Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College baseball/Archive 4

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Cowlitz Black Bears
Was wondering if this team is notable enough for a stand-alone article. The two sources provided seem to be WP:PRIMARY; they show the team exists, but are not really helpful per establishing notability per WP:GNG or WP:ORG. Is there a more specific guideline for baseball teams, similar to WP:NBASEBALL used for players, which may be relevant here? — Marchjuly (talk) 22:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Please provide your opinion in a proposed change to “Infobox college coach”
Thanks. Template talk:Infobox college coach Rikster2 (talk) 21:49, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * This discussion could use more opinions to try to reach a consensus. Please go give your opinion if you can. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 14:58, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Once more, this discussion could use more input to reach consensus. Rikster2 (talk) 11:55, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Greg Goff
Would some uninvolved editors please take a look and weigh in on a content dispute at Greg Goff? Thanks! Billcasey905 (talk) 03:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

WP 1.0 Bot Beta
Hello! Your WikiProject has been selected to participate in the WP 1.0 Bot rewrite beta. This means that, starting in the next few days or weeks, your assessment tables will be updated using code in the new bot, codenamed Lucky. You can read more about this change on the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team page. Thanks! audiodude (talk) 06:48, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Use of polls
For the past several years, the consensus has been to use Collegiate Baseball as the primary poll for standings pages, schedules, and other text. At one point, some editors (including me) advocated changing to a different poll, but it was never finalized or implemented. Now, bold edits have been made and reverted on 2019 Southeastern Conference baseball standings to change to D1Baseball. I'm not opposed to a change, but believe this needs wider discussion and needs to be implemented across all standings templates and season pages if so decided. Please chime in with your thoughts, preferred primary poll, and the scope of the change (i.e. starting with which season?). If a change is decided, we also could use some help in making the changes across the project! Billcasey905 (talk) 05:59, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Reason being is that when you go to NCAA.com and click rankings D1Baseball poll comes up. I think since the NCAA shows it as the "main" poll then we should use it. Weathergeakal (talk) 15:29, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * What do you think the scope should be? Do you think it should start with this season, or going back how far? Billcasey905 (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Starting with 2019 is fine with me. Weathergeakal (talk) 17:04, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * works for me too. --rogerd (talk) 19:06, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm on board with it. DMC511 (talk) 01:19, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, let's implement on standings templates and season articles as of the poll to be released on Monday, February 18, for the 2019 season and going forward. Any objections? Billcasey905 (talk) 02:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * To note, Template:NCAA Division I baseball rankings does not include an option for the D1Baseball poll. Does anyone know how to add that?  I think it would be relevant for the rankings on a season page to show the rankings in the standings. swimmer33 20:48, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look tonight, and either add or see if I can find someone willing. Billcasey905 (talk) 07:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, we can use Ranking movements. Billcasey905 (talk) 11:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like you got it working based on the Clemson page swimmer33 14:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * What do we want to do for old pages using this template? They look a little ugly unless the blank spaces get added in. swimmer33 14:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * agree, need to figure out how to fix that. Billcasey905 (talk) 14:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * If you can add them all at the bottom it would be easy, but I'm not sure that will work. I updated the 2019 Clemson page with the new spaces, but I did it line by line, which took a while.  Later, I can check and see if you can just add all the spaces at the bottom quickly, and then it would be easy to copy/paste from there.swimmer33 14:30, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what order the parameters are in, so you can paste them all at the bottom. Billcasey905 (talk) 14:37, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've updated the templates here. Everything pre-2019 just has all the blanks at the bottom so they can be copy/pasted. swimmer33 15:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm wondering if we should just move to Ranking movements. That template allows us to select the polls to show, which for historical purposes is cleaner and keeps us from having problems when polls change, as they inevitably do.  Any thoughts? Billcasey905 (talk) 08:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Does anyone know where to find historical D1 Baseball rankings?swimmer33 15:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

"New" vs. "old" Big East for basketball articles
Please take part in a discussion on this at Talk:Big East Conference. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk)

Naming convention consensus discussion involving two schools
At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball. Posting here as there probably other sports that would be affected. It involves two schools that used to be identically named but one changed its athletic WP:COMMONNAME a few years ago. Please help reacha consensus, it’s a little complex. Thanks in advance. Rikster2 (talk) 00:23, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Mass TfD of NCAA standings templates
See discusssion at Templates for discussion/Log/2019 March 4.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 22:39, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Many of them have been renominated individually at Templates for discussion/Log/2019 March 13 the templates of interest to this WikiProject are Template:2012 NCAA Division I baseball independents standings, Template:2011 Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference baseball standings, and Template:2011 Horizon League baseball standings.UCO2009bluejay (talk) 14:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Another TfD regarding the project Template:Minnesota NCAA Division I college baseball venue navbox.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 19:46, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Two month virtual editathon on Women in Sports
WikiProject Women in Red is devoting the next two months (July and August) to a virtual editathon on Women in Sports. Please take this opportunity to write more articles about women in baseball who lag far behind men on Wikipedia.--Ipigott (talk) 07:31, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Discord
Hey all, I hope everyone is safe and healthy. My name is HickoryOughtShirt?4 and I'm a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey. I was wondering if there was any interest in starting a WikiProject Sports channel on Discord? There's quite a few of us who are interested in sports, and I think it would be a good idea to help the WikiProject recruit more members. You guys can join us through here.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Mike Jackson
Mike Jackson (right-handed pitcher), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Therapyisgood (talk) 20:03, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Ryan Hanigan
Ryan Hanigan, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Therapyisgood (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

WikiConference North America
Hey all! I am planning on having a WikiConference North America sports panel December 12 3:00 EST. This is something that has never been done before and there are many sports which are "native" to North America and part of the America identity. What it seems to be is that we (you, me, and other members of WikiSports) will be in a Zoom (or other video conferencing app) to discuss our experiences in editing sports on Wikipedia. These can range from combating vandalism to how to best get permission to use sports photos. The organizers of WikiConference North America (WCNA) created an Etherpad surrounding planning which I will link here. if you Command F "sports" you will find the section. This will be the very first panel WCNA has ever had on sports so not much to go off of here.

Please ping me if you have questions as this page is not on my watchlist. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 20:50, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Module college color
There is a discussion at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2020_December_28 that editors of this project may be interested in participating in.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 16:53, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Coaches' poll rankings
Does anyone know of any way to account for the coaches' poll rankings coming one week earlier than usual when using NCAA Division I baseball ranking movements? The template automatically takes the preseason coaches' ranking and enters it through week 2, which doesn't work this year since the first coaches' rankings are out for week 2. Is there any way to get around this? See 2021 Arkansas Razorbacks baseball team for an example. Thanks, PCN02WPS  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 04:16, 2 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I fixed the template for you. It looks like they've been releasing the Poll week 2 during the last few years. DMC511 (talk) 06:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thank you! I appreciate the quick response. From what I saw on the various "YEAR NCAA Division I baseball rankings" pages, they released it for week 2 until the mid-2010s, when they bumped it to week 3, before going back to week 2 this year. Not sure if there needs to be an option to keep that preseason ranking through week 2 as it seems now that most templates are not displaying properly without that parameter (2020 Arkansas Razorbacks baseball team). PCN02WPS  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 06:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Consensus needed for inclusion of college athlete parent categories
There is a consensus discussion underway about whether or not to include a parent category (in this case Category:College men's soccer players in the United States) in addition to the specific school category (for example Category:Akron Zips men's soccer players). One school of thought is that college athletics category structures should be similar, but another is that individual sport projects should be free to chart their own paths on the matter. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football to join the discussion if you are so inclined. Rikster2 (talk) 12:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Aubrey Huff Good Article Reassessment
Aubrey Huff, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. --Whiteguru (talk) 01:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

AfD: Ryan Coe
There is an open AfD that the members of this project may be interested in, please see here. Thanks, Ejgreen77 (talk) 06:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Longhorns Baseball Retired Numbers
Template:Longhorns Baseball Retired Numbers has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. SportsGuy789 (talk) 00:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horace B. Griffen
There's an AfD for one of Arizona State's early head baseball coaches here. Participants in this project may want to weigh in. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 22:10, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Consensus conversation: College of Charleston versus Charleston
Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College Basketball and weigh in. As the college football, basketball, and baseball projects should be aligned, it'd be ideal if members from all of them participated. Thank you. SportsGuy789 (talk) 23:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Help with New Entry on Regional and Super Regional hosts (since 1999) on NCAA Div. I tourney main page
Hi all who are part of this project,

I added a new section in the main NCAA Division I Baseball Championship page with a collapsible table that lists all of the Regional and Super regional host sites since the current tourney format was introduced in 1999.

Most of the links to teams, cities and ballparks should be updated soon. There was a ton of manual work in this, especially when it came to bolding the series that were won by each host. I did as good a proofreading job as possible, but it's possible an incorrect entry or two slipped through the cracks. To help check for veracity, and to add more completeness to the table, I'm wondering if we can link each year to the actual regional or super regional it is referencing, which will be a heavier lift (although my knowledge of tricks to editing articles quicker is admittedly very primitive). Help here would be much appreciated.

Further things that more savvy Wikipedia editors can consider: - reordering the way the table is sorted when it is viewed initially - optimizing column width - other formatting changes, such as colors

I'm also considering adding a short table with a list of teams that were the highest seed in their regional/super regional but did not host. Let me know what we think about this. Thanks! Garrettcarrot12 (talk) 16:56, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Question
There is a final standings section at 2022 NCAA Division I Baseball Tournament. Is this WP:OR, albeit as intuitive as can be?-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 19:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Mass-TfD college softball navboxes nomination
I'm not sure that WikiProject College Softball is active so I'm pinging related projects, in case anyone has an opinion on the mass-TfD. Please see Templates for discussion/Log/2023 March 24 if you care either way. SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Mass-TfD college baseball navboxes nomination
For those in this WikiProject interested: Templates for discussion/Log/2023 April 11. Thank you. SportsGuy789 (talk) 04:00, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

rank column in the game log table
I noticed that several editors editing SEC teams game logs list their own ranking in the rank column and if the opponent is ranked they put "at No. 3 Florida". My understanding is that that column was for the opponent's rank and it is enough to have the subject's ranking in the info box at the top of the page. Can you clarify this, because I have been editing Kentucky's page for the last several years and one of us has been doing it wrong. Thank you. rogerd (talk) 04:59, 13 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Rogerd the style you describe the other editor doing it (team's own ranking in the rank column and opponent's ranking as "at No. 3 Florida") is the correct way - this is also done on college football and college basketball pages, where the schedule is done with a template and the opponent's rank and team's own rank have different parameters (rank and opprank). PCN02WPS  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 03:48, 14 April 2023 (UTC)