Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Community/Communitas!

Collaboration of the Month - August 2006
COTY | COTM | COTF | COTW | COTD

Today I'm invoking Communitas!

Our COTM is Virtual community ( what we are ) &bull; CQ 01:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Participants
qualification: show interest

Singkong2005
Singkong2005 Joined the TaskForce at the end of July - 2006. Right away he began thinking of ways to implement the TaskForce Template. He began a Dialog with Charley right away and began to work the plan &mdash; plan the work.

TaskForce
Hi CQ - I added my name to the TaskForce, as I have a little bit of experience fiddling with tables... but I'm not 100% clear on what the taskforce is doing exactly, or how you were thinking of using the table. Perhaps you could give some examples on the WikiProject page, and fill in at least 2 or 3 cells, so we get an idea? Thanks.

Also, re Context of community:
 * Is this a standard term in sociology? If so, it needs to be clarified, with suitable references. I don't mean to be too demanding, but unless there is some kind of link, in English (internal and/or external) it's hard to know what it's about, and whether it's even a suitable topic for an article.
 * Is this term translated from German? If so, it might be worth asking whether there is another phrase which is commonly used in English for the same concept.
 * I suggested on the talk page that you move it to you own userspace (User:CQ/Context of community) until the questions about it are resolved, and it is at least suitable for a stub. You could link to it from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Community and ask for input.
 * Standard practice is not to add headings if there is no text below them yet - so it's best to add text, or remove the headings.

That's all for now... --Singkong2005 talk 12:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC) context

Cormaggio
I'm Cormaggio (Cormac Lawler in real life) - you can call me Cormac. Actively involved in Wikiversity - and will be trying to work on building a learning/research community on wikis in general and specific projects/initiatives within Wikimedia. I still don't understand this project (Communitas) and why we're working on it in various different places (see m:Talk:Communitas), but will try to lend a hand as it develops. Cormaggio @ 16:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Editorial staff advisor
Nomination: Quinobi@Communitas

Accept/decline

JWSurf
I have no clear memory of when I first became aware of Wikipedia....it may have been sometime in 2001. I started using Wikipedia as a source of online information and many months went by before I realized what the "edit" button was for. Of course, in the early days of Wikipedia the "edit button" was not really a button, it was just a hypertext link that blended in with all the others. Rule #1 for wiki communities: let the world know that participants are welcome. One of my favorite Wikipedia pages is Introduction. Every day new visitors stumble into that page, make their first edit and become aware of the power of wiki. It is fun to watch the reaction of those new wiki editors who suddenly realize that they just became part of a revolution.

Of course, not every new Wikipedia editor has anything to say and many people do not have "spare time" to learn wiki markup and start editing wikis. In an age when most people cannot even be bothered to read a book or register to vote, I have to wonder what percentage of people who are alive today will ever make use of wiki technology and what percentage will ever become serious wiki editors. However, when I tire of dreaming about a future where everyone in the world knows about and has access to wiki technology, I wonder what would have happened to me if wikis had existed when I was young. Starting at a very young age I have long been like a moth drawn to the flame of computer technology. I have suffered through three decades of wishing that the computer revolution would hurry up already! What would have happened to me if I had access to the computer technology of 2006 when I was 12 years old? I'm not sure that would have been a good thing for someone like me. Without access to computers, without the distraction of video games, I had to live in the real world and do strange things like go to the library and read books. We really need to get our act together and make the internet not suck....a whole new generation of minds needs to be able to get real educational benefits from the internet. Rule #2 for wiki communities: make sure that the internet contains an exciting learning environment that while dealing with the real world can compete head-to-head against the fantasy worlds of video games. A big part of my long-standing desire that the computer revolution hurry up already! has centered on dreams of great virtual communities that could be constructed using computer technology. I want a virtual reality where I can do things like visit Charles Darwin at Down House and ask "him" what he did in the weeks after he learned that Wallace had discovered a specific type of natural selection. Of course, we will never really know such things, but I'd be satisfied to be able to explore the matter by reading the documents that survive from that time and it would be fun to discuss such things with others who share an interest in them. So here we are, taking the first steps towards turning such dreams into reality. We have to figure out how to grow wiki communities that efficiently make use of wiki technology to make our vast cultural memory easily accessible online. We have to go beyond easy access and make our online virtual communities so exciting that they can compete against things like World of Warcraft. Rule #3 for wiki communities: think big and do not use this mind-blowing wiki technology to make anything that is not "insanely great".....or even better.--JWSchmidt 04:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Editorial staff lead
Accept/decline

Portal
RTFM | WTFM | BTFM

Portal:Community is maintained at WikiProject Community/Portal which serves as both a queue and an archive. Please see that page and its Talk page for discussing what is to go in the Portal.

Learning objects
This is a meta-project: part of a long-range plan to help with and contribute to the development of Wikipedia Learning objects and the standardization of Learning object metadata. This is all very new to us, but we are learning as we go. The following sections contain design considerations and suggested use cases.

Two pages at Meta will contain our finished "products":
 * List of learning objects
 * Learning object metadata

Our sample Learning object is a Learning object for learning about Learning objects. Can you handle that?

Learning object metadata
See Learning object metadata.

channel
channel:
 * 1) #wikipedia
 * 2) #wikipedia-bootcamp
 * 3) #mediawiki
 * 4) #wikiproject
 * 5) #wikimania

project
A Learning object has: and all of the other psycho-babblish qualities of jargonized entanglement, typical of software products.
 * attributes:
 * 1) novelty
 * 2) value
 * 3) appeal
 * 4) quality
 * 5) relevance
 * properties
 * 1) topic
 * 2) approach

gate
Portal:Community
 * community:x=1..13

A portal gate is a link to a subpage of a Portal.

On the prototype are: These are the choices.
 * 1) Comutational Sociology 101 User:CQ/Context of community (curriculum vitae
 * 2) Beauty WikiProject Community/Portal
 * 3) demo -> interaction diagram use case model
 * 4) Understanding WikiProject Keywords Morphology
 * 5) Yoda User:Tractor automaton
 * 6) context: componant relationship state machine metamodel
 * 7) change+ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Community || Communitas
 * 8) agent WP:CBTF List of community topics
 * 9) faith * belief system community studies spirituality studies
 * 10) Unified Modeling Language: object, object model, metamodel, meta object facility
 * 11) Victor Turner WikiProject Sociology: role, liminality, ...
 * 12) User:CQ author
 * Image:Community.gif Template:Community

change agent
default: mature

Fasttrack to sources
Continued from: m:Talk:Communitas...

Fasttrack to sources: List of community topics &mdash; overdrive: off
 * Fasttrack to sources: List of learning objects &mdash; overdrive: on

Grading automaton
RTFM | WTFM | BTFM

Comutational Sociology 101 - Wikiversity
RTFM | WTFM | BTFM

Group Dynamics
Virtual community group dynamics

Automation
See User:Tractor for some ideas.

Computer Science 101 - Wikiversity
RTFM | WTFM | BTFM | WikiProject Computer science | scope |

Sociology ??? - Wikiversity
RTFM | WTFM | BTFM | WikiProject Sociology | scope | 17:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC) |

current scope

Wikiproject group|socio:scope:range:participants:articles:class:x