Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Czech Republic/Archive 2

New naming convention
A new naming convention for places in Slovakia is being discussed at User_talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian_experiment. Your input will be greatly appreciated. Since these new rules might be later regarded as a precedent by non-involved editors (remember the Danzig/Gdansk case?), I think you will find this ongoing discussion and poll interesting. Tankred (talk) 03:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

anoher barnstar
I have created this barnstar, would anyone mind to create a template -- Cra del  15:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Organization
Any of you guys think it would be a good idea to make our own system of evaluation here like some other projects? I think we should establish our own peer review and B-class review. I think this would help the organization of Czech related articles. It wouldn't be too much work, just make a section on this page for peer review and we'd give editors feedback, then we'd find B-class Czech articles and make an evaluation system similar to FA (albeit on a much smaller scale), there aren't many of them. Anybdy think this is a good idea? The DominatorTalkEdits 04:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I recall, that many projects have quite similar rules (i.e. copy and paste) :), maybe we should do that as well. - Darwinek (talk) 09:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it and possibly establish something. Though right now I have the flu and the only thing that got me to check my watchlist was Wikipediholism :) I'll make something when I get better. The DominatorTalkEdits 20:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Get well, buddy! ;) - Darwinek (talk) 13:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

So all we'd need to do is search through Category:B-Class Czech Republic articles, there aren't many of them and I think that we can discount the ones not directly related to the Czech Republic. I'll create WikiProject Czech Republic/B-class review, but I want to know if there's going to be activity, there's no point in creating it if nobody pays attention to it, I don't feel like searching through other projects and just copying it, so I'll create it manually. The DominatorTalkEdits 04:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've established it, tell me if it's good enough to include in the project space, I hope it'll help to better organize our good articles. The DominatorTalkEdits 04:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Bartoloměj Paprocký
Ahoj.

I would like to ask someone who speak Czech language to translate two titles of Bartosz Paprocki books in his wiki-page. Thanks in advance. Mikołajski (talk) 19:02, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Karkonosze naming issue
 See my proposal. --Molobo (talk) 15:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Archive 2
We need a second archive for this page, but I'm not sure how to do it so the bot automatically archives to it. <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 17:30, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Done ;). - Darwinek (talk) 18:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community
Hello folks,

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 * This seems a lot like spam to me, what does this have to do with our project? <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 04:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested
Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Kingdom of Bohemia
I recently found the article Kingdom of Bohemia. Much of the historical information at Bohemia could be moved to KoB; the B article would provide an overview of the region and its history, while KoB would provide detailed coverage. History of Bohemia could also be merged into KoB, as could possibly History of the Czech lands. Olessi (talk) 02:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notice. Which way would you propose? - Darwinek (talk) 08:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

The bulk of "Bohemia" is its history section, most of which can be moved instead to "Kingdom of Bohemia". "Bohemia" would then have a summary of the region's history (including post-1918) and could also include information about modern Bohemia (regions, culture, etc.). The historical kingdom is certainly notable enough to warrant a separate article, but I'm not yet sure how best to differentiate its content from information at Template:History of the Czech Republic. Olessi (talk) 23:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It makes sense. Go for it! - Darwinek (talk) 08:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for help at Articles for deletion
There is currently a deletion discussion going on for a topic which is claimed to be an obscene symbol in the Czech Republic and Slovakia. The discussion can be found at Articles for deletion/P%C3%AD%C4%8Da (2nd nomination). (Sorry if this offends anyone -- I don't speak Czech and the obscenity doesn't carry through to English-speakers.) I note that the Czech Wikipedia has an article about this topic, but it is very difficult to find reliable sources about it in English. Could anyone confirm whether or not the article in question is true, and if possible, identify any possible reliable sources? Thanks. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely true, not sure if notable on an international level. <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 02:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

New maps
I made a couple new maps of Czechoslovakia. They're quite easy to change, so please let me know if you have any suggestions. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 16:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, nice work. - Darwinek (talk) 17:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

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Barnstar Images 2
As I came here to grab a barnstar for someone, I again noticed how hideous the image for our highest order is, and I thought I would resurrect the debate over that image. Last time we had this debate I created this image as a replacement, which is basically a cleaner version of the existing one but one which didn't gain consensus last time, so this time I thought I would try something completely different and created this one. Have a peek and tell me what you think, and whether I should improve it (and in what way), or grab the psd's (linked to from the files) and have a shot yourself. +Hexagon1 (t) 03:19, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice one, modern look but where are Moravian and Silesian eagles? :) I would prefer this one even more simple, without the Bohemian lion, only the tricolore in the circle but then a shorter ribbon. It should look more compact. - Darwinek (talk) 10:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Like this? I also made a ribbon to go along with it. +Hexagon1 (t) 01:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just like this. Great job, Hexagon! :) - Darwinek (talk) 21:00, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Portal
Can I get any hints on how to manage the Czech portal?--Kozuch (talk) 10:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

GA Sweeps Review Zaolzie
Zaolzie, an article tagged by this project, has been placed on hold following its GA Sweeps Review, pending a few relatively minor issues being cleared up. The review can be found here. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Pilsen move request
Hello all Project members. There is a move request at Talk:Pilsen. Feel free to comment and vote. - Darwinek (talk) 11:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Czech roads
Hello. See this CFD discussion. The issue is how to translate the silnice a dálnice to the English language to have a properly named category here. - Darwinek (talk) 10:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

68 Publishers
Could someone please rate the importance of 68 Publishers? I do not know how important this publisher is to Czech culture. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 03:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Czech Republic
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FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009
Event though competition will not take until February 18, 2009, I am asking for assistance to any member of WP Czech Republic in regards to images related to the upcoming nordic skiing world championships in Liberec (cross country skiing, nordic combined, and ski jumping). What is requested is images of the opening ceremonies, event competitions, medal ceremonies, and closing cermonies. Any fans of these sports who live in the Czech Republic, please take pictures that can be downloaded for Wikipedia. If anyone is interested in this, please reply on my user page. Thanking any interested user in advacne. Chris (talk) 15:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Cats
Hi! I have a question about the categories of the following artistic gymnasts. Do you think they had to be categorized only as ? Or do you think they had to be categorized as and also as ?

Josef Bochníček, Ladislav Bubeníček, Josef Čada, Stanislav lndruch, Miroslav Klinger, Josef Malý, Zdeněk Opočenský, Josef Pagáč, František Pecháček, Robert Pražák, Václav Stolař, Svatopluk Svoboda, Ladislav Vácha, František Vaněček, Václav Wirt

Many thanks in advance and kind regards Doma-w (talk) 20:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * In an unfortunate twist of timing, I was aking the exact same question at WT:CATP as Doma-w was asking this here. -- ratarsed (talk) 20:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think they should be categorized by both categories. Same way as we use e.g. Soviet and Russian, Ukrainian etc. categories at the same time. - Darwinek (talk) 13:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * That seems to contradict the policy of how flags should be used in infoboxes, and I think that categorisation should be done in the same spirit (see also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories); after all, it seems wrong to categorise people against a country that was never a country in their lifetime. WP:MOSFLAG goes on to say that flags should not be used to indicate birth or death places, as this may imply an incorrect citizenship or nationality; and should only be used if their is a strong affiliation, such as to show the representative nationality of players. -- ratarsed (talk) 11:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Dračí doupě
Not strictly Czech Republic related, but there's a request on the AfD to ask Czech or Slovak speakers about it, and I recall there being at least one Czech speaker here. Thanks! TravellingCari 11:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Help request: 163 Czech Republic-related articles needing geographical coordinates
Based on a search of Wikipedia's articles related to Czech Republic, I've found some articles that I believe are about places in Czech Republic, and could usefully have geographical coordinates added.

The articles in question are listed in Category:Czech Republic articles missing geocoordinate data. At the time of writing, some examples included:
 * 1) Bílina River
 * 2) Cidlina River
 * 3) Jihlava District
 * 4) Komorní scéna Aréna
 * 5) Lipany (Vitice)
 * 6) Olomouc District
 * 7) Prague Metronome

...and there are many more, as well. At the time of posting this notice, there were 163 articles in this category needing geographical coordinates.

Why add coordinates?
By adding coordinates, a Wikipedia reader can easily view the location on a street map, nautical chart, topographic map, by satellite photo, realtime weather map, and in many other ways. Coordinate data makes an article eventually appear in various services such as Google Maps' Wikipedia overlay, Google Earth, and Wikipedia's own internal map service. Coordinate data also helps readers looking for geographically-based data, such as locations near a reference point, or related information.

How can I do it?
The articles are all marked with coord missing tags, which need to be replaced with coord tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox. You can find out how to do this at the Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Please let me know if this is useful, or if you have any questions! -- The Anome (talk) 11:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Týnská 13
I've found the new article Týnská 13, the content is copy-pasted from here. I have also other reservations, particularly I'm not sure about the notability of this house. Any suggestions? --Vejvančický (talk) 16:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Agree, really not notable, nominate it for deletion. Reported as copyvio --Yopie 21:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Evropská demokratická strana
I can't find any relevant informations about EDS. The external link in the article is dead. Jana Hybášková on her official webpage only intends to found a new political party, and I didn't found any informations on Google. The article on Czech wikipedia is translation of this article, without additional facts. I didn't noticed anything in Czech media. --Vejvančický (talk) 12:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Fair use images
Could someone please fill in the rationales for File:Ct24.png and File:Ct4.png? I have no idea what to type and I am sick to death of this copyright-phobia. +Hexagon1 (t) 03:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Markéta Luskačová
Unfortunately I cannot read Czech; am I correct in guessing that this page lists the books in the library of Muzeum umění Olomouc that discuss or show works by the photographer Markéta Luskačová? -- Hoary (talk) 23:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 08:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * I've added the subscription to the Project's main page. It looks like a good idea. --Vejvančický (talk) 13:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Expulsion of Germans from Czechoslovakia
Is the text "Die Vertreibung der deutschen Bevölkerung aus der Tschechoslowakei Band 1" a reliable source?Xx236 (talk) 08:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It seems to be reliable. At least the publisher - Deutscher Taschenbuch Verlag - is well-established German publishing house specialising on history, philosophy, sociology, politology and culture. However, I'm not familiar with that book. --Vejvančický (talk) 13:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of the authors were active Nazis till 1945. The paper quotes Ingo Haar's text. The original editor was German government. Xx236 (talk) 15:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for soundbite
There's been a suggestion at Talk:Strč prst skrz krk that a native Czech speaker should record another soundbite of this tongue twister, because the current one isn't convincing enough. - file lake  shoe  12:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * My version is here: [[File:Prst a krk.ogg]]. (The quality isn't perfect, but it's in Czech, apart from previous version...) --Vejvančický (talk) 13:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it is good enough. Thanks. :) - Darwinek (talk) 13:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Have updated the article with it, cheers! - file lake  shoe  15:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for help rewriting Sedlec-Prčice
Hello. A questioner on the Humanities Reference Desk#Sedlec-Pr.C4.8Dice has just pointed out there are questions about the material in Sedlec-Prčice, which is unsourced and unencyclopaedic. Would anyone here have time to spare to help improve it? If anyone could translate some material from the town website from Czech to English, I'd be happy to help do a rewrite. Thanks, WikiJedits (talk) 13:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I made a little cleanup, deleted some unencyclopedic material. - Darwinek (talk) 15:12, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I added citations from relevant Czech source. --Vejvančický (talk) 15:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks to both of you; it looks better for sure. If anyone wants to go further, just noticed there is also a version on the Czech wikipedia. Thanks again, WikiJedits (talk) 16:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Masaryk University Press
Hi, There is discussion going on at Talk:Greek love about a book published by the above press. It is being suggested that it might not have the same standards as university presses in the English-speaking world and that the book by an academic at the associated university is effectively self-published. Is anyone here able to comment on this? Thanks.--Peter cohen (talk) 21:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Generally, Masaryk University is State university, second oldest in the Czech rep. and the MU Press is notable book publisher. AFAIK every published book must be in accordance with standard strict requirements, as peer review, academic degree of author etc. Of course print of every book is paid by the University and authors are normally paid (but not so much ,-).For further information see http://www.muni.cz/press/general --Yopie 22:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. This is what I expected.--Peter cohen (talk) 23:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Městys
I've started a stub on městys, based on the corresponding article in cs.wp. Since my knowledge of the subject and understanding of Czech leave a lot to be desired, would anyone like to correct/expand this article? Thanks,--Kotniski (talk) 13:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Have expanded the article a little using cs.wp. Hope that helps! Knepflerle (talk) 11:24, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Bot creating municipality articles
Just to let people know, I'm planning to run a bot to create the remaining municipality articles (obce, mestyse, mesta), as has previously been done by hand by Dr Blofeld and others. The approval request page is here. Examples of how the finished articles will look like are at Čelčice and many others in its district.--Kotniski (talk) 09:34, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Is there a way to have the bot automatically add the Wikiproject tag to the talk page of the articles it creates? <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 17:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Bot now running (see Special:Contributions/Kotbot). I could theoretically add the talk page tags, but I believe there are existing bots that do that, based on categories (at least, that's what I observed with the Polish location articles).--Kotniski (talk) 08:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject TRANSWIKI
You are all invited to join WikiProject TRANSWIKI and join the Czech language transwiki project. The aim is to draw up a full directory of missing articles from Czech wikipedia and build a team of translators to work at bridging the gaps in knowledge and to improve existing articles by translation. We need your help, so if there are any Czech speakers here please join up as your language skills are crucial. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 09:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

An interesting AfD
For your information: Articles for deletion/Michal David. We need more eyes there. --Vejvančický (talk) 22:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

The first Czech actors
I am very interested in theatre history. The net gives 1783 as the date for the first professional Czech theatre. Who were the first Czech actor and actress there? I would be grateful if you could reply to me in my talk page. Regards--Aciram (talk) 14:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Replied on Aciram's talk page. --Vejvančický (talk) 15:54, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

First Republic ethnic political parties
Hello fellow colleagues. I have created, focused on parties of ethnic minorities of the First Republic. Slovaks are not included, as they were considered a principal unit of the Republic, not a minority. Several articles are still missing, e.g. about Jewish parties. Feel free to bring some ideas about the template. - Darwinek (talk) 19:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Sportsperson of the Year (Czechoslovakia)
Hello, I would like to nominate the article Sportsperson of the Year (Czechoslovakia) for a Featured list. Before doing so, I listed it for a peer review and would like to invite everybody to express their opinions. Thank you very much. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 22:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Radim Uzel
This was machine translated from the Czech article, can anyone fix this up?


 * I'll look at it. Btw, here is another interesting and notable article: Spartakiad (Czechoslovakia). Machine translation again? The author of both articles is . --Vejvančický (talk) 08:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Sportsperson of the Year (Czechoslovakia) for a Featured List
The article Sportsperson of the Year (Czechoslovakia) has been nominated for a Featured List and I would like to invite everybody interested to make comments at the nomination page. Thanks. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 18:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Josef Bryks
Hello, I need a your help improving Josef Bryks article for 17 November Template talk:Did you know. I will try to translate the rest of the article from Czech wikipedia. Thank you. --Snek01 (talk) 21:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello. There is a problem with the Czech Wikipedia article: it does not have many references. Therefore it is quite probable that such a translation would not succeed at the DYK nomination. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 22:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The reference is necessary for a fact of the DYK only. Other references should not be the problem: I/we will find references for all other facts. --Snek01 (talk) 22:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about helping you with this and so I had a look at the Czech Wikipedia article once more. I must say that it seems to be quite bad. It is not neutrally written and also contains some questionable statements. Most statements lack sources and therefore are not possible to verify and I am quite reluctant to write about something, which I am not sure whether it is true or not. If you have the sources, maybe you could start with adding them to the Czech article. However, the article needs quite a lot of work and I am not sure, whether I will be able to do it in such a short time. But if you provide the sources, I will try. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 22:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Few unreferenced details were removed. References were added. I think, that there are only referenced facts now. --Snek01 (talk) 01:18, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Article is ready Template talk:Did you know. Help to DYK arctiles reviewers to verify DYK criteria, please. --Snek01 (talk) 13:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Ashtar Galactic Command in danger
For your information: Articles for deletion/Universe People. --Vejvančický (talk) 13:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that the only way how to save the article is to add some information from a serious, non-trivial source. If I have time I will try to add something from this text, but I am not sure if it is enough. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 15:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I already added several links to independent and reliable sources, see the relevant discussion. Your suggestion is helpful, thank you. The article is in a very bad shape, I agree, but this is not a reason for deletion, in my opinion. --Vejvančický (talk) 15:58, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Information and ref added. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 22:32, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

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Requested move for Krkonoše
Hello. Karkonosze (Krkonoše) article is nominated again for a move. Discuss at Talk:Karkonosze. - Darwinek (talk) 13:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh. My. God. This again? <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 18:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately yes. Again. - Darwinek (talk) 18:34, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

New section on project's main page: Articles needing cleanup
Hello Czech WikiProject. Currently, you can join the discussion at Rfc regarding biographies of living people. There is a possibility of prodding/speedy deleting of all unreferenced biographies of living persons, counting more than 40,000 articles. I added an useful cleanup listing subscription to the project's main page; this tool could help us find unreferenced BLP's related to the Czech Republic and check the process more carefully. A cleanup listing for our project should be generated shortly by WolterBot. For further information see relevant links. If you have any objections or suggestions, please direct your comments here. Thank you. --Vejvančický (talk) 13:54, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Giant mountains? Karkonosze? Krkonoše? Riesengebirge?
You are invited to participate in a poll. Skäpperöd (talk) 11:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced Czech related BLPs
Here is a list of all unreferenced BLPs in the Category:Czech people stubs, created with the help of this tool. Anyone interested is invited to help with cleanup. You can also generate similar lists for all categories.

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 * 1) Petr Kostka -
 * 2) Pavla Brantalova -
 * 3) Markéta Jánská -
 * 4) Oldřich Pelčák -
 * 5) Miroslav Verner -
 * 6) Karla Erbová -
 * 7) Karel Kaplan -
 * 8) Janis Sidovský -
 * 9) Jiří Gruša -
 * 10) Libuše Šafránková -
 * 11) Veronika Žilková -
 * 12) Jan Hartl -
 * 13) Libuše Moníková -
 * 14) Ela Lehotska -
 * 15) Jana Vápeníková -
 * 16) Michal Šlesingr -
 * 17) Jan Hajič -
 * 18) Monika MacDonagh-Pajerová -
 * 19) Milan Nakonečný -
 * 20) Leona Kvasnicová -
 * 21) Ervín Černý -
 * 22) Petr Kolář -
 * 23) Martin Pecina -
 * 24) Martin Barták -
 * 25) Ladislav Miko -
 * 26) Rostislav Vondruška -
 * 27) Jakub Šebesta -
 * 28) Petr Rajnoha -
 * 29) Michaela Dolinová -
 * 30) Lukáš Hejlík -
 * 31) Klára Sedláčková -
 * 32) Lucie Štěpánková -
 * 33) Lada Jelínková -
 * 34) Helena Dvořáková -
 * 35) Michal Jagelka -
 * 36) Zuzana Šulajová -
 * 37) Stanislava Jachnická -
 * 38) Rosita Erbanová -
 * 39) Kamila Špráchalová -
 * 40) Ľuboš Kostelný -
 * 41) Pavla Ptáčková -
 * 42) Vendula Ježková -
 * 43) Lukáš Hejlík -
 * 44) Antonín Procházka (actor) -
 * 45) Roman Zach -
 * 46) Tomáš Matonoha -
 * 47) Lukáš Jůza -
 * 48) Zdeňka Vávrová -
 * 49) Zdeněk Moravec -
 * 50) Jaroslav Rudiš -
 * 51) Ivan Klíma -
 * 52) Jan Stráský -
 * 53) Karel Urbánek -
 * 54) Pavla Brantalova -
 * 55) Věra Flasarová -
 * 56) Jaromír Kohlíček -
 * 57) Jiří Maštálka -
 * 58) Miloslav Ransdorf -
 * 59) Daniel Strož -
 * 60) František Bublan -
 * 61) Ivan Martin Jirous -
 * 62) Lucie Zelenková -
 * 63) Markéta Jánská -
 * 64) Otakar Janecký -
 * 65) Petr Hrbek -
 * 66) Drahomír Kadlec -
 * 67) Kamil Kašťák -
 * 68) Petr Rosol -
 * 69) Peter Veselovský -
 * 70) Richard Žemlička -
 * 71) František Pitra -
 * 72) Libor Capalini -
 * 73) Michal Grošek -
 * 74) Milan Uhde -
 * 75) Miloš Urban -
 * 76) Václav Meidl -
 * 77) Marek Kvapil -
 * 78) Regina Rajchrtová -
 * 79) František Kaberle, Sr. -
 * 80) Dušan Salfický -
 * 81) Marta Kubišová -
 * 82) Jan Kasl -
 * 83) Laura Angel -
 * 84) Vlastimil Černý -
 * 85) Běla Kolářová -
 * 86) Jiří Šejba -
 * 87) Horst Siegl -
 * 88) Radek Drulák -
 * 89) Přemysl Bičovský -
 * 90) Martin Frýdek -
 * 91) Karel Rada -
 * 92) Petr Vlček -
 * 93) Luboš Kozel -
 * 94) Květoslav Svoboda -
 * 95) Milan Kerbr -
 * 96) Pavel Novotný (footballer) -
 * 97) Milada Karbanová -
 * 98) Ladislav Šmíd -
 * 99) Jakub Čutta -
 * 100) Jiří Stivín -
 * 101) Helena Vondráčková -
 * 102) Eva Šuranová -
 * 103) Miloslava Rezková -
 * 104) Jan Kopecký -
 * 105) Maurice Whitfield -
 * 106) Jarda Simr -
 * 107) Václav Vokolek -
 * 108) Martin Lojek -
 * 109) Olga Charvátová -
 * 110) Pavel Patera -
 * 111) Galina Miklínová -
 * 112) Pavel Řehák -
 * 113) Marian Palát -
 * 114) Pavel Černý -
 * 115) Karolína Pilařová -
 * 116) Leona Kvasnicová -
 * 117) Ivan Wilhelm -
 * 118) Štěpán Kučera -
 * 119) Petr Janečka -
 * 120) Jana Pechanová -
 * 121) Miloslav Kousal -
 * 122) Aleš Řebíček -
 * 123) Věra Barandovská-Frank -
 * 124) Lukáš Hlava -
 * 125) Ladislav Škorpil -
 * 126) Vladimír Dlouhý -

Happy editing. --Vejvančický (talk) 15:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Robert Nebřenský
It's difficult for me (as a non-Czech-speaking editor) to tell whether the article is adequately referenced, or whether the red-linked music groups he was in are sufficiently notable to meet WP:MUSIC, Can anyone assist? I don't want the article deleted if he is notable per WIkipedia standards, but I do want it deleted if he is not notable. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Czech online sources for your consideration :
 * Vltava - Czech Radio, iReport, iDnes, Czech Television, Novinky.cz, iHNed.
 * Sklep - Finále, iDnes, Týden.

Published books about Sklep:
 * Andelová, Lenka (1999). Sklep : 1971-1999. Prague, Pražská scéna. ISBN 80-86102-00-9.
 * Schmidt, Otakáro (1993) Tajů plný ostrov : Divadlo Sklep. Olomouc : David Hrbek ; Boskovice : Formát. ISBN 80-901260-5-7

Notable members of the theatre Sklep (sources included):
 * Tomáš Hanák - actor, television host. Třináctá komnata (Czech television), Centrum.cz, an interview with Václav Moravec, iDnes etc.
 * Václav Marhoul - film director, screenwriter, actor, producer. Czech Radio,, Novinky.cz, Hospodářské noviny, Czech Press Agency etc.
 * David Vávra - architect, actor, writer. Czech Press Agency, iDnes, Mladá Fronta (Sedmička), Super.cz, Strana zelených etc.
 * Milan Šteindler - actor, film director. Týden.cz, Lidové noviny, Czech Press Agency, Týden etc.
 * Otakáro Schmidt - film director, actor, screenwriter. Czech Television, Novinky.cz, Czech Radio, iDnes, TV Noe etc.
 * Tomáš Vorel - film director. iDnes, Novinky.cz, International Film Festival Karlovy Vary, Lidové noviny etc.
 * Aleš Najbrt - designer. Czech Radio, Design Portal, Czech Television, TV Nova etc.
 * Jiří Macháček actor, singer - there is no need to introduce him here.
 * Ondřej Trojan

The theatre Sklep represents an important part of the Czech culture in last decades of the 20th century, many of its core members have became significant in various professions. In my opinion, each of listed red-linked subjects deserve a stand alone article. It would be a good contribution to the mapping of Czech culture here on English Wikipedia. Robert Nebřenský is just a first step. --Vejvančický (talk) 21:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

--Vejvančický (talk) 12:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

White Carpathians
I have a disagreement with the user Nmate on whether or not to keep the Hungarian name for the White Carpathians. which are located on the Czech - Slovak border http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:White_Carpathians. There isn't a Hungarian minority in the area where the White Carpathians are located. So I yhink the Hungarian name is not relevant.

PS I'm a beginner on wikipedia, so i'm sorry if posting this message here was not something good (Iaaasi (talk) 14:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC))

Jan Zika
For your information: Articles for deletion/Jan Zika. --Vejvančický (talk) 13:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles bot
Okip  01:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Naming question
Hello. Should 1. národní hokejová liga and 2. národní hokejová liga be renamed to the First National Hockey League and the Second National Hockey League respectively? Thanks. - Darwinek (talk) 17:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In this case, I suggest renaming to the English version. Hardly anyone will search for titles in the Czech language in this part of Wikipedia. --Vejvančický (talk) 14:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer. I will ask also at the WPP Ice Hockey. - Darwinek (talk) 15:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Klára Laurenčíková
Hello. I'm unsure whether this person is notable for Wikipedia. I'm asking here, because the Czech-language sources offer a more comprehensive coverage. Does she meet the notability requirements for politicians? Thanks for your hints in advance. --Vejvančický (talk) 10:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, she's just a high state administrative worker. There are hundreds of them in similar positions. I don't think she is notable enough. - Darwinek (talk) 21:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your opinion, Darwinek, and sorry for the delay. Laurenčíková is #6 of the Prague slate for the Czech legislative election in 2010. I'd wait for the result of the election and then reconsider the AfD nomination. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. Let's wait for the elections results, though it can be estimated that the Greens will probably not get any MPs. :) - Darwinek (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI: Articles for deletion/Klára Laurenčíková. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Česko Slovenská Superstar
Hello. Recently, I found several articles on participants of this competition, see Jan Bendig, Dominika Stará. Czech Wikipedia redirects the names of all of the members (except the winner Martin Chodúr) to the main article Česko Slovenská Superstar. In my opinion, it is the best possible solution at the moment, though the decision was questioned on cs:wiki. Both articles are examples of WP:BLP1E and above mentioned singers fails the inclusion requirements here on en:wiki. What do you think about it? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:52, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I absolutely agree with you. Redirects would be just fine. - Darwinek (talk) 13:31, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. We should wait a moment before making any decision, though this forum doesn't seem to attract many visitors. Thanks again, Darwinek, now I have to concentrate on today's Russian problem :)) --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:11, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, clear cut WP:BLP1E. Redirects are the best solution. <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 14:32, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, let's watch the match today. Hope to see a great battle. :) - Darwinek (talk) 14:34, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I redirected both articles in question to the page Česko Slovenská Superstar. I also nominated files File:Dominika.jpg and File:File-Dominew.jpg for deletion, as I don't believe that PD-old applies. If you have any concerns, feel free to express them here or at my talk page. Thank you. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:24, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

CFD nomination
You may be interested in voicing your opinion at current CFD nomination. The nominator attempts to rename all categories about cities, towns and villages into "populated places" categories. This also relates to the Czech Republic and Slovakia-related categories. Just for the reminder, we use already a proper categorization scheme, where města (cities and towns) and obce (villages) are clearly differentiated. Current CFD nomination attempts to put all of them into generic "populated places" categories, creating a total confusion. - Darwinek (talk) 11:19, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD
Is Panbrdian theory article really notable enough for WP? Should not we consider AfD listing? - Darwinek (talk) 20:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't make any sense of this article whatsoever. I can't make any sense of Czech Tramping either. When I read "amongst Czech Tramps" I understood that to mean Homelesáci. - file lake  shoe  20:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Listed. - file lake  shoe  20:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Czech Tramping movement was an important element of the Czech culture from the 1920s. In the 1930s, it was a real mass movement, affecting Czech film, literature, music etc. During the World War II, "Czech tramps" represented a part of the anti-nazi resistance (Western writer and tramp Bob Hurikán was sentenced to death for his anti-nazi activities). After the war, the movement was suppressed by the communist régime as a kind of revolt inspired by the American culture (Western, Country etc.). It was also considered as a remnant of the bourgeoisie culture of the Czechoslovak First Republic. The topic is definitely notable, even though the article here is written like an essay. Czech tramping is an interesting part of the Czech culture and society for many decades. Please, do not confuse with Homelesáci.--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

AfD
See Articles for deletion/Petra Skálová. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 07:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Panelák
Talk:Czech_panel_apartment_building - naming dispute, panelák vs. Czech panel apartment building. Your opinions are welcome here... - file lake  shoe  12:56, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Czech cabinets
Should we delete Czech Cabinet and just use templates for particular cabinets, like Fischer Cabinet? What do you think? Thanks. - Darwinek (talk) 13:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Assistance needed for Eastern Europe
The Eastern Europe article is fraught with errors, mislabels and slanted facts as if much of it was written by ultraconservatives during the Cold War from an ethnocentric position. If you agree with that the Czech Republic is a Central European state rather than a Soviet satellite, please assist in rewording/correcting the article lead and body. Gregorik (talk) 06:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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need help on disambiguation re particular individual's b.p.
This line is from the article on Frank Richter, Sr.: "he was born in Friedland, Bohemia, then part of Austria-Hungary, Richter was the son of a textile manufacturer." There are three Czech towns in the Friedland disambiguation page; I'm guessing it may be the first one as the other two are clearly Moravia, but also does that "textile manufacturer" help out as a clue? i.e. a town with a textile industry?Skookum1 (talk) 16:06, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually it is hard to guess from the "textile manufacturer" issue. Anyways, as you correctly pointed out, the only one in Bohemia is Frýdlant v Čechách. I would lean towards this option. - Darwinek (talk) 16:55, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Ashtar in danger (again)
Hello. For your information:. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing
I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 19:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

National Football Team
This article doesn't have a template showing it is followed by the WikiProject, should it have one? // Fi  nns  16:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. - Darwinek (talk) 23:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots)
Requested move. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Moravané
Currently discussed for deletion. Czech-speaking editors would be welcome for finding sources that could establish notability. -- Cycl o pia talk  20:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

German exonyms for place names
The current list of German exonyms for the Czech Republic shows that the former Schneiderhof is now called Mysliv. I have a suspicion that this is incorrect, that Schneiderhof is no longer in existence, and that it's former site is, instead, very close to the present Vseruby u Kdyne (Vseruby). I would like to know the sources or citations of the supposed Schneiderhof/Mysliv connection and to verify their accuracy. William H. "Bill" Brown.Wilbro1 (talk) 20:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello. According do German Wikipedia, the village of Myslív (German: Schneiderhof) was a part of Všeruby u Kdyně, but in 1955 was abandoned. That was probably because of expulsion of Germans from Sudetenland after World War II. Many settlements were deserted because of that. - Darwinek (talk) 21:03, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello Darwinek: Thank you for responding. I have ancestors from Schneiderhof and I have come to understand that the old Schneiderhof was near Vseruby. Trying to locate their ancestral home (Schneiderhof) has been very difficult due to Schneiderhof being listed on the exonym page as the current Mysliv. This is misleading because there is a village named Mysliv further to the east in the Czech Republic and just south of Nepomuk. I was erroneously led to look there for my ancestral home. It seems to me that the exonym entry should be modified to reflect that the former Schneiderhof is not the current Mysliv but is, in fact, a deserted site near Vseruby (0.9 miles west northwest). This is my first time to try to discuss this with someone so I would like other opinions and maybe a suggestion about how to make the change if you agree that it should be done. Bill BrownWilbro1 (talk) 18:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, feel free to make the change. By the way, here is a link to the Czech website storing information about deserted villages in the Czech Republic. It says the population of this small village was ethnically German. Germans were expelled after WWII and the village was deserted. After 1945 it was briefly "re-settled" by Czechs, but they were forced to move as the village was located in the sensitive border area. In the early 1970s the area of the former village was cleared and the security border zone of the communist Czechoslovakia was located there. Today there are no buildings left there. - Darwinek (talk) 18:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Portal:Ore Mountains
I have recently created a portal for the Ore Mountains along with numerous articles. Quite a few are stubs which I am slowly working through. Feel free to contribute. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your effort. This topic area is much neglected here and would benefit from more attention. If you would need any help, feel free to let us know. - Darwinek (talk) 20:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Pan
May you write Pan (title) article ? (Idot (talk) 04:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC))

Marta Kubišová
Can someone help me take out the worst errors in a machine translations at Marta Kubišová, please? -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 15:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I've done all but one of them, which is the bold part of this sentence from the cs.wiki article:
 * O rok později opět vyhrála Zlatého slavíka, avšak cenu musela převzít v ústraní redakce časopisu Mladý svět kvůli začínající normalizaci.


 * I simply don't know what that means, but the current translation makes no sense.


 * Also while we're here can we please stop overtranslating every song name and band name in article text? (and preferably in real life too?) It's really annoying! The version of this I edited translated Chcete mě? as you show me? (without the Czech name) which is not only disastrous, but names are not supposed to translate in the 21st century! I know English historically is horrifically Slavophobic as a language, but there's really no need to replace every mention of Sto Zviřat (as in the Ska band) with "100 animals" or N.O.H.A. with "Foot" just because this is English Wikipedia, else we also move Kryštof Harant z Polžic a Bezdružic to Christopher the Bastard from Afterspoon and Withoutsatellites. Czech people don't walk around saying their favourite song is "Nespavost" by "Nevěřící". Just sayin'. - filelakeshoe (SAVE WIKIPEDIA) 17:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I would translate the sentence with the bold part as: "The next year she won again the Zlatý slavík award. However, she had to receive the award in secrecy of the office of the Mladý svět magazine, due to the commencing normalization." - Darwinek (talk) 17:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks - file lake  shoe  17:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Dekuju vam moc! -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 01:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Portal:Elbe Sandstone Mountains
I have created a portal for the Elbe Sandstone Mountains here. Please feel free to create articles for the red links or add others you are interested in, especially those that are Czech-related which are a little sparse. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

2011 Chilean Pen Theft
For your information: there's an WP:RFC open at this article, see Talk:2011_Chilean_Pen_Theft. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:03, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Ice hockey players - article names
Hello. I am letting you know, that one user created hundreds of stubs about mostly Czech and Slovak ice hockey players and rendered their names without diacritics. I moved some of them to diacriticized names but the user reverted my moves. He still opposes diacritics in "his" articles, although as you know, they are used throughout Wikipedia. Also the rest articles on ice hockey players have names with diacritics. Even the WikiProject Ice Hockey allows them to be used. For affected articles, see e.g. Martin Hlavacka, David Kveton, Adam Polasek and Frantisek Ptacek. - Darwinek (talk) 10:18, 20 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The names should be corrected, they are deformed as they are now. The current state of the above mentioned atricles lowers the accuracy of Wikipedia. That's my only conclusion. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:02, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I'd suggest a WP:RM. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:11, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the "owner" of these articles writes in an edit summary undo move to invoke Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle yet I don't see much discussion going on? Don't get me wrong, English used to mutilate Slavic names. I know when it comes to people notable in earlier centuries we have the option of using a Slavophobic equivalent which was used predominantly in English sources (e.g. Bronislava Nijinska), but that's because at that time that was the common way of doing things, especially since a lot of people had a variant of their name written in Cyrillic. Nowadays it really isn't, you leave diacritics where they are, especially in an encyclopedia. Either way you definitely don't just remove the diacritics without transcribing the name properly. Yes, I guess there is an argument that most English language sources will use the name without diacritics, but this is just down to laziness, and I think there's a point when you draw the line and say if a source can't spell someone's name right, it's not a reliable source. - file lake  shoe  09:57, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Please follow the requests for move at Talk:Frantisek Ptacek and Talk:Tibor Visnovsky. Thank you. - Darwinek (talk) 17:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Just so you're aware, reverted the move to František Ptáček once again despite us having reached a consensus to move... trying to discuss at Talk:František Ptáček again. -  file lake  shoe  01:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I have left a comment there. It is unacceptable to revert article moves after WP:RM. Please have a look at Talk:Vladimir Buril for another bunch of RM. Thank you. - Darwinek (talk) 14:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Alice Masaryková
Is she notable? This article has been tagged for over 3 years. The article on cs.wiki seems to have some offline sources, but the en. article's lack of non-trivial information suggests she might be inheriting her notability from the president.. thoughts? - file lake  shoe  21:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, she is notable for this project. . I'll try to explain it in the article. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 22:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hello. While browsing I noticed this category: and began thinking about the category names of related subcategories, namely the use of adjective "Czechoslovakian". Do you think adjective "Czechoslovak", which is used in various categories throughout EN Wiki, would be more proper? Any thoughts? - Darwinek (talk) 08:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * My personal opinion on (Czecho)slovak/-ian is that it only exists because if you say "Slovakia" to an English person they automatically think "Slovakian" is the demonym because it sounds like it should be. Fundamentally it's as incorrect as calling Dutch people "Hollish", but because it's a common mistake it's made its way into the dictionary. I'm sure sources about (Czecho)slovakia, written by people who've been there and have knowledge would use "Slovak" and "Czechoslovak" more commonly than "Slovakian" and "Czechoslovakian". The former two do seem to be far more used on Wikipedia, sure - file lake  shoe  17:30, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * (I actually have "Slovakian" in my shoot-on-sight.) - file lake  shoe  17:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's always dangerous to base these things on personal opinion. The Oxford Dictionary allows "Slovakian", "Czechoslovakian" and "Czechoslovak" as both adjectives and nouns. "Slovak" is a native or national of Slovakia or a person of Slovak descent or the language. So none is incorrect and only "Slovak" has a more precise meaning. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The point is that we have sort of naming dualism here on Wikipedia. Categories related to Slovakia use almost exclusively the form "Slovak". Same with Czechoslovakia, only several categories and also articles about Czechoslovakia use the form "Czechoslovakian", instead of "Czechoslovak". - Darwinek (talk) 18:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hm, fair enough. Merriam-Webster disagrees and says "Slovak" can be an adjective and a noun. And this definitely reflects usage. I'd support using Slovak/Czechoslovak rather than the -ian forms. - file lake  shoe  21:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like it doesn't matter as long as we're consistent and explain somewhere that we've gone for "-vak(ian)" rather arbitrarily but for reasons of consistency. --Bermicourt (talk) 11:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Meetup
I'm a bit late in on this but there's a WikiMeet in Prague this evening. See cs:Wikipedie:Pod reálnou lípou - file lake  shoe  15:27, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Pig slaughter
For your information: Articles for deletion/Pig slaughter. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:59, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nominator is a sockpuppet, I wouldn't worry too much. - file lake  shoe  01:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It was closed as 'keep'. I noticed an interesting thing. The article in its current state mentions specifics of pig slaughtering in Canada, Croatia, Serbia, Czech Republic and Slovakia. Some people have expressed their concerns that the article is focused too much on Eastern European countries. None of the countries is a part of Eastern Europe. The area of today's Czech Republic was, for almost all its history, connected culturally with the Western world. In the second half of the 20th century my nation became a part of the mighty Soviet empire. The consequences were terrible: murdering, arresting, expelling of the intelligentsia, fear etc. However, the 40-year-lasting Soviet dominance has another consequence. My country is still perceived as a part of the Eastern world. I noticed the same thing at my RfA (... we need more Eastern European admins ... ) It is funny and sad at the same time. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 07:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, agreed - it is funny and sad, if it comes from the pen of contributors to Wikipedia (while everyone here can read so nicely balanced articles on the subject - Central Europe and Eastern Europe..) - and western public generally. But it is really annoying and quite terrifying from the mouth of Sergey Lavrov.
 * There really was actually such a situation, when he was explicitly asked in public - that he would not sort Czech Republic into the Eastern Europe (it was just in the ongoing debate over the missile defense shield stationed in CZ - note: and we are there the Eastern Europe again ). His response was immediate and stinging - that according to the UN classification, Czech Republic simply belongs to Eastern Europe - and that's it.
 * So it seems, that we have one more inheritance from that Soviet times: this stupid Europe division seems to be codified forever within the UN mummified structures..
 * Sorry for being offtopic
 * But maybe - to bring atention to the discussion about Eastern Europe definition is not that off topic after all --R e o + 09:47, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You guys expect too much :) My country is one of the most geographically ignorant in the world, and don't get me started on America. My family mostly think I live in Czechoslovakia. You would expect editors of an encyclopedia to know better, but sadly, the amount of xenophobia and geographic ignorance on en.wikipedia is quite shocking. - file lake  shoe  10:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this is turning into a debate which is more properly carried out elsewhere. I suspect, though, that there are various definitions for "Eastern Europe" so don't expect a neat answer. For many English-speakers "Eastern Europe" became almost synonymous with "Eastern Bloc", so you are not going to shift that perspective easily. And why does it matter - it's simply a geographical description? Isn't it? --Bermicourt (talk) 11:11, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You are right, Bemicourt, we can do little to change it and the discussion here is pointless. But I don't think it is a matter of a simple "geographical description". Small and young European nations still struggle for their self-determination. Their point of view is different from long-established powers, they feel threatened (history gave them lessons many times) and they still need to defend themselves. Perhaps that's why I feel disappointed when someone call me an "Eastern European". My identity is different. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:55, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Football-related RMs
Just FYI, there are requests for move going on at Talk:Gambrinus liga and Talk:Slavia Prague. - Darwinek (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Czechia
I have seen the name Czechia used and it is a redirect to the Czech Republic article. Is Czechia an accepted alternative to Czech Republic in the literature? Is is an official alternative? It's certainly less of a mouthful. Cheers. --Bermicourt (talk) 08:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It is "official", but it hasn't caught on in English unlike in other languages cs:Česko, de:Tschechien, so the article is named Czech Republic. Not sure if this has come up but there's definitely an argument among Czechs that the name "Česko" to describe the current state is misleading, while others (as you can see from the talk page) eschew "Česká Republika" as their perpetually despised politicians trying to censor something. Either way, Czech Republic is the most commonly used form in English. - file lake  shoe  12:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I have no issue with the title of the Czech Republic page; I just wondered whether the use of Czechia in other articles was deprecated or controversial. --Bermicourt (talk) 16:07, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I would be inclined to say use of Czech Republic is preferred, for the same reason. - file lake  shoe  21:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Another diacritics-related RMs
Since the nominator is particularly not keen to notify the related WikiProjects, I must notify this WikiProject of two requests for move currently ongoing at Talk:Petr Sýkora and Talk:Jakub Petružálek. - Darwinek (talk) 10:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Why would this WikiProject be concerned about ice hockey articles? GoodDay (talk) 02:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * GoodDay, the ice hockey is not a concern here. The concern is using the accent marks in Czech proper names. This WikiProject is a relevant place for Darwinek's notification. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for move
There is a request for move at Talk:Jakub Čutta, which is a part of this WikiProject. - Darwinek (talk) 14:27, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Should diacritics be encouraged or discouraged in article's titles?
You may be interested in my proposal here. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 20:40, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * You may also be interested to know what Wikipedia's founder, Jimbo Wales has to say on this subject. He recently made persuasive arguments on his talk page in support of moving articles to use English in their titles. Jimbo Wales expressed his persuasive opinion on the use of diacritics in Wikipedia saying “our use of diacritics is already very bad and very out of control. There are many reasons why the English Wikipedia should be written in English, and this is one of the strongest.". He went on to write: "To answer a bunch of specific questions above in one go: yes, all of those renamings to use English rather than foreign languages should happen immediately. I don't care what Britannica and Encarta do; they are resources for the 20th century, which is behind us now.  I think moderation is in order, but I think we are very far from moderation." Dolovis (talk) 04:36, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * People may be inclined to take a bit more notice of what he says because he's the founder, but WP works on the Consensus model, not who shouts the loudest. -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 04:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for move
There is a request for move, which may interest members of this WikiProject, at Talk:Martin Ruzicka. - Darwinek (talk) 10:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for move
There is a request for move, which may interest members of this WikiProject, at Talk:Praha hlavní nádraží. - Darwinek (talk) 19:16, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

RfC notification
A new discussion on wording changes to the current guideline to clarify the use of diacritics for subjects whose native names contain them has been initiated. It can be found at Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 08:37, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Request for move
There are requests for move, which may interest members of this WikiProject, at Talk:Miroslav Blaťák and Talk:Jiří Hunkes. - Darwinek (talk) 11:16, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to believe that I found myself in a crazy world reminding me of the Catch-22. I left my comments on relevant talk pages. Thanks to computer developers for the copy/paste tool :)) --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:47, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This is like being at the foreign police in Chodov, just putting a razítko on each RM as they come up. I feel it's actually time to start denying recognition, I'm not bothering to participate anymore. - file lake  shoe  20:49, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The initiator of those countless RMs is waiting for us to give up. I hope you will change your mind. - Darwinek (talk) 21:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Such an idiotic battle makes no sense, Darwinek. Perhaps it is time to accept the fact that Wikipedia is not "the sum of all human knowledge" (I admit that I find this phrase laughable and pompous), but rather a short-sighted project limited by cultural differences. It looks that the accent marks could be really harmful to the mental state of an average English reader, and it is more important than providing correct information. It is a step back, and that's the most disappointing thing for me. I'm starting to think it would be better to give it up rather than adopt this disgraceful style of arguing. It is bellow my level. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 07:21, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * If I were an uninvolved admin I would probably close each diacritics related RM from either side. Since these are all just copy paste rationale requests, there should be a centralised discussion going on. Having the same argument (use diacritics because of accuracy vs. i dont like foreign things & flawed google searches) on 20 different talk pages is not going to achieve anything. - file lake  shoe  10:22, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You might be interested in commenting at Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:54, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Mojmír
There are requests for move at Talk:Mojmír I and Talk:Mojmír II. - Darwinek (talk) 18:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Article alerts
Just for your information, there is a great WikiProject Czech Republic/Article alerts page, automatically listing all relevant discussions related to this project, like articles for deletion, categories for deletion, requests for move or GA/FA nominations. You may consider adding this page to your watchlist, to be updated with all the latest news. - Darwinek (talk) 21:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

2011_Chilean_Pen_Incident
I started a discussion regarding this article at Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard. Any input is welcome. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Musings on Silesian people and categories
Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 20:09, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Petr Cibulka Jr.
Hello. I'm sure that most of you would know something about the former dissident and somewhat eccentric politician Petr Cibulka. But what do you think about this young political scientist? Is he notable enough for inclusion on this project? Here is the G-search result for "Petr Cibulka" "Informační institut". Thanks for any opinions. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:32, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * He doesn't seem like a notable person to me. There are many more, really notable Czech political scientists, who don't have own articles at Wikipedia. WP:AFD? - Darwinek (talk) 14:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Possible hoax, edit-war issue
Please see Czechia (one-word name of the Czech Republic) This article has been created, redirected, and blanked repeatedly. If this is a hoax, the redirect should be taken to WP:RFD, if it's not, then the content should probably be incorporated into Names of the Czech Republic. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * This isn't a hoax. The article to which it redirects now is accurate about the issue. The government is trying to promote a one-word name, for simplicity reasons, but it sounds artificial to most, so it's controversial (it also sounds kinda Bohemia-centric, ignoring Moravia and Silesia). I think the redirect was the right way to address this. Puchiko (Talk-email) 21:56, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Why is Czech Republic any more inclusive of Moravia and Silesia than Czechia? Just asking. --Bermicourt (talk) 00:22, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not think it sounds Bohemia-centric, but I agree that many people feel it artificial. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 22:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

RFC ar Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English)
There has been a brewing issue at WP:RM over WP:HOCKEY recommendations and how they should be applied over WP:COMMONNAME and WP:UE. Basically the hockey recommendation is that Diacritics shall be applied to all player pages, where appropriate as for the languages of the nationalities of the players in question. This is in fact a mandate that does not allow consideration of any other policy on naming. I think we need to resolve the issue of which naming convention we use for ice hockey players. Is it the one for the names of everyone else based on existing policy and guidelines, or do we have a blanket exception for one project? Please go to Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(use_English) Vegaswikian (talk) 00:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Mass page move request
A mass nomination to move articles about sportsmen has been filed at Talk:Dominik_Halmosi -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 03:50, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Asking for help
On the Wikipedia page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia it takes a while exhausting debate on the writing and writing at all of minority languages in articles about settlements in Croatia. Please if you have time, look at the page and try to help us in forming some kind of agreement. We will highly appreciate your effort.--MirkoS18 (talk) 23:14, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Dominik Hašek at WP:TFAR
Since no one who has over 20 edits on Dominik Hašek has edited this in over 20 months, I am not sure who to turn to. I am trying to nominate this at WP:TFAR on behalf of WP:CHICAGO. However, it may need some cleanup. Join the discussion there and get involved in editing if you can help.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Aneta Langerová
FYI, this article is being discussed at Articles for deletion/Aneta Langerová. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:29, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

List of castles in the Plzeň Region
I'm trying to figure out sources to properly disambiguate List of castles in the Plzeň Region, but the one English source is not as extensive as the list. I'm not sure if the list needs to be drastically reduced or if there simply isn't an English source for me to use. Anyone have an opinion on how to deal with this? Thanks, -- Ja Ga  talk 19:15, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The beginning of the list is pretty weird, I've never heard of places like Ballymotte or BoomShakaLaka in the Plzeň Region. The words are not Czech or German. Some of the names are funny but totally made up/nonexistent. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:46, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Heh, I hadn't noticed that. So OK, we know there is definitely vandalism in this list. Any suggestions for what I should use to clean it up? The English ref seems incomplete, but maybe that's the best we can do. I'd rather have an incomplete list than one filled with junk. -- Ja Ga  talk 22:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of the content is verifiable using this interactive map (hrady.cz). I checked some of the strangely looking names (I'm not from Plzeň Region and I'm not familiar with local geography), the information seems to be correct and verifiable. I don't think it is necessary to delete. I'll try to check out/verify the whole list. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:51, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I believe I got Bezděkov right (once I figured out zámek can mean "palace"), but Brdo stumped me completely. -- Ja Ga  talk 15:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think it may correspond to this entry but there doesn't seem to be a Wiki entry for the corresponding geographic location. -- Ja Ga  talk 16:03, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

One of the problems is this list uses the names of the buildings, not the town they're in. In many cases they're one and the same, but for example I came across this, which is clearly the source of the Záluží entry in the list, but there's no town of Záluží nearby - that's just the name of the building. Some entries use the building name instead of the town - such as Bělá Castle. I wonder if they should all be like that - so-and-so Castle or so-and-so Chateau (or House). -- Ja Ga  talk 20:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

HighBeam Research partnership
HighBeam Research -- an online, pay-for-use search engine for newspapers, magazines, academic journals, newswires, trade magazines and encyclopedias has agreed to give free, full-access, 1-year accounts for up to 1000 Wikipedia editors to use. HighBeam has access to over 80 million articles from 6,500 publications, most of which are not available for free elsewhere on the internet. Aside from a free 7-day trial (credit card required), access to HighBeam would cost $30 per month or $200 per year for the first year and $300 for subsequent years, so this is a wonderful, free, no-strings-attached opportunity. To qualify, editors must have at least a 1 year-old account with 1000 edits. Please add your name to the WP:HighBeam/Applications account sign-up page if you are interested. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:54, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Is Czechia deprecated on Wikipedia?
Hi, I'd just like to understand whether the official English name "Czechia" is deprecated or banned on English Wiki in favour of the more common "Czech Republic". I had always assumed both were acceptable and neither was wrong. The reason is that User:Mewulwe is making mass changes without discussion from "Czechia" to "Czech Republic". Before I revert them, I would like to understand the project's view. I have left a comment on Mewulwe's talk page asking him not to make any more changes before we have had a discussion here. --Bermicourt (talk) 07:28, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Since it appeared to be used commonly on here, it would seem not. Obviously there are differing opinions on this and Mewulwe should wait for a consensus rather than full-scale mass-reverting and edit warring the addition out. It should atleast have some history in the Name of the Czech Republic article, which has repeatedly been removed. – Connormah (talk) 13:52, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * False premise and false logic. It is not used commonly on here, I changed maybe 80 articles and that was about all there was, aside from its being mass-replicated in some template code. And even if it was in more common use here, that would certainly not indicate that it is OK, since a lot of deprecated or plain wrong things can be found hundred- or thousandfold among millions of articles. Most occurrences seem to be added (1) by non-native English speakers who assume "Czechia" based on the existence of an equivalent being in common use in their language, such as the German "Tschechien", and (2) by certain Czech "Czechia"-pushers like User:Neewi, who want to abuse Wikipedia to bring it into common use. No "history" has been removed, only Neewi's nonsense. Mewulwe (talk) 14:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * According to naming policy, we must use most common name in English. This is "Czech republic", not "Czechia". And one remark - User:Mewulwe is not making changes, but he is defending status quo, as some anon massively changed "Czech republic" to "Czechia".--Yopie (talk) 14:27, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, not entirely true. Having learned that it is an official English version name approved by the Czech government, I frequently use it in articles, which is why I picked up that Mewulwe was changing every instance, in some cases to "Czech lands" which sounds even less common or official. But I am not here to argue a POV, I wish to understand what the project consensus is - I thought I did. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:16, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You must have "learned" that on Wikipedia. It is simply not true. The only official name is Czech Republic. Czechia was informally suggested, but, not having caught on, it is no longer used even by the Czech government (just search the two terms on gov.cz, it's 2,690 to 12, and the latter are all but one the proper name of some company). "Czech lands" is the correct historic term for the area for the time before there was a Czech Republic. Mewulwe (talk) 18:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, funnily enough the article on Czech Republic says "In 1993, the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs suggested the name Czechia as an official alternative in all situations other than formal official documents and the full names of government institutions; however, this has not become widespread in English, even though most other languages have single-word names for the country (usually their own variants of "Czechia")." Moreover this site states "Czechia is the official one-word name of the Czech Republic. In 1993 the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic in its memorandum to all Czech embassies and diplomatic missions recommended to use the full name "Czech Republic" only in official documents and titles of official institutions. In all other cases, the one-word name Czechia should be preferred."
 * So does anyone other than Mewulwe have a view? Can anyone point me to a Wikipedia rule or convention that bans "Czechia" as an alternative name for this country? --Bermicourt (talk) 20:13, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Inasmuch as you're reading the quoted sentence as contradicting what I said, it is wrong, and thus, as I said, you're getting misinformed by Wikipedia. The word "suggested" is correct, the word "official" isn't; obviously both don't go together, either something is official or merely suggested. The fact is it was only suggested, and has long since been given up, and has no official standing whatsoever. The site czechia.org is, of course, a private site trying to push the name with the usual false claims as they're repeated by Neewi (who may well be behind that site, since it links to the same text he keeps posting). I'm at a loss as to why you thought this worth citing as if it was some reliable source. Mewulwe (talk) 21:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe the name "Czechia" is banned, but it is contrary to good practice to use it in place of "Czech Republic" to refer to the contemporary state because it simply is not common use. It could be used to refer to "the territory of the present day Czech Republic" when speaking in a historical context (this is where "Czech lands" comes in) but I'm struggling to think of many examples when it's not better just to specify Bohemia/Moravia/Silesia or name the historical state in question (first republic, Austria-Hungary or whatever). - file lake  shoe  09:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It just seems to me that "Czechia" is a useful shorthand for the long-winded full title in the same way that "Britain" or "United States" are shorthand for the full titles of those nations. However, my real issue is that one user is unilaterally imposing a blanket ban on "Czechia" when I have seen no Wikipedia decision or policy that supports that action. "Czechia" is not wrong, just uncommon and clearly disliked by some, those are not reasons IMHO to expunge every occurrence. That seems like pushing a POV to me. I am not going around changing every occurrence of "Czech Republic" to "Czechia"; please afford me the same courtesy, unless you can point to a rule banning it. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:32, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You are not doing it, but others are, and that's the problem here, which is what I was counteracting. Otherwise I wouldn't be concerned about the occasional "Czechia" here and there, in proportion to its general use. Personally I don't think there is anything intrinsically wrong with the term, and wouldn't mind if it became more popular. I am only against abusing Wikipedia to facilitate this. Mewulwe (talk) 13:50, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Your request is entirely justified. I can see no harm for this project in using both the names. Personally, I think this has a lot to do with Bohemian and Moravian nationalism. The word "Czechia" (in Czech Česko or Čechie) refers rather to Bohemia and omits Moravia and Silesia. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:07, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks guys, I'm beginning to understand this better. I won't revert any of Mewulwe's changes to date, as long as I'm free to use either term in a reasonable way without risk of reversion. Is that fair? --Bermicourt (talk) 15:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Definitely. I have no objections. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

BLP moved
Not sure what the Project's guidelines are for (1) lede or (2) title, but personally think accuracy is of prime concern for lede line of BLPs. (for example Radomír Vašek moved to Radomir Vasek and Tomáš Anzari to Tomas Anzari, both without discussion or WP:RM not sure how many more..) In ictu oculi (talk) 05:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * "Radomír Vašek (born 23 September 1972) and professionally known as Radomir Vasek" seriously, just when I thought the anti-diacritics league couldn't possibly make up any funnier bullshit, they did.
 * I agree with you that these moves are utter nonsense, as well as the linguistically fallacious argument that "Tomas Anzari is Tomáš Anzari in English", but this discussion has been going round in circles for months now and I'm bored of it already. As for whether its a BLP issue, I just wonder how that barely known ice hockey player whose article kick started all this nonsense would feel if he knew about it. He'd probably find it pretty funny. - file lake  shoe  09:49, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Uff, no. It's here again. This was discussed on highest levels, including Jimbo's talk and a widely attended RfC. All that without any sensible result. I don't want to restart or join the useless chatter again, it makes no sense. On the other hand, the 'utter nonsense' cited above might be funny, but it looks like a very bad joke in an encyclopedia. It's difficult to accept that. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:51, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Good Lord. I always thought the standard protocol with names including diacritics was to have the article name be "complete" with all applicable diacritics and then have various redirects coming from non-diacritical spellings. Tomas redirects automatically to Tomáš, etc. Florestanová (talk) 01:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is that we are supposed to use English language sources, not invent our own protocol. Often they don't use diacritics, presumably because they don't mean anything to most English speakers. I think the key is to ensure both versions are in the lede and to provide an easy guide to pronunciation. --Bermicourt (talk) 06:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * But some of the population's ignorance of the function of diacritical marks is not a reason to misspell things in our encyclopedia. I've just had a look around at a handful of articles about, say, famous French and Spanish people whose names include diacritical marks, and their names are spelled correctly in the title and lede without much agony on anyone's part. Czech should be no different, in my humble opinion. Florestanová (talk) 20:52, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I did not say that. I simply explained why I think reliable sources don't use diacritics. We are in danger of promoting our own invented Wiki rules over using reliable sources. I appreciate that native speakers don't usually like other languages changing their words, but hey, that's what happens and we need to go with the sources. London is called "Londres" and Wales is called "Pays de Galles" in some quarters! --Bermicourt (talk) 06:24, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Reliable sources like here and here? Doesn't seem to be an "invented Wiki rule" to me... Cloudz 679 08:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyone can be selective and Encyclopaedia Britannica is not recognised by some as reliable, because it's a tertiary source like Wikipedia. However, if this issue was black and white, it wouldn't have rumbled on so long. I frankly, don't care which way we do it - I argued for dropping the "ß" in German article names, but the debate went the other way and I happily get on with it using the "ß" and going with the consensus. What we need here is to have a logical and mature debate in line with Wiki guidelines, reach a consensus and stick with it. The main aim is not getting obscure diacritics approved or disapproved, but to add to the sum of human knowledge. --Bermicourt (talk) 11:39, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Move discussion to Talk:Radomír Vašek please. I don't recognise those two stats sources as being reliable for how to spell things right since one says he played in a championship in "Pilzen", and the other says his name is pronounced "VAH-sek", both of which are simply wrong. Remember that RS isn't as black and white as "source X is reliable", it's "source X is reliable for statement Y". Those sources are great for sourcing stats, apparently not for spelling and pronunciation, and that's not their purpose. - file lake  shoe  19:47, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the problem with previous RfC was it failed to distinguished BDP from BLP. If a tightening of current WP:BLP guidelines at WT:BLP was implemented, the remaining 70-80 egregious sports BLPs could be fixed painlessly and this constant disruption ended. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Going against what I just said, I just came across Talk:Martin Čech, which was so outrageous, that sometimes an exception is needed.
 * Vejvančický. Looking at the history (of which I wasn't aware) I can understand why you are sick of trying. However, I think the atmosphere has changed. When I sent out 100+ invitations for the WT:BLP (with Beyoncé Knowles picture, I deliberately didn't add one on your Talk page because of your comment above) I was surprised to see how overwhelming support for WP:MOSPN was among the last 30 days RMs. Fully 90 of the 100 I sent the Beyoncé Knowles invitation to were in favour of accurate spelling of living persons names. I think as the saying goes "the worm has turned" (per Shakespeare: "The smallest worm will turn, being trodden on" Henry VI, part III). In ictu oculi (talk) 00:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Helfenburk
Can someone please help me out here? Thanks! - filelake shoe &#xF0F6;  15:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Cultural Heritage
Hello, I'm trying to update List of heritage registers to make it a little more globally representative; the Czech Republic did not previously feature - but there's these articles on the Czech and German Wikipedias - Seznam národních kulturních památek České republiky,  Liste der Nationalen Kulturdenkmale Tschechiens - and I think these feature on MonumNet ; I don't know whether anyone with the relevant knowledge/skills/interest would be interested in translating these and/or starting an introductory page to the country's officially designated/protected/promoted cultural heritage (don't know if there's also eg folk/intangible heritage that's officially recognized in addition to these monuments) as it features on heritage registers? If not, I am, but am unlikely to do it for a few years, thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

praha hl.n.
RM again. Since I've been creating lots of Czech station articles, coming up with a naming convention would be nice. - filelake shoe &#xF0F6;  15:58, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That is at least showing on the Article Alerts requested moves on project front page. Tomas Knotek → Tomáš Knotek etc, and Ondrej Palat → Ondřej Palát are not showing. I wonder if it is a delay, or due to them being subsidiary moves in a multiple move discussion? In ictu oculi (talk) 03:45, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Bunch of BLP articles without diacritics
Hey all,

I was reviewing several previous discussions of diacritics in article titles, and came across the below list of hockey players, all of whom have been stripped of diacritics in the article titles. I speak a little Czech, and was confused to no end as to the correct pronunciation until I read the article lead. Thoughts on changing them? I'm currently involved in an RFC on article titles, so it would be unwise for me to move them myself.


 * Lukas Sablik
 * Lukas Mensator
 * Roman Prosek
 * Petr Prindis ‎
 * Jan Latal
 * Jakub Trefny
 * Martin Paryzek
 * Michal Dobron
 * Pavel Kubena
 * Milan Hluchy
 * Milan Prochazka
 * Stepan Hrebejk
 * Tomas Rohan
 * Tomas Klima
 * Jan Kostal
 * Martin Zatovic
 * Marek Melenovsky
 * Frantisek Skladany
 * Lukas Klima

Cheers, Zaldax (talk) 03:21, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Zaldax. The articles listed above (and many more) were created by the abusive user Dolovis, already banned from editing. Having BLP articles in incorrect form is quite controversial, but I would suggest going through WP:RM and suggesting there the correct forms. - Darwinek (talk) 07:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)


 * And as long as you realise that 99% of the English-speaking world has absolutely no clue what the diacritics mean or how to produce them. Along with most of the English language press! --Bermicourt (talk) 19:03, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I do realize that, but I personally believe that BLP's should have their correct name - most English speakers tend to ignore diacritics they can't pronounce, but for those who know what they mean their presence is a huge help. In any case, these articles have all been listed at RM by another user. Cheers, Zaldax (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * A couple of those are included in the 50x I just put in to WP:RM. It's going to be a tiring job requiring three more big batches of 30x to correct all of Dolovis' deliberate mispellings. However, best to do it "above board" - and it easier now given that consensus is evidently very strongly for correct spelling of living persons.
 * @Bermicourt, what type of English-speakers do you mean? I would estimate at least half, more than half, of UK people know that Prošek is "Proshek". The subtleties, well, how many English-speakers know how to pronounce Colquhoun? That isn't a reason for mispelling the name Co-hoon. Correct spelling and correct pronunciation are apples and oranges. Pronunciation requires adding IPA symbols (if you're volunteering!) In ictu oculi (talk) 17:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops, there may be some redundancies, then; I just listed them, since I didn't see them in the 50x you included. The relevant discussions are below.
 * Talk:Milan_Prochazka
 * Talk:Lukas_Sablik
 * Cheers, Zaldax (talk) 17:48, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I put the remaining 100x into WP:RM. The 30x Slovak ones as well. I think that's all now. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Prague pictures
Several Prague pictures are up for deletion at Possibly unfree files/2012 September 9 -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 00:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)