Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Drag Race/Archive 15

Corazon


New stub: Corazon (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Bernie
New page: Bernie (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:09, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Elecktra


New stub with link to sv.wiki: Elecktra

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Victoria Shakespears
New stub with link to es.wiki: Victoria Shakespears

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Pixie Pixie
New stub with link to es.wiki: Pixie Pixie

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha
New stub with link to es.wiki: Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Gigi Era


New stub: Gigi Era

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Kaos


New stub: Kaos (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:29, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Coco Jumbo


New stub: Coco Jumbo

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:12, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Jojo Zaho
New stub: Jojo Zaho

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:21, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Beverly Kills
New stub: Beverly Kills

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:46, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Yuri Guaii
New stub: Yuri Guaii

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:55, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Pomara Fifth
New stub: Pomara Fifth

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:00, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Aubrey Haive
New stub: Aubrey Haive

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Faúx Fúr
New stub: Faúx Fúr (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:01, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Susan
New stub: Susan (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:30, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Plastique Tiara


See discussion re: notability of Plastique Tiara at Talk:Plastique_Tiara. Participation welcome, if interested. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Update: With the path forward determined, collaboration is welcome at Draft:Plastique Tiara. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ... and we're live! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Dusty Ray Bottoms


New stub: Dusty Ray Bottoms

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:26, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

June Jambalaya


New stub: June Jambalaya

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:46, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Translations needed
Here's a new updated list.

--Peridotito (talk) 11:37, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Botota Fox
 * From working back from the Spanish version, this is one of the Runners up in The Switch Drag Race (season 1), however of our pages (both on SDR:S1 and list of Contestants use "Stephanie Fox". On the Spanish language side Botota Fox, the article is "Botota Fox", the reference in the header is for Stephanie Botota Fox and the Infobox says Stephanie Fox.
 * Mademoiselle Boop
 * For DR:Belgium
 * Nicole Gaultier
 * Judge on the Switch, both seasons 1 and 2.
 * Oscar Madrazo
 * Judge on Mexico's next top model and Drag Race Mexico. Would be notable even without DR.
 * Paca La Piraña Guest judge in Drag Race España
 * And one of the celebrities spoofed for Snatch Game in Drag Race España
 * Sofía Camará
 * Top 4 of both seasons of The Switch.Naraht (talk) 18:52, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Allan Segura Pitcrew member in Drag Race España (Link goes to the bio of another person with the same name)


 * New stub with link to fr.wiki at Mademoiselle Boop. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Gran Hotel de las Reinas 2023 in Madrid
Thanks for uploading so many great images here:


 * commons:Category:Gran Hotel de las Reinas 2023 in Madrid

I invite project members to help categorize and add to Wikipedia entries appropriately. We might consider creating subcategories such as "Hornella Góngora at Gran Hotel de las Reinas 2023 in Madrid", etc. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:25, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Etcetera Etcetera


New stub: Etcetera Etcetera

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:49, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, I've selected Etcetera Etcetera as the Collaboration of the Month for November. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:58, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Pandora Nox
Pandora Nox has won the first season of Drag Race Germany. She should probably have an article. --Peridotito (talk) 06:15, 21 November 2023 (UTC) Naraht (talk) 18:13, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.out.com/gay-tv-shows/rupauls-drag-race-first-cisgender-woman-winner
 * https://www.radiowmw.de/artikel/drag-race-germany-wer-wird-zur-besten-drag-queen-gekuert-1827791.html (though this is coverage from before the final) (In german)
 * https://www.pride.com/drag-queens/drag-race-germany-cast#rebelltitem8 (the meet the queens article from the beginning of the season)
 * https://kurier.at/stars/austropromis/siegerin-von-drag-race-germany-ist-eine-frau-und-kommt-aus-wien/402678850 (In German)


 * Same thing goes for Organzza. Cornmazes (talk) 20:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Created draft! Here it is: Draft:Pandora Nox. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 00:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Moved into main space --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Stub for Organzza --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:55, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Aftermath Shows
I see that the US series mentions the companions shows i.e. Watcha Packin', The Pit Stop, and etc. But I also see that for the adaptations, they also have aftermath shows, examples: The After Shave with Danny Beard for UK, After the Race for IT, and others. Shouldn't they be mention in the adaptations' article? — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 17:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I'd say so! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:36, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Franchise Templates.
Watching what has happened with the template for Drag Race Sweden and the fact that putting the judges in the template has been viewed as inappropriate. At this point, I figure the rule of thumb should be either (one Season with pages plus 4 queens with pages) or (two seasons with pages). It appears that if there are five pages linked to by the template it should be OK.Naraht (talk) 16:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, I requested restoration of the Sweden template. Will request restoration of Template:Drag Race Belgique if a second season is announced. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Having Mademoiselle Boop translated would probably help the situation there.Naraht (talk) 17:16, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Casting for the second season was opened quite a while back, if I remember quickly. I can provide an external link if needed. Cornmazes (talk) 03:06, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * You're right. I should clarify, I meant we should request template restoration once a page is created for Season 2. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Five articles seems to be the usual benchmark. See WP:NENAN which suggests a "rule of five". -- wooden  superman  12:01, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree. But the way the project tends to work Franchises, Queens who win a season are automatically notable (and if they don't have an article one will be created within a week) and if there is enough information to justify a season 2 (which generally includes a list of queens), then that causes a split into a Franchise article, a season 1 article and a season 2 article. So at absolute minimum, when a season 2 page is created, there will be four pages: Franchise, Season 1, Season 2, and Season 1 winner. That's four, but also is a complex enough relationship among the pages that, IMO, a template makes sense. (and someone will have normally created a page for some *other* queen in Season 1 *or* it will be five when Season 2 ends and *that* queen gets an article :) ).Naraht (talk) 14:00, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Template:Drag Race Belgique has been restored. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Really I think this is WP:TOO SOON, Should have waited until it passed the rule of five. Articles are already well linked. -- wooden superman  18:15, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Woodensuperman The season 2 page is being created soon, if you're willing to let this be for now. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, no worries, not going to nominate it for deletion or anything, but we would have survived without this a bit longer... -- wooden superman  18:24, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've just created Susan (drag queen), too --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:29, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

DR templates on Judges pages.
I know that the judges are not supposed to be linked on the Franchise DR pages, the question is whether those templates should be *on* the judges pages. For example, Rhys Nicholson has the Template:RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under template on the page.Naraht (talk) 17:46, 31 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Naraht My understanding is navboxes should only be included on articles using the template. user:Woodensuperman may know otherwise? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I've worked under that *general* rule before. See WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. However, I don't feel the relevant statements there are *hard* rules.
 * Every article that transcludes a given navbox should normally also be included as a link in the navbox, so that the navigation is bidirectional.
 * Avoid adding performances of entertainers into the navboxes for the productions that they appeared in, or crew members into navboxes for the productions they worked on. This includes, but is not limited to actors/actresses, comedians, television/radio presenters, writers, composers, etc. This avoids over-proliferation of navigation templates at the bottom of performers' articles, and avoids putting WP:UNDUE weight on certain performances of an entertainer over others.
 * For the second one, I think that mostly affects the Guest Judges, to make sure that Nancy Pelosi doesn't end up in a DR template, or with one on her page.Naraht (talk) 18:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Absolutely not. This would be against WP:PERFNAV, WP: BIDIRECTIONAL and most importantly WP:UNDUE. -- wooden superman  18:36, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Notability tags
Not sure this was necessary, but an editor has added notability tags to all of the following bios, which appear to be the non-winners of RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under (season 2):


 * Aubrey Haive
 * Beverly Kills
 * Faúx Fúr (drag queen)
 * Hannah Conda
 * Kween Kong‎
 * Minnie Cooper‎
 * Molly Poppinz‎
 * Pomara Fifth‎
 * Yuri Guaii‎

I invite project members to help expand these entries and/or discuss notability on respective talk pages. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:22, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Just as a start, I agree with the Notability question on Aubrey Haive. (Haven't looked at all of them) Right now the page about her shows nothing about Notability other than having been on DR:DU. That seems to be a textbook reason for removal. I wouldn't even be able to vote in favor of keeping if it came up for Deletion.Naraht (talk) 22:27, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Season 16
Hello, Hello!

It's that time of year, and I created a draft for Season 16 of Drag Race US. We could expect the cast RuVeal soon this month! Here is the draft, and happy editing! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 13:53, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks! RuPaul's Drag Race (season 16) already exists, so you might need to copy over the markup or submit a move request. I'm not able to move the page over the redirect. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:41, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I just copy over the markup. Meet the Queens is premiering today at 11AM (EST). — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 15:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:34, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Denim
New stub: Denim (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:28, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Max
New stub: Max (drag queen) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Category for the queen Redirects?
Do the redirects that we generally create for all queens for a new season of RPDR get put into the Category for Contestants in that countries edition of Drag Race or only the ones with articles? For example, Kam Hugh (from Season 1) is a redirect to DR:FR:S1, but is not in Category:Drag_Race_France_contestants. OTOH Sara Forever (from Season 2) is a redirect to DR:FR:S2, but *is* in Category:Drag_Race_France_contestants. (Assume we are *not* talking about the winners of the seasons who generally have articles and go into a subcat for winners) Naraht (talk) 14:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Deadnames advice.
I'm sort of split on the following. The guidance on WP:DEADNAME is "If a living transgender or non-binary person was not notable under a former name (a deadname), it should not be included in any page (including lists, redirects, disambiguation pages, category names, templates, etc.), even in quotations, even if reliable sourcing exists."

Let's say that you had a queen on RPDR:Season 5.5 (picking a number) who was born James Smith, and participated in RPDR under the drag name Patty Bellima. She finished 2nd and was the winner of Miss Continental the year prior to the filming. So they are definitely Notable. Two years after the season was broadcast, they transitioned and took the legal name Patty Bellima. The Queen was notable *before* they changed their name, so in the two years after the season was broadcast, having the article start out Patty Bellima (the Drag name of James Smith). Should the name James Smith be dropped after they transition? (Let's say that there are good references on the birth name.) I'm quite willing to take this to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography (which is the talk page for the article that WP:DEADNAME is a redirect to) But I thought I'd ask here. (This isn't quite Carmen Carrera's situation but close.Naraht (talk) 22:04, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Detox move request
I've proposed a move request at Talk:Detox Icunt. Discussion participation welcome!

Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Trinity Ruins Christmas: The Musical
New article: Trinity Ruins Christmas: The Musical

Could be a fun holiday collaboration --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:27, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Luna DuBois
New stub: Luna DuBois

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Drag performers from other competitions
The translation of these articles could be of interest to some members of this Wikiproject.


 * Toddy (drag king) (Winner in Call Me Mother)
 * Sigourney Beaver (Contestant in The Boulet Brothers' Dragula)
 * Bitter Betty (Contestant in The Boulet Brothers' Dragula)
 * Formelda Hyde (Contestant in The Boulet Brothers' Dragula)
 * Dahli (Winner in The Boulet Brothers' Dragula)
 * Monikkie Shame (Contestant in The Boulet Brothers' Dragula)
 * Liza Zan Zuzzi (Contestant in La Más Draga)
 * Morfina (drag queen) (Contestant in Regias del Drag España)

--Peridotito (talk) 05:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Sisi Superstar
New stub: Sisi Superstar

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:49, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

The Girlfriend Experience
New stub: The Girlfriend Experience (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:39, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

The Jinkx and DeLa Holiday Show


Not specifically about Drag Race, but related, if any project members are interested:


 * The Jinkx and DeLa Holiday Show

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Does this (and the one below this) belong on the PRDR Template?Naraht (talk) 19:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Nah, the tour is not specifically affiliated with Drag Race or Voss or WOW. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Miss Moço?
Are these images of Miss Moço?

If so, we should categorize at Commons and update her biography.

-- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, that’s her. Cornmazes (talk) 06:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've created commons:Category:Miss Moço --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 06:29, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Milan, Dida Ritz, and Lineysha Sparx wikipedia page
I'm still newish to wikipedia. I made my account just to add stuff to be more spefific for some aritcles like where a famous NYC resident grew up because people from NYC tend to go "i'm from Harlem" or "I live in Gravesend" if other people know those neighborhoods. I just started making pages now

I created the Laila McQueen wikipedia page because lately, queens like Kandy Ho and Vivacious gotten their own wikipedia pages recently and Laila has done a lot and I was shock to see that she didn't have her own page yet knowing that she's won an emmy. I think a few more queens that deserve their own are Milan and Dida Ritz, both from season 4 and Lineysha Sparx from season 5. Milan (who goes by her government name Dwayne Cooper) is now a Broadway star while Dida and Lineysha was very underrated preformers and a lot of fans love them. I have some other girls I feel like should have their own more but that could just be me being a fan. MiitomoChris (talk) 21:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Welcome! You did the heavy lifting on the Laila McQueen page. I put some comments on how Laila McQueen could be improved,, a heavy editor on this project did a lot of upgrades to the references and elsewhere, take a look and the difference.


 * My suggestion for most of these is that you start them in Draftspace. One of the more experienced editors can easily move something from Draftspace for a queen where that page has only been a simple redirect. We can handle other situations (if there have been other edits to the article/redirect), but it gets complicated. For Milan, I've seen things under Dwayne Milan, Milan and Dwayne Cooper. If she's actively getting gigs on Broadway under Dwayne Cooper, the Wikipedia article may belong there. Broadway isn't particularly a place that *forces* the government name, For ex., Jinkx Monson is definitely identified under that name during her runs on the musical Chicago, I haven't see any mention as the queen being "Jerick".


 * As a note, in general a queen has to have done *something*, generally notable other than be a contestant on Drag Race for a page to exist. (There are pages for queens who've participated in one of the Franchise that exist, but I'm not sure I'd be able to defend if it came up for Deletion). Laila has an Emmy, that's clearly enough, For Milan, I'm not sure her time on Broadway is enough, but I'm willing to take a look. For the other two, I'm not sure. (I think they were in low budget movies, but I don't think that's enough).Naraht (talk) 04:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I've started DiDa Ritz --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:15, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * See Dwayne Cooper (Milan) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:33, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * they look good! thank you! MiitomoChris (talk) 15:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

How many queens with wikipedia articles under *birth* name?
Given the discussion of Kimora Amour, I'm wondering for how many of the queens, the article is under the name they "had at birth" (which is, in most cases, their "Boy Name"). This is not the same as which ones are under their legal names, because I believe some of the queens who have transitioned have taken their Drag name as their new legal name.

The only ones that I've found at least from the US are Derrick Barry, Willam Belli (who participated as Willam) and Kelly Mantle. I seem to remember that when we were talking about sorting names for Drag Queens that there was a "last part" of a name that two queens shared, but in one case it was their actual last name and in the other it was simply part of their drag name. (Not Brown, O'hara or Davenport apparently) (Chad Michaels *might be who I was thinking of, but that's not their legal name (Chad Michael Storbeck)) Naraht (talk) 21:42, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Only a redirect article currently, but Michael Marouli. Also, Ilona Verley, Cristian Peralta, and Joe Black. Cornmazes (talk) 23:57, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Una Navidad con Samantha Hudson
It is not related to the Wikiproject, but it could be of interest. Supremme de Luxe, Pupi Poisson, Hornella Góngora, Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha and Diamante Merybrown are part of the cast. Peridotito (talk) 16:33, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Una Navidad con Samantha Hudson


 * Why not make WikiProject for all drag? @Another Believer, what do you think? We just got to let everyone know on whoever worked on drag! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 16:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @JuanGLP There was limited interest in WikiProject Drag at WikiProject LGBT studies. I am not convinced the project is needed at this time, without a strong demand. Folks wanting to discuss drag can easily do so at WikiProject LGBT studies. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:39, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Redirects to episode titles.
I was moving redirects from DR: Belgique to DR: Belgique Season 1. I noticed that there are a number of redirects to episode names, for example, L'émission qui vous déshabille. In general, do these make sense to have? I picked a more well known TV-show (M*A*S*H, I'm old. :) ) and picked a random episode "The Price of Tomato Juice", no redirect. I know redirects are cheap, but still... (this won't be a problem for a season 2 or later, since the redirects won't have to be changed)Naraht (talk) 01:30, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Naraht OK if I archive this section? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure. If no one cared, no one cared.Naraht (talk) 16:05, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Night of the Living Drag
Another stub for another holiday show:


 * Night of the Living Drag

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Minnie Cooper?
I labeled these Minnie Cooper:

If I'm correct, we can removed her from the above list of unillustrated bios. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Another Believer, yup! This is Minnie Cooper, she has the exact outfit from DragCon LA. Source. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 03:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Marked as ✅ in above list. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Drag Isn't Dangerous
Drag Isn't Dangerous is nominated for GA status, any improvements are welcomed! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 19:02, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Love seeing attempts to promote drag-related entries. Good luck at GAN! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you @Another Believer! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 14:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * How does one speed up the review process? I’ve only submitted one, Alaska Thunderfuck, and its sat in good article nominations since July. Cornmazes (talk) 19:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I've also waited many months for reviews at GAN. Just depends on who's volunteering to review, their interests, if any backlog drives are held, etc. Sometimes I ask for reviews at relevant WikiProjects. I don't do GA reviews, but some editors are more willing to review your nomination if you complete reviews, if that's something you're interested in doing. Patience is a virtue! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I was just confused, since I’ve seen quite few submissions (including some of your own, lol) be reviewed in days or even hours- I wanted to know how to crack the code xD Cornmazes (talk) 03:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Some editors might be more willing to take on some of my nominations because they see I've been through the process so many times before, or even because we've collaborated before. Still, I've waited a long time for some nominations to get picked up many times, don't worry! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You might also consider requesting a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors for articles you intend to nominate for Good article status. I think some editors, when they are considering which submissions to review at GAN, might be more interested if they see that the article has already gone through a review of some sort. Just a thought! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * We got it! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 22:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Great work! I love seeing drag-related entries promoted. Congrats! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Xunami Muse
Here are some sources for a future article on Xunami Muse


 * https://thotyssey.com/2019/03/13/on-point-with-xunami-muse/


 * https://sg.news.yahoo.com/drag-opened-world-opportunities-xunami-150807548.html


 * https://www.last.fm/music/Xunami+Muse+Talks+About+Kandy+Muse%E2%80%99s+Impact


 * https://pagesix.com/2022/04/08/drag-performance-suffers-shoe-mishap-at-designer-laquan-smiths-bash/


 * https://ew.com/rupauls-drag-race-season-16-cast-revealed-8407797

--Peridotito (talk) 12:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Check Draft:Xunami Muse! 😊 — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 04:14, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @JuanGLP Let me know if you need help moving the draft into main space when you're ready, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Help identify people at RuPaul's DragCon LA 2023
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The fact that they’re on the pink carpet not during the Queen's Walk suggests that they may just be a random "local girl", so to speak. Cornmazes (talk) 22:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You're probably right, I didn't look in the background close enough. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It may includes the picture with the two queens inbetween Brooklyn. I thought they were from Down Under or the Boulets (out of spooky), but they may be local girls. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 23:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I've been told that it's Serena ChaCha, but I have no idea.--Peridotito (talk) 23:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I don’t think Serena wears foam wigs. Cornmazes (talk) 00:59, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I can't find a match by googling "Serena ChaCha"+"DragCon". I'll archive this section in a few days if no one else weighs in. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Lina Galore
Lina Galore has won the third season of Drag Race Italia. Here’s some sources I dug up for anyone wanting to create a stub:

Cornmazes (talk) 01:42, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * https://thecorner.com/us-en/line-galore-ac
 * https://www.nofunzine.it/nightclubbing-6-giovanni-montuori-larte-della-gioia/
 * https://www.mtv.it/news/a8mfd4/drag-race-italia-ecco-chi-sono-le-drag-queen-della-nuova-stagione-in-arrivo-su-paramount


 * Improvements welcome at Lina Galore --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:18, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Aimee Yonce Shennel
New stub: Aimee Yonce Shennel

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 08:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Melissa Bianchini
New stub: Melissa Bianchini

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 08:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Venus
New stub: Venus (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:19, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorting by "last name" at Wikimedia Commons
Yikes! How did so many of these entries get sorted by "last name" inappropriately?!?


 * commons:Category:RuPaul's Drag Race contestants

Seeking help to sort entries by first name --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:57, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What was decided on Derrick Barry, I believe that is his legal name.Naraht (talk) 22:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't be too bothered sorting Derrick Barry as "Barry, Derrick", but, when the vast majority of entries are sorted by first name I think consistency might be best. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:01, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Making a list so we can look at them all as I go through and fix the others.Naraht (talk) 23:03, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorted by last name?

 * Derrick Barry
 * Willam Belli
 * Carmen Carrera - I believe she has completely transitioned and taken her former drag name as her legal name, therefore it should sort as Carrera, Carmen correct?
 * Perhaps by default sort, but for commons:Category:RuPaul's Drag Race contestants specifically, we can elect to sort by first name because this is generally how they are referred to on the show. The same is true here at English Wikipedia: Derrick Barry is sorted by "Barry" by default, but not within Category:RuPaul's Drag Race contestants. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:25, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
 * For these three, I had the entire cat follow the overall default sort except for the RPDR cat. I then went and looked at the Drag Race winners, and Raja Gemini was alphabetized under 'A', for her birth last name (pulled from Wikidata) of Amrullah. I overrode that. When I get a chance I'll take a look at the other Franchises. Drag Race Espan~a appears to have a few queens who are alphabetized under birth name (and since they are spanish, that involves calculating Patronymic and Matronymic.)


 * In general, the correct fix is change to  and make sure there are no DEFAULTSORT entries after that.Naraht (talk) 23:42, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month parameter in Template:WikiProject Drag Race
Just an FYI to fellow project members: User:MSGJ has added a 'cotm' parameter to Template:WikiProject Drag Race. Here's an example of how the parameter can be used instead of manually adding COTM banners. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I have also created a category for all the CotMs: Category:WikiProject Drag Race collaboration of the month. Does this look okay? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @MSGJ I think so, yes! Thank you for continuing to populate the category. I'll keep an eye on your progress and let you know if I see any errors. Thanks for your help here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @MSGJ I see you went with Category:WikiProject Drag Race collaboration of the Month. For caps consistency, could we maybe go with Category:WikiProject Drag Race Collaboration of the Month? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes of course. Not sure what I was thinking there! &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:36, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @MSGJ Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Contestant articles without images
Here’s the list of queens that do not have an image on their article. Someone else can alphabetize this (NOTE: I ended up doing it anyways, lol) or add any other razzle-dazzle if they want, but.. yeah, here’s this!


 * Aimee Yonce Shennel
 * Alexis Saint-Pete
 * Alisa Summers
 * Amanda Tori Meating
 * Anastarzia Anaquway
 * Anetra
 * Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha
 * Ashley Madison (drag queen)
 * Asttina Mandella
 * Aura Eternal
 * Aurora Matrix
 * Baby (drag queen)
 * Bandit (drag queen)
 * Banksie
 * Bernie (drag queen)
 * Black Peppa
 * Brigiding
 * Brita Filter
 * Bumpa Love
 * Captivating Katkat
 * Cara Melle
 * Chelazon Leroux
 * Copper Topp
 * Cristian Peralta
 * Crystal (drag queen)
 * DeDeLicious
 * DeJa Skye
 * Denim (drag queen)
 * Divina de Campo
 * Dovima Nurmi
 * Drag Couenne
 * Drag Vulcano
 * Dwayne Cooper
 * Elecktra Bionic
 * Elektra Fence
 * Elektra Shock
 * Ellie Diamond
 * Elliott with 2 Ts
 * Enorma Jean
 * Faúx Fúr (drag queen)
 * Flor (drag queen)
 * Fontana (drag queen)
 * Gala Varo
 * Ginger Johnson (drag queen)
 * Ginny Lemon
 * Gothy Kendoll
 * Halal Bae
 * Hollywould Star
 * Hugáceo Crujiente
 * Icesis Couture
 * Imaa Queen
 * Inti (drag queen)
 * Isis Avis Loren
 * Jada Shada Hudson
 * Jaremi Carey
 * Joe Black (drag queen)
 * Jojo Zaho
 * Jonbers Blonde
 * Juice Boxx
 * Just May
 * Kahanna Montrese
 * Karen from Finance
 * Kate Butch
 * Kelly Heelton
 * Kelly Roller
 * Kiara (drag queen)
 * Kiki Coe
 * Kimmy Couture
 * Kitten Kaboodle
 * La Big Bertha
 * La Diamond
 * La Grande Dame
 * Lady Morgana
 * Lashauwn Beyond
 * Le Fil (drag queen)
 * Lina Galore
 * Lineysha Sparx
 * Love Masisi
 * Luna DuBois
 * Luquisha Lubamba
 * M1ss Jade So
 * Mademoiselle Boop
 * Margaret Y Ya
 * Matraka
 * Max (drag queen)
 * Melinda Verga
 * Melissa Bianchini
 * Mercedes Iman Diamond
 * Michael Marouli
 * Miss Naomi Carter
 * Monica Beverly Hillz
 * Natalia Pliacam
 * Naysha Lopez
 * Nina Flowers
 * Organzza
 * Pandora Nox
 * Pixie Pixie
 * Pixie Polite
 * Pythia (drag queen)
 * River Medway (drag queen)
 * Robbie Turner (drag queen)
 * Sagittaria (drag queen)
 * Scaredy Kat
 * Scarlet Adams
 * Sherry Pie
 * Sisi Superstar
 * Sister Sister (drag queen)
 * Starlet (drag queen)
 * Susan (drag queen)
 * The Girlfriend Experience (drag queen)
 * Tomara Thomas
 * Vanda Miss Joaquim (drag queen)
 * Venus (drag queen)
 * Vicki Vivacious
 * Xilhouete
 * Xunami Muse
 * Yuri Guaii

Cornmazes (talk) 22:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Wow! I don't know how you did this but thanks! Very helpful --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I went through every. Single. Article. 0/10, do not recommend 😭 Cornmazes (talk) 23:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Hopefully we can make the list a lot shorter by the end of the year. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hopefully.. but knowing the amount of seasons that are going to premiere this year, we’ll probably gain as many as we lose. Staying optimistic, though! Cornmazes (talk) 23:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I kinda like the constant stream of new biographies. Shows the diversity of drag and humanity in general! :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh of course, same here! Cornmazes (talk) 01:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for alphabetizing the list. I've done some additional formatting for easier viewing. Would be great if we could keep this up to date over time, removing entries when images are found and of course adding as new unillustrated bios are created. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:53, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Fellow project members, would it be helpful if I pinned the list of unillustrated biographies at the top of this page, for continued updating? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:02, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I wouldn’t object! Maybe we could also make a list of queens who also need better-quality images as well? cough Coco Montrese cough Cornmazes (talk) 18:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, since at least one other project member is interested, I've collapsed the list of entries in this section and copied a pinned version at the top of this page. I'm not sure what to do about the stray " ", though. If we decide the list isn't particularly helpful, or is in the way, I'm fine removing. -- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 18:29, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Goals for 2024
Do any project members want to share any goals for WikiProject Drag Race in 2024?

I have some ideas:
 * Goal of 1 Good article per month = 12 Good articles for 2024
 * Goal of translating Good articles into other languages
 * Creating a list of unillustrated contestant biographies ✅!
 * Goal of promoting 1 article to Featured status

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:56, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I can do the unillustrated contestant bio list ^^ Cornmazes (talk) 21:36, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:47, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Lineysha Sparx
Lineysha now has a page on the spanish version.

Lineysha Sparx

--Peridotito (talk) 21:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Ditto English: Lineysha Sparx --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:19, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Rita Menu
New stub: Rita Menu --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:09, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Essential, Vol. 3
New stub: Essential, Vol. 3

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:51, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Bring Back My Girls
Filmed at RuPaul's DragCon, Ts Madison's WOW show Bring Back My Girls reunites contestants from various branches of the Runiverse. I don't feel like I see this show mentioned in many Filmography tables. Would anyone be interested in taking on the task of updating queen bios with this show? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I did create a draft article for this series! Draft! — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 03:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, great! Thank you. It'll take some time to build out, but I hope eventually the article will list participants for each episode. This'll help with knowing which biographies to update, too. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:47, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Another Believer, I think the article is ready for the mainspace. What do you think? — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 04:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @JuanGLP ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * All done! The Instagram account has also revealed the lineup of episodes and guests for season three, which will be filmed at DragCon UK later this month here.
 * The lineup includes:
 * RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 5): Alexis Saint-Pete, Banksie, Cara Melle, DeDeLicious, Ginger Johnson, Kate Butch, Michael Marouli, Miss Naomi Carter, Tomara Thomas, and Vicki Vivacious.
 * Drag Race España (season 3): Bestiah, Clover Bish, Drag Chuchi, Maria Edilia, Pink Chadora, Pitita, and Visa. Co-hosted by Choriza May.
 * Drag Race Belgique season 1: Amanda Tears, Brittany Von Bottoks, Drag Couenne, Edna Sorgelsen, Mademoiselle Boop, Mocca Bone, Peach, Susan, and Valenciaga. Co-hosted by Vanessa Van Cartier.
 * RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 4): Black Peppa, Cheddar Gorgeous, Copper Topp, Dakota Schiffer, Danny Beard, Baby, Jonbers Blonde, Just May, Le Fil, Pixie Polite, Sminty Drop, and Starlet.
 * Drag Race Italia (season 2): Aura Eternal, Gioffré, La Diamond, La Petite Noire, Narciso, Nehellenia, and Tanissa Yoncè. Hosted by Priscilla.
 * Drag Race France (season 2): Cookie Kunty, Ginger Bitch, Kitty Space, Moon, Rose, Sara Forever, Piche, and Vespi. Hosted by Nicky Doll.
 * Drag Race Germany season 1: Barbie Q, Kelly Heelton, LéLé Cocoon, Loreley Rivers, Pandora Nox, The Only Naomy, Victoria Shakespears, and Yvonne Nightstand. Hosted by Barbie Breakout.
 * I suppose we can expect a late 2024-early 2025 release for these episodes, I would think? Cornmazes (talk) 05:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe the live-tape for the UK might be release late 2024, with the LA live-tape will be released in 2025. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 07:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Biographies checklist
This is a checklist for adding mention of Bring Back My Girls to queen bios:
 * Season 1, Episode 1 ✅
 * Season 1, Episode 2 ✅
 * Season 1, Episode 3 ✅
 * Season 1, Episode 4 ✅
 * Season 1, Episode 5 ✅
 * Season 1, Episode 6 ✅
 * Season 1, Episode 7 ✅
 * Season 2, Episode 1 ✅
 * Season 2, Episode 2 ✅
 * Season 2, Episode 3 ✅
 * Season 2, Episode 4 ✅
 * Season 2, Episode 5 ✅
 * Season 2, Episode 6 ✅

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:28, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * For Bring Back My Girls S2E6, it looks from the list there that it is both queens from UKS3 and UKS4, is that correct?Naraht (talk) 13:54, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes! For series three, Kitty Scott-Claus, Victoria Scone, Vanity Milan, Ella Vaday. (I don't remember who else.) For series four, it's just Cheddar Gorgeous and Sminty Drop. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 14:03, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I just use S, easier not to have to remember which countries use Series. :) Naraht (talk) 14:39, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Since Bring Back My Girls is now up to date and the show has been added to the biographies of all participants, I will archive this section. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Canada's Drag Race season 4 winner
Venus has won the fourth season of Canada's Drag Race against Aurora Matrix! Denim and Nearah Nuff placed 3rd/4th. Cornmazes (talk) 02:31, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * New page for Nearah Nuff --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:08, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

UK vs the World
A second season of UK vs the World has been announced via the BBC and WOW! The winner will also receive a cash prize! Source. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 13:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I've forked out RuPaul's Drag Race: UK vs the World (series 1) from RuPaul's Drag Race: UK vs the World. Help wanted to clean-up both pages, thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, new stub at RuPaul's Drag Race: UK vs the World (series 2) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:56, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The rumored cast is said to contain:
 * Arantxa Castilla-La Mancha (España 1)
 * Choriza May (UK 3)
 * Gothy Kendoll (UK 1)
 * Hannah Conda (Down Under 2)
 * Jonbers Blonde (UK 4)
 * Keta Minaj (Holland 2)
 * La Grande Dame (France 1)
 * Marina Summers (Philippines 1)
 * Mayhem Miller (season 10 and All Stars 5)
 * Scarlet Envy (season 11 and All Stars 6)
 * Tia Kofi (UK 2)
 * Cornmazes (talk) 19:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Added table for "Series overview" and more info onto the main article. Original poster image for series one should be in the forked out article. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 19:47, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Probably too late to put the Genie back into the bottle, but in general, we've waited on creating new season/series pages until we had official lists of queens.Naraht (talk) 19:58, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we can't really put in rumored contestants if they're not announced. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 20:02, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I assume Keta Minaj will quality for an entry when the cast is confirmed (assuming aforementioned list is accurate). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:35, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ Keta Minaj --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:02, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

UK vs The World 2
The cast has been announced! Peridotito (talk) 13:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Could someone add the cast to List of Drag Race contestants, please? Cornmazes (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Cornmazes FYI, this has been ✅. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because I added it, lol Cornmazes (talk) 19:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Cornmazes Oh! Thank you! Sorry, I didn't look at the article history, I just saw this discussion and wanted to share an update. I will archive this section soon. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem! ^^ Cornmazes (talk) 20:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Dawn
New stub: Dawn (drag queen)

Added to unillustrated bios list at top of page, too.

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


 * An image was just added to the page, but I don’t think its public domain or fair use.. the Commons uploader also only lists the source to be Dawn’s Fandom Wiki page. Cornmazes (talk) 20:21, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It'll be deleted from Commons, and then Wikipedia by a bot. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

"HERstory of the World"
New article about an episode and Rusical: HERstory of the World

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:49, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

"Joan: The Unauthorized Rusical"
New stub: "Joan: The Unauthorized Rusical"

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Q
New stub: Q (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:13, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Sapphira Cristál
New stub: Sapphira Cristál

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:13, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Plane Jane
New stub: Plane Jane

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:14, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Geneva Karr
New stub: Geneva Karr

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:32, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Hershii LiqCour-Jeté
New stub: Hershii LiqCour-Jeté

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:55, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Megami
New stub: Megami (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Ivanna Drink
New stub: Ivanna Drink

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Mhi'ya Iman Le'Paige
New stub: Mhi'ya Iman Le'Paige

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Plasma
New stub: Plasma (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Morphine Love Dion
New stub: Morphine Love Dion

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Mirage
New stub: Mirage (drag queen)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

The Switch Drag race redirects...
It looks like we are missing at least some of the Switch Drag Race redirects, due to the fact that in the translation requests, the English is Red, not Blue, is there a reason, or did we ust create redirects with slightly different names than in Spanish?Naraht (talk) 01:02, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Naraht Feel free to create whatever redirects you feel are appropriate. OK if I archive this section? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Request: Whitelisting a link for Sisi Superstar
I’m working on additions to Sisi Superstar’s article, but a particular reference I dug up that has a good chunk of info is flagged by Wikipedia for its domain being “.xyz”. I submitted the link for whitelisting at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist over two weeks ago, but with no response. Does anyone know how to speed up the process or an alternative solution? I’m getting a bit antsy, as I’d like for the link to be cleared before I make my other planned edits. For reference, this is the link: https://liminul.1xyz/who-is-sisi-superstar/ (REMOVE THE 1 FROM THE DOMAIN, WIKI FLAGS IT OTHERWISE) it is an independent magazine that is part-interview, part-biography, which would make it a reliable source (as Sisi is involved in the article’s production).

Thank you in advance! Cornmazes (talk) 05:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Sorry, not sure. Patience is a virtue. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Cornmazes Not sure anyone else has suggestions, so ok if I archive this section for now? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Sure, I made other improvements to the article, anyway. Cornmazes (talk) 18:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposed changes at Drag Race (franchise)
See new discussions re: Drag Race (franchise):
 * Talk:Drag_Race_(franchise) ✅
 * Talk:Drag_Race_(franchise) ✅
 * Talk:Drag_Race_(franchise) ✅
 * Talk:Drag_Race_(franchise) ✅

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:18, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Runner(s)-up
After dealing with a IP edit on Season 9. Is it correct that runners up in the infobox and the progress trackers does *not* apply to anyone eliminated earlier in the final episode, but *only* to those queens whose name could have come out of RuPaul's mouth when the final winner was announced. (So that in Season 9 only Peppermint is the runner-up, with Trinity and Shea Coulee having been eliminated in earlier lip-syncs. Naraht (talk) 15:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Naraht, you're right. Shea and Trinity were eliminated making them place in 3rd place. Peppermint is the runner-up. — JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 23:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Naraht@JuanGLP OK if I archive this section? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Good.Naraht (talk) 20:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)