Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Church of the Nazarene/Archive 4

Coordinators' working group
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

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Discussion regarding project organization
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Navigation template needed
Many of the other Christianity related groups have a template like Template:Roman Catholicism2 which allows editors to easily link from one important article regarding the church to another. Most of the articles linked, because they are linked in that way, tend to be articles which are most important to the project. Would anyone here have any interest in trying to create such a template for the CotN? John Carter (talk) 17:04, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting proposal, John. I've encountered so many unnecessary navboxes that I guess I never thought of creating a useful navigation template :-P. Well, if we go with this, we might need to rethink how we name and use some Nazarene-related articles. For example, mere lists of conventions, GSs, and schools probably won't cut it. And if the templates to which you refer cover various topics that, in this case, are covered by the main CotN article, we'd either need to split those or just accept the sad fact that CotN isn't big and/or notable enough to warrant any splits. Thoughts? --Aepoutre (talk) 17:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, my thinking is that the template would be most useful in linking together the various articles which are most important to getting a full understanding of what the church is. In this case, I would think Wesleyan and Holiness movement should be included, to indicate the church's origins, maybe separate links for the various groups which eventually joined to form the church, in the probability that those churches eventually get their own articles, Arminianism, given the church's theological stance, and maybe free grace and any other theological points of great importance to the church, abstinence from alcohol, General Superintendent (Church of the Nazarene), maybe an article on the Church's polity, as it seems unique, List of Church of the Nazarene schools, Nazarene Youth International, Sunday School and Discipleship Ministries International, Nazarene Missions International, JESUS Film Harvest Partners, World Mission, Work and Witness, Compassionate Ministries, Nazarene Publishing House, and maybe a short list of the most influential people involved in the history of the church. General standards say that each group is more or less allowed to have up to 100 articles in a template, and that those articles, whether specifically "limited" to that church or not, become in effect the most important articles to that project by virtue of being in its navigation template. Right now, I agree that a lot of this content seems to be in the main article itself. WorldCat lists at least around 300 books and 2800 total articles on the church here, and there should be enough material in them to make separate articles on each of the major items of the church in time. Even now, though, the links in the template can be made to those sections of the article. John Carter (talk) 17:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, neat. I'd feel more comfortable creating articles in advance of the template, but this could be good. We might consider creating a more informational article than the list of schools (like Nazarene higher education, or Nazarene education, or something), so I'll see if there's anything similar for Catholicism. It would be helpful because it could offer some history of education in the church, and how the schools have shifted about, and why it's important to the church. Similarly, the GS article would need to be more than a list, and the list of conventions might need to be expanded and split up. It would be nice to link Arminianism and such, so this is great. I'd need to do a good bit of research to bone up, as I've mostly been working on articles under the purview of the universities project recently. --Aepoutre (talk) 18:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

You will want to include the "Top" priority articles from the project. This will help with assesment as well. -- Secisek (talk) 11:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Update
I modernized the project layout to the standards at the parent project. I hope you all like it! -- Secisek (talk) 11:51, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Mike Dow
The subject listed above is called a Nazarene in his infobox. Is he more accurately a member of the Church of the Nazarene? If yes, the box should be changed to reflect that. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 18:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

List of Church members
It would probably be very good for the project to have a List of notable members of the Church of the Nazarene or something similar. Having such a list would allow individuals to clearly know whether a person who attended a certain school, for instance, was in fact a member of the church or not, and make any tagging much less controversial. It probably would be very helpful to have each name listed referenced, though. Does anyone know of such an extant list of notable members of the church? John Carter (talk) 20:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of the material regarding current members of the church can be found at this site. I'm not sure if it itself is considered reliable, but I'm fairly sure the information can be substantiated elsewhere as well. John Carter (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's def. not a complete listing. Wyclef Jean, for example, was raised Nazarene. He attended Eastern Nazarene and dropped out. His younger brother, Sam, graduated from the ENC and went to BU law school after. I suppose that, if we wanted such a list, various sources could support the information. Wyclef's article includes an interview I found where he says he was raised Nazarene, and info. about Sam is at www.enc.edu/history somewhere. Interesting proposal. I think you're more gung-ho about the COTN than anyone else I know -- you must not be Nazarene yourself :-). --Aepoutre (talk) 15:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Consultation on renaming article: Roman Catholic Church --> Catholic Church
Wikipedians at Talk:Roman Catholic Church are discussing the merits of changing the article name as such. Roman Catholic Church → Catholic Church. Please share your opinions there. -- Carlaude talk 12:02, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Christianity coordinators elections
Any parties interested in being one of the coordinators of WikiProject Christianity and its various related projects is encouraged to list themselves as a candidate at WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 2. It would be particularly beneficial if we had individuals from as broad a range of areas of the project as possible, to help ensure that we have people knowledgable about the widest range of content possible. John Carter (talk) 20:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)