Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Derbyshire/Archive 3

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Thanks. — Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:04, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a very good idea to me :) Schumi  555  23:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree.... fancy an investigation or trial S555? Victuallers (talk) 23:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah why not, let's see how it goes. I've added the template to the project page, using the default settings; so we are subscribed to all workflows, and the bot will generate the subpage "/Article alerts" when it is run. Feel free to suggest any improvements that could be made. Schumi  555  09:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks ..... I'm curious to see what arrives .... If nothing else this conversation shows that at least two people are watching this page Victuallers (talk) 12:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Three (+ a bot). Occuli (talk) 12:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Four (+ a bot) - BulldozerD11 (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

We've got some 'other news' on the main page, but that's about it at the moment... Schumi 555  20:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Coordinates
There are various articles in Category:Derbyshire which could do with coordinates, if anyone feels like adding them (I find this quite interesting but others might not, of course). Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members gives tips for doing this. Occuli (talk) 16:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The articles are now in Category:Derbyshire articles missing geocoordinate data, 140 pages at the moment. (Catscan seems rather more miss than hit today.) Occuli (talk) 09:25, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

thx ....its a big improvement over just labelling things as missing, to have them sorted by county. well done. Victuallers (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I've done Derbys and S Yorks but will leave the rest to others ... Occuli (talk) 15:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Occuli - I know this took a while and I have been chipping away at it (so the projects articles appear on Google maps for instance). Derby Playhouse now has a coord as does St Oswald's Church, Ashbourne. Well done. Victuallers (talk) 18:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Just so you have an up-to-date score:  articles in Category:Derbyshire articles missing geocoordinate data --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've slowly worked through the list, there's 15 left now which I'm unable to locate, anyone able to look? Thanks, Schumi555 (talk) 18:43, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent - 15 seems more manageable. Occuli (talk) 20:07, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Down to 14 ... well done Schum555. I like to imagine that when I use Google maps and switch on wikipedia, I think I can see Derbyshire as a denser area. Leicestershire looks a lot sparser Victuallers (talk) 20:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * OK- what next ClemRutter (talk) 01:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:South Yorkshire articles missing geocoordinate data? Occuli (talk) 11:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that the number of articles in Category:Derbyshire articles missing geocoordinate data has been rising again recently, I've slowly been working on some, anyone else care to lend a hand? Schumi 555  19:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Local chapter for the Wikimedia Foundation
AndrewRT(Talk) 21:10, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Proposed merge
I've suggested merging the articles for the hamlets of Ambaston and Thulston into neighbouring Elvaston, you may like to take a peek at the discussion here. Jellyman (talk) 18:15, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Derwent Valley Mills
Hi, I've recently started an expansion of the above article and any help expanding it would be greatly appreciated. In particular sourced information regarding Cromford Canal and the Cromford and High Peak Railway would be very much appreciated, as I think I've got the necessary sources to complete the history. I might even end up taking the article to WP:GAC. Also, since it's a World Heritage Site I've changed it's importance to this project from high to top, but feel free to revert it anyone disagrees. Nev1 (talk) 17:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Derbyshire hasn't got a GAC ... we need one or two. I know there is another in dev. Good luck. I'll try and take a look Victuallers (talk) 07:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, the article's now at GAC and is already under review (which is lucky as I couldn't guarantee having the sources used beyond the 20th). Any help with copy-editing etc would be appreciated. I think I've got the content sorted, but any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thanks, Nev1 (talk) 15:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

(Update) The article has now been promoted to GA :-) Nev1 (talk) 15:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's great news! Well done to everyone involved :) Schumi  555  15:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree! at last we have a GA. Well done everyone. I think someone needs to put this on our portal! Victuallers (talk) 19:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Derby
There's been some recent activity on the Derby article that members of this project might be interested in. has been trimming the notable people section (the changes so far). I'm not a fan of such sections as they attract vandalism and have a tendency to sprawl, but I thought members might like to keep an eye on the article and make sure that no unsourced changes are made. Nev1 (talk) 10:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Alliance
I have just thought of an idea that could help to improve this WikiProject, it may seem at first to be slightly odd but just bear with me. I have looked at the counties in the East Midlands and Compared them to the amount of those counties with WikiProjects, they are Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. We all share a common purpose, that is to work on the articles of our county's which includes local history, geography and biographies.

Therefore to help us share methods of research and many other needs (basically 'constructive collaboration' as I call it) I am proposing that we form an alliance, NOT a Merger. I believe an alliance allows us to be independent just as before but in collaboration as well. This could really benefit our WikiProject and I feel we might be the first in Wikipedia's history. I am a member of WikiProject Lincolnshire and have already proposed the idea with relatively positive feedback still coming in and have placed a notice in the WikiProjects England, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire.

95jb14 (talk) 17:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC), a member of WikiProject Lincolnshire.

I suspect that some may see the Wikipedia project as an alliance. How will this improve us? Maybe a competition or two, or some "improvement raids" on other counties might appeal to some? Victuallers (talk) 08:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * As a contributor but not a formal member, I fail to see why. Geographically, my focus is on the High Peak and all the villages around Greater Manchester- the area drained by the Etherow, Goyt and Tame. Putting it simply I am in a different watershed. 70% of my edits are to articles- and time spent keeping up on projects is time I could spend better. If folks want to have an alliance: then shove the other Wikiprojects on the Watchlist, rather than trying to interest the committed in an ever wider set of issues.--ClemRutter (talk) 09:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If that is the way you feel then I will take it as a 'no'. I can see your point but I didn't mean we HAD to watch each others articles 24/7 and punt half of our efforts in to it. I would also ask, in a constructive manner, that you are careful with your tone, ClemRutter, I am not an idiot and don't expect to be spoken to like one! Any way, thank you for your time, 95jb14 (talk) 14:49, 14 June 2009 (UTC).

Derwent Valley Mills fire
I hate to keep banging on about this article, but after the Bath Street Mill in Derby went up in flames there may be activity on the article as they're mentioning it's part of the World Heritage Site. Do we think it's worth making that redlink a redirect to the articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nev1 (talk) 21:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Although there is no mention of the Bath Street Mill in the Derwent Valley Mills article, I believe the redirect should be created as the last paragraph in the article implies to me that the Bath Street Mill is part of Derwent Valley Mills. Maybe add a little information about this to the Derwent Valley Mills article? Above all the redirect should only be created if the situation complies with Wikipedia policy. Schumi  555  21:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My heart fell when I heard the news that a mill in a WHS had been damaged in a fire, I want such an important article to get as much exposure as possible, but not like this :-( I've created the redirect as I'm sure the BBC will have checked their facts and it is part of the site (which does extend into Derby). It wasn't mentioned in the article before as with over 800 listed buildings there wasn't anything that set it apart from the others. Now there's national coverage, I'll try to add something. The name sounds familiar, so I'll take a look at the book I've got. Thankfully I've been too lazy to return it to the library :-P Nev1 (talk) 22:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposal for a mills task force
A few guys have been doing a lot of work on Windmills, and are proposing mills task force on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Historic sites. I have been in on the discussion and see advantages to opening the criteria to include textile mills. Could anyone who is interested on Cotton look over, read the discussion and maybe give a bit of support?--ClemRutter (talk) 17:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Wind mills sounds too niche IMO, but a task force for textile mills in general would be a great boon to sites involved with the industrial revolution. Far too many important sites are of a poor standard, but articles such as Derwent Valley Mills and Murrays' Mills have set a standard and can be used to give editors an idea of how articles can be expanded. Nev1 (talk) 18:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Update As a result of the discussions, WikiProject Mills was formed. As for windmills being a niche subject, can I point you at List_of_windmills_in_the_United_Kingdom? Mjroots (talk) 21:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

A little help please
The Peak District article is up for GA here. It would be great if members here could lend a hand in helping with a few of the improvements which are necessary before the article is passed. Many thanks, Schumi  555  13:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It passed this morning :) A big thanks to everyone involved. That's two GAs now for the project! Schumi  555  09:47, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Importance ratings
Could some one knowledgeable have a look at the importance ratings of all articles. Some parochial items seem to be wrongly tagged Royal Shrovetide Football comes to mind. Then I compare Chesterfield, Glossop and Matlock!--ClemRutter (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes I agree. I think all four articles you have mentioned should be High importance, maybe Royal Shrovetide Football even Mid. I think the trouble is that there is only limited explanation of how the articles should be rated here. For example is Royal Shrovetide Football nationally recognised as it does get a mention on national news once a year when it is played? Schumi  555  13:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC) I think its our view. I'd claim that Ashbourne football is as likely to be recognised as Glossop (Which may not make national news once a year :) ). But no modesty, we don't want 99% "low"s. Victuallers (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Watchlist
Hi everybody, I thought project members might be interested in this link. It's the project's new watchlist which I've created. Hopefully, it should help with staying on top of vandalism and tracking new users who might be interested in joining the project. Nev1 (talk) 21:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Case in point: it's pretty obvious from a quick glance at the watchlist that is putting a lot of work into the River Derwent, Derbyshire, article; has anyone from this project approached him about joining? Nev1 (talk) 21:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The watchlist is great :) I've posted our WikiProject welcome note onto Chris j wood's talk page, hopefully he'll drop by and lend a hand. Schumi  555  22:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Popular pages
I've requested a list of most popular WP Derbyshire articles here which updates monthly and will give us an idea of which articles are being viewed most frequently. Once the list is compiled, it can be seen here. Thanks, Schumi  555  08:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

England at GAC!
Alerting all WikiProject Derbyshire members that England is undergoing a review for WP:GA status. Things you can help with are listed here. Please help if you can... England expects that every man will do his duty.... :) --Jza84 | Talk  16:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Derbyshire to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at WikiProject Derbyshire/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 04:18, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

"Villages" of Derby
At present Allestree, Littleover, Mickleover and Spondon are all included in Category:Villages in Derbyshire. I would contend that while these places started out as separate villages, they have been swallowed up by urban sprawl, and while retaining some "village" characteristics, I would define them today, geographically and politically, as suburbs / districts rather than villages. Assuming that analysis to be true, I would further argue that settlements should generally be categorised by present status only, as if you go back far enough, Derby itself or any other major town or city would have been a village at some point in history, but wouldn't be put into such a category. Thoughts?? Jellyman (talk) 00:20, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree entirely, they should be categorised as suburbs of Derby, rather than villages of Derbyshire. I think their articles should be removed from Category:Villages in Derbyshire, and just be part of Category:Districts of Derby, for example Wilmorton and Alvaston. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schumi555 (talk • contribs) 08:56, 6 November 2009
 * I also agree that this is a sensible change. They are completely contained within the City of Derby boundary, and therefore are suburbs/districts rather than villages.  I suspect the articles will already note the fact that they were originally separate villages. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 12:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes they do, most mention the Doomesday Book in some way - referring to the suburb as a former village. Most also state that they are now suburbs of Derby in their lead. Thanks for signing my comment too :) Schumi  555  20:49, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * In the absence of any objections, I'm going to remove them from the category. Jellyman (talk) 01:55, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

New Mills
For reasons that are too complicated to explain I started to look at this article. I have done a few edits.! I followed the format laid down by WP:UKSettlement group, and then searched for a FA Derbyshire article about a town of a similar size. Failing that it was back to using Wormshill as a model. Groan. So I was wondering whether the group could consider taking up one of the B quality articles, (or even this one) to at least GA, so there is a model for future comparisons.--ClemRutter (talk) 14:11, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Clowne
Hello, I did quite a lot of work on Clowne and wondered if anyone had any ideas about improving it further or at least reassessing it.--J3Mrs (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That's excellent, some great work gone in to considerably improving this article :) It would definately meet the C criteria, and maybe even B. I'll take a look into more detail and see if I can find bits to add. I always find it useful to find other articles which have B or GA status to base the structure on, but I'm struggling to find any villages in Category:GA-Class UK geography articles! Schumi  555  21:46, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * That's what I do too :) but I am rapidly exhausting online sources. I'm just looking at something for Transport but it's easier in the metropolitan authorities. I know it once had two stations and a bus garage but need a source for the garage. Thanks for looking.--J3Mrs (talk) 22:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There might be some useful things in the local library, I'll take a look when I'm next there :) Schumi  555  22:07, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * We probably have some stuff here on the railways but I'm not sure about the buses. I thought I was the only person ever to visit Clowne.--J3Mrs (talk) 22:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha not quite, I've played cricket there several times! I see two railway stations are mentioned in the article, which one would be Clowne South railway station? According to my dad there used to be a bus garage on Cresswell Road, but no idea if there are any references out there to back it up. Schumi  555  22:33, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Not sure about that, will have to consult the rail enthusiast in the family, however I have waited for a bus at the garage, oh for a digital camera thirty years ago.--J3Mrs (talk) 22:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Derbyshire MPs
I have opened a discussion at Categories for discussion on a proposal to merge Category:Current Derbyshire MPs and Category:Past Derbyshire MPs to a newly-created Category:Derbyshire MPs.

The discussion is at Categories for discussion/Log/2010 March 10, where you contributions will be welcome. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Tony Benn
A request has been made for the article Tony Benn to be peer reviwed at WP:Peer review/Tony Benn/archive1. Any comments welcome. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 02:04, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Trip to London
I'm hoping to go to the trip to the British Museum] ... interested? Victuallers (talk) 18:47, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd be very interested, but I'm away in the Czech Republic all that week with Uni :( I'll keep my eye out for future activities :) Schumi  555  21:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Cheshire
The Cheshire portal has been nominated for Featured Portal status. To join the discussion, visit Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Cheshire. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Derbyshire articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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We would like to ask you to review the Derbyshire articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (&diams;) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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Pictures
Have you seen this list of pictures that are in the misc section of picture the past.... and do not miss the event in April which you are invited to help with. i.e. GLAM/Derby Victuallers (talk) 14:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Commons Pictures
A massive upload of 1.5 million images from Geograph is under way. For the first 100,000 or so, the images were categorised using a complex algorithm that was right in 60%+ of cases. There were notable casualties- which were amusing if you were desparate for images and infuriating if you had lovingly sub catted a favorite area and saw it swamped. For instance Hayfield attracted 30 images from Argyll. Glossop was pulling in images from Bamford. A whole issue arose with XXXXX is the name a village and civil parish in XXXX, as the village cat and not the parish attracted the lot. Geograph likes taking photos of each OS square, so there are lots of shots of wild country, consequently the High Peak categories were all over the place. Geograph photos only have a location and one subject cat. Using Devon as a model (it has Dartmoor) and has been done. The following system is being tried. Many new cats will need to be created and described. Each of these descriptions will want to link to a WP article- often the WP article on the civil parish- it is right that each of theses civil parish articles are in the WP category:Civil parishes in Derbyshire. I have created the links for High Peak parishes and created the missing one.... but there are a few more to do. Now, the later images are being uploaded with a template categorys such as Commons:Category:Images from the Geograph British Isles project needing categories in grid SK1270. These are less urgent and much of the hard work may be done by a bot, but again the civil parish will be important. Cat-a-lot is not working with these temlplates yet- but HotCat will.
 * Locate the image in its civil parish- for instance Charlesworth, Hope Woodland.
 * Then give it a cat- based on the Mountain subcatted on the clough- or just use the clough. Take care Wildboar Clough is not Wildboarclough. Crowden is not Crowden vi|lage etc and despair over Featherbed Moss!
 * Try to describe the activity

The good news is that all these images do have a geotag, and the Derbyshire photographers seem to have used WSG84 so they are correct.

I am reporting this as a matter of interest, but asking if Category:Civil parishes in Derbyshire could be hotcatted onto any relevant articles you meet while passing. --ClemRutter (talk) 12:49, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks - will do! Moving the Geograph images saves (and makes) a lot of work Victuallers (talk) 11:07, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Chesterfield GAN
Chesterfield has been nominated for good article status here. There is quite a bit of work to be done on the article, so any comments/help would be much appreciated. Schumi 555  09:41, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

BIG MEETING GLAM WIKI
Do look here. Its April 9th and its local and will bring in people from across the country. Victuallers (talk) 00:15, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Cheshire portal
I have nominated the Cheshire portal for featured portal status. Please join the discussion here. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:26, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Should locations that were historically part of Derbyshire be included in the WikiProject?
For example the village of Stretton En Le Field; it was in Derbyshire until 1897 when it was transferred to Leicestershire; something that also happened to several other neighbouring villages. These villages have spent the majority of their history in Derbyshire - most still have Derbyshire postcodes - so should we be including them in the WikiProject?

Rushton2010 (talk) 19:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I'd argue against it, on the grounds that there isn't a Leicestershire WikiProject- adding a WD banner to the talkpages would give a misleading impression that the villages were still in Derbyshire. Ning-ning (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think it would be misleading; The main pages of the articles obviously state the villages are currently in Leicestershire; besides, no one goes straight to the talk pages on articles: most don't even look at them at all. Also there is nothing stopping us from adding a note to the talk page explaining that we are covering those articles because of their historical association to Derbyshire. Even if there was a WikiProject for Leicestershire, I'd still recommend we take on such articles- the majority of their history is with Derbyshire and, on a practical level, the majority of their records are in the Derbyshire Records Office, not the Leicestershire one. Rushton2010 (talk) 09:38, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

I found a map that I hope clarifies things. If you look at the south of the county; the villages of Appleby Magna, Chilcote, Stretton En Le Field, Measham, Willesley, Donisthorpe and Oakthorpe all form a big Exclave belonging to Derbyshire. There's then smaller exclaves containing single villages; these included Packington, Ravenstone and Sibson. But the map also suggests Normanton Le Heath, New Packington, and the Hamlets of Churchtown and Farmtown (now belonging to the village of Coleorton, also belonged to Derbyshire. All of these were surrendered to Leicestershire in 1897, and Derbyshire gained Overseal, Netherseal, and Swadlincote in return. If you look to the south west border you can see Tutbury was also previously an exclave of Derbyshire, but in that case surrounded by Staffordshire.

My point is, these 14(ish) villages have only been in Leicestershire for little over 100 years. When you're actually writing the history of these villages for their articles it is all Derbyshire. Most of the articles are stubs; so surely the Derbyshire Project is best placed with the knowledge and resources to expand them? Rushton2010 (talk) 10:39, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Suggest you go ahead with adding the banner- doubt if anyone is going to raise any objection. It could be added to Lounge as well- it being next to New Packington. Ning-ning (talk) 20:30, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Please help get Derbyshire ready for the start of the Wiki Loves Monuments competition on 1st September
This September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition Wiki Loves Monuments. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed buildings of significant importance (grades I or grade II*), as recorded by English Heritage. The main external website for competitors can be found here, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people?

In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible buildings are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at Listed buildings in the United Kingdom you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the link to Listed buildings in England, you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the WLM planning table. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented?

Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by English Heritage. These use pre formatted templates (eg EH header) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international Monuments Database.

The data still needs the attention of local editors:
 * The "title" may need wikilinking to a suitable article name (whether we currently have that article or not). If there are several buildings in one street all of the wikilinks point at an article about the street; however each entry has a separate line in the list.
 * The "location" column looks and sorts better if just the parish or town is included (& wikilinked).
 * The "date completed" column sometimes has eg "C19" for 19th century, and "C1850" for c. 1850 when the date is uncertain - these need to be corrected manually.
 * The "grid ref & lat & long" (which is occasionally missing) may be given to 8 characters — only 6 (grid ref) or 5 (lat & long) are really needed.
 * Clicking on the "list entry number" should take you to the data sheet for that entry on the English Heritage database which can be checked if needed for details.
 * The image column should have a picture added if we already have a suitable image on Commons. (N.B. if you are going to be taking photos yourself for inclusion in the competition don't upload them until September)
 * References may be added according to normal WP practice.

For further information, please see [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_United_Kingdom Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom. ]

If you have any queries, please post them not below but on the Organizers' help page on Commons.

Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. '''The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August.

--MichaelMaggs (talk) 06:27, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update
As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at ~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man ) 05:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Long Eaton Stadium
Just to point out I have initiated a discussion at Talk:Recreation Ground, Long Eaton about possibly moving the article to "Long Eaton Stadium", if anyone would care to contribute. Jellyman (talk) 21:34, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Derbyshire moors
I've just created a stub, at Derbyshire moors. Improvements by those with local knowledge would be welcome, please. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:08, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Expert attention
This is a notice about Category:Derbyshire articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 00:08, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Old maps and views of the East Midlands
As you might have seen in the Signpost this week, there's currently a drive to go through the million 19th century images released by the British Library last year, and identify all the maps, with a view to their being georeferenced by BL volunteers, and then uploaded to Commons early next year. As of Sunday night, over five thousand new maps have been identified, with 26.5% of the target books looked at -- but see the status page for the latest figures, and more information.

A part that may specifically interest this project is
 * c:Commons:British Library/Mechanical Curator collection/Synoptic index/England - East Midlands

which currently shows pink templated links for 143 Flickr book pages still to be looked at. (Though there are lots of other parts of England, and indeed of the world, still to be looked through as well).

Any help looking through these would be very much appreciated -- as well as the maps (and ground plans) for tagging, you may well also find other interesting or useful non-map views that may be worth considering or uploading for articles on Derbyshire and the East Midlands.

Thanks, Jheald (talk) 01:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!


Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Why is it so hard to join the Project?
So I clicked on the link on the list of Participants which said 'Click Here To Edit List' and couldn't work out what to do next! I was sure I didn't want to edit the project Template, and it was only by Previewing that page that I then found the link to the Participant table, which I could then edit. Is this a way of ensuring only really keen editors join WikiProject Derbyshire? Or maybe it's one of the reasons why there's a banner at the top of the Project page suggesting this project is inactive. Parkywiki (talk) 01:03, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Local AfD
Please comment at Articles for deletion/B5470 road.  Rcsprinter123    (articulate)  22:33, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Portal:Peak District
Hi, I've just created a portal for the Peak District which may be of interest here. Do feel free to enhance it with new or improved articles or by adding to the links. --Bermicourt (talk) 08:31, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Popular pages report
We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, will post at /Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of. We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:
 * The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
 * The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
 * The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to for his original, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Derbyshire Discovery Days 2017
My former colleagues at Derbyshire County Council and the Derwent Valley Mills World Heritage Site are organising another wonderful series of "Discovery Days" this year. It will run from Saturday 14th October to Sunday 29th October 2017. Details of all events, by date, are available on this link.

It's a wonderful way for anyone interested in the archaeological, industrial or social history of the county to find out more, direct from the experts - and maybe offer to work with them to enhance content on Wikipedia, too! Events are held across the county. Nick Moyes (talk) 08:45, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

New Article Needed: St Mary's Bridge Chapel, Derby
Anyone fancy creating a new article on the Chapel of St Mary on the Bridge in Derby? I was surprised such an old historic building hadn't got an article - maybe its complicated naming has put people off. Maybe it should be St Mary's Bridge Chapel? I gather there is a published book on the Chapel, plus some information sheets within the building itself, but for starters there is this on the Derby Cathedral website, or this on Historic England's website. Any takers? Nick Moyes (talk) 00:52, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

New category proposal: Derwent Valley Mills World Heritage Site
I'd welcome feedback on the usefulness (or otherwise!) of creating a new category of Category: Derwent Valley Mills World Heritage Site. I'm conscious that this large, fairly linear area contains a considerable number of discrete sites within it (Belper North Mill, Cromford Mill, Derby Silk Mill etc), as well as people like George Sorocold, John Lombe and Richard Arkwright who are closely associated with it, plus much of the River Derwent. Visiting any of these articles doesn't reveal any category which ties them all together to the WHS. The main page on the Derwent Valley Mills World Heritage Site states: The site consists of the communities of Cromford, Belper, Milford, and Darley Abbey, and includes 838 listed buildings, made up of 16 Grade I, 42 Grade II*, and 780 Grade II. A further nine structures are Scheduled Ancient Monuments. The buildings are a mixture of mills, workers' housing, and structures associated with the mill communities. The Cromford Canal and Cromford and High Peak Railway, which aided the industrialisation of the area, are also part of the World Heritage Site. So, is this an issue worth addressing and, if so, can anyone suggest a better category name? Nick Moyes (talk) 10:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

External links at Cromford and High Peak Railway
Talk:Cromford and High Peak Railway. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:52, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

University of Derby Editathon: Thursday March 8th 2018 10am-4pm
The University of Derby Library is hosting its first Wikipedia edit-a-thon! In honour of International Women's Day, it will be contributing to the Wikipedia Women in Red project's list of missing articles. Women in Red are volunteers who are trying to fix the gender gap as currently the 1.5 million biographies on Wikipedia contain only 17.38% that are about women. See more details here.

Shortcut to the event page: WP:Derby18

Please feel free to sign up to attend in person or to participate online. Please suggest any Derbyshire women who you think deserve an article, or any other Derby/Derbyshire articles which could be in need of improvement on the day. You don't have to be a female editor to attend - all are welcome, including anyone new to editing on Wikipedia. Experienced editors will be on hand to offer help and advice. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:58, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

People from south Derbyshire category rename
Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_April_1...GrahamHardy (talk) 23:09, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template Transclude lead excerpt.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background
On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you. &mdash; The Transhumanist  07:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:East Midlands England for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:East Midlands England is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:East Midlands England until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 04:38, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Useful tasks: Article assessments, cleanup (and Project page maintenance).


As at late 2019 this Project has built up a backlog of 128 articles which now need some form of assessment.
 * These 49 pages need a quality assessment; ✅
 * These 75 articles need an importance assessment. ✅


 * See WikiProject Derbyshire/Assessment for more information on making assessments.


 * Another useful task would be to update our project page with these recently reviewed FAs and GAs (✅), and also to update Portal:Derbyshire with a few of the most interesting pages or images.


 * And this cleanup listing for WikiProject Derbyshire shows that of the 2033 articles currently in this project, 628 or 31% are marked for some sort of cleanup, with 1005 issues needing addressing in total. Plenty of stuff to go at!

Please consider leaving a note here if you've helped to clear any of these, or if you have ideas for other work this Project should address. Knowing who is actively interested in assessing or re-reviewing Derbyshire articles would be really helpful. This page was recently flagged as 'inactive' by another editor, and it would be a real shame if it stayed that way. So do please get involved again, and maybe there might even be enough interest for a meetup next year! (Pinging all those active editors who've expressed interest in the Derbyshire WikiProject, namely: )


 * Finally, there are a couple of WP:DYK's currently in the pipeline that I'm aware of this month. One is a new article on the Green Man, Ashbourne (created by as a result of a discussion at a recent WP:RFA), and one on Dream Cave in Wirksworth (created by yours truly as a chance result of picking up a past issue  of Derbyshire Life in a doctor's surgery!) Regards to all, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Still interested but a) working full time and b) seem to be spending more of my time in Cheshire. Dave.Dunford (talk) 19:17, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Ideas for new articles about Derbyshire
There is now a new section on our Project page for Ideas for new articles to be created. Please add any suggestions there (with supporting references, if possible). Nick Moyes (talk) 21:45, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

New 'Hot Articles' section
We now have a 'Hot Articles' section, showing the most edited pages related to WikiProject Derbyshire over the previous week.

It was sad to see the topmost edits were to a brand new article about Annie Hall, the former High Sherrif for Derbyshire, who was swept to her death by floodwaters at Rowsley, which (at the time of writiting) are still having serious impacts on parts of our county. Keep safe. Nick Moyes (talk) 08:51, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

New bot to remove completed infobox requests
Hello! I have recently created a bot to remove completed infobox requests and am sending this message to WikiProject Derbyshire since the project currently has a backlogged infobox request category. Details about the task can be found at Bots/Requests for approval/PearBOT 2, but in short it removes all infobox requests from articles with an infobox, once a week. To sign up, reply with and tell me if any special considerations are required for the Wikiproject. For example: if only a specific infobox should be detected, such as infobox journal for WikiProject Academic Journals; or if an irregularly named infobox such as starbox begin should be detected. Feel free to ask if you have any questions!

Sent on behalf of Trialpears (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:34, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

FAC that might be of interest
Featured article candidates/Midland Railway War Memorial/archive1. For anyone who might be interested. All feedback welcome. :) HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 13:04, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Category:Derbyshire articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion
Category:Derbyshire articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 17:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Rolls-Royce Marine Power Operations
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Rolls-Royce Marine Power Operations that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him &#124; talk) 20:35, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)