good idea at all. HullIntegrity  \ talk / 12:43, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Is Tigger a Tiger?
This is a weird question, but it's within the scope of this WikiProject: Is Tigger a Tiger? The question revolves around a user's addition of species to the infobox and the value "Tiger". Please comment at Talk:Tigger if you'd like to weigh in. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:42, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

RfC for Kenji Miyazawa
There is currently a RfC at Talk:Kenji Miyazawa.  ミーラー強斗武   (StG88ぬ会話) 19:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

TimeRiders
Talk:TimeRiders:

§ Characters begins
 * The series follows three protagonists:

and immediately lists five. I don't know the series at all, so I can't fix it, but somebody should. --Thnidu (talk) 03:04, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

The Raven Cycle Series listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for The Raven Cycle Series to be moved to The Raven Cycle. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:23, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Work dates in Navboxes
Important conversation going on at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Templates: please join, 15:30, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Two new articles on children's book illustrators.
Hello! While art biography is not my specialty, I recently created Thomas Crane (1843–1903) (DYK nom) and Millicent Sowerby (DYK nom), English illustrators of children's books and greeting cards. If anyone has additional resources or knowledge, feel free to contribute! --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, nice job, very nice pages. I probably do have sources for both articles, but will wait until they clear DYK to add anything. Victoria (tk) 01:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

A mystery regarding "H. H. Emmerson"
In the interest of not inadvertently building a Frankenstein, I am trying to conclusively determine if Henry Hetherington Emmerson, known as a painter in all sources I can find, is the same person as "H. H. Emmerson", the author/co-artist of Afternoon Tea: a book of new rhymes for children, discussed under Under the Window. I am about 90% sure these are the same person, but from the sources I can view, some discuss only the paintings, while others discuss only the children's book (or only mention name), and neither the twain meet. There is circumstantial evidence that these are the same person (e.g. WorldCat birth and death date) but would prefer a reliable source that unambiguously connects the dots (e.g. "H. H. Emmerson, a painter from Cullercoats, also illustrated the children's books X, Y and Z..."). I have a hunch that clarity may lie in Under the Window and Afternoon Tea: "Twirling the Same Blade of Grass", which is behind a paywall. Any enlightenment greatly appreciated. Cheers. --Animalparty-- (talk) 21:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * , here's what seems to be the relevant section of the article you cited:




 * Not a super definitive answer but it does call the Afternoon Tea Emmerson "a fairly well known artist from the North of England." Fyddlestix (talk) 22:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks for that, and I have found other sources that conclusively connect the two. --Animalparty-- (talk) 02:38, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Category:Children's book illustrators
Moments ago at WP:WikiProject Categories, I illustrated one "problem" by the example of.

See WT:CATP --flushleft and now at the bottom of that very long section. --P64 (talk) 16:49, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC regarding animate vs inanimate pronouns for fictional characters
An RfC about whether or not it's acceptable to use "a character who" as if the character were a person is under way at WT:MoS. The consensus here is coming out pretty overwhelmingly "Yes, in fact that's standard." The only issue is whether the MoS or MOS:FICTION should state this explicitly or whether it's so obvious and the problem so minor that it can be expected to go without saying. Contributions are still welcome. If you know of any edit wars or other conflicts that have arisen because someone wanted to change "a character who" to "a character, which/that," then please contribute. If you know that this problem is rare, please come say so. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Not in Front of the Children - at Peer Review
I've requested Peer Review for Not in Front of the Children.

Feedback would be appreciated, at Peer review/Not in Front of the Children/archive1.

Thank you,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 06:04, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject banner |needs-infobox-cover=yes
Our banner at Talk:David and the Phoenix shows a confusing double display apparently generated by the single parameter  (which I added to both banners this hour because the article now shows a latterday edition cover, albeit with first edition artwork).

I don't know that this parameter is useful in our banner. The talk page footer links, evidently generated by the WP NOVELS banner, but shows no corresponding category for Children's lit. That suggests to me someone works on needy novel articles but no one works on needy children's book articles. --P64 (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Just a quick heads up
Hello, just wanted to let everyone involved here know that I just changed Percy Jackson task force to "Rick Riordan task force" in the Related Projects section, because the task force recently changed its name and scope. Feel free to contact me or other WP:RRTF members with questions, and happy editing! -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 22:06, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Jesse Haynes
Articles for deletion/Jesse Haynes Joeykai (talk) 04:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Requested Move
Talk:Atreyu (band) -> Atreyu In ictu oculi (talk) 09:33, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Fairy tale FAR
I have nominated Fairy tale for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sadads (talk) 14:00, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

"Misfortune"
The usage and topic and primary topic of Misfortune is under discussion, see talk:Misfortune (disambiguation) -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:51, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to our April event
(To subscribe, Women in Red/Invite list. Unsubscribe, Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Rosiestep (talk) 02:04, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Category:Irma Black Award winners has been nominated for discussion
Category:Irma Black Award winners, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Notice to participants at this page about adminship
Many participants here create a lot of content, have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the skills considered at Requests for adminship.

So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:


 * Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll

You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.

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Books by year
Would it be a good idea to categorize children's books by year? I'm not suggesting moving books currently in the "novels by year" or "short story collections by year" categories, but having them in the children's book categories as well. It's a big job, but it could make a useful reference. Robina Fox (talk) 23:22, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Michael Wagner (author)


The article Michael Wagner (author) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * No sources providing showing that Wagner satisfies WP:NAUTHOR or WP:BIO. Article is basically an unsourced list of books, etc. that the author seems to have written, but none of which seem notable for Wikipedia in their own right. Article has been tagged with BLP maintenance templates since 2011 and better sourcing has not been provided. I tried googling for better sources, but only found trivial mentions and social media stuff which does not help an all in establishing Wikipedia notability.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:38, 30 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I may address this later, but for now: It is difficult to assess the notability of an author from another country (for one thing, Google has regional bias, so in Australia you would get different results). He has been published by multiple publishing houses. One of his books has been chosen as a notable picture book by CBCA (Why Love Footy) and here is a page with information, at least about his books: Michael Wagner at Fantastic Fiction  ---  Robina Fox (talk) 15:23, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi there
Check this feadburner.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.183.173.213 (talk) 15:09, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
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More opinions needed at Requested move Nineteen Eighty-Four → 1984
It would be really helpful to get more opinions here. Thanks! —PermStrump ( talk )  03:49, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Patricia McKissack
Hi, i have been creating little articles on Patricia McKissack's books over the last couple of months, so i was saddened to see that she recently died. She was an amazing African American author, having written (some with her husband, Fredrick McKissack (also deceased), another creative force) over 100 picture books, novels, and non-fiction books. i'm still adding other books but with the redlinked books in her wp bio have been unable to find enough (3+) sources to comfortably avoid afd, if anybody can assist with them that would be great, thanks. ps. i am also leaving this message with women writers project. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:22, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report
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Join
How do I join Iris Medallion (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2017 (UTC) Iris Medallion (talk) 19:01, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, Iris! Go to WikiProject Children's literature/Participants and sign up. --- Robina Fox (talk) 23:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

A wiki-collection of stories in Wikibooks
b:Wikijunior:Stories has been lunched in WikiBooks, with the aim of creating a collection of teaching stories for kids; particularly short traditional stories with a moral. Any suggestion or contribution in whatever manner are welcome. --Z 14:10, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Draft talk:Philippe Fix
Hi,

Any opinion about the admissibility of this French illustrator? I assume he was somehow famous in the late 1960s and 1970s as he illustrated many French books and at least two books for a British authoress (Martha Sanders's Alexander and the Magic Mouse , 1969) and an American author (David L. Harrison's Book of Giant Stories, 1972). Kokonino (talk) 11:10, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * He in fact wrote a number of books himself and illustrated dozens that were translated to at least 15 languages as can be seen in his WorldCat entry. His 1963 comic character Chouchou got its own magazines, two CDs,, you can buy it as key chain, it is featured on the covers of a collection of books with CDs of the era and even a TV show was named after it where it reappeared in 1997, so many years later.   Crotopaxi (talk) 21:34, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

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Bizarre reviews on Brad Meltzer's "I Am" book series
Removing very odd and irrelevant reference to "Kirkus Reviews" in individual articles for "I Am" book series. Presumably added as a joke or for self-promotion. Examples (on a book targeted at 4-6 year olds): "Lincoln ... strides through a first-person narrative that stretches the limits of credulity and usefulness." "A barely serviceable introduction with far more child appeal than substance." "Another pointless entry in a series intended to inspire more than inform"

Perhaps the account that made these edits should be looked into... — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanB25 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I have now looked at a couple of these and don't see the problem. I'm not sure that the books themselves are WP:NB (though the series itself probably is given best seller status). Can you explain more what you're thinking the issue is with the selected Kirkus reviews? Barkeep49 (talk)
 * i'm not sure what means by "very odd and irrelevant reference to "Kirkus Reviews"", Kirkus is a legitimate and useable reviewer of books (although some/most editors are uncomfortable with referring to its more recent reviews as it now accepts payments to have a book reviewed), so i cant see the problem with including a quote from each review, indeed to leave out a review that is critical of the book concerned could give rise to an assertion of partiality, so no, they werent added as a "joke", as for "self promotion" and "Perhaps the account that made these edits should be looked into", go for it!, i think the relevant page to post at is WP:ANI where admins and experienced editors investigate such issues. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:28, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Assessment of Lists
I was going through and trying to give importance assessments to articles which had been rated for quality but not importance. The last one I felt I could do was for List of Canadian children's books. After doing that I checked the ratings for other lists. One of the top ones was clearly wrong, but in essence it felt to me like many of the ones rated "High" were really "Top" and this would likely mean some rated Mid were actually High. Curious to get other participant's thoughts on this topic.Barkeep49 (talk) 23:20, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * yep, agree, i would suggest that none of the lists relating to national book awards are "low" import, they should at least be "high", some of the "creature" lists that are presently "low" should also be rated higher (after all, what is a kids book without a cat, or a monster?:), on the other hand, most of the lists that deal with a specific book or series should probably be rated "low" (they may have been rated higher due to an editor's personal likes), btw, thank you for taking the time to look into this. Coolabahapple (talk) 20:41, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Getting Holes to GA status
Hi, I am currently rereading Holes by Louis Sachar after being obsessed with it as a child, and I would love to get the book to GA status. It currently has a long way to go. Let me know if anyone would be interested in collaborating! Basilisk4u (talk) 13:30, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yikes. It sure does need work but would be a very worthy GA. I am generally not a fan of fantastical realism so I don't feel passionately enough to edit but I do GA reviews and would be happy to do that part when you feel ready. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:26, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Jason Reynolds's work
Hi all, I started a Jason Reynolds entry last year when I was looking for info on National Book Award finalists and found we didn't have anything on him. I've been able to work up a pretty solid biographical sketch from the extensive sources (he's now won or been a finalist for nearly every award out there, so there's quite a lot of coverage); however YA lit is mostly outside my area of expertise so the entry has some holes in describing his works--it's missing basic plot summaries for some books, could use more description of themes, etc. I thought I'd reach out and see if any of the project participants here wanted to have a look and see if they have things to add, or any other suggestions for the entry (e.g. probably his Track series warrants a page of its own, though like I say I don't feel qualified to write that fork myself. Etc.) Thanks so much all. Innisfree987 (talk) 20:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work. There's a lot more there than for many other authors of comparable stature which is great. I'll add it to my to do list to see what else might be out there to help complete the page. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:26, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, for both the kind words and the assistance. Much appreciated. Meanwhile, if any particular comparable author entries come to mind as needing more bio detail, feel free to suggest some names to me--even if I don't know their work well, I'm interested in writers' backgrounds and often have fun reading/writing about their personal histories! Innisfree987 (talk) 00:32, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Invitation
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WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
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RRTF is hosting an Edit-A-Thon with prizes
Announcing RRTF's second annual Edit-A-Thon! The event is being held June 23 through July 28 in honor of author Rick Riordan's June birthday and author/illustrator John Rocco's July birthday. The focus of the edit-a-thon will be on expanding Wikipedia's coverage of these two authors in an encyclopedic manner.

The Edit-A-Thon is open to all Wikipedia users - you do not need any experience with Riordan, Rocco, or RRTF! Help is needed in a variety of areas, including referencing, copyediting, and new page creation. Prizes will be given for first, second, and third place and will consist of a barnstar and Amazon gift card. To enter, please visit this page. The winners will be announced by July 31.

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Utah Mother Goose tradition
hi, an ip has questioned whether the above should be included in the Mother Goose article, i would welcome some input there, thanks Coolabahapple (talk) 06:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Bot Tagging with Project Banner
I frequently find article with-in our scope that don't have our project banner. When a page has our banner it helps so we know about things like article alerts and recognized content. It looks like the [|EarwigBot] could go through and place the banners on pages based on their placement in categories. Should we just use the complete Category:Children's literature and Category:Young adult novels or do we need to be more selective? Are there others we should include? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:55, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea. I think using the Children’s literature and Young adult literature categories will get everything within our scope. Linguistical (talk) 03:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Relaunch?
Hi fellow project members. I would love to see us resume a higher level of project activity to build community, help support each other, and work to create and improve articles that fall in our scope. As a first step, I would like to propose that we clear out the member list and start fresh. As part of this I would also suggest that we ask for a mass message to be sent to the roughly 60 people listed as members inviting them to sign back-up and otherwise announcing a "relaunch" of the project. Thoughts? This is a place where I am going to take silence as a yes since I'm not sure how many people are active and watching this page. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks.
 * This main project page imports the member list from a subpage. For reference here is the latest version before Barkeep49 posted this note, Participants list 2018-09-29. --P64 (talk) 00:41, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Beginner help
Hello, I have a question. I'm a beginner. Is the Start-class rating of The Boy Spies of Philadelphia appropriate? It kinda falls between Start and C, so I put it in start. Happy holidays! – Ben79487 (talk contribs) 18:06, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Welcome . You should feel free to ask questions - Wikipedia can be an overwhelming place for beginners. And yes I agree that article is Start Class right now - major sections are missing. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know if the article The One and Only Ivan (film)'s importance. I think it's Mid-importance, because The One and Only Ivan (the book) is pretty important, because it has won the Newberry Medal as well as being nominated for a couple others, but since it's a film adaptation, how should I rank it? It's clearly not as important as the book. Thanks in advance, Ben79487 (talk contribs) 20:37, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I would go Low ranking. The book is clearly of more importance but the movie feels closer to "not particularly notable or significant even within the field of children's literature." Some movies would be much more important to us as a project. Thanks for all the assessment work you're doing. If you'd like to do a GA review together, I would be happy to work the nomination of Locked in Time with you. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:04, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, but I need to get offline now. See you probably 5-6 hours later! Best, Ben79487 (talk contribs) 21:14, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Agree that low's probably appropriate here and would just add, don't sweat it too hard. These aren't any kind of official or permanent pronouncements about something's worth--it's just to try to roughly prioritize which entries need the most urgent attention in order to improve the encyclopedia, out of all of children's literature in every country in the history of the world. So an as-yet unreleased film adaptation is probably low, in the grand scheme of things, for now, but if it becomes a huge, historic movie that might change. And that's a-ok! No biggie to adjust later. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:39, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure, Barkeep49! Will work on it now. Best wishes, Ben79487 (talk contribs) 04:44, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Great! Beyond the instructions if I can help you, know that I am watching the page (and the review once you start it) and will gladly assist you however I can. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 05:01, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Best, Ben79487 (talk contribs) 05:02, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Possible inappropriate tagging
I'm stopping by here after noticing EarwigBot adding the project banner to Anne with an E, a television series based loosely on the Anne of Green Gables books. The books themselves are widely recognized as children's literature and the show's article is in Category:Television programs based on children's books, but it's somewhat questionable that the series would also be considered a children's program. It's created by Moira Walley-Beckett (of Breaking Bad), noted for being decidedly darker and more adult than the books, and rated PG although I don't know which jurisdiction that applies to; my point is I think it may be inappropriate for Wikipedia to describe this as appropriate for children. I don't know if the bot is just following members of that category and I'm sure if I just remove the banner the bot will just put it back, so I'm wondering if the bot should be programmed to be more discerning and maybe ignore that category? Courtesy ping. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * My understanding has been that this would be a one time run. A bit of a catch-up and so if you remove the banner it would not return. I agree very much that some number of articles in categories that broadly are covered by this project are not actually something that falls inside our project scope. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Apologies for this mistaggings, Ivanvector, and thank you for pointing it out. You're right that we were a bit too aggressive with some of the categories involved. We'll go through and correct this. —  Earwig   talk 03:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Can someone reassess Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Double Down?
I have rewrote the plot summary for Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Double Down. I would like someone to peer-review it and re-class the article. I would add more real-world context, but I am not good at looking for information on that. Scrooge200 (talk) 03:53, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey there . Congrats on your work. Plot summaries are always the hardest part of any article I write about novels. I did a little digging and here are some sources you might be able to use for more real life information.


 * Kinney comments during name reveal
 * Booklist review
 * Sales figures
 * Hope that helps. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I have added your sources to the article, and I think it's better now. This eliminated both of the previous problems with the article. I think I'll nominate it to be a good article. Thanks! Scrooge200 (talk) 07:38, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

hi, great work on the article, having a look at the plot it may be a bit long at around 1100 words, which in turn unbalances the look of the article (see MOS:PLOT. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:58, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Double Down itself is super disorganized. It keeps going off into long tangents about things that aren't related at all to the main plot of the book. What do you think could be removed? Scrooge200 (talk) 18:43, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I would agree with Cool - there's too much plot to be a GA. I have been meaning to do a run through to try and trim but haven't gotten around to it. What are the important things that happen and who are the important characters. Documenting both of those is what's important. Wimpy kid as a series is heavy on visual humor and light on true plot so these can be relatively short sections given their overall page count. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:22, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh. You can trim it if you want. I trimmed some parts out of the book while I wrote the plot summary in the first place, like the piano lessons flashback, the exact details of Greg's nightmares, and Greg's rant on trophies. Scrooge200 (talk) 03:17, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have trimmed down the plot summary, although I think it's still a little long. Should I apply Chekhov's gun and remove everything that isn't relevant to the main plot points of the book? Or should I try to balance it out by searching for more real-world context? Scrooge200 (talk) 05:31, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Harry Potter & Portal:Narnia up for deletion
Portal:Harry Potter & Portal:Narnia have been nominated for deletion as part of a bundled nomination under the title: Miscellany for deletion/Bottom Importance Portals. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
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Theatrical adaptation, TV adaptation
I feel sure that editors have used theatrical adaptation and TV adaptation in the parallel senses of literary adaptation for the stage and for the TV screen. In fact, however, TV/television adaptation are two redirects to adaptation of television material for the cinema, or TV-to-film. Moments ago I posted a longer notice of the problem at Talk:Literary adaptation. (I post this short one also at WP:LIT, WP:TV). --P64 (talk) 22:50, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Charles Dickens for deletion
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Nomination of Portal:Harry Potter for deletion
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Proposed deletion of The Christy Miller series


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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
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Tintin
I have nominated The Adventures of Tintin for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. DrKay (talk) 15:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Sammy the Shunter AfD
Sammy the Shunter has been nominated for deletion. Mjroots (talk) 12:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Pippi Longstocking
Hi everyone,

I've been trying to work on the Pippi Longstocking article, and I've noticed that there's a list of the character's names in translations. It's a very interesting list, but I'm not sure if that's a current practice on here. Thoughts? Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 16:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Rapunzel-bellflower's userpage shows that they have retired from editing Wikipedia, but if others are interested, here are some thoughts. Whether or not including a list of a character's name in translation is a standard practice, I can think of a few factors that justify including such a list in the Pippi Longstocking article. One is that the author, Astrid Lindgren, is currently 19th on Wikipedia's list of most translated individual authors, so the translation of her work is notable due to the breadth of languages represented. A second factor, working in conjunction with the first, is that the character's name, Pippilotta Viktualia Rullgardina Krusmynta Efraimsdotter Långstrump, has special comic and cultural significance in Swedish (I read Swedish, but the English variations on the name included in the article make its uniqueness pretty clear!), so the question of how translators in 60+ languages have handled that translating challenge is notable. For these reasons, including the list seems reasonable to me. (I am noticing that most entries on the list appear to include only the translation of the first name, Pippi, and very last name, Långstrump, from the book titles, and not the character's other names, which could probably only be found by checking the body of each translated text.)


 * As to whether lists like these appear in other articles, the first thing that came to mind was the article on Nancy Drew, because that series has also been highly translated (~25 languages) and has comparable features to Pippi Longstocking (children's fiction, published in first half of the 20th century, enduring character). The Nancy Drew article includes a section on international publications, which briefly discusses the main character's name changes in translation. For the Harry Potter series (75+ languages), there is a stand-alone article on Harry Potter in translation, which discusses proper names (though, interestingly, not Harry's). Enid Blyton and R.L. Stine are other children's authors who also appear on the list of most translated individual authors, but I wouldn't expect articles about their work to include a list of names in translation because their work is not known for specific characters like Pippi, Nancy Drew, and Harry Potter. I hope that helps! Merenby (talk) 10:14, 13 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I support the inclusion of Pippi's names in other languages. I also miss a full list of the Pippi books (not just those in the template). These are:

*Pippi Longstocking (Pippi Långstrump, 1945) *Pippi Goes On Board (also known as: Pippi Goes Aboard, Swedish: Pippi Långstrump går ombord, 1946) *Pippi in the South Seas (Pippi Långstrump i Söderhavet, 1948) *Pippi's After-Christmas Party (Pippi Långstrump har julgransplundring, 1950) *Pippi Longstocking in the Park (Pippi Långstrump i Humlegården, 1945) *Pippi Moves In! (Pippi flyttar in, 1969)


 * I would suggest including references for each. The article is progressing well. It looks like a good candidate for GA. A GA review would also certainly lead to further suggestions for improvement.--Ipigott (talk) 09:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Possible GA nomination for two new pages
Hi all! Apologies if this is not the most appropriate place to ask for this, but I'd like a quick input for other members of the project concerning Julián is a Mermaid and Genesis Begins Again. I'd like to nominate them for Good Articles, but, since it'd be my first time doing this, I'm not sure they'd make the cut. There should be some more content to add to Julián, but I intend on doing that during the next couple days. Thanks! Isabelle 🔔 16:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)


 * @Isabelle Belato I think they're well worth nominating. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:37, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Rosie Banks (author)
Looks like a fan has constructed a bio for the non-existant Hachette author. Move to Secret Princesses then delete and redirect to Hachette (publisher)? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Pseudonymous authors can have articles (see Carolyn Keene; heck Lemony Snicket and Daniel Handler are both articles). But in this case I think it's fair to have it on the series rather than the author. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:40, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Andrew Ashton
This stub of questionable notability has been tagged for nine years. Is he really notable? If yes, please fix the issues. If not, please ping me and I'll nominate it for deletion. Bearian (talk) 00:09, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Little Women
Started a discussion for improving the above page on its talk if anyone's interested. jamdav86 (talk) 11:45, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Nancy Drew Featured article review
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FAR for Chinua Achebe
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Emotes article nominated for deletion
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Whizz Pop Bang
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Cinderella (original character)
Someone can create it? Thank you very much. --79.44.235.30 11:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Arthur Conan Doyle has an RFC
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Finally tackling the Children's Poetry article.
It's important, it's a stub, it's probably the highest priority page in the WikiProject, I'm trying to wrangle it. I've gotten rid of some immediately obvious plagiarism and am trying to clean up what's left.

I've got the history portion under way, but anyone who wants to help contribute, please be my guest.

ScribblingTiresias (talk) 05:59, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Great job updating the article, it looks a lot better now. I found | this fascinating study about the emotional power of poetic language and how it can act as a powerful stimulus for eliciting peak emotional responses. I thought it might help to further establish the importance for children's poetry. I also think it might help to add a section detailing awards that are given for outstanding poetry published for children, such as the NCTE Award for Excellence in Poetry for Children (US) and the Centre for Literacy in Primary Poetry Award (UK). I'll see if there's anything I can do to contribute and if I can find a few more awards for children's poetry, then I'll add them to the article myself. Huey117 (talk) 15:08, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I'm still not finished with the History section because some life things have come up, but it's nice to know I made a difference.

A section on poetry awards would be *amazing*- honestly I have some more links for the Children's Poetry Importance section, but I didn't want to nuke that one from orbit and leave the article hanging.

We also *really* need some information about other cultures' children's poetry; my main source was real Anglocentric.

Thank you again for your help. ScribblingTiresias (talk) 19:58, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * This is definitely an article that could use some attention and love. I don't have much to give to give in terms of content but did want to thank you for the work done here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * I added a short awards section to the article, it isn't great, but there aren't many awards for children's poetry that I was able to find. If you or anyone else has anything to add, it would be greatly appreciated. Huey117 (talk) 17:30, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

RfC notice
Firefangledfeathers 04:55, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Featured Article Save Award for Chinua Achebe
Featured Article Save Award nomination at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Chinua Achebe/archive1. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  03:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:J. K. Rowling § Splitting off list of awards
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:J. K. Rowling § Splitting off list of awards. Santacruz &#8258;  Please ping me!  23:06, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

FAR notice re J. K. Rowling
An editor has nominated J. K. Rowling for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:05, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Steve Jenkins
I recently created a draft for recently deceased children’s book author and illustrator Steve Jenkins. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you, Thriley (talk) 06:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

ELNEVER policy violations throughout the Harry Potter articles
See discussion and list here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  17:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Make Way for Ducklings FAR
I have nominated Make Way for Ducklings for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  15:54, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft article - The Fowl Twins Get What They Deserve
Just letting you know there's a draft article about the Third Fowl Twins novel at Draft:The Fowl Twins Get What They Deserve if anyone's interested in improving it. KaraLG84 (talk) 08:02, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Original Stories from Real Life
I have nominated Original Stories from Real Life for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Sarah Trimmer
I have nominated Sarah Trimmer for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 13:59, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Religious debates over the Harry Potter series Featured article review
I have nominated Religious debates over the Harry Potter series for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  01:57, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Satyajit Ray
I have nominated Satyajit Ray for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 16:55, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Mary Martha Sherwood Featured article review
I have nominated Mary Martha Sherwood for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  17:49, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Featured Article Save Award for Mary Martha Sherwood
There is a Featured Article Save Award nomination at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Mary Martha Sherwood/archive1. Please join the discussion to recognize and celebrate editors who helped assure this article would retain its featured status. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  18:16, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Children's literature/Collaboration
Hi all -

The most recent content I see on the WikiProject Children's literature/Collaboration page is dated 2010.

Is there another place where this type of work is happening in WikiProject Children's literature?

Thanks! JohnRussell (talk) 23:13, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Lessons for Children
I have nominated Lessons for Children for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 16:05, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Did_you_know_nominations for Kevin_Noble_Maillard (debut children's picture book author of Fry Bread: A Native American Family Story)
Please contribute if you can to the Kevin Noble Maillard article for the recent front page "Did you know ..." nomination (Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Kevin_Noble_Maillard)

Thanks! JohnRussell (talk) 02:48, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Looking for collaboration in article "David Gonzalez"
Hi, I wrote this article by a multi-faceted New York artist that is now in draft format: Draft:David Gonzalez (multi-disciplinary artist). The article is part of Wikiproject arts, WikiProject Children's literature, and WikiProject Biographies.

I respectfully ask if anyone can help me in making the wording neutral. The most important reference is an article from the NYT. https://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/12/movies/orpheus-as-a-charmer-with-a-sax.html can also be viewed here:                  Thank you very much Miskito89 (talk) 15:46, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Guide to writing children's book pages
Hi Wikiproject Children's Literature, a few years ago I wrote a guide to writing children's book pages and today I put it in on Wikipedia as a how-to essay: How to write Wikipedia pages for children’s picture books. You might find it helpful, although I bet most members of this project already know how to write a book page. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Redlinked merge target/notable author
Just calling the attention of anyone who might watch this to Talk:Night Kitchen Radio Theater. Arthur Yorinks is a very-notable redlinked author (article deleted for copyright reasons) for whom there exists an article on a defunct project of his that 'should' be merged to his article. I've done the work of finding the sources and confirming their availability/accessibility, but can't write the article at this exact moment. If someone who is better able to do an article on this subject justice than me wants to claim credit themselves (the sourcing is clearly sufficient to write something to a high level of quality), I'd certainly appreciate anything people are willing to do. I'll probably make a stub if no one does in a few days when things even out for me a little, but would prefer not to deprive someone of the full article if they want it. Vaticidalprophet 06:36, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Details of Online bullying and cancel culture in yellowface
Hi, I wrote this for my degree project.I want to know about the online bullying and cancel culture in yellowface by R.F Kuang.

I respectfully ask if anyone can help me in making the project 2402:8100:246E:32DB:0:0:0:1 (talk) 10:01, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

AfDs for three episodes of Steven Universe
Recently, a user has nominated the articles The Answer (Steven Universe), Cry for Help (Steven Universe), and Mindful Education, claiming they are nominating it per WP:BRV, "especially in regards to off-wiki information between the creator of the article and Steven Universe, which I won't describe here but suffice to say could be considered a violation of WP:G5." I would like these discussions to get more attention, so they don't fall under the radar. To leave your comment, please go to:


 * Articles for deletion/Mindful Education


 * Articles for deletion/Cry for Help (Steven Universe)


 * Articles for deletion/The Answer (Steven Universe)

These deletion discussions may be of interest to members of this project. Historyday01 (talk) 16:45, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Busytown (Richard Scarry series)
The article Busytown is being considered for deletion.

These are the first sentences from the article:
 * "Busytown is a fictional town depicted in several books by American children's author Richard Scarry. Busytown is inhabited by an assortment of anthropomorphic animals, including Huckle Cat, Lowly Worm, Mr. Frumble, police Sergeant Murphy, Mr. Fixit, Bananas Gorilla and Hilda Hippo.


 * "Busytown also refers to the media franchise that spawned from Scarry's books.

Please share your assessments of this article, positive or negative.

Thanks, -- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 02:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:ALA Best Fiction for Young Adults
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:ALA Best Fiction for Young Adults that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 18:06, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Young adult fiction
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Young adult fiction that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposal to deprecate the country parameter of Infobox book
There is a discussion at Template talk:Infobox book that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Οἶδα (talk) 10:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)