Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cleveland/Archive 1

Project rename
I renamed the project so that it only has one WikiProject in it. I figured now was the time to do it before the project gets too far. I hope it doesn't cause too many problems. --Beirne (talk) 09:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. I work late at my job, and as a result edit even later, so sometimes I miss little things like, um, double naming Wikiprojects. Thanks for taking care of that. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 18:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

(add to the list with an asterisk to bullet-point) == Geographic scope ==

I hate to bring up an issue early in the project, but we might as well settle this early. What is the geographic scope of the article? As described in the project it is the City of Cleveland, but I see Blossom Music Center in Cuyahoga Falls got put in the project. I do of course know that the Cleveland Orchestra plays there in the summer, but it is an indirect sort of indirect Cleveland article. I'm normally a stickler for making sure city articles do not include suburban stuff, but I figure a project can have any scope the members want. I can think of a few possibilities: I'm flexible on this, but knowing the scope will help me know what to include. --Beirne (talk) 00:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Make it City of Cleveland only. This will probably be overly strict.
 * 2) Make it City of Cleveland and related articles throughout Greater Cleveland. I think this is what it is working out to now unofficially.
 * 3) Make is into a Greater Cleveland project.


 * I'm all for the democratic process... let's call a vote. I'm leaning toward #2, but keeping it more limited to GC articles that have direct ties to Cleveland proper (I tagged Blossom due to its connection the the Orchestra).Ryecatcher773 (talk) 13:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I would also favor option 2. Typically, when people from the area say they're "from Cleveland" they mean the greater Cleveland area - in actuality, they may be from areas as far out as Lorain, Mentor, or Brecksville.THD3 (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm fine with #2, with Ryecatcher's clarification. So Blossom could be in the project, but not Cuyahoga Falls.  --Beirne (talk) 15:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * For our purposes at present, Beirne, I'd say that makes sense. Who knows though -- at some point, if the interest in the project gains enough momentum perhaps we will follow the example of, say, Wikiproject Chicago, which takes into account the 6-county area known collectively known to many here as 'Chicagoland', and expand to cover the Greater Cleveland area in a broad scope..Ryecatcher773 (talk) 05:19, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood. At that point we'll have #3.  --Beirne (talk) 11:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I would support #2 mostly if it's going to be about Cleveland, but we need some criteria to guide people in knowing what articles that are outside the city itself have enough of a connection to it to warrant inclusion in the project. --JonRidinger (talk) 21:21, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Sounds like a plan. We'll start a list of criteria... add accordingly. (see next section below)Ryecatcher773 (talk) 00:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions: Criteria for inclusion of WikProject Cleveland's scope
(add to the list with an asterisk to bullet-point)
 * Articles that pertain directly to people, places and things that are in Cleveland.
 * Articles that pertain to historic events that occurred in and/or had a significant impact on Cleveland (e.g. Hough Riots).
 * Articles that have indirect or limited links to Cleveland's geography, even though the subject of the article may exceed and/or occur mainly outside the boundaries of the city of Cleveland proper (e.g. Mayfield Road, the Metroparks)
 * Articles that have an indirect connection to Cleveland organizations, even though the subject of the article falls outside the parameters of the city of Cleveland proper (e.g. Blossom).

Cleveland FA
The more I look at the Cleveland article, the less it seems like FA material to me. It has lots of one-sentence paragraphs and bulleted lists like in Demographics and Education. The article was promoted to FA several years ago (2005 with the last review in 2007) and FA standards have improved since then. Any other thoughts? --JonRidinger (talk) 20:04, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The article used to have prose for the demographics and education sections (until very recently for the demographics section), but the text was replaced with the lists. I've been meaning to restore and update the demographics paragraph, but haven't had the opportunity. The schools material needs more work. I don't understand why the article has two sections on schools, one under demographics and the other under education. - Eureka Lott 20:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * If there is one article that is essential to this project, it should go without saying that its this one. The 'demographics' subheading is the more substantive of the two educatio sections, with the other one being nothing more than a list (which could be removed and/or re-located to the Cleveland Metropolitan School District article. The city article should cover the essentials on all topics concerned, but any appropriate subject with more than a paragraph or two on any specific subject warrants its own article with an appropriate see also: prompt.Ryecatcher773 (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

The Cleveland Memory Project
Does anyone know if The Cleveland Memory Project is available for fair use? http://www.clevelandmemory.org/copyright/ Emjaymem (talk) 19:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Importance categories
Just to let you know that you have Category:High-importance WikiProject Cleveland articles and also Category:High-importance Cleveland articles. Ditto with all the other importance categories. You might want to decide which naming scheme you're going to use and get the others deleted. Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Flag of Cleveland
Greetings from the project 1½ hours east of you! This has been bugging for a long time now: What do the symbols in the upper part of the shield on the flag of Cleveland look like? Currently the appear to something from a Rorschach test. If I had a fairly high-res image of the flag, I'm sure I could redraw the ones currently in the SVG version of the flag. ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 01:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * In the upper left-hand corner there are anvil, a hammer and a wheel, and in the upper an anchor, windlass and oars. Because these are all superimposed over each other, at that resolution you're right... it does look like a Rorschach. Unfortunately, other than this website: http://www.usflags.com/products/Cleveland-Flag-City-of.asp, I haven't seen a better image online, and even that one is a bit too small to really make out. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 07:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * EurekaLott left me a note on my talk page and is going to email some high-res photos of the flag so that I can redraw the symbols. ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 16:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Cleveland articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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A consideration for cross project consolidation of talk page templates
I have started a conversation here about the possibility of combining some of the United States related WikiProject Banners into WikiProject United States. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions please take a moment and let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 19:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * We'd prefer to not consolidate, as each WikiProject has a certain sense of TLC attended to its own set of articles, and in this case, ours (WP-Cleveland) is fine the way it is. By no means would I dissuade you from adding articles to your WP-USA which also fall into our our project's scope, but we like to keep things the way they are, thanks. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 05:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next
Casliber recently posted a suggestion on the talk page for WikiProject United States about getting the US Wikipedians Collaboration page going again in an effort to build up articles for GA through FA class. See U.S. Wikipedians' notice board/USCOTM. After several days of work from him the page is up and ready for action. A few candidates have already been added for you to vote on or you can submit one using the directions provided. If you are looking for inspiration here is a link to the most commonly viewed articles currently under the scope of Wikiproject United States. There are tons of good articles in the various US related projects as well so feel free to submit any article relating to US topics (not just those under the scope of WPUS). This noticeboard is intended for ‘’’All’’’ editors working on US subjects, not just those under WPUS.

The next item I intend to start updating is Portal:United States if anyone is interested in helping. Again this is not specific to WPUS and any help would be greatly appreciated to maximize visibility of US topics. The foundation has already been established its just a matter of updating the content with some new images, biographies and articles. Please let leave a comment on the Portals talk page or let me know if you have any questions or ideas. --Kumioko (talk) 19:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Apollon of Cleveland
Hello, Please, could someone take a photo of this statue of Apollon at the Cleveland Museum of Art in order to illustrate this article ? Many thanks. :) --Pixeltoo (talk) 17:40, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I found a couple images at Flickr and uploaded them at Wikimedia Commons. They're not the greatest quality, but they can do until we get something better. - Eureka Lott 19:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool that was quick! Thanks for your help ! :p --Pixeltoo (talk) 22:21, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

These articles need fleshing out: Rockefeller Park and Cleveland Cultural Gardens
I'm in Chicago (and have been for some while) and inasmuch am unable to get photos, access historical society info from Cleveland/Cuyahoga County, etc. Would a present-day native be able to flesh these out, preferably with snapshots for both? There is stuff here that are part of the National Registry of Historic Places, yet not one of them -- or the park itself for that matter -- have articles. I can edit and whatnot, but this is a job that needs someone local with the TLC to do right by these Cleveland treasures. Thanks. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 00:45, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Info about Cleveland suburbs
The NYT posted an article discussing urban decay afflicting Cleveland suburbs: WhisperToMe (talk) 00:12, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Tavernise, Sabrina. "Outside Cleveland, Snapshots of Poverty’s Surge in the Suburbs." The New York Times. October 24, 2011.

Greater Cleveland Aquarium
I created a new article for the city's newest (?) museum addition. The article will probably have to wait a few weeks for fleshing out, seeing as it doesn't open until late January, but when the time comes photos (particularly a good one for the infobox) would certainly be a welcome addition. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 15:29, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

FAR Notification
nominated Superman for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 20:42, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Northeast Ohio
It has been deemed by a few of the project members that an article for Northeast Ohio is necessary to distinguish the differences between the Greater Cleveland area and the other metro areas of the region. Please feel free to participate in this undertaking, and post comments/concerns/questions here. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 15:06, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Jim Miller (musician)
I've created an article about guitarist Jim Miller, with sections about the bands Oroboros and The JiMiller Band. I'd welcome any Cleveland-interest editors to contribute.Rosencomet (talk) 16:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Request: A free picture of John Adams (the guy who drums at Indians games)
Hi everyone,

I've decided I'm going to get John Adams (drummer) to Good Article status. Trouble is, I could use a good, more recent photo of him. I have a copyrighted image of him at the last game in Cleveland Stadium, and there are probably thousands of photos of him throughout the years, but I figure I should get one that is under a free license or something... I know next to nothing about copyright laws, but I know enough about Wikipedia to know this is the way to go. Can anyone help me find one? Or maybe you've even taken one yourself that you wouldn't mind releasing? Or just some advice on how to proceed would help.

Hope I've made myself clear. (I'm in a rush). Okay, thanks in advance and go Tribe!

Bobnorwal (talk) 20:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Peer review request
Larry Doby was elevated to GA status today. If anyone would like to tackle a peer review, please feel free to drop a note on my talk page or the article talk page. Zepppep (talk) 16:13, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for input
Talk:Cleveland Browns Stadium. Second move request. I opposed the first, but I nominated this second one. City Council approved the name change on 2/15/13. Cleveland.com ref is linked in discussion. Thanks.  Levdr1 lp  /  talk  06:28, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Request for input: Al Pawlowski AFD
Articles for deletion/Al Pawlowski. Please help generate discussion. Thanks.  Levdr1 lp  /  talk  19:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Please note. I added this request thinking that Pawlowski was part of this Wikiproject (he is not).  Still, he's a sports broadcaster based out of Northeast Ohio and serves as a backup TV announcer for in-game coverage of the Cleveland Indians.   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  19:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Request for input: Jeff Phelps AFD
Articles for deletion/Jeff Phelps. Please help generate discussion. Thanks.  Levdr1 lp  /  talk  15:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Request for input: Western Reserve Public Media
Requested move 28 September 2013. Please help generate discussion. Thanks. Levdr1 lp /  talk  18:39, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Request for input: Cleveland Stadium
See Talk:Cleveland Stadium. Please help generate discussion. Thank you. Levdr1 lp /  talk  04:44, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Dazz Band
The article Dazz Band needs some cleanup. It also needs people to add it to their Special:Watchlist because people occasionally add information that's not backed by reliable sources or which conflicts with information that is already backed by a source. See Talk:Dazz Band for more details. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  21:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Sports in Cleveland
I'm interested in making this a higher class of article. Suggestions? ৳€Ø฿€ƦȺ₡Ⱥƪ৳€Ø฿€ƦȺ₡Ⱥƪ 03:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Barnstar
This a little something I created for the project.

It's high time that Cleveland related articles and those who work on them get a little recognition, and this is my way of doing just that.

Vjmlhds (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Portal:New York City FPO nomination
Hello. I have nominated Portal:New York City for Featured Portal status. Please give it a look and make any comments at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:New York City. Thank you. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014
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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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