Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football/Archive-Oct2008

CFB: links
I noticed you guys have quite a few shortcut redirects beginning with CFB:. These cross-namespace redirects have been deprecated and I would suggest moving them to WP: shortcuts (e.g. moving CFB:N to WP:CFB/N and so on). If I hear no objections I will begin moving them in the next week or so, although any redirects that are excessive or inappropriate are liable to be sent to WP:RFD instead. Stifle (talk) 10:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've moved all CFB:foo to WP:CFBfoo today, having heard no objection. The CFB: links still exist but point out to the user that the WP: link is now the correct one to use. I will delete the CFB: links in a week or two. Stifle (talk) 12:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I am shortly deleting these CFB: links. Stifle (talk) 14:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

2007 SEC standings
Myself and an anonymous user have become involved in a dispute. I claim that, due to SECsports.com and ESPN.com standings, Alabama finished 5th in the SEC West standings. The anonymous user says that, according to the Alabama media guide, Alabama finished 3rd in the West. However, I feel that the SECsports.com record and even our own 2007 article should be regarded as the official standings, as opposed to that of just the University of Alabama athletic department. Please help to get this situation resolved. (Please reference my talk page and the IP user's talk page to look at the external links.) – Latics (talk) 00:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Here is a link to Secsports.com Media Guide. If you will notice, on page 23 it lists Alabama as finishing 4-4 tied for 3rd in the west. http://www.secsports.com/doc_lib/fbc_2008_mediaguide_sec1.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.113.65.140 (talk) 00:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Latics left a note on my user page and asked me to take a look at this. I checked out the media guide and it does say that Alabama was tied for third place with a 4-4 conference record.  This is correct and is the way we normally give conference standings.  As a tiebreaker for sorting for display prposes teams that have the same record, sometimes we use overall record and other times, we just sort them alphabetically, but it is correct to say that all three teams were tied for third place.  It is NOT correct to say that they were in 5th place.  They may be LISTED as the fifth team anywhere you see just a list without numbers, but I am sure anywhere that uses numbers will list them as 1. LSU, 2. Auburn, 3-t. Arkansas, 3-t. MSU, 3-t. Alabama, 6. Mississippi.  SECSports.com did not list them with numbers - they just listed them in a list .   So the short version is, the IP user is correct - Alabama finished tied for third place. --B (talk) 03:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/2006-2008 Southern Oregon Raiders football teams
Hello,

2006-2008 Southern Oregon Raiders football teams has been nominated for deletion. Reviewing the article and its 2008 season section, your comments would be appreciated at Articles for deletion/2006-2008 Southern Oregon Raiders football teams. SashaNein (talk) 20:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Assistance Needed
Please help me with this page. The bottom half is centered, when it shouldn't be. I have an idea it might have something to do with this page. Thanks for your help.Topgun530 (talk) 17:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Ryan2845 (talk) 18:00, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Walter J. West restored
The article Walter J. West has been restored by the deleting admin, stating that the article now meets WP:ATHLETE.--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! JKBrooks85 (talk) 03:31, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Alured Ransom restored
The article Alured Ransom has been restored by the deleting admin, stating "significantly improved since AfD"--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

"West Precedence" essay
I've put up an essay at WikiProject College football/West precedent that I'd like some input on. Let me know what you think...--Paul McDonald (talk) 05:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You've got a point there, but it's going to be difficult to convince others outside this project of that fact. In addition, by fighting just one element of the AfDs, you leave the other, harder aspects -- that the articles were short and only had one source: that of the school itself. If you bring this up, I'd strongly suggest having a plan in place to remedy the other problems with the articles as well. JKBrooks85 (talk) 10:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * True. I'm also not ready to "release" the idea just yet as some of the articles do indeed still need some work.--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Name spelling
I created a page for Ian Cambell, but I spelled the name of the page wrong. His last name is spelled "Campbell". Can someone fix it for me please?Topgun530 (talk) 18:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I attempted to move it to Ian Campbell, but that is a disambiguation page, so I moved it to Ian Campbell (American football) instead. — X96lee15 (talk) 18:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much.Topgun530 (talk) 20:07, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Review
AfD discussion Articles for deletion/Don Lee (college football) for articles Don Lee (college football), Norman Joseph, and Scott Highsmith was closed as "no consensus" which normally calls for keeping the article. Subsequently, the articles have been erased and replaced by a redirect. You can participate in the deletion review at Deletion review/Log/2008 October 22.--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * DRV is now closed and has been replaced by a proposed merger. Join the discussion at Talk:Belhaven College.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

2000 Sugar Bowl
The college football article 2000 Sugar Bowl is currently a featured article candidate. Any comments, concerns, or support would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 03:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Ross Fiscus
Check this out! Ross Fiscus has been restored, the guy was one of the first professonal players ever! Played with William Heffelfinger at Allegheny!--Paul McDonald (talk) 01:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

All Dickinson College coach articles restored
The last remaining coach article for Dickinson College, J. William Williams has been restored after a deletion review.--Paul McDonald (talk) 11:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)