Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dance/Archive 6

Useful web resource
Arts Journal Dance is a compendium of recent articles on dance companies & topics Paul foord 14:15, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: The Blatric
Sirs, I need help to stop an article being deleated! The Blatric is a new dance craze that is hitting the Edinburgh, UK dance scene. We need help in keeping this article. Please can anyone help by adding to the discussion on that page. This is has several hundreds of followers in edinburgh, we need help! Even though this dance is still fairly new it could be the next form of Krumping for all you know! Thanks. Theblatric (talk) 17:15, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Dance technology

 * --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 17:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * updated --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I vote to keep - it's an interesting field, and should expand rapidly. Not sure if it is an art in itself, or science applied to art behind-the-scenes ?--195.137.93.171 (talk) 10:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Casinero

 * --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * updated --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 17:45, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Notice of List articles
Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Contents subpages (not by me). This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. --Quiddity 18:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * List of basic dance topics

infobox dancer
I started an infobox: template:infobox dancer, which is just an adaptation from template:football player infobox. I ran into a few problems though. If anyone can help me with the infobox giving suggestions of what should be in there, or how to make it, I'd appreciate it. I gave it a testrun on Sarah Van Patten. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I know almost nothing of templates and infoboxes.
 * 2) I know almost nothing of dance.

Forlane and Furlana
I think these may be the same thing, but the descriptions are somewhat unclear (they are both very short). I thought I'd ask here to see if anyone is familiar with 17th century dances and can advise on if they should be merged, or if not, how they can be better distinguished. Rigadoun (talk) 20:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * They are the same if one is to believe Yale University's libarians: Forlane; TYPE (English, French); Italian folkdance; use for forlana, furlana. Robert Greer (talk) 21:12, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Kajal Tank

 * --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 17:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

ABT, NYCB, Ballets Russes and Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo
There is discussion on Categories for discussion/Log/2008 January 11 of the categories for ABT and NYCB dancers and Ballets Russes (and Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo) choreographers. It is proposed that these categories be deleted! One may post a comment there. Robert Greer (talk) 11:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Categories:Dance styles (or genres)
Looking at the Category:Dances it appears that a category such as Category:Dance styles in Category:Dance similar to Category:Music genres would be useful. I did wonder about genres but the usage did not seem quite right. The category would include styles like ballet and allow particular dance and dance repertoire items to be separated. Paul foord (talk) 21:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Integrated/mixed ability dance
Hi everyone, See my question here Thanks Matt (talk) 00:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD for Dance Theater Workshop
An Articles for Deletion has been filed for Dance Theater Workshop. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz)  (talk / cont)  00:49, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's been speedily kept. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz)  (talk / cont)  00:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Dance: Articles of unclear notability
Hello, there are currently 10 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with notability concerns. I have listed them here. (Note: this listing is based on a database snapshot of 2008-03-12 and may be slightly outdated.) I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether independent sources can be added, whether the articles can be merged into an article of larger scope, or possibly be deleted. Any help in cleaning up this backlog is appreciated. For further information, see WikiProject Notability. If you have any questions, please leave a message on the Notability project page or on my personal talk page. (I'm not watching this page however.) Thanks! --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Master Juba at peer review
Hello! I've just put Master Juba up at peer review. Master Juba was a black American dancer who lived in the 19th century. He is, according to many authorities, the father of tap dancing and made a profound impact on American dance styles. He was also significant as the first black man to get top billing over white performers. At any rate, I thought there might be some knowledgeable (or just curious) folks following this page who might be interested in giving some feedback. The review page can be found here. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! — Dulcem (talk) 06:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD Beverly Jane Fry
There is an AfD debate on Beverly Jane Fry here Paul foord (talk) 09:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Slow dance
Hello. Unreferenced articles needs your help. Slow dance has been without any references since June, 2006. Could you please take a minute out of your busy day to help add sources? Thanks for your time. Viriditas (talk) 13:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Dance genre infobox
This infobox is not currently in use and needs some more work. Infobox dance genre

Paul foord (talk) 15:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Current Category:Dance by ethnicity or region --> proposed Category:Dances by ethnicity or region + Category:Dance by country
Currently the Category:Dance by ethnicity or region includes sub-categories and articles that should go to Category:Dances by ethnicity or region + Category:Dance by country. Paul foord (talk) 09:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD List of some notable dancers
The list List of some notable dancers is at WP:AfD (see Articles for deletion/List of some notable dancers) -- Paul foord (talk) 11:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Infobox Dancer
Template:Infobox Dancer still needs some work, but I've now sorted out some documentation so it's a bit more user-friendly. It still shows signs of its previous existence as a football template, but perhaps some dance fans might want to think about what information it would be useful to include in the infobox. If you don't fancy editing it yourself, the template builders would be delighted to help you. Anyway, now there's no excuse for not sprinkling the infobox over any people articles within this Project.FlagSteward (talk) 14:42, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Tidying WP Dance discussion
Tidying WP Dance to get it to work better is being discussed at User_talk:Happy-melon Paul foord (talk) 02:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

new Category:History of dance
See Category:History of dance, quick look found history of articles. Are there others? Paul foord (talk) 03:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * dance
 * ballet
 * tango

Rename proposal for the lists of basic topics
This project's subject has a page in the set of Lists of basic topics. See the proposal at the Village pump to change the names of all those pages. The Transhumanist 09:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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Image needs replacement
Hello all... An image used on the WikiProject page, specifically Image:Hey for four.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. The image is not used anywhere else, and it really is serving no real nessesary purpose here (in my opinion). I wonder if a concensus of participants here could reach a determination to remove it. If so, it can be nominated at WP:IfD. If there appears to be a need for this drawing here or on an article, it would be best if it was recreated, uploaded and properly licensed; then this image could be deleted at WP:IfD as obsolete. Thanks.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 21:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Joining the project
Hi! I am a dance aficionado and would like to join. THDju (talk) 23:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

American traditional informal freeform solo folk dancing
Could somebody take a look at American traditional informal freeform solo folk dancing? It looks like a lot of original research. Little Red Riding Hood  talk  01:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Correct Usage of Leotard image
Hello. I uploaded a long time ago an image of me to be used in the leotard article in view that the old one was inappropriate. I checked and saw that it is now used it some more articles, like the german leotard or the french ballet term. However its also in the Gravure idol article which is totally irrelative. I dont speak french so I would be grateful is someone deleted it from the french wiki. (its been a long time since i wrote in wikipedia and have forgotten how to place a signature, my username is viruswitch) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Viruswitch (talk • contribs) 09:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion / article in sad need of some help
Poor neglected "cotillion" has been merged with what is currently the master article on the subject, which is all about debutante balls, and nothing to do with the eighteenth-century dance form! The article itself was asked to be deleted, although I don't see it in the actual deletions nomination list, so I think the tag could be removed. As of now, though, the article Cotillion_(dance) has nothing in it but three meager paragraphs which I stole from the article on debutante balls. Sadly, I can do no better; I came here to learn more about them! I'll add the "expert" tag and hope that someone at this project can give it some love. Feyandstrange (talk) 14:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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Balkan dance article?
I don't know if this is the proper forum to raise this question, but I was wondering whether an article on Balkan dance would fit into the structure of dance articles. Although there are articles on the folk dances of the individual Balkan countries, there is none on them as a group. Yet Balkan folk dance is often viewed as a single category within the dance community, because of a regional distinctiveness, and because, due to extensive ethnic mixing, dance styles don't break down along national but along ethnic lines - the same styles and dances are done in different countries. "Balkan line dance" forms a popular subcategory within the international folk dance movement, and folk dance groups all over the world specialize in the dances of the Balkan countries as a group. Balkan dances have much in common: they are line dances; the music has distinctive "asymmetric meters", composed of two different length beats; common formations, common handholds; a common vocabulary of foot movements, such as čukče, common styles. At present this extensive common dance "vocabulary" is described piecemeal in articles on the individual countries and individual dances, causing a great deal of redundancy. So how about an overview article to provide the terminology to describe these common styles? Should it be called Balkan line dance, Folk dances of the Balkans, or what? -- Chetvorno TALK 23:02, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Mayerling Incident: Dance or not?
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 * Still nothing. Anybody? Anything? -- 201.37.230.43 (talk) 03:50, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Dances and styles
Can anybody explain the difference between dances and dance styles as categories? I am asking because I'd like to make dance-oriented music genres easy to find under "music". Please post me if there's an answer. Thanks. Redheylin (talk) 19:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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Infoboxes
Hi guys. Is there a dance infobox that would be suitable for a dance troupe, or performing arts group of some kind? AFAICT, the dancer infobox only caters for individuals, and I'm wary of using the "musical artist" infobox for a non-musical arts group. Cheers! Cycle~ (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, it's sorted! Cycle~ (talk) 19:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

JESSICA GUADALUPE
Hi... I think this article is very interesting, because it talks about the most beautiful dance in the world. Ballet´s history had past for a lot of periods and changes around the world. All that changes have created three ballet styles: classical, neoclassical and contemporary. It´s considerate an art esenical. If you want to dance ballet you need to have a body control, because the movements are base in flexibility. I think, that ballet practice could be difficult, but maybe is a very good experience accompany with a lot of fun... so, What are you waiting to start practicing ballet???--201.156.166.122 (talk) 02:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Melanie LaPatin
Could someone help me expand the Melanie LaPatin article? ---kilbad (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

What's missing from Outline of dance?
Also, here's a relevant discussion about subject development you might find interesting.

The Transhumanist 00:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Peruvian Vals
Hi. Wikipedia has articles for "Vals Peruano" in several languages. I am going to talk about the one in English. It is known that about the origin of this dance that it comes from colonial time, from the Viena Waltzes. Recently I was listening some pieces of French Valse Musette. You can listen the sound is alike Peruvian vals with the 1-2 that goes with the main melody. In Youtube is possible to see some older French people (see "vals musette" and "bal musette") that dance exactly like Peruvians dance it. In addition, need is to say that this music was rooted mainly in Lima and the larger cities in Perú. It is also called "Vals criollo" meaning that it was more related to persons with Spaniard heritage in their blood. The "Vals criollo/Peruano" was to benefit from radio and TV difussion last century. Its golden time was from te '40s to the '60s. Actually is fading because new forms of popular music that goes from cumbia and rock, to the loved andean music are winning more room in radio, TV and the Internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kharrub (talk • contribs) 15:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Dance troupe
I noticed that there is no dance troupe article, dispite the fact that "(dance troupe)" is used for disambiguation in several article titles. Should a dance troupe article be created, or should it just be redirected to some previously existing article? --Zundark (talk) 08:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I think dance troupe should be redirected to dance company and that article expanded. There will be exceptions to the rule, but generally the term dance troupe or dance company are pretty much interchangeable. Crazy-dancing (talk) 18:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I also agree... Many dance troupes started off as small groups of dancers assembled for performances who lacked the scope, scale and finances of formal dance companies. Most major and notible dance organizations are today established as "companies" and the use of "troupe" appears to be archaic.  Thanks.

Seamanjg (talk) 17:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Two categories for deletion
Project members may be interested in the following two deletion debates for categories relating to this project:
 * dance disambiguation pages — Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 30
 * ballet disambiguation pages — Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 30

Description of moves
Why not add a chapter in each dance article about description of the dance moves ? For example, for Salsa, descriptions of Enchufla or Copa or Cross body lead, etc could be added. It is possible to give a detailed description (in tableform) with footpositions, timing, body direction etc. Marc1956 (talk) 21:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Contributions from project members would be welcome at these discussions (and of course at all CFD discussions!). -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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Pamula Anderson
Only Len would be looking at her feet. . .get a life Lenny O'man. . .I wish D with the Stars would start a new catorgory just for her "Pole Dancing" between Pam and Edita viewer responce would explode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.21.37.200 (talk) 20:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

reassessment of Harris Theater (Chicago, Illinois)
I have greatly enhanced Harris Theater (Chicago, Illinois) and would like a reconsideration of its importance rating.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:38, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

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Category: Dance technique
I've started a discussion here about how to best serve readers seeking information about dance technique. I think readers would be best served if the dance technique category only lists articles that are focused on dance technique. In cases where there is no article about a specific dance technique, the category could list the article that contains the most comprehensive discussion of that technique. Others have suggested that the category cover organisations that are closely connected with specific techniques, but I feel that this would clutter the page and not be of value to readers who seek to expand their knowledge about technique. Presumably, that line of thinking could be expanded to the point where dance schools, dance companies, and dancers would also be listed on the category page. Comments? Lambtron (talk) 14:22, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Lambtron I think you are failing to take into account what categories on Wikipedia are supposed to do. They are not there to present a neat little bundle of specific articles, they are there to help the reader find a whole range of articles associated with the subject that they are interested in. Sometimes this can indeed create very large, cluttered categories encompassing hundreds of articles, but here you are taking issue with the Category:Dance technique which has just 14 articles in it and 4 sub categories. This is hardly cluttered, if anything it is a badly under-utilised category.


 * Secondly, organisations that are notable for the research, development and training of dance technique are more than relevant to this category. And yes, the same should also apply to notable schools or individuals that have devised unique and identifiable training programmes or specific moves etc. Examples there might include Martha Graham, Vaganova, Matt Mattox, Leonard Reed and Victor Silvester.  Companies I would never include in that category, because by their nature they exist for the performance of dance, not the training or development of technique, so no they would not be relevant to the category.


 * Finally, you make it sound as though this category were a rambling mess of unrelated articles, which is far from the truth. As you know, I have already written on the RAD talk page that I think you are applying too narrow a definition of what dance technique actually means. You are trying to create a discussion which has no definite answer, because not everyone sees the term "dance technique" and thinks of the same thing.  Many people would think of ballet as being a dance technique, whereas others would think of it as a genre, category or style of dance, with the technique of ballet being more specific to the 'school' or method in which dancers are trained, in which case the RAD is one of the most prominent methods.


 * All in all, you are splitting hairs and creating an issue where there doesn't actually appear to be a problem. If you were raising this discussion about a category that was over cluttered with articles, I would agree.  In this case however, you are discussing a category with a handful of articles that are all relevant, including the ones that you have removed from that category in recent days.  I do take this slightly personally in that it only seems to be articles I have contributed heavily to that you have done this with. Crazy-dancing (talk) 16:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Please don't take it personally -- I have great respect for your knowledge of dance and your contributions to Wikipedia, and I don't mean to be critical of the excellent work you have done. While it may seem like splitting hairs, and while it may not be a problem right now, I see this as an important policy matter that has the potential to "open the floodgate" and litter the category with largely unrelated articles, thereby rendering it useless for readers who are trying to research dance technique. Admittedly, "dance technique" is a gray area. In general, though, I believe most readers think of things like spotting, turnout, and pointed toes, or the rapid movement that is characteristic of the Balanchine method, and that's the sort of information they are seeking on the category page. Listing every technique-related organisation, even ones that "live, eat and breathe" a specific technique or method, will greatly diminish the usefulness of this category to readers. Listing one such organisation, and deciding it's okay to do so, opens the floodgate.


 * I disagree, the RAD is a 'special case' so to speak, hence why it is quoted in so many of the articles relating to ballet and ballet technique. No the article does not yet go into great detail about the unique aspects of the training system, but the notability of the method is well established nevertheless. Crazy-dancing (talk) 19:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, the article goes into great detail about the RAD training system and its notability; what's missing is any substantial discussion of RAD dance technique. You said elsewhere that "[a] dancer trained in the RAD method of ballet will not learn to execute a pirouette using exactly the same technique as a dancer trained in the Vaganova method". I assume you were talking about differences in the way pirouettes are executed by dancers, and that's exactly the sort of technique I'm talking about: dance technique. Which is to say that I am pointedly not talking about teaching, or training technique or method. I keep hearing that RAD dance technique is notable, that it is rigorously codified, that it was invented by and is only taught by RAD, and so on, but I have not read a single sentence that explains what that proprietary dance technique is. For example, how do pirouettes differ between the RAD and Vaganova methods? One or two paragraphs about those differences would go a long way toward explaining RAD dance technique -- and satisfying the curiosity of readers who follow the dance technique category link in pursuit of that specific information. Lambtron (talk) 14:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that organisations that are notable for the research, development and training of dance technique are relevant to this category. Furthermore, I agree that the article for every such organisation belongs on the dance technique category page -- provided it actually discusses dance technique. I also believe that inventors of dance techniques, dance schools, dance companies, dancers, and dance styles and genres are relevant too, and they too should be subject to the same rules of inclusion on the category page. I don't think that's unreasonable, and everyone wins: appropriate articles of every flavor will be listed, and readers will be presented with meaty links that lead to knowledge of dance technique. Lambtron (talk) 18:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Borodin Polovetsin Dances/Verdi Requiem
There's a brief passage in the Borodin which (to my inexpert ear) sounds very similar to the most famous dramatic bit of the Requiem - I think I mean the Dies Irae. So - would some expert like to comment on who copied who? 92.18.175.234 (talk) 12:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Black Swan
Hello, I am working on Black Swan (film), a ballet film that is premiering at the Venice Film Festival today. My forte is film, and I have been working on the article using film-related references. I ask editors here to review the article about usage of ballet terminology and also request help finding ballet-related references to use. Are there any ballet or dance periodicals that will likely cover the film in the near future? Thanks, Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 16:56, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Disability templates on dance pages
A very deep side box from WikiProject Disability has recently been repeatedly added to several dance company pages. The pages affected are dance companies with activities relevant to disabled people, so the articles are certainly relevant to that project, but the side box is in my view (by no means alone) far too obtrusive, pushing in some cases article content including pictures and the dance Navbox well below the end of the main article text. See Portal talk:Disability for the latest of many discussions about this.

I've removed the side boxes yet again from all three articles (AXIS Dance Company, Candoco and DV8 Physical Theatre) and added a new disability Navbox to DV8 Physical Theatre below the dance Navbox. I think that this is reasonable for these articles, but no time at present to add it to the other two. I will appreciate it if we can let the Navboxes stay on those three articles while we sort out the infrastructure in what is a rather young project. Comments, suggestions, updates welcome... I have been helping with their new portal and one or two other things.

The dance Navbox does not start expanded as I wished once there is another Navbox, even with the necessary parameter defined, so probably some change is needed there too. I will have a look at that over the next day or so. — Mirokado (talk) 08:49, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I have just seen that another editor has added the Disability portal icon to AXIS and Candoco. Since there is already the Dance portal icon and no Navboxes on those two articles, this is quite reasonable. It jumps the gun a bit since the Disability portal has not yet been declared live, but it gives us the chance to see both possibilities. I will leave all three articles alone for now... Mirokado (talk) 09:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Dance articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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We would like to ask you to review the Dance articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (&diams;) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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Debka Article
Hello all, I'm a student at Georgetown's Masters in Arab Studies program and am a part of the Wikipedia Public Policy Initiative. Just wanted to give a heads up to the groups involved that I'll be doing research and edits on the origins and types of Debka, when it's danced, styles, etc.

--Naj87 (talk) 21:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)Naj87


 * Hello and good luck with the updates. It looks as if the main article is Dabke so you may want to update the alternative transliterations mentioned there. Mirokado (talk) 01:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Dancing mania
Dancing mania is at FAC. I'd appreciate any reviews of it here. Thanks. Aiken (talk) 15:09, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Popular pages list from Z-bot
What interest is there in having a listing of popular pages developed for WP Dance - see examples at WikiProject Birds/Popular pages & WikiProject Human rights/Popular pages. It is done by User:Mr.Z-bot -- Paul foord (talk) 12:43, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be an interesting read, and it might offer clues about where to focus editing efforts. Lambtron (talk) 13:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of International Dance Union


The article International Dance Union has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * A search for references found no puplished (gBooks) references for this organization in Kiev, Ukraine, fails WP:N and WP:V

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More than a woman by the bee gees
Where cab i get the foot movements so that I can learn how to do this dance as It is one that I have wanted to learn for years,can somebody help me please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.157.83 (talk) 21:51, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Belinda Wright needs an entry.
Belinda Wright (dancer)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/belinda-wright-443401.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1547323/Belinda-Wright.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/04/arts/dance/04wright.html http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1328840/Belinda-Wright

who wants to start? Playbill (talk) 09:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Why not you? It doesn't take that long. Pkeets (talk) 17:24, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Dance company lists of dancers etc: verifiability
I have recently had to revert what looks like a hoax update to The Royal Ballet (diff). It took forty minutes of searching before I decided to revert this. Verification took a long time because there are no inline references for the company member lists in the article and no reference was provided with the update. In future I will revert any company member updates I notice unless a reference already provided in the article clearly supports the change or a reference is provided with the update. I am not going to go on an immediate rampage through all the dance company articles but I have not yet found anything about "except for dance company articles" in the requirement for verifiability and I will not again waste so much of my time trying to verify an update. Champions of articles with company member lists should make sure the lists are verified and verifiable. A reference linking to the membership on the company website would in most cases be fine for verification (but if that is available I question the point of mirroring such a list on Wikipedia). Comments as always welcome. --Mirokado (talk) 21:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Caption for the file photo of the David H. Koch Theater
Am wondering... the photo of the David H. Koch Theater shows continental seating... wouldn't that make this a photo of the NY State Theater as it became known as the Koch theater when Mr. Koch underwrote the renovating which added a pair of center aisles? While some of us prefer the continental seating plan of the old New York State Theater, and might want to preserve the memory of it, shouldn't we get a more accurate image of the David H. Koch theater? Eye4dance (talk) 00:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC) Amy Reusch

Seeking feedback on Punjabi Dance
Hi, I'm a new Wikipedia editor. As part of my learning process, I worked on the Punjabi Dance article and wonder if anyone has suggestions for improving it. The existing content was pretty minimal, but it could grow into a very interesting article. I simply worked on improving sentence structure, etc. Can anyone suggest section headings for this article? I will also post this comment in the article's discussion page, but it doesn't look like anyone has ever been there... Octopet (talk) 20:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Should Dance template list music genres?
Recently, the "dance music" link was removed from Dance and replaced by a list of dance music genres. This seems inappropriate IMO, but I'm uncertain and would appreciate thoughts about this from other editors. Please have a look at the discussion and comment. Lambtron (talk) 17:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of David Huff (dancer)


The article David Huff (dancer) has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Long-term unreferenced biography of a living person. No reliable sources found. Does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for entertainers

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Suggested addition of archive film links to dance articles
There has been a recent dispute regarding the addition of links to Jacob's Pillow Dance Interactive in the external links section of articles, as posted by both myself Dammersk lrq2102. Links to this website were added to pages specific to the dancers, choreographer or musician as seen in the linked video. Dance Interactive is a new archival resource containing short clips of dance performance videos available at Jacob's Pillow in Becket, MA. The links were posted in an effort to share this rare, archival footage with the greater community and to sponsor a greater interest in dance overall. However, these links were removed by editors who claimed that they violated Wikipedia's policies concerning promotional material and use of the site as a "soapbox". With this added understanding of the links and their scholarly purpose, might these links be allowed? Or perhaps might they be added in a way that does not violate the above mentioned policies? Might it be better to post with the revised title concerning just the artist and date? Example: Alvin Ailey (Recorded 1988). Thank You, Dammersk (talk) 22:56, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see the following examples of the new posting format:
 * Rambert_Dance_Company
 * Alvin_Ailey
 * Asadata_Dafora

I have only done these three and would appreciate any feedback you have regarding these edits before I continue. Thank You, Dammersk (talk) 16:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


 * support: I was one of the editors who removed the original additions. With time to look at the three examples above it seems clear that these will be a valuable addition to the articles, enhancing the reader experience, and I support further such updates. I suggest limiting the external link text in each case to the words "Archive footage": shorter links look nicer and then other information on the line can be wikilinked to any articles. (I have tweaked the above to provide a list of wikilinks instead of the original full urls). --Mirokado (talk) 18:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Rename of Ballet de l'Opéra National de Paris
Ballet de l'Opéra National de Paris —> Paris Opera Ballet – I have added a rename and move request to Talk:Ballet de l'Opéra National de Paris. Please read the discussion and post comments there. --Robert.Allen (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Adam Darius
It has been suggested that Adam Darius be added to the dance portal. If agreed, how do we go about doing this? Appleattic (talk) 20:01, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia day at NYPLPA
As part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries program, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts will be having a Wikipedia editathon on Saturday, Oct. 22, as part of New York City's Meetup group. Though the day is billed as The Musical (i.e. with focus on musical theatre), that in no way excludes topics that would be well-covered by that library, including dance, theatre, opera, etc. Here's NYPL's blurb: Wikipedia: The Musical!

You can sign up at Meetup/NYC's page, which has been renamed The Musical for the event. -- kosboot (talk) 18:53, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Dance to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at WikiProject Dance/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 21:12, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Irish Dance
Hi. If an one has knowledge on Irish Stepdance please leave a message on my talk page. Also I didn't see Michael Flatley or Jean Butler on the list of articles related to dance. Would they qualify? ReelAngelGirl (talk) 19:47, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Butler already has the WP Dance template on her talk page. Her article needs some tender loving care. You could add the template to Flatley's talk page. Which list of articles related to dance are you referring to? --Mirokado (talk) 20:45, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

CFD Category:Ballets designed by Mark Stanley
For your information: Categories for discussion/Log/2011 November 5. – gpvos (talk) 13:41, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Article Check
So I copyed and pasted the Irish Stepdance article in my sandbox so I could add a new section, now I just need someone to look at it and tell me if I did the section wrong and/or change something having to do with the Irish Dance in Other Media section. Also references are needed. Thanx! ReelAngelGirl (talk) 18:48, 23 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It would certainly be nice to have at least some content with an inline reference in the article! Here are a few comments:
 * Please check the spelling and capitalise Irish
 * Section titles are with sentence capitalisation not title capitalisation, see MOS:CAP
 * No need for "other" in the title, just "Irish dance in the media" is probably OK
 * Some rephrasing needed so it is a bit clearer that both a documentary and a new series are meant, perhaps "... the competitive Irish dance world, for which the working title is Irish Dancing Tweens.(ref)"
 * Place inline references after any punctuation and before any space, see MOS:REFPUNC
 * It is better to complete references so they are not just a bare link. Have a look at other articles to see various ways of doing this
 * Happy editing. --Mirokado (talk) 22:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Featured article review for Sylvia (ballet)
nominated Sylvia (ballet) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Brad (talk) 00:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)