Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Drag Race/Archive 14

DR Mexico Judge spelling. Oscar or Óscar
Most of the English references to the DR Mexico Judge are to Óscar Madrazo but the Spanish Language Wikipedia page is at Oscar Madrazo. (The difference is whether there is an accent on the capital O). On the one hand, I'd expect that the one with the accent would be correct (as an English speaker might drop it), but OTOH, I'd trust the spelling on the es.wiki. Which is correct? Note, this doesn't just affect DR:M but also Mexico's next top model and other pages.

Also, there *was* a page on en.wiki for him, but WP:PROD'ed in 2014 due to lack of references. (But I think that someone would be able to create a well referenced article on him *just* from 2019 Bravo coverage at this point. ) Naraht (talk) 13:11, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The Spanish-language sources cited on es.wiki include the accent mark, so it seems like RS support its use.  Armadillo  pteryx  15:43, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * So the es.wiki article should be moved? and any en.wiki usages should be changed from O to Ó, correct?Naraht (talk) 18:10, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * That's what it seems like to me. Armadillo  pteryx  18:47, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

I've added the WikiProject Drag Race banner template to the talk page of his bio. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:24, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

All queens for a season...
Looking through, we have articles in *some* wikipedia for all queens in the following seasons: US 12 & 13. AS1-8, Canada 1, Canada vs, Spain 2 (though most are in es.wiki), UK 1,2 & 3, UK vs. Naraht (talk) 02:24, 20 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Now we have Espana 2&3 as well Cornmazes (talk) 02:32, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race Brazil host confirmed
Grag Queen has been confirmed as a host of Drag Race Brazil:
 * https://uk.style.yahoo.com/drag-race-brazil-host-announced-150000865.html

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:46, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Umm, you might want to redirect this article to the draft article I made.. By the way, this is the official name: Draft:Drag Race Brasil. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:03, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * either redirect both this existing article + season 1 to the draft and move it to the mainspace. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 18:21, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @JuanGLP Sorry!, I was just copying over the spelling used in the source and forgot there was an ongoing draft. I was seeing more of "Brazil" in sources but I found a WOW source with "Brasil". I have redirected Drag Race Brazil, and submitted a request for Draft:Drag Race Brasil to be moved into the main space over the redirect at Drag Race Brasil since I cannot do this on my own. I think this should resolve things, though there are already links to Drag Race Brazil which may need to be corrected. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:22, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah no problem, thank you!! 🙏 — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 22:38, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note, at this point, there are each spelling is a redirect to the other in mainspace, which may generate some bot alert, but when we get Draft:Drag Race Brasil into mainspace, I think we should be OK. I'm not sure if Drag Race Brazil as a redirect should be viewed as a misspelling or a translated from another language though. Looking forward to having DR:B on mainspace. (I'm not going to try to fix the current links to the version with the Z until the version with the S makes mainspace, the "helpful" software that I use gets confused)Naraht (talk) 00:54, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ The draft is now in the main space. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 12:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Brasil vs. Brazil can be discussed on the article's talk page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:10, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Discussion started. (I'm on team S)Naraht (talk) 01:30, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've submitted a formal move request at Talk:Drag Race Brazil --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

More feedback needed here if project members are interested. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 12:42, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Update: The queens have been confirmed. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Welp, the discussion closed without a move. Sorry, I tried! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:28, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Translations needed
Here's a list of bios for consideration:

Are any missing? Feel free to add to this list. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:31, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Adriana (drag queen)
 * Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha
 * Bestiah
 * New stub at Bestiah --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:27, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Chanel Anorex
 * New stub at Chanel Anorex --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Diamante Merybrown
 * New stub at Diamante Merybrown --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:43, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Dovima Nurmi
 * New article at Dovima Nurmi --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:10, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Drag Chuchi
 * New stub at Drag Chuchi --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:05, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Drag Vulcano
 * Elecktra (drag queen)
 * Estrella Xtravaganza
 * New stub at Estrella Xtravaganza --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Fontana (drag queen)
 * La Grande Dame
 * Hornella Góngora
 * New stub at Hornella Góngora --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:27, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hugáceo Crujiente
 * I see User:JuanGLP is working on Draft:Hugáceo Crujiente --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:02, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Inti (drag queen)
 * See Inti (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Irene Dubois
 * There's a draft at Draft:Irene Dubois --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:15, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Draft moved into main space. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Juriji der Klee
 * New stub at Juriji der Klee --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:41, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Kelly Roller
 * New stub at Kelly Roller --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:27, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * María Edilia
 * New stub at María Edilia --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:10, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Marina (drag queen)
 * New stub at Marina (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:38, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Marisa Prisa
 * New stub at Marisa Prisa --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:57, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Onyx (drag queen)
 * New stub at Onyx (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:47, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Pink Chadora
 * New stub at Pink Chadora --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:51, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Pitita
 * See new stub at Pitita (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:17, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Pixie Pixie
 * ✅ Sagittaria (drag queen)
 * See Sagittaria (drag queen)
 * Samantha Ballentines
 * New stub at Samantha Ballentines --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:57, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Vania Vainilla
 * New stub at Vania Vainilla --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:27, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Venedita Von Däsh
 * New stub at Venedita Von Däsh --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Visa (drag queen)
 * New stub at Visa (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:56, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Cookie Kunty
 * La Briochée
 * Cornmazes (talk) 02:31, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Update: La Kahena Cornmazes (talk) 19:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Pitita Queen
The enwiki redirect was from Pitita. I've add a redirect from Pitita Queen.Naraht (talk) 06:47, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * But she competed as Pitita. We'll need to determine if she's been called "Pitita" or "Pitita Queen" more often in sources. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I see the page has been moved to "Pitita" at Spanish Wikipedia. I've created a new stub here at ENWP at Pitita (drag queen). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:17, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Pixie Pixie
I have created the article on Pixie Pixie, a contestant on Drag Race Mexico, on the Spanish Wikipedia, in case any editor is interested in translating it into English.


 * Pixie Pixie

Peridotito (talk) 10:00, 18 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:12, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Invites to the project...
I often think that *anyone* who builds a version of a Drag Race Season in a sandbox should be invited to the Project, (In fact I wouldn't object if that was automated)Naraht (talk) 17:54, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month: Rusical
Rusical is the Collaboration of the Month for August.

Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) -- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 03:30, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * We're 1/2 way through the month. I've added some sources, but ideally this entry would have summaries for each series. Improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:32, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race Germany
Drag Race Germany

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:08, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.out.com/gay-tv-shows/drag-race-germany#rebelltitem1

Robin Fierce
New stub: Robin Fierce.

Improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:59, 18 August 2023 (UTC)::


 * I have translated it into Spanish! --Peridotito (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:50, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Synthia Kiss
New stub: Synthia Kiss

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Added what place they finished.Naraht (talk) 18:06, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Eva Le Queen
New stub: Eva Le Queen

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:56, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Added what place they finished.Naraht (talk) 18:06, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race España, season 2 stubs
As noted in the Translations section above, I've created stubs for the following queens:


 * Diamante Merybrown
 * Marina (drag queen)
 * Marisa Prisa
 * Onyx (drag queen)
 * Samantha Ballentines

Improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:45, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race España, season 3 stubs
As noted in the Translations section above, I've created stubs for the following queens:


 * Bestiah
 * Chanel Anorex
 * Drag Chuchi
 * Hornella Góngora
 * Kelly Roller
 * María Edilia
 * Pink Chadora
 * Vania Vainilla
 * Visa (drag queen)

As always, improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:28, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Matraka
New stub : Matraka --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:59, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Keiona
New stub at Keiona Revlon

BTW, see talk page for ongoing discussion re: page name. Thanks!

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:20, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Ashley Madison
New stub: Ashley Madison (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:53, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Bumpa Love
New stub: Bumpa Love --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Barbie Breakout


New stub: Barbie Breakout (host/judge, Drag Race Germany)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:49, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Move request
I've proposed a page move (again) over at Talk:Drag Race Brazil. Participation welcome. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:17, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, Drag Race Brazil is the Collaboration of the Month for September. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:47, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Update: The article has been moved to Drag Race Brasil. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Cristian Peralta
New stub: Cristian Peralta --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:17, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Eve 6000


New stub: Eve 6000 --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Flor
New stub: Flor (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:21, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Gabriella Labucci
New stub: Gabriella Labucci

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:21, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Hollywould Star
New stub: Hollywould Star

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:13, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Use of Tussenvoegsel in RPDR articles.
The Wikipedia article on es.wiki for the Drag Race España Season 2 has the queen's name as Juriji der Klee, *not* Juriji Der Klee. The queen is Belgian and as such, I believe that the en.wiki usage should follow that, as most of the sources from Belgium have the lower case der, which is what would be used in Belgium. (If she was a Dutch Queen, the same name would have an upper case Der.)

However, I think that the true tie-breaker here should be her own site, which I can't reach from work. Could someone please take a look at https://www.juriji.com/ to see which way she uses the Tussenvoegsel? Naraht (talk) 17:35, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * On her website, her name is displayed in all caps, which is not helpful here. On Instagram, her name is written in all lower case, which is also not helpful. Her Facebook, Soundcloud, and YouTube say "Juriji der Klee". Her Twitter says "Juriji Der Klee". --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:53, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Looks like you added the Uppercase redirect when the show was announced, and the lowercase this past Tuesday, so I'm probably bringing up things you've already considered. For her twitter, is there any use of the capital other than in the URL?Naraht (talk) 18:15, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * On Twitter, "Der" for her written name as well as her handle. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:17, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * New stub at Juriji der Klee, but page can be moved. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:41, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks like the title in *all* of the References is Juriji Der Klee. (Capital Der). Not sure if this is enough for it to make sense moving.Naraht (talk) 20:31, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

UK, series 5 queens
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/mediapacks/meet-the-queens-ru-pauls-drag-race-uk-series-5

Drag Race France, season 2 stubs

 * Cookie Kunty
 * Mami Watta
 * Piche (drag queen)
 * Sara Forever

Improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:30, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race France, season 1 stubs

 * La Big Bertha
 * La Briochée
 * La Grande Dame
 * La Kahena
 * Lova Ladiva

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:03, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorting of Queens
I looked over at the frwiki. The queens whose names start with La are sorted *without* the La, so "La Big Bertha" is sorted with B. I think we should do that as well, for both categories and the template.Naraht (talk) 14:34, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:36, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Done both default sorts and template. Also moved Soa de Muse back to S. Battybot changed it so that it sorted on M. Will check to see what is involved it keeping it from doing it again.Naraht (talk) 15:51, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:14, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Minty Fresh
New stub: Minty Fresh (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:17, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Isis Avis Loren
New stub: Isis Avis Loren

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:20, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Drag Race Italia (season 3) queens
The Drag Race Italia (season 3) queens have been announced:
 * MTV

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Amethyst
New stub: Amethyst (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Rankings when a queen was disqualified (US S4 and S12)
The ranking tables for RuPaul's Drag Race (season 4) and RuPaul's Drag Race (season 12) treat Willam and Sherry Pie as if they weren't disqualified; although their outcome is given as 'disqualified', they are listed in the 7th and 4th row respectively and the numbering of other contestants includes them as if they had placed 7th and 4th. The much more common practice when someone is disqualified is to discount them entirely, moving everyone who originally finished after them up a place.

As a secondary issue, I don't know how far we can rely on outside sources for this. One source (which I've since removed) in the season 12 article placed Jan 8th, rather than 7th, but also lists A’keria C. Davenport as having finished '3rd/4th' in season 11. This is how Wikipedia used to list her placement in that season, as she and Silky Nutmeg Ganache placed equally, until I changed it to the more conventional '3rd'. This leads me to think that this source in particular took its rankings from Wikipedia, making its use by Wikipedia self-referential. It may not be the only one, given there isn't an official list of placements. A.D.Hope (talk) 18:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * With Willam, she was eliminated/disqualified in the series, unlike SP. The episode continued with a BTM2, and it was assured someone was going to be eliminated. RuPaul told Willam to step up and told her she was found breaking the rules from production. She was disqualifed and made her 7th place.
 * Unlike for Sherry Pie, she was (originally) in the Top 4. Now of course, VH1 and WOW ultimately disqualified her from the competiton, before the second episode premiered. In the reunion, one the contestants acknownledge Dahlia Sin being in 13th place. And in Season 15, they revealed there would only be a Top 3, which the contestants says the series "haven't had a Top 3 since season 8". Jackie Cox was eliminated at 5th place, making Sherry, Gigi, Jaida, and Crystal, the Top 4 in the series. Though with the disqualification, it made her in 4th place.
 * — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 01:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * See, usually being disqualified would mean not placing at all. Maybe Drag Race operates a system where disqualified contestants retain their places, but we're going to need proof of that as it's unconventional. A.D.Hope (talk) 10:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Miss Fiercalicious


New stub: Miss Fiercalicious

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:45, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Kimora Amour
Kimora Amour has been moved to Justin Baird. Do editors agree?

Please discuss at Talk:Justin Baird

Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:10, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * And moved back...Naraht (talk) 21:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

GA: Loosey LaDuca
FYI, Loosey LaDuca has been promoted to Good article status! Hoping Mistress Isabelle Brooks might be next! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Beth


New stub: Beth (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:16, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Océane Aqua-Black


New stub: Océane Aqua-Black

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:25, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Laila McQueen created


has created Laila McQueen, RPDR S8 .Naraht (talk) 15:35, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Translations needed
Here's an updated list:
 * Adriana (drag queen)
 * Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha
 * Botota Fox
 * Cookie Kunty
 * See Cookie Kunty --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:07, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Drag Vulcano
 * Elecktra (drag queen)
 * Fontana (drag queen)
 * La Grande Dame
 * See La Grande Dame --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hugáceo Crujiente
 * I see User:JuanGLP is working on Draft:Hugáceo Crujiente --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:15, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * La Briochée
 * See La Briochée --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:51, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * La Kahena
 * See La Kahena --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Nicole Gaultier
 * Pixie Pixie
 * Sofía Camará

Feel free to edit/expand. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:15, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Mami Watta


 * See Mami Watta --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:14, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Piche


 * See Piche (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:18, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Sara Forever Cornmazes (talk) 20:30, 1 September 2023 (UTC)


 * See Sara Forever --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:24, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Roll up information
Also as a Roll up of the information above, if isn't clear, eswiki has articles on every single drag queen who has competed in DR:ES. After the stubs that has created, there are three left that enwiki doesn't have in mainspace, all from Season 1: Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha, Drag Vulcano, and Hugáceo Crujiente. Noting that, given that there have certainly been queens in some of the season of RPDR that haven't met notability (Rebecca Glasscock although finishing 3rd in season 1...), I'm honestly curious as to whether all of these will stand. Note, from general comments, enwiki tends to have the tightest notability standards.Naraht (talk) 16:45, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I agree, will be interesting to see if any of these are redirected or flagged for deletion. I will sleep fine at night if any of the pages are lost, but I see no harm in creating stubs when there are entries at other Wikipedia projects. That being said, I very much welcome stub expansions. I just wanted to get the ball rolling on these. I will also be curious to see which of these queens might get more coverage in the near future, once All Stars (Spain) contestants are confirmed. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree, any queen who ends up in DRES:AS should be safe (Curious as to whether the winners in be in AS or not)Naraht (talk) 17:00, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The Drag Race España All Stars cast has been leaked on the spoiler sleuthing subreddit- obviously it’s not confirmed until the release, but they’re usually spot on.
 * Another España queen is also rumored to be on UKVTW2. Cornmazes (talk) 14:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

DeDeLicious
New stub: DeDeLicious

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:50, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Brigiding
New stub: Brigiding --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:24, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

M1ss Jade So
New stub: M1ss Jade So

Obsessed with her! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:34, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Suki Doll


New stub: Suki Doll

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:57, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Sasha Belle
New article: Sasha Belle

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:39, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Drafts as of 8/18
In the Draft Space with both "Drag Queen" "Drag Race" Naraht (talk) 20:38, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Draft:Fontana (drag queen) - Decent length but apparently *no* references
 * The Portuguese version of that article Fontana (drag queen) has 25 (!) references, at least *some* should be able to be copied to the English language draft. (I don't speak Portuguese, I know the languages are different, but I *think* someone who knows spanish might have more of a clue than I on some of these)Naraht (talk) 13:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Draft:Vivacious (drag queen) - Looks better than half the pages for the Queens we do have. Any reason we shouldn't move it immediately (I don't know if the mainspace page could simply be moved over or not)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Draft:Drag Race España All Stars - Not sure specifically what it being waited for, Judges or do we need contestants
 * Draft:Irene Dubois - Do we pull the trigger and move to mainspace?
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Draft:Hugáceo Crujiente - Still there from last time I looked.
 * Draft:Joseph Shepherd - Three declines already, I wonder if it can *ever* show notability.


 * I would prefer if someone else moved the Irene Dubois draft into main space, or at least submitted the draft for review by clicking on the blue button. I am hoping the Vivacious entry will be accepted soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:46, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I am a reviewer, is there any reason I shouldn't review Vivacious? Naraht (talk) 23:52, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Feel free to review Irene and/or Vivacious! Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:54, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Vivacious needs to have the mainspace location removed, I've submitted for that. I'd prefer if someone else submitted Irene so I can review.Naraht (talk) 00:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Naraht ✅ Submitted Irene for review. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:34, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Put in both to be moved since it won't overwrite the redirects to the seasons (the history has gotten too complicated). Both have been done, added back to template.Naraht (talk) 04:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Translations needed
Here's a new uptdated list.


 * Adriana (drag queen)
 * Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha
 * Botota Fox
 * Cookie Kunty
 * Drag Vulcano
 * Elecktra (drag queen)
 * Fontana (drag queen)
 * Hugáceo Crujiente
 * I see User:JuanGLP is working on Draft:Hugáceo Crujiente --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:15, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Nicole Gaultier
 * Pixie Pixie
 * Sofía Camará

--Peridotito (talk) 13:22, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I've created a stub for Adriana (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Cara Melle
An unregistered user has created Cara Melle.

Improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Kate Butch
New stub: Kate Butch

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:40, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Captivating Katkat
New stub: Captivating Katkat

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:31, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

O Bar
Not specifically about Drag Race, but I've created a stub for O Bar, which mentions quite a few queens from the Runiverse. As always, article improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:50, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Gabriella Labucci


See recent changes to Gabriella Labucci + talk page discussion re COI banner. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:15, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Lady Morgana
New stub: Lady Morgana --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:10, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Copper Topp
New stub: Copper Topp --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Sminty Drop
New stub: Sminty Drop --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:38, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Le Fil (drag queen)
New stub: Le Fil (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Arizona Brandy
Another editor has created a page for Arizona Brandy

Improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

The After Shave with Danny Beard
New stub: The After Shave with Danny Beard

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:25, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Alexis Saint-Pete
New stub: Alexis Saint-Pete

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:51, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Princess Poppy


New stub: Princess Poppy (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Malaysia Babydoll Foxx


New stub: Malaysia Babydoll Foxx

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:26, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

So this finishes Season 15?Naraht (talk) 17:15, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Naraht Yes! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Alyssa Hunter
New stub: Alyssa Hunter

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:32, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Punani
New stub: Punani (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:46, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Moon
New stub: Moon (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Scarlett Harlett


FYI, Scarlett Harlett has appeared at the conflict of interest noticeboard:


 * Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard

Related discussion: User_talk:ThaddeusSholto

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:51, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I *think* the editor (presumably the queen, but certainly *not* proven) gets it, but unfortunately, it looks like the reaction is to not come back. :(Naraht (talk) 16:47, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The editor was blocked because of their user name. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:27, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Marcia Marcia Marcia


New stub:

Marcia Marcia Marcia (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * See Talk:Marcia Marcia Marcia (drag queen) for ongoing move discussion. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Page moved to Marcia Marcia Marcia --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:10, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Dudu Bertholini


New stub: Dudu Bertholini

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:03, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Lots of links added. Not sure the last time we did a new page for a judge.Naraht (talk) 13:30, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure if a stub is possible for Bruna Braga. There might be coverage out there, but I've only briefly searched Google for English-language sources and didn't find much. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Chelazon Leroux
New stub: Chelazon Leroux

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:43, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Fantasia Royale Gaga
She is not a Drag Race contestant, but perhaps her translation might be of interest to members of this wikiproject.


 * Fantasia Royale Gaga

Peridotito (talk) 04:50, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Peridotito See stub at Fantasia Royale Gaga --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Vicki Vivacious
New stub: Vicki Vivacious

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Tomara Thomas
New stub: Tomara Thomas

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:11, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Just May
New stub: Just May

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * And I think we have our winner for *most* difficult drag name to track down any unlinked occurances on Wikipedia. I put it into the tool and got everything from Arabic definite article to Ben Carson 2016 presidential campaign to The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn – Part 2 (soundtrack).Naraht (talk) 22:33, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Baby
New stub: Baby (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:49, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Michael Marouli
New stub: Michael Marouli

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Viñas DeLuxe


New stub: Viñas DeLuxe

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:50, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Turing


New stub: Turing (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:27, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Dropping into the Drafts Current
As of June 2022, The following draft space articles contain both the strings "Drag Queen" and "Drag Race"


 * Draft:Fontana (drag queen)
 * Draft:Vivacious (drag queen)
 * Draft:Irene Dubois
 * Draft:Hugáceo Crujiente
 * Draft:Drag Race España All Stars
 * Draft:Drag Race Brasil
 * Request submitted to move into main space --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 12:30, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Draft:Joseph Shepherd
 * Draft:Medusa Venom
 * Draft:Lush Monsoon

In order, four drag queens who have been on the show, two announced Official DR series (sort of surprised we don't have DR:Deutschland), a producer/web personality *somewhat* connected to the show, and two queens who were inspired by. (I tried to do the equivalent in userspace to look for sandboxes, but there are *way* too many copies of the queens in mainspace.Naraht (talk) 19:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The reason why there isn't a DR:Deutscheland, is because the only information we have is about the casting call and its streaming home. I created a draft for DR:Brasil because it was a potential adaptation back in 2017, and it released a teaser (just like DR:México). Sooner or later we could get a host ruveal and we'll move it to the mainspace. Deutscheland hasn't released a single piece of news, yet. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 20:05, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The last three entries (one of which has been deleted) are not particularly relevant to this project. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:42, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Moved into main space: Fontana (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:20, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

DR:UK5
Should it be 10 contestants or 11? Naraht (talk) 06:48, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Technically it's eleven contestants, but due to the SA allegations being allegedly true, the network + production company cut her out like they did to Sherry Pie. Thankfully she was out early on, supposedly they kicked her out in Episode 2. Also, this isn't the first time when the BBC cover up their mistakes.
 * But I believe it should be ten contestants, out of respect for the victims, and there hasn't been any news surrounding the contestant. Sooner or later, if it brings the world's attention and there's credible resources against her and the series, well we just do our job and edit. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 07:05, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * What/who does SA stand for? Irrespective of "respect for the victims etc", the show is being portrayed as 10 contestants, that's what was announced and there's no actual confirmation officially that there was an 11th contestant (or a 12th, which apparently there was due to be but withdrew before production started) or than WP:SYNTHESIS of the editing of the show and speculation. Although said speculation is logical its not factual for wiki. >> Lil-unique1  (  talk  ) — 22:33, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

SA = Sexual Assault. And https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-the-edit-10-10-rupaul-s-drag-race-uk-episode-1-cuts-scenes-involving-crystal-lubrikant and https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-rupaul-s-drag-race-uk-production-staff-accuses-bbc-covering-s-xual-assault-crystal-lubrikant would probably be enough to at least mention her in article.Naraht (talk) 10:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Could use more eyes and voices at Talk:RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 5). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

IAR for Sugar and Spice in the contestants table?
Given that Los Angeles California isn't repeatedly linked, the fact that Sugar and Spice link to the same article, theoretically, one should be unlinked, or theoretically, each should be linked to a separate redirect. But I'm not sure that either answer is superior.Naraht (talk) 17:17, 10 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Duplicate linking is sometimes appropriate in tables. WP:Linking says, "Consider including links where readers might want to use them; for example, in article leads, at the openings of new sections, in the cells of tables, and in file captions." More specifically, MOS:REPEATLINK says, "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers, such as in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, hatnotes, and at the first occurrence in a section." --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Forgot to ping! I'm fine with linking both names in the table. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree. If Sugar and Spice start doing things separately in their lives, then it may makes sense to at least make separate redirects, but for now...Naraht (talk) 22:59, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Halal Bae
New stub: Halal Bae

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:51, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Possibly another COI editor, or even Halal Bae? diff --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Lady Boom Boom
New stub: Lady Boom Boom

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:42, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Jada Shada Hudson
New stub: Jada Shada Hudson

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:16, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Bombae


New stub: Bombae

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Miss Moço
New stub: Miss Moço

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Time for List of Drag Race Italia episodes?
Seeking feedback/help at Talk:List of Drag Race Italia episodes

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:54, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ Check out List of Drag Race Italia episodes! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Starlet
An unregistered editor has created Starlet (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

ill template cleanup.
As a note, if there is a queen drag name in an article because the queen has an article on Spanish (es) wikipedia and one is created in english, there is no need to replace the queen drag name with queen drag name a bot will do that automatically, it runs fairly often.Naraht (talk) 03:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Translations needed
Here's a new uptdated list.


 * Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha
 * Botota Fox
 * Drag Vulcano
 * Elecktra (drag queen)
 * Fontana (drag queen)
 * Hugáceo Crujiente
 * Mademoiselle Boop
 * Nicole Gaultier
 * Paca La Piraña Guest judge in Drag Race España
 * Pixie Pixie
 * Sofía Camará
 * Victoria Shakespears

--Peridotito (talk) 16:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)


 * New stub at Drag Vulcano --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:56, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Peridotito New stub at Victoria Shakespears. Perhaps you'd be interested in translating? --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 20:48, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * See also: stub for Pixie Pixie --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:06, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * See also: stub for Elecktra --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:41, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's no problem! SilkPyjamas (talk) 22:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:23, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Done! SilkPyjamas (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

I think a translation of es:Oscar Madrazo is also needed. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:42, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Least coverage of Snatch Game roles...
DR:Philippines Season 2 had 9 queens with one playing two roles. Of the ten roles, only five are of people who have articles on Wikipedia (not just English Wikipedia, but all of them). Missing are Madam Inutz, Queen Dura, Sassa Gurl, Zenaida Seva, and Dionisia Dapidran-Pacquiao. All five are *mentioned* at some point on Wikipedia. For example, Dionisia Dapidran-Pacquiao is Manny Pacquiao's mother. Yes there is a link for Madam Inutz but as a redirect to Pinoy Big Brother: Kumunity Season 10. (Yes, I guess we could add that redirect)

I'm not sure if they are wiki notable, but it doesn't appear to have affected the results much. For the three at the bottom, one was the person playing two roles that are currently on Wikipedia and two are of people who have entries not on Wikipedia: Sassa Gurl and Dionisia Dapidran-Pacquiao.

So right now a mess...Naraht (talk) 00:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * At first, the article for Sassa Gurl was under template protection. Thankfully the person removed the protection, though I did redirect the article to Drag Den, since she is notable from that series. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 22:13, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Number of New Queens this year?
Anyone have any guesses on the number of queens who will be on one of the RPDR Franchises without having been on one (so basically excluding the All-stars & vs. the World) before for shows premiering in 2023? I did a back of the envelope guess and came up with more than 100.Naraht (talk) 17:24, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


 * 149 is my count, including the rumored cast of CAN4 Cornmazes (talk) 19:39, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds about right, there are 13 National shows in 2023 (DU, BE, BR, CA, FR, DACH, IT, MX, PH, ES, SV, UK & US) which means averaging between 11 & 12 per show. It also means that in order for Wikipedia to keep up, with some countries literally having pages for *all* queens in some languages, we are looking at 2 per week. Back of the envelope list, *Maybe* you could get to twice as many countries, but that is about it. Add Colombia, Chile(return) and Argentina in the Americas, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, India and Thailand(return) in Asia, South Africa and in Europe, Portugal and the Netherlands (return)

Potential Good articles?
Mistress Isabelle Brooks has been promoted to Good status. I'm trying to identify other biographies which might be close to meeting GA criteria with a bit of work. Sugar and Spice seems like an option, but do others come to mind? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)


 * My personal recommendations are:
 * Victoria "Porkchop" Parker
 * Tammie Brown
 * Willam Belli
 * Alyssa Edwards
 * Priyanka (drag queen)
 * Jimbo (drag queen)
 * Endigo
 * Admira Thunderpussy
 * Cornmazes (talk) 01:09, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Kiki Coe
Kiki Coe in Canada's Drag Race season 4 was created by .Naraht (talk) 19:39, 18 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Aurora Matrix
New stub: Aurora Matrix

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:03, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Miss Naomi Carter
New stub: Miss Naomi Carter

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

List of Drag Race España episodes
New list, thanks to User:TAnthony:


 * List of Drag Race España episodes

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:24, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Mention of Rick & Steve
The fact that RPDR is a replacement for "Rick & Steve: The Happiest Gay Couple in All the World" seems appropriate on the US page and maybe on the DR Franchise page, but right now it is part of the history of Drag Race UK, which seems a stretch. An anonymous user deleted it, I reverted, but now I'm not sure.Naraht (talk) 19:14, 15 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Naraht I would pose this question on the article's talk page, so editors can discuss at some point. OK if I archive this section? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:56, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Sure, archive.Naraht (talk) 18:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks! ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Colors changed without consent
Hello, I would like to call your attention to this request since, as you can see in one of the Contestant progress table, someone has changed the code dedicated to queens finishing in the bottom. Previously it was viewed with the color ("lightpink"), while now it is represented by a dark red color ("#E23D28") that is confused with the current red color used for eliminated contestants.

I have tried to solve the problem myself but, currently, I have not been able to find the page used to create or edit the various colour boxes. So I kindly ask to someone more experienced to try to solve the problem and revert the original color of the box. I thank you in advance :) « Ðømīnīk  •  Cåpuån  » 10:04, 27 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Dominikcapuan Would you say this issue is resolved? OK if I archive this discussion? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:54, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was resolved like the next day. Yes, the issue was resolved promptly the day after I wrote the message, I forgot to notify the resolution of the problem. We can proceed with filing the request :) - « Ðømīnīk  •  Cåpuån  » 19:33, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:42, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Banksie
New article: Banksie

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:31, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

"Revenge of the Queens"
New article, courtesy of User:Thecheeseistalking99:


 * "Revenge of the Queens"

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:14, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I hope I did a good job doing justice to this ICONIC episode of television :) Thecheeseistalking99 (talk) 00:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised there aren't more articles about episodes. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:20, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Ginger Johnson
See new article for Ginger Johnson (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 12:54, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * And DR:UK S5 is done (and the actual series is on episode 4, having eliminated only two queens)Naraht (talk) 13:55, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

List of RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under episodes
Another new list, also thanks to TAnthony:


 * List of RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under episodes

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * All of the episode lists have been added to Category:Drag Race (franchise) episode lists which is now a subcat of Category:Lists of LGBT-related television series episodes and thus have been removed from being directly in the larger category.Naraht (talk) 00:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As if I'm going to turn down a chance to reorganize Categories. :) :) :)Naraht (talk) 15:55, 29 October 2023 (UTC)