Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers

Infoboxes
I notice a great many composers now have infoboxes. I think this is a good thing as long as the composer infobox is used: . This avoids the situation in Schostakovich where the box became too big. Have the composer's group now accepted the need for a simple infobox with consensus on the talk page? I have proposed infoboxes for Kenneth Leighton and Sofia Gubaidulina and may propose more as I find them missing. Please comment on the talk pages. I'll let you know as I propose them and will keep you updated. — Iadmc  ♫ talk  09:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * One important composer where an infobox is being proposed is Haydn... Perhaps that debate should be resolved first? — Iadmc  ♫ talk  09:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I have also suggested we have a debate at Mahler — Iadmc  ♫ talk  20:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've added infoboxes to Kenneth Leighton and Sofia Gubaidulina per WP:BRD — Iadmc  ♫ talk  00:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello-o-o-o-o
Am I talking to an empty room? It is a shame if the group is dead. — Iadmc  ♫ talk  07:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * An non-member's observation: You wrote above ....Haydn. Perhaps that debate should be resolved first? - 4 June (sorry, late sig) - Davidships (talk) 10:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello anonymous! We can multitask here at Wikipedia! Seriously, though, this infobox thing is a minefield. Would you like to help?— Iadmc  ♫ talk  14:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Iadmc, I don't know what you expect people to do. Some of the articles you're proposing IBs be added to are in an abysmal state. Time would be much better spent adding content to them. In some ways, IB are purely decorative, and don't actually improve the article's content.
 * In any case (since you will just ignore the above), WikiProject Classical music is typically more active.  Aza24  (talk)   03:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Aza24: I intend to work on the articles Kenneth Leighton and Sofia Gubaidulina. The boxes are just a preliminary step. I don't really expect people to do anything but constructive comments are always helpful! Surprisingly, Haydn needs some work, too; surprisingly, considering the quality of the editors in the old Haydn and Mozart taskforce. I'm not all just about infoboxes, it's just that I think they are going to be placed in all person articles eventually: might as well get it "right" now with a box people can accept. Finally, this project used to be buzzing. It's a shame to see it die. I'll pop over to WP:CM and see what is happening there. Thanks for the comments — Iadmc  ♫ talk  04:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, welcome back to the site! The Haydn and Mozart task force is long gone, and our standards for composer articles have increased immensely. Thus, some major composers such as Haydn, Mozart, Vivaldi, Puccini, Bartok and to some extent Beethoven have very poor articles, in comparison to the FA/GAs we now have.
 * You'll be happy to hear that WP:CM is fairly active, but I wouldn't think of the Composers project as dead by any means. Most people at CM are working on composer articles, that's just where they happen to meet now. I don't know when you were last particularly active, but WikiProjects have heavily decreased in importance. Only a handful—Military, video games, hurricanes, paleontology, come to mind—are especially active.  Aza24  (talk)   04:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! As long as collaboration is still key, projects are not really important except as places to make announcements. They became talking/bashing shops really with acrimonious arguments flying round. Good riddence! Also, they were cliques where an opinion was pushed on people: e.g. "infoboxes are evil". Perhaps WP has matured somewhat since then; I hope so! Anyway, I look forward to working with you — Iadmc  ♫ talk  05:16, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the infoboxes debate is still going on—see for example this recent RfC. &#126;~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, that debate will never die. Some are completely enamoured of them, others despise them with a passion. I only include them where there is consensus—or else no opposition—and an image with some useful info in the caption. I do use WP:BRD to add them where it seems unlikely there will be no opposition; otherwise, I ask. — Iadmc  ♫ talk  13:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @AirshipJungleman29 hello, btw! — Iadmc  ♫ talk  13:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Could someone help out with the Brahms page?
Even after I fixed many of the phrases and made them less argumentative, there's more that needs to be rephrased (especially under the Reception section), as well as citations (especially in the introduction and Music section). I can't do all this by myself, so could somebody lend out a helping hand? Thanks. Wikieditor662 (talk) 01:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Request for Feedback on Draft:Shuying Li
Hello! I have been working on a draft article for composer Shuying Li and would greatly appreciate any feedback or contributions from fellow editors. Here is the link to the draft: [Draft:Shuying Li](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shuying_Li). Thank you in advance for your help! LuminousPathGlimmer (talk) 19:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)