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Church/Cathedral articles with potentially unnecessary disambiguation
Is there any reason that any of the following can not be moved to their currently redlinked base page titles? Cheers! BD2412 T 02:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Catedral Santiago Apóstol &rarr; Catedral Santiago Apóstol (Fajardo, Puerto Rico)
 * Cathedral Basilica of St. James &rarr; Cathedral Basilica of St. James (Brooklyn)
 * Cathedral Church of St. James &rarr; Cathedral Church of St. James (Toronto)
 * Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption &rarr; Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption (Saginaw, Michigan)
 * Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham &rarr; Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham (Houston)
 * Cathedral of the Holy Angels &rarr; Cathedral of the Holy Angels (Gary, Indiana)
 * Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus &rarr; Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus (Knoxville, Tennessee)
 * Catherine Called Birdy &rarr; Catherine Called Birdy (film)
 * Catholic Church of Our Lady &rarr; Catholic Church of Our Lady (Aarhus)
 * Christ's Church Cathedral &rarr; Christ's Church Cathedral (Hamilton, Ontario)
 * Church of Prophet Elijah &rarr; Church of Prophet Elijah (Thessaloniki)
 * Church of St. Mary of the Spring &rarr; Church of St. Mary of the Spring (Istanbul)
 * Church of the Transfiguration, Episcopal &rarr; Church of the Transfiguration, Episcopal (Manhattan)
 * City Methodist Church &rarr; City Methodist Church (Gary, Indiana)
 * Conwal Parish Church &rarr; Conwal Parish Church (Church of Ireland)
 * Episcopal Cathedral of Saint Philip &rarr; Episcopal Cathedral of Saint Philip (Atlanta)
 * Evangelical Church of Egypt &rarr; Evangelical Church of Egypt (Synod of the Nile)
 * Gillfield Baptist Church &rarr; Gillfield Baptist Church (Petersburg, Virginia)
 * Holy Family Old Cathedral &rarr; Holy Family Old Cathedral (Anchorage, Alaska)
 * Holy Name of Mary Pro-Cathedral &rarr; Holy Name of Mary Pro-Cathedral (Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan)
 * Holy Rosary Parish Church &rarr; Holy Rosary Parish Church (Angeles City)
 * Lutheran Church of the Ascension &rarr; Lutheran Church of the Ascension (Savannah, Georgia)
 * New South Church &rarr; New South Church (Boston, Massachusetts)
 * Nineteenth Street Baptist Church &rarr; Nineteenth Street Baptist Church (Washington, D.C.)
 * North Strand Church &rarr; North Strand Church (Church of Ireland)
 * Old Whaler's Church &rarr; Old Whaler's Church (Sag Harbor)
 * Saint Andrews African Methodist Episcopal Church &rarr; Saint Andrews African Methodist Episcopal Church (Sacramento, California)
 * Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral &rarr; Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral (Baker City, Oregon)
 * St. Augustine's Episcopal Church &rarr; St. Augustine's Episcopal Church (Gary, Indiana)
 * St. Augustine's Monastery &rarr; St. Augustine's Monastery (Erfurt)
 * St. Benedict Cathedral &rarr; St. Benedict Cathedral (Evansville, Indiana)
 * St. Benedict the Moor Church &rarr; St. Benedict the Moor Church (New York City)
 * St. Columba Cathedral &rarr; St. Columba Cathedral (Youngstown, Ohio)
 * St. Eugenia's Church &rarr; St. Eugenia's Church (Stockholm)
 * St. John Cantius Church &rarr; St. John Cantius Church (Chicago)
 * St. John's Wilmot Church &rarr; St. John's Wilmot Church (New Rochelle, New York)
 * St. Joseph Co-Cathedral &rarr; St. Joseph Co-Cathedral (Thibodaux, Louisiana)
 * St. Mary of Blachernae Church &rarr; St. Mary of Blachernae Church (Berat)
 * St. Matthew's United Church &rarr; St. Matthew's United Church (Halifax, Nova Scotia)
 * St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral &rarr; St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral (Gaylord, Michigan)
 * St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica &rarr; St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica (Toronto)
 * St. Monica Catholic Church &rarr; St. Monica Catholic Church (Santa Monica, California)
 * St. Nicholas of Myra Church &rarr; St. Nicholas of Myra Church (Manhattan)
 * St. Takla Haymanot's Church &rarr; St. Takla Haymanot's Church (Alexandria)
 * St. Thomas's Anglican Church &rarr; St. Thomas's Anglican Church (Toronto)
 * Ste. Marie Church &rarr; Ste. Marie Church (Manchester, New Hampshire)


 * Yes! I'm sure many of these are highly ambiguous, especially allowing for different languages and styles (Saint vs St. etc)! For example the Church of St. Mary of Blachernae was a very important historical church in Constantinople (not so much left now). As the article says, the Albanian St. Mary of Blachernae Church (Berat) was named after it. We have a disam page for Cathedral Basilica of St James the Apostle, which stupidly doesn't mention what is by far the most famous one - Santiago de Compostela Cathedral. That alone makes Catedral Santiago Apóstol, Catedral Santiago Apóstol, Cathedral Basilica of St. James also ambiguous. Please DON'T make any changes without careful research. Johnbod (talk) 02:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That's why I'm asking the question. BD2412  T 02:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, you have your answer. Johnbod (talk) 02:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * St Augustine's Abbey (disambiguation) is another long page, to which St. Augustine's Monastery should redirect. Most of these, outside North America at least, should be using "Saint" not the American "St.", & if you want something useful to do there's are lots of redirects & disam work needed. Johnbod (talk) 02:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that there should be more standardisation to "Saint" in the names of churches which don't have WP:STRONGTIES to a particular English-speaking country. It would also be helpful if the titles of disambiguation pages had "Saint" as the default, with the "St." and "St" variants redirecting there as a matter of course.
 * Regarding the base page titles in the list above, I think the following ones should redirect to disambiguation pages (not all of which may have the best titles at the moment):
 * Catedral Santiago Apóstol and Cathedral Church of St. James – redirect to Cathedral of Saint James
 * Cathedral Basilica of St. James – redirect to Cathedral Basilica of Saint James
 * Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption – redirect to Cathedral of Saint Mary of the Assumption
 * Cathedral of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus – redirect to Sacred Heart Cathedral
 * Catholic Church of Our Lady – redirect to Church of Our Lady
 * Christ's Church Cathedral – possibly redirect to Christ Church Cathedral
 * Holy Rosary Parish Church – redirect to Holy Rosary Church
 * Saint Francis de Sales Cathedral – redirect to Cathedral of Saint Francis de Sales
 * St. Benedict the Moor Church – redirect to Church of Saint Benedict the Moor
 * St. John Cantius Church – possibly create a new Church of Saint John Cantius disambiguation page, as there are two of these with articles
 * St. Mary, Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral – redirect to Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cathedral
 * St. Michael's Cathedral Basilica – possibly redirect to Cathedral of Saint Michael
 * St. Monica Catholic Church – redirect to Saint Monica's Church
 * St. Nicholas of Myra Church – redirect to Saint Nicholas Church
 * St. Thomas's Anglican Church – possibly redirect to Saint Thomas Church
 * Ste. Marie Church – possibly redirect to Saint Mary's Church
 * Ham II (talk) 06:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks - this all seems sensible. Johnbod (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I would certainly encourage the creation of redirects to disambiguation pages wherever appropriate, so that these redlinks are not mistaken by other editors for unoccupied base page names to which disambiguated titles should be moved. BD2412  T 23:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * There appear to be multiple cathedrals of St. James, cathedrals of St. Mary, etc, in this list. The full names for the articles (with city/country addre) are appropriate to avoid ambiguity as to which cathedral/basilica is being referenced in an article. –Zfish118⋉talk 15:19, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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Christian education
This was a redirect to catechesis, but that didn't really seem appropriate as catechesis is not a term used by many Christians who are evangelical or non-liturgical protestants. Additionally catechesis typically ends with baptism, and many Christians perceive Christian education as a life long endeavor that has no ending point. For the time being I turned it into a disambiguation page.

If asked many Christians would connect Christian education to Bible Study in various forms such as cell groups or Sunday School. Additionally Christian education, would also include seminaries, Christian education institutions such as Christian universities, etc. There are undergraduate and graduate degrees in Christian Education, and various journals devoted to Christian education such as the Journal of Research on Christian Education and Christian Education Journal (both SAGE journals) among others. This is a topic that deserves a wide scope treatment, and should be a core high priority article of this WikiProject. I hope someone will take the time to create a broad view article that encompasses the full scope of Christian education across diverse Christian denominations. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

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Relevant CfD, please add your feedback
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Proofread request
I am working on an article for The Signpost, set to be published on the 28th, that covers a topic on Wikipedia which involves Christianity. Once it's finished, could someone review it briefly? I'm not seeking assistance with the content itself. However, I would like to ensure it doesn't unintentionally contain any offensive material, such as tropes or dog whistles which I'm unaware of. So far, I don't think it has the potential to cause offense, but I would appreciate a specialist perspective on it in case I've missed anything. Please reply to this and I will send the final draft through EmailUser when I'm finished. Svampesky ( talk ) 20:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure! ~ 21:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)