Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music/Archive 1

Current structure
Here's roughly how the hierarchy looks now (there's a lot of incosistency though):

Electronic music Electronic music festivals Electronic music genres Subgenre Sub-subgenre (style) ...             (messy at this level) Electronic music instruments Drum Machines Effects units ...    Musical software Audio programming languages Music file formats ...    Electronic musicians Electronic music groups Subgenre groups Electronic musicians by country Nationality electronic musicians Nationality electronic music Electronic musicians by genre Subgenre musicians Subgenre groups Sampling

Note: Lines enclosed in <> denote article level.

Proposed structure
Here's a proposal for restructuring the categories. Please comment or propose other ways to do this.

Electronic music Electronic music artists Electronic music artists by country Nationality electronic music artists (e.g. British electronic music artists) Nationality electronic music groups Electronic music artists by genre Subgenre artists (e.g. Ambient music artists) Electronic music groups Subgenre groups Electronic music festivals Electronic music genres Subgenre Subgenre artists Subgenre groups Subgenre releases Subgenre albums Subgenre singles Sub-subgenre (style) (e.g. Goa in Trance category) ...     Electronic music production Electronic music instruments Musical software Sampling Electronic music releases Electronic music albums Electronic music singles Subgenre releases

Only category levels listed.

Relevant documentation:
 * Help:Category
 * Categorization
 * Categorisation FAQ
 * Category schemes

Other musical genres for comparison:
 * Category:Classical music
 * Category:Heavy metal
 * Category:Pop music

Hagbard Celine 18:11, 24 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Okay, it's been a while since anyone looked at this, but things are not done yet by a long shot. WikiProject Musicians recommends the following for individual musicians falling under a particular genre, in theory:

Electronic musicians by nationality  electronic musicians (e.g. British electronic music artists)  electronic musicians by                       electronic Electronic musicians by instrument Electronic Electronic by nationality  electronic


 * (See WikiProject Musicians/Categorization/Progress for the system at work.) Of course, things are probably not going to end up like this, because we frankly don't know where fits. It's certainly going to have to fit somewhere because I can't see us actually making a category called "Electronic keyboardists by nationality" or "Electronic music producers by nationality", without subcategorizing it by electronic music subgenres; eg. "Synthpop keyboardists by nationality" or "House music producers by nationality".


 * Also, we haven't done anything about musical groups yet.


 * If anyone is watching this at all, we could use some input about this. –Unint 19:41, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I started splitting and sorting categories by biggest nationalities and subgenres. For start I'm going to use "xxxx musicians" and "xxxx music groups". (where xxxx is genre/subgenre) Monni 23:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Excellent work so far on reviving a mostly-forgotten task! –Unint 06:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't forget it at all... I was just working on the stub categories first. I'm going through house and dance musicians right now and then possibly double check techno musicians after that. I will be separating musicians and musical groups (bands, project groups etc.) while I go through the categories with CatScan. Monni 15:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Groups
I was going through groups of several different genres and found...

Category:American electronic music groups

Category:British electronic music groups

Category:German electronic music groups

I think these need proper populating.

Monni 19:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Stub sorting
I've added a proposal for new stub categories (electronic-musician-stub, electronic-music-stub) on the stub sorting project page. Hagbard Celine 10:47, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Stub sorting project suggested electronic-album-stub too. Hagbard Celine 14:13, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Worked my way through the Musician stubs category and stub-sorted the entries I recognised by name into Electronic musician stubs. I've moved about 150 entries, but I'm sture there's still many entries that should be moved. We should take a look at the Category:Electronic musicians categories and mark anything appropriate as stubs too. Hagbard Celine 16:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Created electronic-album-stub (Category:Electronic album stubs). Started to stub-sort from Category:Album stubs, but realised that there should be a top-level electronic music album category to put all entries without any categories into before proceeding. Hagbard Celine 13:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject template
The project template (Electronic-music-project) has been added to Electronica and Breakbeat genres and subgenres talk-pages and I've done some minor cleanup on many of those articles. We should probably add the template to the other genre and subgenre talk-pages and any other relevant pages.

I'm not sure if there's any point in leaving the genre template, but I haven't removed it from anywhere yet. Hagbard Celine 12:52, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Finished tagging Ambient articles. Hagbard Celine 14:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Recent changes to related articles
To monitor recent changes to articles related to electronic music, I've created the page Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Electronic_music/Electronic_music_recent_changes. Changes to articles listed on that page will show up on the special page Special%3ARecentchangeslinked/Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Electronic_music/Electronic_music_recent_changes. Hagbard Celine 09:52, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Lobo Halcyon
Has anyone noticed this link to racefortheprize dot com on any of the electronic pages? For the record, this links to the page for Lobo Halcyon, an electronic artist who doesn't seem to come up on AllMusicGuide. Does anyone know anything about him? --JB Adder | Talk 11:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No, and why did you link it here? Sorry, just particularly sensitive after cleaning the external link hell that Electronic music was.  Could you explain your question further?  (removed link) &there4; here&hellip;&spades; 07:05, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the linking, my fault. Now, about the link; basically, this artist link has been appearing on some of the electronic music pages (I've noticed it on, and removed it from, Downtempo, and Karol Langner found it on Trip hop), added, working from the edit history, by 88.107.86.73. This, as has been stated below, is not the IP for the artist. I have my theories as to who (in a more broad, general sense) may have done this, but I'll keep my reservations about revealing them, because I just may be wrong. All I ask of everyone is, if you find this link on any of the other electronic pages, to remove it without delay. --JB Adder &#124; Talk 00:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm Lobo Halcyon, and I don't know why I have been added to any page here. I am not a major artist. Who has been doing this any ideas?

Should this category be at instead? Seems to me that electronica is a subgenre? If so, how should I move it? --Qirex 06:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * although i don't mormally deal with individual song pages, i'd agree with your point. to move it you'd simply copy the [edited] content from here to here then change the category code on each individual page with the old one to the new one.

MusicBrainz
I see you have the MusicBrainz templates cited as resources. I've started a wikiproject to link applicable articles to MusicBrainz. Information on it can be found here and here. Dread Lord C y b e r S k  u  l  l  ✎☠ 12:16, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music
i created Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music a few hours ago but it's already up for afd. is the site notable enough for the article to warrent existing? --MilkMiruku 00:24, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I listed it for afd. Feel free to write a section into an appropriate article if you think it deserves attention beyond the already present external links.  The page ranks 350,000+ on Alexa and does not, in my opinion, deserve it's own article.  &there4; here&hellip;&spades; 00:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Ishkur's site is a joke. A micky-take. The creator knows nor cares little for electronic music. Please stop using that site as a reference work.


 * I don't think anyone is actually using Ishkur as a serious resource. Wickethewok 15:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Then why is it listed at the bottom of the project page under resources? It should be removed. T-1 01:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed. T-1 16:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

"The creator knows nor cares little for electronic music." What a joke.. and the site while humorous is a popular source on genre information particularly for the uninitiated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.133.201 (talk) 13:19, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Dance music
I've posted this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music genres as well, but this concerns both projects.

I'd like to bring up something which I think needs considerable clarification: the connection between dance music and electronic music. (There's also the Electronic Dance article, but people are proposing merging it into electronic music altogether.)

What we have currently are Category:Dance music and Category:Electronic music, and some of the contents of the former almost certainly fits into the latter &mdash; house, techno, trance and the like are often bunched into the label of "dance music", but that isn't really a category that's been integrated under the genre system here. (See dance music and dance-pop, for example, which don't have genreboxes.) "Dance" is too broad a term because it encompasses some of electronic music and some of pop music. However, a lot of articles (such as those using Template:Album infobox, some instance of which I was responsible for) link to the dance music article when discussing electronic dance music, even though half of that article does not apply to electronic dance music.

What I'm proposing, basically, is a clear division between traditional dance music and electronic dance music, since they don't really connect to each other. Expand the article more on both sides, or split it altogether. Integrate items in Category:Dance music into Category:Electronic music. Meanwhile, I think the Electronic Dance article could be expanded so that it can be the primary article linked to in the context of electronic dance music.

Apologies if I'm not being too specific here. I'm not any kind of expert on the subjects in question, but I know enough to see that there is a clear distinction that needs to be addressed. –Unint 04:32, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I wholly agree to this position. Rootless 12:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Sparks
A request for a peer review of the Sparks article has been made here Peer review/Sparks (band)/archive2. Please have a look and maybe help it alongKaptKos 19:42, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

userbox

 * I created a userbox for this WikiProject, which you can add to your User Page. Feel free to edit the image that is displayed in it if you have a better one.  Wickethewok 22:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

WP:KLF
Just a heads up for you: The KLF is now a featured article, and WP:KLF has been set up to further improve articles about that band on Wikipedia. I'm sure we'd be happy to work as a sister or possibly a child Project; if that's an issue (i.e. if there's any possibility of "turf wars") please come to our talk page. In the meantime, we'll be busy working on articles :) --kingboyk 21:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I for one, would be happy with your group as a child/sister project. Wickethewok 12:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I've invented a new term and put you down as a "friend project" :) --kingboyk 15:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Crazy rantings by some guy
I have a question for music fans: are you aware that electronic music is not electronic dance music? Did you ever realize that no university in the USA regards electronic music and the music for dancing as the same genre? Are you aware that this is not a music magazine? Do you know the meaning of the term encyclopedic? Do you know the difference between idiomatic expressions, slang and encyclopedic (formal) language? Are you aware that most of articles claiming to deal with "electronic music subgenres" are unsourced or grounded only on independent websites?Brian W 23:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No one has any idea what you are talking about. Wickethewok 20:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I know. This guy actually reminds me of Mark Peeters... conspiracy-like talk no one can't understand --84.193.167.210 23:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

And who is none? You and just less than a dozen Wikipedians, I suppose. Instead, I suggest you to try to answear to each question I posted above, otherwise you'll look just pathetic. Brian W 21:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you are talking about and have no desire to answer your questions. I have no idea what you are trying to prove and accomplish.  Also, please stop posting this same message on people's talk pages.  If you are having a specific problem with an article, discuss it there.  Wickethewok 04:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * If indeed you'll stop your rants about this, I believe the answer to each of your questions is yes. Wickethewok 04:20, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Brian: (1) I'd love to see you give a citation for your claim that *no US university* ... etc. Are you referring strictly to Universities? ALL the teachers in ALL of them? How about colleges, music schools? I don't think you can backup that claim. Are you a 'purist'? Are you irritated by 'little people'?? (2) Let's suppose it's true that no university thinks 'electronic music' and 'techno' (common parlance:house/techno/trance/d'n'b, et. al) are the same thing. So what? Rock 'n' roll was around years before any high school bands were allowed to play any (sorry, you give your citation first); Jazz was around for decades before anyone would take it seriously, etc. Just because everyone working with 'techno' is not closeted away worrying about microsound, and granular, or whatever the latest academic in situ trend is, doesn't mean that the two are separate, except perhaps in the minds of academics who are PO'd because nobody's heard of them. Electronic music is: music made primarily with electronics. Maybe my Virus is not as heavy as your Moog coffin, if this is a penis thing. Twang 03:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Joe: I guess the guy was trying to make a distinction between electronic art music, like that of Varese or Stockhausen, versus electronic pop music, like that of BT or Kraftwerk. I guess it doesn't really matter... but maybe someone should come up with a way to differentiate between the two, so that someone reading about Stockhausen doesn't end up in some page about IDM. By the way, I'd like to see an article about the tape recorder as a musical instrument (that's how I ended up here). JoeMaffei 14 September 2006

More on the moron... (couldn't resist the alliteration) Maybe he meant that, since the distinction between subgenres of electronic music is so abstract, it's something that can't really be classified, so it can't be part of an encyclopedia. What he forgets is that this isn't an encyclopedia... this is Wikipedia. It's a new thing, baby, get used to it. Anonymous

Apologies for jumpiing in on an old discussion, but I'm a new member and hadn't read it before.

I respectfully disagree with whoever said that electronic music is unrelated to electronic dance music.

I frankly don't care that "no university" in the USA recognises electronic dance/pop music as being electronic music, but it is. IMO electronica owes far more to classical music than it does to rock music. To my mind, there is a direct line of evolution between the experimental electronic 'art' music of Stockhausen et al, and the upbeat techno-trance, IDM and so forth that makes up today's electronic 'pop' music. Electronic music is a broad category and should include both art music and pop music, because in many cases, there's a blurred line between the two. If it were up to me, I'd have the universities redefine what constitutes 'electronic music' so that it does incorporate electronic dance music and other forms of popular music that uses loops and samples.

Electronic (art) music is the same thing as electronic dance music; it evolved from precisely the same experiments and ideas. To deny this is to be elitist, but then I guess that's what they are. --Steve Farrell 22:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No need to worry about that too much; the user who did say that has been banned indefinitely. Welcome to the project; let's hope the next major discussion will be under happier terms. –Unint 00:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Techno music/Hardcore dance music footers
The article on Gabber has been moved from Gabber music to Gabber. Could the techno music/Hardcore dance music footers be altered? Br, Brz7 11:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Wickethewok 13:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, br, Brz7 22:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I've just made a bunch of changes here... got rid of techno stuff in the hardcore section (and vice versa), made hardcore techno the main page, created a template for hardcore, created a category for hardcore genres, sorted footers out as needed and tried to make the list of sub-genres and stuff a bit more unified between all of this. I'm sure there'll be complaints, but I'd not seen much movement and thought I'd take a stab spiralx 21:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Good/featured article

 * I'd like to propose that we direct some of our efforts towards getting an electronic music article to "Good Article" and then "Featured Article" status. I think the hardest part of this will be locating reliable sources, so for those of you who have large back-catalogues of music magazines, you'd be a big help.  I think it'd be easiest to start with either a well-known artist or group (rather than say, a specific genre) as it would be easier to find material on them.  I would suggest either The Orb or Sasha, but of course I would like to hear other peoples' ideas.  Wickethewok 13:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * C'mon folkses. Don't you guys wanna be put this group to some good use?  Teamwork and all that.  Remember, you get to choose whatever we work on.  Wickethewok 19:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm all for it &mdash; not that I have access to anything like what you're talking about. I mean, look at how The KLF made it to FA: just two editors, but they have one fansite that exhastively collects everything available. Other artists, especially more recent phenomena, aren't so fortunate. I have a few pet projects I've been working on &mdash; though working entirely on online sources.
 * One thought, though &mdash; I'd like to see a recent electronic dance single make it to FA. I mean, here is a chance to document the cultural significance of such songs, which I think is lacking in the mainstream. Of course, that's exactly why it's also hard to find verifiable sources... –Unint 22:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Music Genres are very much undefined. Although there is some level of similarity throughout the largescale list of genres, basically they're going to be very hard to get defined. If there were some definitive source on music genres however, I would love to use it. I'd ultimately like to see some Electronica music genres as featured. Just to throw out some suggestions, we could use something like Trance or IDM to help the general population explain the difference between Techno and Electronica. FreeLance FoX 03:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I've been working heavily on Sasha. I have a good main body done, but if anyone wants to help they are of course welcome to!  Wickethewok 22:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I stubled upon RoJaRo.com the other day. It's a database of magazine article subjects from music magazines, so you can search a band and see what magazines had ran articles on them.  Could be a useful resource here. Pimlottc 20:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Alexander Coe

 * Alexander Coe is up for peer review here if you guys would like to have some input. Wickethewok 04:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd really like some feedback on this especially regarding the completeness and conciseness of language of this article. Any and all help is greatly appreciated!  Wickethewok 03:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia 1.0 Assessments
I've updated your project template to support (in the most basic fashion) Wikipedia 1.0 Assessments. If you want to use this system (and I think having looked at the bot-created Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The KLF articles by quality, Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The KLF articles by quality statistics and Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The KLF articles by quality log you probably will!) I'm quite happy to help you get the template updated further to display an assessment, provide instructions, and transclude comments about the state of an article and what work it needs. If you want to go with this and need help either drop me a line on my talk page or post at Wikipedia 1.0 Assessments. --kingboyk 10:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The KLF discography
hi, just to inform you that the article The KLF discography is currently up for Featured List Candidacy. Please vote "support" or "object" with your comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/The KLF discography. cheers! Zzzzz 12:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Fuck the Millennium
Hello, greetings again from WP:KLF. Fuck the Millennium is currently up for Featured Article Candidacy. Please vote "support" or "object" with your comments at Featured article candidates/Fuck the Millennium. Over and out! --kingboyk 13:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Peer review
WP:KLF have two articles up for peer review, and would appreciate your feedback.

All You Need Is Love (The JAMs song)

 * article
 * peer review

Whitney Joins The JAMs

 * article
 * peer review

--kingboyk 15:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Dead?
Is this project inactive/dead? Sure seems to be! :( --kingboyk 22:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Not quite, king, but almost it seems. It was never that active in the first place though, at least not since I've been here.  I always thought it was strange how few electronic music listening editors there are here, especially considering how present we are online.  Keep up the nice KLF stuff, mate, I currently have Alexander Coe up at FAC right now btw.  Cheers and what have you!  Wickethewok 22:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That's a shame. Maybe it will pick up. I've left a comment at the FAC about the article name - I think it ought to be Sasha (something or other) because that's what he's known as. --kingboyk 14:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This project seems to be going nowhere. Perhaps mark it inactive or consider merging with another larger project? (WP Musicians perhaps?) --kingboyk 14:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Most editors in electronic music seem to edit more about their area of expertise, so there isn't much collaboration at the moment. I'm really surprised there isn't more material on Wikipedia regarding electronic music considering the large web presence of fans.  In the future, I will attempt to provide a response in any peer reviews, FACs, feedback requests, etc.. that people post here.  I would suggest that other editors who are currently following this project do the same, regardless of their interest in the specific article subject.  Wickethewok 16:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

KLF
Fuck the Millennium is now a featured article (hooray!) but The KLF discography's featured list candidacy failed (hiss!).

Our next nomination for Featured Article is Featured article candidates/All You Need Is Love (The JAMs song), about the debut single released by the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu all the way back in 1987. Please have a look at the article and voice your opinion in the FAC. --kingboyk 09:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

DJing
I added Category:DJing to the project; it certainly belongs here if Category:DJs does.

There should be an article describing what a DJ does: the whole point of DJing (creating a new whole out of ready-made tracks, creating a suitable atmosphere in the venue, maybe making people dance), basic DJing styles (playing tracks end-to-end and talking between them; playing tracks end-to-end cross-fading between them; beatmatching and making long mixes between tracks as done in electronic dance music; scratching), basic explanation of DJ techniques (now spread among a multitude of articles). I'm not sure it belongs to the disk jockey article, it seems to me that a new article (DJing?) is needed.

Oh, and I'm hereby volunteering to do parts of it. Rootless 12:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I think that would be a good idea. Maybe just start off with the "Techniques" section from Disc jockey and maybe expand it into an article called DJ techniques or something similar.  I agree with you that there does need to be an article unifying the techniques you mentioned.  Wickethewok 16:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


 * There's this thing about performance, affecting people's mood and building the set. It probably falls under Job description, but I don't know where to start and how to write it without sounding pathetic and maintain NPOV.  Also, the job of radio DJs is probably different, and I don't really know what it is. Rootless 02:49, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Project Directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
 * User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
 * User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
 * User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
 * User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 00:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Synthesizers
I'm thinking of starting a new WikiProject to document notable synthesizers and their influence. If this is something that you'd be interested in helping with, please add your name to the proposal. --Mperry 23:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject boost

 * We need more active members at WikiProject Electronic music. So please tell your friends who like electronic music and are willing to put in hours writing about it.  If there are any suggestions for features for this Wikiproject I will help out with them and see what I can do.  Please add any projects you are working on to the list - I will gladly help out with them as best I can.  Since the original project founder has been MIA for 9 months or so, I'm declaring myself pseudo-king of this temporarily abandoned lot known as the talk page of this WikiProject.  Basically, that probably means that I'm just going to do the most work directly related to member organization/cheerleading/WikiProject files/etc for now at least.  For anyone who is reading this: PLEASE TELL YOUR WIKI AND REAL-LIFE FRIENDS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ELECTRONIC MUSIC ABOUT THIS PROJECT!  We need active members!  Wickethewok 11:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think this project has been abandoned at all... People are still working on the categorization. Monni 11:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand that, but there is not much collaboration at the moment, which is the primary purpose of WikiProjects. That is, people don't really say what they are working on, thus allowing others to easily assist them and request help on articles.  I, for one, would really like to help others get electronic music articles up to GA/FA levels.Wickethewok 19:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well... I can't speak for others, but I did say when I joined what I'm going to work on and I haven't changed my mind. Monni 20:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope others mention what they are doing. Some participants have added their names to the participants list and went on doing their own thing, which is cool, but not really helpful in terms of collaboration.  I think it'd be awesome to get an article like house music to FA, but something broad and major like that would probably take multiple highly-involved editors.Wickethewok 21:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear from you again — I can't think of anyone better-suited for the job. Unfortunately, that's because I don't know anyone else, either on- or off-wiki, with the interest and enthusiasm to match (to say nothing of actual knowledge).
 * I suppose working on my own list niche topics is what I've been doing; I am not at the point where I could contemplate working on a topic as big as Sasha. Belated congratulations on that, by the way.
 * However! I'm also working on obtaining sources in print, which should be useful towards larger, more general-purpose articles. I have a few things on hand, but not sure when I'll get around to it. (I have also noticed at least one article where people have said that sources can't be found at all; ask me later, if this is a challenge anyone wants to work on.) –Unint 22:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Heya, Unint! Thanks, I'm glad I finally got my first FA.  I agree that the general articles need work.  I think I might try to tackle a couple of the more general subjects, too, like house music or trance music, which both are in dire need of sourcing/re-organization/etc.  Getting a general-type article like that up to even a GA would be quite an accomplishment.  Wickethewok 16:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Further on the subject of print sources: I've just discovered that WikiProject Computer and video games has started up an archive of magazine sources. Something to think about. –Unint 09:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * something i've come across lately that could be a killer article is Beats (music). hip-hop-centric at present, but has potential for a really good article on drum loops in general, imo. --Kaini 03:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I'm not sure about what the Beats article is supposed to be about exactly. I don't know too much about hip hop, so I'm not sure of the article's scope.  Should it maybe be integrated into something like music loop or something?  Wickethewok 16:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Article tagging/rating

 * Feel free to use the parameters "class" (valid values: Stub, Start, B, GA, A, FA) and "importance" (valid values: Top, High, Mid, Low) when putting on talk pages.  As a general rule of thumb, I would say the major genres (house, techno, ambient, etc...) and similarly important core topics get Top importance, major artists, subgenres, labels, etc... get High importance, minor subgenres and not-as-important artists get Mid importance, and less important artists and obscure topics would get Low importance.  When assigning articles ratings, ask yourself theoretical comparisons: is this as important to someone's understanding of electronic music as synthesizer (clearly a Top importanc article)?  As important as DJ Tiesto (very influential, a clear High rating)?  As important as Orbus Terrarum (album by influential artist, achieved some chart success, widely sold - seems like a Mid to me)?  Or more like Gab Olivier (artist that meets WP:MUSIC, but no charting songs or last influence)?  The ten-year test seems pretty applicable here for articles regarding active subjects (will anyone remember this subject ten years from now?  will it have cultural significance to electronic music?).  Anyways, these are all suggestions of course.  The only rule for rating right now I think should be to use common sense.   Also, for possibly controversial ratings, leave your brief reasoning in the relevant edit summary.  If anyone else does or plans to do this sort of tagging, please leave your comments on how you rate articles in terms of importance to the WikiProject, as this seems like something that should be standardized.  Wickethewok 08:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * If, as it stands, even Kraftwerk only rates High... Can any artist ever qualify for Top? (I was also surprised by The Shamen's rating, but then I know almost nothing about them.) –Unint 21:46, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Under my proposed guidelines above, no artists would be rated as Top. Top would be reserved for broad articles, though having some of the key figures, like Kraftwerk, Brian Eno, etc... might be just as essential.  I would have no objections if some really important artists were in the Top category.  When I get a little break from school, hopefully I'll get a chance to maybe codify the above proposed guidelines, so that others can edit them easily to the point of consesus.  Of course, anyone can go ahead and do that if they are so inclined.  Wickethewok 22:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Fyi, I tidied up and fixed some bugs in the template. You can also use the shortcut  instead of the longer  .  I also added the term "priority", which seems better to use as "importance" and is used more prevalently by other WikiProjects, though importance is still accepted as a parameter.  The categories, such as "low importance electronic music articles", should probably be "low priority..." instead as well.  Anyways, so now on a low priority stub article, you could use , though you should still be able to use anything you used before as well.  Wickethewok 07:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I think The Shamen should be at the top rating allowed by the project, and of course Kraftwerk must be. That said, wik's idea of having only overview articles as Top and everything else maxed out at High isn't a bad idea at all imho... --kingboyk 01:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Drum Club
Anyone fancy starting an article on the Drum Club? (fairly important duo and club night in the history of UK dance music). --kingboyk 17:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC) PS I'm currently not very active on Wikipedia, so if you could keep an eye on KLF articles it would be appreciated! In particular, preventing the addition of subpar material to the FAs is quite important.
 * Thank you Mr Wickethewok! I'm pretty sure it was also a club night, run by the same guys? --kingboyk 01:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

New project
We've got some overlap with WikiProject New Wave music. I think I will link us up, for a start. –Unint 05:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

footer template for garage related
should there be a footer template for garage related styles, akin to et al, containing (for example):

4x4 Garage | 2step | Dubstep | Garage | Grime | Speed Garage

Stevekeiretsu 00:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I notice that all but two of those are part of the main article, and grime, by the looks of it, is not entirely descended from garage. I'd suggest that there aren't so many articles that a navigational tool is needed. –Unint 23:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Deletion nom notice
List of notable trance music records. Salvageable? –Unint 23:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Its a good idea for an article. Does anyone have a better definition for a good list of landmark records of trance music?  Maybe like "List of influential trance music records" or something.  Anyways, maybe a move to user space where it can be sourced and the list better defined/comprehensive is a good idea.  Wickethewok 23:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I could probably make it one of my source-searching projects, but it would take far longer than the AfD would last, and I don't even have that kind of time right now. Also, from a cursory search I've mainly been able to find sources calling one track or another a "smash hit" or somesuch, but few that actually contextualize their popularity. –Unint 05:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I have tentatively set up a (heavily) trimmed version of the article (fully sourced and referenced) on my user space here (with talk page) which might serve as a starting point for improving the present article. In the meantime, I would appreciate if you could contribute to the AfD discussion, especially if you are an expert in the area. Including 2 inactive participants, the vote is presently 4 out of 6 is favour of deletion. Ayla 14:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm undecided. Coming from a non-expert perspective, I think there's a need for information like this, due to the sprawling, unnavigatable market if nothing else. However, the fact that clubs are the main outlet of this stuff makes it particularly tricky to obtain a standard of verifiable information beyond word-of-mouth (hard to track down dance chart records or DJ publications, for instance). I'm also thinking that maybe this would work better as a narrative timeline with much more in-detail context; however, given the amount of published information that exists, is that even feasible? –Unint 18:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The only 'authoritative' publication I've found so far is Ministry of Sound's Fifteen:50, which still has the problem of not formalising the criteria used to evaluate the tracks (DJ opinions, public polls, and so on). I agree that a narrative timeline which also explains the context of the tracks' success would be a better alternative; however, as you said, the published information on this is disappointingly sparse, and is often too informal to qualify for encyclopaedic referencing (for example, Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music). Ayla 10:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

The Orb FAC

 * Feel free to weigh in on The Orb's FAC HERE. I've put a bunch of work into this and would like to hear what others think.  Wickethewok 23:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

New article
You may like to know that The Elephant Table Album finally has an article. Totnesmartin 20:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't heard of this before, but it sounds like a pretty cool album, I'll have to check it out sometime. Wickethewok 21:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * For me personally it was a formative experience - the music I do now is still influenced by the spirit of that album. Totnesmartin 14:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Heya, everyone! I'm a new wikipedia editor, but I'm learning very quickly. I listen to many genres of EDM, but mostly Drum n Bass and Breaks. I would very much like to help improve articles in these categories. I added my username to the list of participants in the wikiproject, and I added the userbox to my user page. Thank you for providing a centralized place to organize efforts in this area! nrwilk talk 17:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome! If you have any questions or need advice on anything, don't hesitate to ask.  Cheers!  Wickethewok 17:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, a quick question!
I'm a fan of electronic music. (Mostly Techno, electro-House, EBM, and Trance.) And i'd be glad to help out with the project from time to time :-). Should I add my name to the list of participants?

And also, the article Electrobel deals with a website vastly about Electronic music. It's a fairly significant electronic online music community. But the article has received very little attention. I gave it a bit more of a formal tone etc. and was wondering if a more experienced editor could go over to the article and fix it up a little bit more. Thanks, (also, if this article is in the scope of wikiproject electronic music tell me and i'll add the notification). Nateland 21:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I touched the article up a bit, it still needs some secondary sources though. I fully suggest you add your name to the list of members if you plan on doing work on electronic music articles.  I hope you find this project useful!  Wickethewok 06:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Categorizing compilation albums
I'm planning to categorize the various electronic music compilations, as part of subcategorizing Category:Compilation albums. Trying to brainstorm what categories might be needed.


 * Top-level: "Electronic music compilation albums"? Techno/ambient/IDM/experimental stuff that doesn't fit elsewhere, like the Warp Records albums and that one a bit up the page.
 * All "dance" compilations: "Electronic dance music compilation albums"? Too long? Can probably cover both "pop" and "club" material for the time being.
 * "Chillout" compilations: This is not strictly all electronic, so I'm not sure if this necessarily belongs here. Would it also encompass lounge/nu-jazz/cafe albums?

Anything else? –Unint 04:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I would group them by closest big enough "parent" genre. Starting from and making child categories when it becomes too large sounds the right solution. Monni 04:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Created. Feel free to populate as needed. –Unint 18:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

FAO photographers!

 * If any of our members are avid concert goers (or have friends that are!), note that photographs for electronic music articles are ALWAYS needed. Put these photos up on Wikimedia Commons and then throw 'em in the relevant articles.  Even if you don't have time to integrate them into the articles, upload them and list them here or something.  Even if you aren't a concert goer/photographer, there's still ways to get photos.  I've found that contacting artists and/or their booking agents is a good way to get a licensed a photo or two under the Creative Commons license.  Such photos are usually promotional anyway, so it seems like they really shouldn't mind free-licensing them to allow for even more distribution of them, right?  Flickr.com also has a great search feature for finding free photos, too.  Even photographers who have "Copyright - All rights reserved" for their photos on Flickr will often agree to license them under Creative Commons if you just ask nicely and say that it would be really helpful for Wikipedia (remember to say that under Creative Commons, they still be credited for their work!).  Millions (billions?) of people use Wikipedia and are perfectly willing to give something back in the form of a donation of a photo or two.  Anyways, there are articles such as Orbital (band) and house music that don't even have a single photo yet, so even if you're not a great article writer, a camera or just talking to some folks can score you some good material for articles.  Wickethewok 06:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Your message has inspired me to add another function to the template, as per the WPBiography one; if you now add "|needs-photo=yes" after class and priority, it brings up a box below the template saying so, and adds the talk page to Category:Electronic music articles needing pictures and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs. Also I found a couple of pics for the house music article. - Zeibura (Talk) 07:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome, Zeibura! Thats actually a pretty useful idea, as I've just sorta been clicking through articles to find articles needing pictures.  Also, if anyone else has any advice on obtaining photos of artists, equipment, or other stuff, please share.  :-)  Wickethewok 16:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * FYI - Example requests for permission <-- Very useful for emailing people asking for photos/licensing. Wickethewok 23:31, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Electronic albums by sub-genre
We have yet another oversized electronica stub type on our hands; I've made one concrete proposal for a new sub-cat here, as well floating some more general possibilities. Please comment there. Alai 05:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, I like the idea. Could you clarify each new stub type you propose to split the category into? You named "Techno, Indietronica, House, Trip hop, Trance and Ambient", if I interpret that correctly, it might be an idea to have one for drum & bass as well. - Zeibura (Talk) 10:12, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I deliberately left it as open-ended as possible: could be all of those, some, or none.  (Doing them one at a time is possibly the best way to deal with the overlap, though equally probably biases the process, too.)  I didn't mention because it didn't show up on my initial number-crunching efforts:  looking again, I only see 11 in that category tree.  (This is all relying on the  subcats, which in turn depend on albums being categorised by artist, and the artists being meaningfully categorised by genre, so it's likely to have lots of gaps.)  Alai 06:31, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Resident Advisor question
Does anyone know if RA's artist biographies (eg this one) are actually written by them, or are they just pulled from promotional materials or something? None of them are signed. I'm just wondering whether I can use them as a reliable source basically.--P4k 18:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think they're actually written by them. The "about" pages mention an editorial team, if that means anything. - Zeibura (Talk) 20:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks.--P4k 04:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

New article (2)
Being Boiled is now an article. Totnesmartin 17:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

TfD of Electronic dance music-footer
For those who don't watch this template, I've nominated it for deletion as redundant to the rest of the footers. Participate here if you have any opinions on this. Cheers, - Zeibura (Talk) 05:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Article request
Arc Lab
 * Do you have any articles written about this group? That is, one's written by reliable sources independent of the group?  A Myspace page alone isn't enough to write an article with.  Wickethewok 19:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Merging/redirecting Electronic music & Electronica articles (closed)
Just to let you know there's a discussion going on on Talk:Electronica regarding whether electronica is even a sub-genre or not, and also how to organise the articles on electronic art music and electronic popular music. - Zeibura (Talk) 17:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

update
The discussion about redirecting or merging Electronica to Electronic music is taking place at this link: on the Electronica talk page. After the above was written, the editor did move the page, but instead of to Electronic music, he redirected and merged it to Electronic music (dance & popular) without consensus. The change was reverted by several editors and the discussion is continuing. If the page has been moved again by the time you read this, the above discussion link might not work. If so, please follow the redirect and find the discussion on the talk page. --Parsifal Hello 06:20, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

The Electronica discussion has been closed with clear consensus to keep the separate article title Electronica.

The discussion about overall organization of Electronic music subgenres is continuing Talk:Electronic art music. --Parsifal Hello 19:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Comments request: Electronic dance music page move to Electronic music (popular & dance) (closed)
An editor redirected Electronic dance music to a new title Electronic music (popular & dance) without consensus, along with major changes to the content causing loss of information, and with duplication of information from Electronica. The changes were reverted but there was much confusion, so I don't know which page it will be on at the time someone is reading this. If the link below doesn't work, then it's been moved again, so if that happens, just follow the redirect and look for the discussion section on the talk page. If the change is made then there would no longer be a page about Electronic dance music. Comments are invited at this talk page link. --Parsifal Hello 09:24, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The above RFC discussion has been closed with consensus to keep the original page name of Electronic dance music. --Parsifal Hello 19:24, 25 August 200

Couple of AfD's
section promoted to bottom for new notification These AfD debates may be of interest to you electronic music folk:

Articles for deletion/Side chain (music) (outcome Redirect→Dynamic range compression) Articles for deletion/Side chain (sound) (outcome Redirect→Dynamic range compression)

Cheers, <font face="Trebuchet MS">- Zeibura S. Kathau (Info 01:20, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Didn't know there way a term for that. Weighed in on the afds btw.  Wickethewok 08:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

17 August AFD: Articles for deletion/Cosmic (Italian dance music scene) --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 16:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notification - will check it out. --Parsifal Hello 21:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The first ten Fabric albums have also been prod'd recently.--P4k 21:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I de-PROD'd them. Hopefully I can find some more stuff to improve them with.  Wickethewok 06:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Navbox templates
Since we've now separated electronic classical from electronic dance music, I've drafted a rough idea for an upgrade to electronic dance music-footer here, bearing in mind the outcome of the TfD. Opinions would be welcome. - <font face="Trebuchet MS">Zeibura (Talk) 15:23, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Also Electronica-footer needs sorting out one way or another, since both rows display the same links at present. They could be merged into the same template perhaps, what is it we've decided electronica means officially, just trance, house, techno and chillout? - <font face="Trebuchet MS">Zeibura (Talk) 18:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject award
I've made us a WikiProject award, just so you're all aware, which is currently at User:Zeibura/Electronic Music Barnstar. Feel free to add a link on the project page or make any improvements if you wish. - <font face="Trebuchet MS">Zeibura (Talk) 00:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:PROD nominations

 * 24 August Audiojack --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 12:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

image deletion
There are quite a few images relating to Tiësto that have been tagged for deletion; see towards the end of User talk:Alexander Vince. John Vandenberg 12:34, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Gah, I wish people would stop uploading non-free promo copyrighted photos of people which obviously fail criteria #1 (non-replaceable). Wickethewok 13:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Marcus Intalex
This was speedily deleted. I don't have the time/desire to look for sources right now, but if anyone else wants to, it's in my userspace: User:P4k/Marcus Intalex.P4k 01:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I found some sources for this and added them to the article, but haven't added any of the info to it into the prose. If anyone cares to they can go ahead and do that, as I might not get to it immediately.  Wickethewok 06:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

General stuff, dubstep
The dubstep article has been getting fixed up nicely and is almost GA class. If I get a chance soon, I'll try to help tidy up some of the remaining issues myself. Remember, if anyone wants feedback about any particular article or anything like that, don't be shy about posting a message about it here! Thats what the project is for! I figure the list on the main project page is sort of a general list of ongoing projects of members, but any specific stuff (putting something on peer review, need help finding sources for an article, need help copyediting, etc) should still be mentioned here to let interested editors know. Wickethewok 06:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Suburbass
I have proposed Suburbass for deletion because the article doesn't give any reasons why the artist is notable. If the article should be kept (you've heard of him, and he's been especially successful or influential), feel free to remove the tag. It could really use some context in the form of independent news reports, reviews, etc. and information about which album releases are most important. Otherwise, just leave the proposed deletion tag in place for five days, and you can add any comments to Talk:Suburbass. Thanks. --Reuben (talk) 17:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with the PROD, searching for +suburbass +review on google doesn't give me back anything useful, so I'm inclined to believe there isn't much if any reliable information about him out there. The article has been around for over 2 years and has been barely touched (it isn't even wikilinked to).  Wickethewok (talk) 21:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking on it. Nobody opposed, so it's now deleted.  --Reuben (talk) 14:34, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD: Techmospheric
Articles for deletion/Techmospheric - <font face="Trebuchet MS">Zeibura (Talk) 00:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Sensomusic Usine
This is an AFD for an article about a electronic music sequencer type thing. I haven't really heard of it or read anything about it, but maybe someone here has. Wickethewok (talk) 10:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The KLF discography (2)
is up for it's second Featured List Candidacy. If you would like to review the nomination please see Featured list candidates/The KLF discography. --kingboyk (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

bassline
If anyone here has any pictures to add to the bassline house article, this would be much appreciated, since I'm thinking this isn't too far off GA level now, but the highly annoying factor of needing to have pics gets in the way here, as it does with most music genres =/ - <font face="Trebuchet MS">Zeibura (Talk) 01:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe you already know this, but images aren't actually a requirement for GA. P4k (talk) 12:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I did not know that, thanks. I was kind of going by stuff I've seen (e.g. this and this. Guess things have changed a bit. - <span style="font-family:Skia, Trebuchet MS; color:#0088FF;">Zeibura <sup style="color:#0088FF;">(  talk  ) 10:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

UK garage cat
Just to spread the word I've made a Category:UK garage, which now needs populating, and I can tell there's going to be quite a lot out there, so if anyone comes across anything that should be in there please add it. Cheers, - <span style="font-family:Skia, Trebuchet MS; color:#0088FF;">Zeibura <sup style="color:#0088FF;">(  talk  ) 10:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Who is responsible for rating articles?
You're not doing a very good job. Talk:Neurofunk - but it's B-class - quite simply inexplicable —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.108.167.227 (talk) 12:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyone can rate articles. You don't even need to be a member of a WikiProject to do so.  This one in particular appears to have been rated by a member who seems to have left Wikipedia.  Really, time spent rating articles would be better spent doing almost anything else.  Wickethewok (talk) 21:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Looking for some help
I have proposed that some articles be merged here. There seems to be alot of minor non-notable sub sub genres with articles. I was wondering if anyone had any opinions as to how to deal with this or any ideas how to must present these? Should we merged them all to Breakbeat? Do articles like Breakbeat hardcore go to Breakbeat or Hardcore techno? -- neon white talk 16:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Graham Massey
Guys someone really needs to do some more work with the Graham Massey page, anyone who know anything about electronica should know who he is. I added a bunch of stuff but im really busy with other things. Would be great if somone could do something. Ta! :) ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ (<sup style="color:purple;">Ταλκ ) 17:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
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Deletion of compilation series
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Back to Mine: Adam Freeland

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Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Electronic music
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Sharp & Smooth at AfD
This house-related pruduction duo is in need of sourcing but editors are unsure what house music sources might be. Input welcome at Articles for deletion/Sharp & Smooth. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<font color="#CC0000">oi 04:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Funky House article
Hello, I quickly rewrote the article on funky house as it was incorrect, and sourced it appropriately. Maybe someone with more time could expand it? Also there is another editor (Desbest) that keeps adding nonsense to the article, check the history and you'll get an idea!

Cheers --JV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.53.108 (talk) 06:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

New Member
I'm a new member of this WikiProject. I know this is inappropriate, but this is bothering me and I want other people's opinions. Why do you think some folks think techno was created in Europe. There are countless amounts of data and resources that proves techno was created in Detroit, Michigan, USA by the Belleville Three - Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson. They have admitted many times how Kraftwerk has been an influence on them. Derrick May describes it as "George Clinton and Kraftwerk being stuck on an elevator with a keyboard between them." However, Kraftwerk didn't create techno and they never called their music techno. They called their music Krautrock and electro. So why do you think some people are ignorant. Is it racism? Can some folks not wrap their mind around the idea of techno being created by people of African descent? Fclass (talk) 23:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * In my experience, unless you are an electronic music nerd (i.e. someone like us who is working on this project and articles), the word "techno" means "electronic music." The subtleties are too hard to discern where the average person would know the difference from techno, electro, rave, or jungle, even though they are plainly obvious to us. It's all the same to them. I'm guilty of that myself. I rarely meet anyone who listens to electronic music so if I'm asked what music I like, I just say techno, even though I don't listen to or like that genre. It's less of a mouthful to say than electronic music or electronica, and the average person knows what I mean. For the European connection, I would say that's because the majority of electronic music is still not mainstream in the US. For example, you'll never hear it on the radio unless it's the most boring, generic "pump up the jam" garbage. You might be lucky enough to find some college radio stations playing more adventurous electronic music. --Mperry (talk) 05:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Dispute regarding Stockhausen on the Aphex Twin page
I'd appreciate it if a few editors offered an opinion on this silly dispute regarding the inclusion of Stockhausen as an influence on Richard D. James. e.g. --Kaini (talk) 22:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Geez, that is a pretty lengthy dispute. Anyway, I'll take a look at in further detail later today so I can put in my two cents.  Wickethewok (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Genres in infoboxes
There's currently an important discussion going on about the removal of genre fields in band and album infoboxes. You can read the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music and provide any opinions you may have. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * As an editor, I am inclined to agree with the removal. However, as a reader, I like being able to glance at an infobox and see roughly what kind of music an artist does.  When in doubt, I think I need to fall on the side of readers, as that is ultimately who Wikipedia is for.  (will cross-post) Wickethewok (talk) 14:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Edit wars at dubstep, 2-step garage, and Bassline house
User:Yaneleksklus aka 86.57.*.* aka 93.85.*.* sure is making life miserable for the maintainers of these articles at present. he doesn't seem to understand WP:RS and his english isn't great. and he doesn't respond to messages left on his talk page. how does one go about tackling an editor like this? --Kaini (talk) 21:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * in fact, it looks like he's causing hassle at about a zillion different pages on musical genres. his intentions do seem good, he just has no intention of discussing the changes he is making with anyone, let alone forming a consensus. --Kaini (talk) 21:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Notability of John Dahlbäck
I created the article on DJ/producer John Dahlbäck today and the notability of the subject is being questioned (the article has been deleted once today already). Granted, the article is by no means a finished GA, but I think, without being an expert, that the article at least could be an acceptable stub given his notability. Mr Dahlbäck was featured on Pete Tong's Essential Mix on October 4th, and judging by his discography I would guess he is notable enough for an article, but what do I know? Could someone from this project just make a neutral comment on the notability of Mr Dahlbäck on his article's talkpage since I'm not 100 percent certain on the notability guidelines of musicians. Thankfully, Sebisthlm (talk) 03:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * EDIT: The article has been nominated for deletion at Articles for deletion/John Dahlbäck. Sebisthlm (talk) 04:28, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD: "Wonky"
Feel free to express your opinion here: Articles for deletion/Wonky (music) - <font face="Trebuchet MS"><font color="#60B">file <font color="#00B">lake <font color="#0B0">shoe 12:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure subgenre names are getting sillier and sillier. Wickethewok (talk) 18:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And there's more! Articles for deletion/Icestep. - <font face="Trebuchet MS"><font color="#60B">file <font color="#00B">lake <font color="#0B0">shoe 13:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Gas (Wolfgang Voigt)
hello all, i've started on documenting the Wolfgang Voigt project Gas (created 4 album articles tonight), and contributions from other editors interested in the musician would be very welcome. check the links for info! --Kaini (talk) 23:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Gas is a very interesting project.  When I get some good Wikipedia-editing time, this sounds like something fun and rewarding to work on.  Wickethewok (talk) 05:10, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * added the gorgeous (well the latter three albums, anyway) cover art. i must dig out the recent interview with voigt in the wire, there's a wealth of infos in there. --Kaini (talk) 22:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * big jobs! - Template:Gas_discography --Kaini (talk) 01:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

red bull music academy lectures
i've removed these links from wiki about a million times on various articles, dismissing them as spam without giving them a proper look -. this seems to be common practice... mainly because they were added by what was clearly single-purpose red bull PR accounts. but this is good, nay excellent primary-source stuff, some of them have transcripts and all. very wikifriendly - actually using the voigt one as a reference now. oh, the hypocrisy. in summation: awesome resource. --Kaini (talk) 02:18, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Question on 2 sites for sourcing
I am wanting to know if either this site or this site would be considered a reliable source? <font color="black" size="2px">じん <font color="red" size="2px">ない  00:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As for http://eurokdj.free.fr/, I would say almost certainly not - as I've never seen a reliable website that was using free webspace from their internet provider and their doesn't seem to be any sort of editorial/verifying structure on the website. As for Bubblegumdancer.com, the only editorial oversight seems to be an 18 year old New Zealander named Mitch, so I'm going to say that this site isn't particularly reliable either.  Other editors are welcome to weigh-in of course.  Wickethewok (talk) 01:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Help
An article called ultritalo is a user's introduction page or something. I know it doesn't meet the standards. It should be deleted, but I forgot how to do the deletion process. Pandyu (talk) 17:16, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I will take care of this. In the future, you can initiate deletion procedures yourself using the instructions found here: WP:DEL.  Wickethewok (talk) 18:42, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Started WikiProject
The current categorization of Electronic music is rather messy (see Category:Electronic music). I started to do some cleaning up, but soon realised that it was going to be more work than I had initially anticipated and that some planning and organization was needed. That's the main reason for setting up this WikiProject. There's also an awful lot of articles in need of attention as well as other tasks that could benefit from coordination. Please add tasks here if you've got any ideas. Hagbard Celine 18:11, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Milestone Announcements
I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 (t, c) 21:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group
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Peer review of Bale Out
The article Bale Out is currently at peer review, comments appreciated at the subpage, Peer review/Bale Out/archive1. Cirt (talk) 08:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Ray of Light GA Sweeps: On Hold
I have reviewed Ray of Light for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 18:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Drum and bass
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found a large number of concerns which you can see at Talk:Drum and bass/GA1, and consequently have de-listed the article. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Remix categories nominated for deletion
Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_July_22. __meco (talk) 14:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Quality Scale?
We need a Quality Scale, since the main WP:WikiProject Music does not a Quality Scale & it is up the sub music projects to come up with a Quality Scale. 『 ɠu¹ɖяy 』¤ 19:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Electronica
. I completely lost interest in this sockpuppetry-filled round-in-circles shouting match a long time ago but incase anyone hasn't yet, someone's just gone and redirected Electronica to Electronic dance music and deleted a load of sourced material in the process. - <font face="Trebuchet MS"><font color="#60B">file <font color="#00B">lake <font color="#0B0">shoe 15:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

How To Join
Do I simply add my name to the list on the article then add the userbox to my page? Keytar Shredder (talk) 12:19, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Trance music vs Goa trance/Psy trance
I'd like to start a discussion on whether those two categories should be treaten like separate genres of music or the same genre. A bunch of sources on the history of both genres(subgenres) can be found. Trance music is described as the type of music that derived from techno in Germany in the early 1990s, while Goa is described as a type of music discovered by hippies listening to EBM in the late 1980s. While Trance is associated with huge stadiums, internation electronic music festivals, Goa is associated with a wide range of types of events - from open air festivals to night forest discoteques. Trance DJs tend not to include Goa into their sets, Goa DJs tend not to include Trance into their sets. But still, in my opinion, Goa and Trance are simillar sonically, and some of their subgenres ("subsubgenres") are not distinguishable (eg, psy prog/full on and progressive trance). I would like a consensus on this topic to be formed; without a definite position on the topic, various problems can't be solved - for example - can one include the history of goa trance into trance music article? is separate footbox for goa/psytrance needed? is it right or wrong to describe the subgenres of psytrance in the trance music article? etc. The best solution would be one reliable source, that states these two are separate genres/the same genre. -- Appletangerine un (talk) 15:16, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * To continue discussion, I was quite lucky to find this book on Google.Books: Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. It has an article on goa/psy where it specifically underlines that goa trance is not a form of trance music that originated in Europe. This source seems quite a reliable one, but still the majority of sources do not I've checked through do not differ Trance and Goa. So I am waiting for your replies on the discussion. -- Appletangerine un (talk) 15:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Electro house
Could somebody with knowledge have a look at Electro house and request deletition? --Subfader (talk) 00:39, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * While article definitely needs to be improved, deleting it is not the case at all, considering the huge popularity of this type of music at the moment. I am sure many articles on it can be found, at least because some electro house had recently reached mainstream charts (eg, The Crookers' remix of "Day'n Nite").
 * But if you suggest to delete it and then to rewrite it on the ground of reliable sources (not those sources listed in the article), then I vote yes, the existing article is of awful quality. -- 217.21.43.222 (talk) 09:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Good Article Reassessment for Justified and Ancient
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Justified and Ancient/GA1. I have placed the article on hold for one week to allow for these issues to be fixed. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Good Article Reassessment of Shag Times
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Shag Times/GA1. I have placed the article on hold for one week to allow for these issues to be fixed. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Alec Empire
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Alec Empire/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:05, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Lack of Dubstep pages
I have noticed the lack of dubstep pages, I tried to make a few but they all get deleted without any explanation. Croydongrimeking (talk) 17:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Removal of reviews from the album infobox
This is a notification of the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums regarding the removal of reviews from the album infobox. The discussion has reached consensus to remove the reviews, though is still accepting further input into the matter. We are especially requiring more discussion on what steps to take next. Your input would be appreciated on what is a matter that will affect a lot of music articles. kiac. (talk-contrib) 09:32, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Portal
Portal up grade has been done--->>> Portal:Electronic music...Buzzzsherman (talk) 01:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Request for comment on Biographies of living people
Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

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Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.

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GA reassessment of Homework (album)
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA  Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Homework (album)/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst  these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
Please see Articles for deletion/Dream house. __meco (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Other electronic genre articles under discussion:


 * Articles for deletion/Folktronica
 * Articles for deletion/Electro-grime
 * Articles for deletion/Drumfunk
 * Articles for deletion/Doomcore (2nd nomination)
 * Articles for deletion/Disco house (2nd nomination)
 * Articles for deletion/Dark house
 * Articles for deletion/Chillwave
 * Articles for deletion/Ambient trance
 * Articles for deletion/Acid breaks

The expertise of knowledgeable editors would be appreciated. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 18:58, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Tiësto
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as it has been tagged for some time with a number of issues. You are being notified as this project's banner is on the talk page. I have delisted it because of serious concerns which you can see at Talk:Tiësto/GA3. If you disagree with this reassessment please bring it to WP:GAR, otherwise if the outstanding issues are addressed please renominate at WP:GAN. Thanks. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 00:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC) All comments welcome. Ridernyc (talk) 12:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Help requested
There is currently a discussion regarding whether the synthpop genre should apply to Pretty Hate Machine, and confusion regarding the application of genres generally. Outside opinions and help from editors with experience in such things is greatly appreciated. Thanks! //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 00:18, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Mainstream Popularity.
Someone keeps saying this genre is mainly popular in the UK. It is not. All the electropop artists come from the UNITED STATES, for example Lady Gaga and Ke$ha. Please fix this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teachereaseply944 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Lady Gaga: Queen of Pop
AfD for this article, discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lady Gaga: Queen of Pop (2nd nomination). Thank you for your time. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 04:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Lady Gaga: Queen of Pop

Category:Electronic music compilation albums CFD
Hello, this is a notice for this WikiProject in regards to a current category for discussion. is currently nominated to be merged into. Your comments are welcome, and the discussion can be found here. Thank you. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  07:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Nadia Ali Articles
I have created articles for the singer-songwriter Nadia Ali. Could anyone please review the articles Nadia Ali Discography, Embers, Queen of Clubs Trilogy: Ruby Edition, Crash and Burn, Love Story, Fine Print and Fantasy and suggest any improvements I could make to them. Thanks! Hassan514 (talk) 03:00, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Electronic music articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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We would like to ask you to review the Electronic music articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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South African psytrance nominated for deletion
Articles for deletion/South African psytrance. __meco (talk) 17:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kohoutek-Kometenmelodie


The article Kohoutek-Kometenmelodie has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Single songs generally do not meet the requirements of WP:N, no mention of notability no references

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No idea if anyone is still watching this page, but input needed
Input from members of this project is requested regarding the Trance music article, here. Thanks. → ROUX   ₪  18:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Intelligent drum and bass


The article Intelligent drum and bass has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Not a notable genre, lacks reliable sources.

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Input needed please
Hi all, I have been rewriting the Tech trance article. Suggestions and input are greatly appreciated! Vachnic (talk) 14:26, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Article at AfD
Renard Queenston needs some specialist eyes from you guys, please. Is he notable? --Dweller (talk) 09:38, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Electronic music to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at WikiProject Electronic music/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! <font face="Broadway">Mr.Z-man 21:54, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I saw the french wikipedia site referenced as a source for an article- is there anyone with enough knowledge of French to translate the articles on that site with the goal of expanding the ones here? Mkantonelli1 (talk) 08:12, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Project Status
I went ahead and swapped out the "inactive" for "semi-active" status on the project page. Mkantonelli1 (talk) 04:51, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I regularly add articles to the project and update assessments. I don't know if others do similar or other chores to further the goals of the project. __meco (talk) 09:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I have been updating assessments and adding to articles where I can. Hopefully the amount of unassessed and stub articles can be dramatically reduced. Mkantonelli1 (talk) 10:01, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Reviewing Homework.
Hi. I'm the current reviewer of Homework (Daft Punk album), which has been nominated to Good article. I need people interested in the topic to help me improve the article. Improvements are mandatory for the aticle to meet the Good article criteria, since its current form does not meet those guidelines.

I'll really appreciate your help. Thanks. --Hahc21 (talk) 02:47, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

FAR notification
I have nominated 4 Minutes (Madonna song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 21:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

New welcoming template
I have created {{subst:Welcome-EDMC}}. This is a welcoming template which can be added to the talk pages of new Wikipedia users that appear to have a particular interest in topics covered by this project. __meco (talk) 08:03, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

MIDI
Hi, all. Are there any active members here with an interest in or knowledge of MIDI? I'd like to improve coverage of MIDI articles, and ideally form a WikiProject MIDI that would take the topic under wing. MIDI is currently claimed by the Computing and Video Games projects, and I don't expect that either of those groups are going to give the proper attention to the musical aspects that MIDI was designed for. It's a large and important subject, and the existing articles aren't particularly good. Anybody who has the inclination or ability to help, please let me know. Let's get our synth on! Dementia13 (talk) 01:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

One of the things I wish I understood more about electronic music production is MIDI! Sorry! Hopefully somebody will be able to help you. <b style="color:#CCCC00;">Lighthead...</b><b style="text-shadow:#C11B17 8px 8px 8px; font-size:13pt; color:red; font-family:Segoe print;">KILLS!!</b> 07:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I added the WPEM banner. Leave the technical aspects of MIDI to the Computing editors, however we could easily find some material to add about how the advent of MIDI influenced music, specifically the progression from disco and synthpop to loop based house and techno. And obviously about video game music too. <font face="trebuchet MS">- filelake<font color="#0B0">shoe <font color="#0B0"> &#xF0F6;    08:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, all, for the response. Keyboardists and recording professionals/enthusiasts would probably be the prime candidates, because they would be familiar with MIDI from both a musical and technical standpoint. The main MIDI page is already tagged by the Computer science project, but there are many aspects of MIDI, many with pages of their own, that have little or nothing to do with computers. If the CS guys had any interest in improving those, there'd be no need to ask about this in the first place. I'm thinking of something with a broad scope, that would cover MIDI instruments and related devices, software, history, technologies, and artists. Dementia13 (talk) 13:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:Hardcore dance music-footer
This template needs to be completely revised. For one, the title says hardcore techno, but then the template itself goes on to list genres like ambient, drum and bass, dubstep, and even trance. Only a few of the genres listed are actual sub-genres of hardcore techno. I would say that you could name it hard dance music, or even try to group it under EDM, but after seeing the wide array of genres there, that won't work either. I was thinking about making a hardcore techno template, then going back through and reclassifying the others into their proper areas of production. (i.e., a house template would include genres like u.k. garage etc...)

Any thoughts? The Undead Never Die (talk) 14:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a section of the template which is called "Other electronic music genres", which implies that these genres are not offshoots of hardcore dance or EDM or whatever it is called. There should not be a need for an area displaying "other electronic music genres", if they are not affiliated with hardcore dance/techno. Therefore, the first thing to do for the template is to get rid of that section.


 * Another question you proposed is what the genres should be grouped under, if not all of them are fittingly grouped under "hardcore dance music". A suggestion to navigate this issue is for this information to be merged with Template:Electronic dance music-footer, while that template has sub-sections, potentially according to List of electronic music genres. Or, the genres of electronic music could have their own templates listing the subgenres, or there could be one large electronic music template with subsections. <font color = "2F4F4F">Backtable <font color = "5F9EA0">Speak to me<font color = "DA70D6">concerning my deeds. 22:01, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

something wrong with Kling Klang Studio
quote from this article: The band members had begun spending eight to ten hours a day in the studio, regarding themselves as "musical workers". but, since when? if it's 1976 or 1973( shows), then a logical error appears: from following content we can find that they spent 8~10h a day designing a mobile studio for 3 years, and it was designed for Computer World tour- but Computer World is released in 1981, how can they designed a mobile studio for a tour about the album which they hadn't even released? - Dr. Cravix ♪Eternal Reminiscence 06:01, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Importance and quality scales
The talk page template links to sections for this project's assessment scales, but the links are dead. Did they ever exist? Are assessment rankings hiding somewhere? <span style='font:1em"Avenir","Minion Pro";background:#CCF;padding:2px 4px'><font color="#B048B5">czar <font color="#888">&middot;  <font color="#888">&middot;  01:22, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * the importance ratings of this project seems to be entirely skewed and should be looked over, e.g. all articles regarding future sound of london have been placed under top importance. tetraedycal 20:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

guidelines regarding cat# in discography section
which label a record was released by are highly important in some dance music scenes, is there some guideline on wether/how this should be included in disocgraphy sections? tetraedycal 20:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Vital articles
There is a discussion regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the Wikipedia project occuring here. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc (talk&#124;contribs)  21:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

New TFA nomination
I've nominated the article 1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?) for consideration as a candidate for WP:Today's Featured Article, please see Today's featured article/requests, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 20:51, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Re-classification
I noticed the article Trap (music genre) was listed as a stub on your quality scale and was simply curious if it still qualifies as a stub. I came across it on the Top 5000 Articles page and it seems to have grown (849 bytes in Oct 2012 when it was assessed to 8,068 bytes as of now). Coinmanj (talk) 17:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's over 1500 characters of prose, so a reclassification to Start class makes sense <font color="#B048B5">czar <font color="#888">&middot;  <font color="#888">&middot;  17:41, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Electronic music colours
There is a debate on whether to split the different forms of electronic music infoboxes into different colours at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Music genres task force/Colours. All views are welcome.--  SabreBD  (talk ) 11:02, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

DJ Many
Soulja Boy's DJ requests assistance with an article about him, now a draft: Draft:DJ_Many_(Disc_Jockey) Ocaasit &#124; c 17:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see suitable independent, reliable sources for such an article right now czar  ♔  19:16, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update
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Leaflet For Wikiproject Electronic Music At Wikimania 2014
Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

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Templates for discussion

 * Templates for discussion/Log/2014 June 25 --Λeternus (talk) 08:59, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Gabber/Hardcore redirect confusion
Gabber redirects to early hardcore, but gabber (music) redirects to mainstream hardcore. Shouldn't these redirect to the same place? I'd do it myself but I'm not sure which target is more appropriate. Should those articles be merged (early hardcore is pretty short)? &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 20:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. The content issue is more that the article mainstream hardcore needs some cleanup. In my experience that's a bit of a catch-all label for anything "mainstream" at a certain time and the article is full of "recently…" so it's difficult to work out what sound it's talking about. The bit about "most gabber today is produced at 160–180bpm" definitely seems out of date. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 12:14, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I just set up Rotterdam techno as a redirect too, replacing the article that was just deleted (which was an unsourced stub talking mainly about a Japanese scene). &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 18:36, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Please join the discussion at Talk:Mainstream hardcore. Thanks! – filelakeshoe (t / c) 07:54, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WP:VG comments subpages cleanup
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Electronic music articles that would be affected by this action are these: If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Electronic music's use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. -Thibbs (talk) 15:55, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Kurtis Mantronik

Expert attention
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SAW II discussion
There is currently discussion about the list of trivia and prose on the article for Selected Ambient Works II. If anyone could add to the discussion here, it would be useful. Thank you! Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Spencer & Hill
Someone deleted (albeit a long time ago) the Spencer & Hill article despite the fact they are notable (per WP:MUSBIO, is anyone in favour of re-instating it? Abcmaxx (talk) 21:17, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Amber (performer) listed at Requested moves
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2101 Records listed at Requested moves
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Amber (singer) listed at Requested moves
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Timeless by Goldie (vinyl limited edition)
To Whome It May Concern, I have been looking for a copy of Timeless by Goldie on vinyl that includes the tracks called INNER CITY LIFE, PRESSURE, and JAH. It is my belief that such a record exists and is worth hundreds if not thousands of pounds sterling (uk currency) to dj's and collectors like myself. On the matter of importance, I would give this album the highest rating as it is very unique and still vaguely contemporary in 2015 due to its relation to drum and bass and its timeless nature as could be implied by it's name. I am a musician and a dj and having an appreciation for every style of music I have ever encountered qualifies me to rate this album in the way I have just done. It is not only as good as any other drum and bass written ever, but it is also as good as any other MUSIC ever written too. Goldie is naturally musical and so are those who co-wrote this album. Please note there is a cd available with the three tracks I mentioned which feature as 1 track/ piece of music, this is usually either with a white and blue cover or an extremely multicoloured cover (the later is a newer edition sometimes listed as "Timeless II" which contains the tracks from the "full album" Timeless as released on cd in the blue and white sleeve PLUS more tracks such as "Jah the Seventh Seal" and "This is a Bad". To my knowledge the cd with the longer list of tracks (the extremely multicoloured one) which is sometimes sold or listed as Timeless II has never been reproduced on vinyl. If it ever is released on vinyl it will be worth a lot of money, I hesitate to say it lest saying it curses my chances of ever owning such an item, but it would be priceless if produced in low quantities. (I said so because I don't mind Goldie making a few bucks for his art.) The limited edition vinyl copy (of the shorter but still quite comprehensive and definitely cohesively a complete work of art as an album,)album, which I believe had a blue and white cover like it's counterpart cd ( featuring INNER CITY LIFE, PRESSURE and JAH,) is arguably priceless if it exists until it is re pressed on vinyl for commercial release. Then it would still be worth hundreds but not thousands depending on how many were pressed and sold. My personal obsession with the original album or the second main version (sometimes known as "Timeless II",) has inspired me to ask you to mention the vinyl which may exist including the tracks INNER CITY LIFE, PRESSURE and JAH, in at least one of your articles on Timeless by Goldie as it's mere possible existence is EXTREMELY significant in the music world and is likely to interest some of your readers. If you speak to Goldie could you pass it on from me that his fans of the future will want a vinyl edition with INNER CITY LIFE, PRESSURE and JAH as featured on the first main version of the cd release of this album. Please also mention that the multicoloured Timeless II is also crying out to be released on vinyl for serious collectors, fans and djs. I will be trying to obtain such items myself on an extremely limited budget and believe publicising these artifacts is what they deserve. Yours sincerely, Michael Munn of Bristol UK. ... PERHAPS you could forward this entire letter to Goldie with my email address (rationalparty99@hotmail.com) if you know how at some point?!?! I believe I met the man at Lakota In Bristol one time upstairs in the drum and bass room. Oddly for me I didn't recognise him by his famous Gold teeth until years afterwards as I was intoxicated and oblivious to my luck on the dancefloor. Oh well. It won't happen again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.85.198.116 (talk) 01:19, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Discussion regarding terminology of singles
I have started a discussion regarding how Wikipedia should define singles. Please go here to discuss.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me  &#124;  See what I have done  ) 19:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Lack of Harsh Noise Entry
Hello! I'm new to this WikiProject, so I apologize if this isn't the right place to put this mention. I see that the Harsh Noise page links back to the Noise Music page. I think there's a good enough argument to make it it's own separate sub-categorical page. I think it would be good to create one! Joeyvandernaald (talk) 15:02, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

New book relating to post-disco, post-punk, and hip-hop
New book, looks useful for historical info on post-disco, post-punk, and hip-hop in NYC. Life and Death on the New York Dance Floor, 1980-1983 by Tim Lawrence, 2016, Duke University Press. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 15:54, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
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 * Fix and improve Mr.Z-bot's popular pages report

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Oh Yeah (Yello song)
Oh yeah! This article would be a whole lot better with a short sound excerpt. Could somebody do that? <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:56, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I think there's one in Yello. Can't check it on this crummy computer. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks. Will add it.  Beautiful!  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:37, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report
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Genre Stubs AFD's round 2

 * Articles for deletion/Illbient
 * Articles for deletion/Italo house
 * Articles for deletion/Krautronica
 * Articles for deletion/Lion Pop
 * Articles for deletion/Manga pop
 * Articles for deletion/Minimal electronica
 * Articles for deletion/New school hardcore
 * Articles for deletion/Nu-NRG
 * Articles for deletion/Organic ambient music
 * Articles for deletion/Picopop
 * Articles for deletion/Popsical

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ridernyc (talk • contribs) 12:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Notaker for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Notaker is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Proposed deletion of Acousmatic Room Orchestration System


The article Acousmatic Room Orchestration System has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Promotional advertising by COI/SPA whose only edits on three different projects are all for this product."

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Sub-project EDM
Hello, fellow participants of the electronic music WikiProject. I plan on forming a sub-WikiProject called "Electronic dance music" that would group related articles. Electronic music (EM) and electronic dance music (EDM) are different. The latter is a genre and the former is music that is made with electronic instruments. EDM consists of many sub-genres like house, trap, trance, techno and many other dance/club-type genres, and most of these sub-genres have sub-genres of their own (e.g. house > deep house > tropical house) and fusion genres (e.g. trouse = trance x house). EDM should have its own project because it is incredibly significant in the music world as it is regarded as "the one for the future" and there are many interested editors. The project may consist of the following topics: dance music, DJ-ing, nightclubbing (raves), EDM labels/companies, EDM sub-genres and so much more.

Before I propose the creation of "WikiProject Electronic Dance Music", the advantages and disadvantages of this project should be discussed. Please comment your thoughts. - The   Magnificentist  13:27, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the 'heads up'. I am most certainly interested in this subject, so... Count me in! As my username already reveals, I'm a big fan of 'classic' electronic music like Jarre, Kraftwerk and Vangelis and so on, but also a big fan of more modern electronic music like trance, gabber, techno, eurodance and other related kinds of house music. If there's anything I can have something to say about, I will do my best to provide y'all with some information. Another advantage I may have: I'm from the Netherlands! Why is that an advantage? We brought you 2 Unlimited, more than once the best deejay of the world, we've invented a wide range of styles... I might start to sound cocky right now, but prove me wrong! So, as said before, count me in. Thnx for asking. Oxygene7-13 (talk) 19:12, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I've got some minor interest in this but mostly stumbled onto this by accident while browsing. While I understand your position (having a tight interest on EDM), I don't quite understand the need for a sub-project of the broader project. Could you elaborate a bit on the need to separate the topics? Would this really be a separate related project, or would it be a task force of this one? -- ferret (talk) 23:28, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to be a related sub-project since EDM and EM are two different topics. IMO, participants who join this project intend to work on EDM-related pages but since EM includes all of electronic music topics, they may feel this project is not for them or may think it is too broad for them to work on a single topic. Creating this new project may help participants identify the exact one they want to work on and it might appear more interesting to new participants. Currently they may feel EM is about classical electronic music and old age disco, so I think forming a new project may help gather them and work as one dance music/club-loving unit that is just about EDM, DJ-ing and raves, excluding the classical stuff and other electronic genres that don't fit in EDM. - The   Magnificentist  10:03, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't see any good coming from a separate or even sub WikiProject/task force. If you want to work on the articles, work on them, and if you want to be make a subpage of WP Electronic music because it aids in your editing organization, go for it. But otherwise Wikipedia is littered with WikiProjects in which someone puts a lot of effort into tagging articles (creating a lot of work for other people) but ultimately doesn't have the critical mass to use a common talk page as a sounding board or editing community, and all that tagging effort lies fallow. Even if you were to go through the process of finding 10+ active editors who could actually use the page to coordinate (WikiProject Council/Proposals), I would still wager that the chances are low if the same group doesn't even use the existing Electronic music page to coordinate. The cherry on top: My apocryphal understanding of the phrase "EDM" is that it was a neologism from the rise of Deadmau5/Daft Punk DJs in the US backdated to older genres previously known by more specific genres (house/techno/electro/rave), or plainly under the umbrella of "electronic music" (as in the "D" was redundant). If that's the case, then the WikiProject ("electronic music") already exists. But even if that's wrong, I would make damn sure that there are more than 10 editors who need such a page for coordination before putting in the work and creating the cleanup for others Eye close font awesome.svg czar  17:07, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Hands (Mike Perry song)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Hands (Mike Perry song). nyuszika7h (talk) 15:31, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Content (Joywave album) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Content (Joywave album) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Reviving
I'm looking to revive this project, as a hub for EDM-loving editors to gather and discuss improvements to the topic. If anyone is interested, you may add your name to the main page and use some of the userboxes. — Za  wl  15:50, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Psychedelic ambient
Please help to expand psychedelic ambient. --Jilja (talk) 17:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Bluetech
Bluetech is likely going to be removed again without reliable sources (WP:RS) that significantly and independently cover this topic. --Jilja (talk) 17:32, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Mihalis Safras
Hi all, I'm not familiar with electronic music articles or the proper references used in those articles. There has been an editing war at Mihalis Safras regarding claims the subject plagiarized music. One editor linked to a primary source, this interview with someone claiming he was plagiarized. There might be better secondary sources about this issue, like this and this, but that all depends on whether or not those sources are suitable for inclusion. I'm hoping that people familiar with the scene can provide some guidance at the article to determine if the content should be included, and how it should be included neutrally. Since this WikiProject seems to be semi-active, I'll cross-post my request at WikiProject Music. Thanks all. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:00, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Electronic_music

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.&mdash; Rod talk 15:23, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Captions in Infobox album
Hello. In Template:Infobox album, I believe that the "caption" parameter should only be used if absolutely necessary; eg. to distinguish a specific version of an album cover that is shown in the infobox. However, I see a lot of album articles (particularly in electronic music, and related to the record label Monstercat) that have every cover with the caption "Cover art" (example). I believe this is compeltely pointless, unnecessary, and that these captions that serve no purpose should be removed.

I have also crossposted this at Template talk:Infobox album and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music. Thanks,  Lazz _R  18:06, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

I Don't Believe Hip-Hop is an EDM Genre
Like the title says. Sure, some hip-hop subgenres are considered EDM genres (such as Trap and Grime), but not all of them are. Besides, hip-hop inspired EDM, not the other way around. So, if anything, EDM should be a subgenre of hip-hop. Here's a link to a Quora post I found that has more information: https://www.quora.com/Should-hip-hop-be-considered-a-sub-genre-of-electronic-music Bizkit24 (talk) 17:39, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
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RL Grime's Nova album
Hello, RL Grime's second album, Nova, is quickly gaining notability with reviews on Guardian and Pitchfork, and is probably going to chart too, but there's currently no Wikipedia article for it. I'm interested to create it, but I wouldn't wish to work alone and would need some other people joining me to write parts of it (background, singles etc). Is anyone interested? Do comment below if you are, or I'll put this task on hold for a future date (in which the initial hype for the album would die down). aNode  (discuss)  12:37, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd be interested in helping, though I may be more of a nuisance more than anything else. For now, i'd recommend you just get another electronic music album, use it as a template and just stick in as many cool references as possible. For a simple album template, I'd currently suggest my WIP of Some Kinds Of Magic as it is pretty small and chill and has most of the basic stuff you'd want in an album article. Constructing the article would take time as well as it is a pretty well-covered subject and there would be a lot of references to get through, so I'd highly recommend you just stick Nova into a draft space or your sandbox and link it here so anybody here could help. Micro (Talk) 13:03, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeahhh, I know! I've written my fair share of album articles before at Human (Steve Angello album) and Not All the Beautiful Things. Those however were written completely alone which took up a lot of work and my time. If you would wish to assist, please do! Perhaps you can write the sections that you're comfortable with and I can do mine (critical reception, refs etc.) You up for it? aNode   (discuss)  16:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I’d try to help whenever I could, but I can’t if you don’t link me the draft or Wip that you’ve been working on so far. If you don’t have a draft/Wip and this is just a concept, I might start it in my sandbox or whatever. Micro (Talk) 21:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Alrighttt, I'll get started on it soon. Gotta finish a task I'm working on first, then I'll get the page ready. Will ping you here when the page is started! aNode   (discuss)  02:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

A draft for the album has been created at Draft:Nova (RL Grime album). Micro (Talk) 07:59, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Nina Kraviz Article Doctor? No realiable source for such an academic degree
Hello Community,

I doubt, that she was a dentist or has a doctoral degree - the reference source is not working and in social media there are no concrete references about her academic career. Additionally I didnt find the dissertation.

... Open for discussion, hopefully I am wrong and we will find a realiable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bene2510 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * From the archived source located in Kraviz's page,, it states: "Nina is originally from Irkutsk in Siberia, on the shores of Lake Baikal and to the north of Mongolia. She made the 5000km trip west to Moscow when she was 19 to study dentistry, and still lives in the Russian capital, though she spends an increasing amount of time on the road." You're right, there's no source on the doctorate. I'm changing it to state that she just studied dentistry. aNode   (discuss)  04:44, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC on hip house
There is a RfC about the scope of the hip house term at Talk:Hip house RoseCherry64 (talk) 21:20, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Inactive members
Just a small observation, there's lots of inactive members on the "Current member projects" section, which take up lots of space. Can we remove those editors who hasn't edited for over 6 months? aNode  (discuss)  04:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Future bass
Anyone wanna assist in cleanup and improvement of this article? After cleaned up the article, I followed-up with further removals and recovery of lost info with references to go with it. Both these edits were in response to an Australian mobile IP user who raised these concerns on Bink’s Talk page in good faith. My initial issues with the artist section as I described in the Talk page were as follows: Thanks in advance for any assistance provided. 66.87.148.148 (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Stylisations were re-added to the section against a prior consensus. This was addressed in my follow-up.
 * Column division was removed; this was restored by me.
 * Artists without wiki pages were restored from a previous revision, which have now been removed again.

Can there be little information added about the producer? Nooraalkhalifa (talk) 07:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:David Guetta for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:David Guetta is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:David Guetta until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 02:38, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
 * – Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Electronic music for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Electronic music is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Electronic music until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 11:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Ishkur 3.0
I am not sure how active this project is nowadays, but we should all be aware that Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music v3.0 is out and we should expect Wikipedia to be flooded with a fresh wave of poorly sourced articles about dubious microgenres, like it was after the release of v2.5 over a decade ago. Keep an eye out and merge/redirect/AfD as appropriate. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:28, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Synthesizer
Is anyone available to help us get consensus regarding 's removal of uncited sections from Synthesizer? ~Kvng (talk) 16:28, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned article
I've just stumbled across the Nakadia article about a Thai DJ based in Berlin, tagged by this project, which has no links from the mainspace at all. It would be helpful if someone familiar with the topic area could fix that. Thryduulf (talk) 12:28, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I have added a link just now out of the existing mention at Guernsey Festival of Performing Arts. Article was already linked from List of Thai people. Jalen Folf   (talk)  14:42, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Merge proposal at Moog synthesizer
I've proposed merging Moog synthesizer into several articles. Opinions needed. Discussion here. Popcornduff (talk) 14:47, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Article issues.
There are comments at Talk:Acid house which may be of interest to members. Otr500 (talk) 15:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Proposed article deletion: List of classic synthesizers
Discussion here. Opinions welcome. Popcornduff (talk) 01:19, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Looking for help with synth articles
Hi all. Over the last several months I've been trying to improve our coverage of major electronic musical instruments (mainly synths, samplers and drum machines). Before I got started, important articles like synthesizer, Moog synthesizer and Minimoog comprised reams of original research and clutter. It has involved an awful lot of WP:TNT.

I feel I've been making progress, but it's lonely work and there's still lots to do. Unlike on articles to do with albums, movies and games (where I spend most of my Wikipedia efforts), there doesn't seem to be so much activity around these articles. So I'm posting here to invite any interested parties who might be willing to help out.

Any kind of help is appreciated. I'm pretty good at the soft stuff - history, impact and so on - but what would be super useful would be someone who has more technical knowledge than I do and help flesh out the description of how these devices actually work (using proper sources, of course). This is the area I'm least able to contribute to.

If anyone is up to the challenge please don't be shy. Thanks.

I'm also posting this over at WP:MUSINST. Popcornduff (talk) 00:32, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

List of synthesizers
Following the deletion discussion linked above, I've created a new article, List of synthesizers. It needs major expansion, so help is appreciated. Thanks. Popcornduff (talk) 03:09, 28 January 2020 (UTC)


 * And you've redirected List of classic synthesizers there. ~Kvng (talk) 15:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * That's right, as the consensus was that that page should either be deleted or redirected. Popcornduff (talk) 02:12, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * The deletion discussion closed with no consensus which is formally the same as keep. I'm not going to contest your redirect; I just wanted the record to show that killing off List of classic synthesizers was part of your program in creating List of synthesizers. ~Kvng (talk) 04:11, 3 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Well, thanks. And, for the record, I understand the discussion was closed without consensus, but as every responder voted to either delete the page or redirect it to a new List of synthesizers page, I figured that no one would object if I did that. Popcornduff (talk) 07:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Saving Light FAC
Howdy y'all, Saving Light (by Gareth Emery and Standerwick, featuring Haliene) is currently up for Featured Article Candidacy. Please vote "support" or "object" with your comments at Featured article candidates/Saving Light/archive5. Thanks. Micro (Talk) 08:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Uwe Schmidt bio error
I think that I have found an error on the bio page for Uwe Schmidt, but I don't know enough about him to correct it. That is, I need help interpreting what was written.

Under the 1995 - 1998 section there is this sentence: "After a couple of unsuccessful attempts during 1993–1995, still living in Frankfurt, he recorded right tracks in the later declared electrolatino style." I believe that the word "right" should be "eight." The word "right" makes no sense.

Thanks for your help

Gunter Lap — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stalfnzo (talk • contribs) 17:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I have identified this as a typo and have fixed it accordingly. Thank you for bringing this up. Jalen Folf   (talk)  17:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Feel free to help with the draft article for Joyryde's debut album 'Brave'
The article for Joyryde's debut album Brave has been submitted as a draft. Feel free to check it out and help improve upon it, whether it would be minor spelling and grammar, or adding entire sections. Micro (Talk) 06:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

AfC Catz 'n Dogz
The article for Draft:Catz 'n Dogz has been submitted as a draft. After the first submission was rejected, improvements have been made but any additional references and improvements would help Littletishtash (talk) 15:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Wiki-ad for this project:
I made a Wiki-ad for this WikiProject, it suits the project well:



« ias! |,,.|usbk» 19:54, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Merge proposal: Stardust (band)
I've proposed that Stardust (band) be merged into Music Sounds Better with You. This was done before in 2015, but then unmerged, so I'd like to gain wider consensus on it. If you have views on this please participate at Talk:Music Sounds Better with You. TSP (talk) 02:41, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Both subjects are notable and have reliable sources, but if not enough expansion and improvement is done to the two articles, then the merge should happen. « ias! |,,.|usbk» 02:14, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks - could you contribute at Talk:Music Sounds Better with You rather than here please? TSP (talk) 12:13, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I may go ahead. « ias! |,,.|usbk» 12:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

AfC Dave Nada
I started an article on Moombahton creator Dave Nada. The draft has been submitted here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dave_Nada. "Dave Nada" currently redirects to the moombahton genre page. Any help on editing the page and the review would be helpful! (note for transparency - I know him and have declared so on my user page) Feedback very welcome! SoundScenario (talk) 02:26, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The article has now been approved. <span style="border:1 solid;background:radial-gradient(#eee,#ddd);font-family:courier">- ias postb□x+ 06:54, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

consciouselectronic.com
This website does not appear to be unreliable but I have very limited knowledge of electronic music sites beyond the really well known ones like dancing astronaut and youredm.com, and was wondering if this would be a trustworthy source or not? -- Carlobunnie (talk) 01:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually the website has real staff and some decent quality maintenance. <span style="border:1 solid;background:radial-gradient(#eee,#ddd);font-family:courier">- ias postb□x+ 10:40, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Assessing several WP:EMU articles.
I have been quickly assessing several Electronic music articles lately (I think I assessed around a thousand articles or something), how does that sound? <span style="border:1 solid;background:radial-gradient(#eee,#ddd);font-family:courier">- ias postb□x+ 07:11, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, here's the proof that just came out very recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Electronic_music%2FPopular_pages&type=revision&diff=971356026&oldid=966192303 <span style="border:1 solid;background:radial-gradient(#eee,#ddd);font-family:courier">- ias postb□x+ 17:59, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Jean-Michel Jarre GAR
I am doing a GAR on article about of the greatest and most essential electronic musicians of all-time: Jean-Michel Jarre. Participate in this link here: Good article reassessment/Jean-Michel Jarre/1. <span style="border:1 solid;background:radial-gradient(#eee,#ddd);font-family:courier"> ias :postb□x 13:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * GAR closed with "delist". <span style="border:1 solid;background:radial-gradient(#eee,#ddd);font-family:courier">- ias postb□x+ 18:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Proposal of interest
Members of this WikiProject and anybody who works on music-related articles might be interested in a proposal I've started. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 14:19, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

MCMXC a.D.
Hello, I have put the article, MCMXC a.D., up for peer review. I would appreciate it if anyone could peer review this article. For context, MCMXC a.D. is a new-age album made by the band, Enigma, which at the time consisted of Michael Cretu, Frank Peterson, Sandra Cretu, Fabrice Cuitad, and Louisa Stanley. The album contains the singles, "Sadeness (Part I)", "Mea Culpa (Part II)", "Principles of Lust", and "The Rivers of Belief". It isn't popular now, but back in the early 1990s, this album was really popular and successful. Lazman321 (talk) 23:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

How does importance work?
Hello, I'm new to engaging with wikiprojects and wondering how importance works and how I can become involved in that aspect of this wikiproject. Obvs I've got an article in mind that I think could use a reassessment but mostly I'm just curious about how it works re:consensus-building generally and in this project in particular. Thanks for insights! TheMusicExperimental (talk) 18:55, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


 * See Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Release_Version_Criteria for a description. Let me know if you have any questions or need anyone to look over your shoulder as you get started. ~Kvng (talk) 14:31, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

The Orb featured article review
I have nominated The Orb for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. RetiredDuke (talk) 12:04, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Requested article: Powertran Transcendent 2000
First synth of Thomas Dolby & used on Unknown Pleasures
 * https://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-UK/Technology/Technology-Modern/Archive-Practical-Electronics-IDX/IDX/80s/PE-1982-04-OCR-Page-0002.pdf
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20201111033218/https://www.epanorama.net/sff/Audio/Musical/Circuits/Transcendent%202000%20Synthesizer.pdf
 * 2601:646:200:120:C0B3:FD0E:F5C8:B992 (talk) 16:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-UK/Technology/Technology-Modern/Archive-Practical-Electronics-IDX/IDX/80s/PE-1982-04-OCR-Page-0002.pdf
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20201111033218/https://www.epanorama.net/sff/Audio/Musical/Circuits/Transcendent%202000%20Synthesizer.pdf
 * 2601:646:200:120:C0B3:FD0E:F5C8:B992 (talk) 16:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-UK/Technology/Technology-Modern/Archive-Practical-Electronics-IDX/IDX/80s/PE-1982-04-OCR-Page-0002.pdf
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20201111033218/https://www.epanorama.net/sff/Audio/Musical/Circuits/Transcendent%202000%20Synthesizer.pdf
 * 2601:646:200:120:C0B3:FD0E:F5C8:B992 (talk) 16:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 2601:646:200:120:C0B3:FD0E:F5C8:B992 (talk) 16:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 2601:646:200:120:C0B3:FD0E:F5C8:B992 (talk) 16:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of notable audio examples
see here, Clear/Techno Music/Big Fun - not seeing the point of these deletions, chime in if anything to add. Acousmana (talk) 21:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

new article - Guy J
Right folks, I usually edit science articles but made an article on Guy J. Just feeling my way round sources etc. If anyonw wants to help me expand it they are most welcome to :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:04, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Resident Advisor is the best resource for this level of artist. Ceoil  (talk) 17:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, found it now XD Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:39, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Cinq études de bruits by Pierre Schaeffer
Specifically "Etude aux tourniquets": After contacting the composer Michel Chion I learned that there has been for a long, since at least when the liner notes for 1er Panorama de Musique Concrete were translated into english, a misrepresentation of what a tourniquet is in this context. It's not a whistling top. It is a hollow metal toy with a noisemaker inside similar to a music box, but not arranged as such to play a particular tune. There is a crank on top of the metal casing to turn the barrel inside that plucks the metal tongues.2600:100F:B020:1E2A:2C37:214B:D043:A67A (talk) 04:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Aztec Records
I am looking for people to help me develop this article:* 6 Jan 2021 – Draft:Aztec Records (talk · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Aztec Records&action=edit edit] · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Aztec Records&action=history hist]) need to be developed with more references. New References are in draft´s talk page (t · c) — Preceding undated comment added 10:35, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've added some advice to the draft. ~Kvng (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Solstice (musician)
Hi folks. I have written this new article Draft:Solstice (musician) about the electronic music Hardstyle producer Solstice. I would like to receive feedback to improve the article. If anyone wants to participate to expand the information, I would be very grateful. Cclgnd (talk) 13:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Quique genre
There is a discussion on the talk page about including genres in the infobox of the article on Quique. Any contributions would be helpful. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

More opinions needed at Delay effect
More opinions would be appreciated about unsourced material at Delay effect. Thanks. Popcornfud (talk) 11:49, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

FAR for John Frusciante
I have nominated John Frusciante for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 15:44, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Sasha (DJ)
I have nominated Sasha (DJ) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 17:32, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Request for opinions aiding a four-sentence-long article merge
See discussion at Talk:Vaporwave. Lots of Future funk fans chiming in to say that the genre should have its own article, seemingly unfamiliar with the concept of WP:OVERLAP and WP:REPUTABLE. ili (talk) 17:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

New article about Paradisio's singer, María Isabel García Asensio
I someone could make that happen, it would be nice. - Joaquin89uy (talk) 14:54, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Paul Oakenfold
Would someone here mind taking over watchlisting this article from me? I know nothing about the subject (it only ended up on my watchlist due to disruption) and it seems he's planning on being pretty active this year. Thanks! Graham 87 05:10, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Ludovico Technique (band)
Hey all! I have created an article on the band Draft: Ludovico Technique (band). The group has reemerged over the past year after a long hiatus. I'd love feedback if anyone has any :) Thank you!CorinneWestbrook (talk) 22:08, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEG
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2022 May 6 § File:Diddy-DirtyMoney-HelloGoodMorning.JPEG. Marchjuly (talk) 22:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

All You Need Is Love (JAMs song) Featured article review
I have nominated All You Need Is Love (JAMs song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk)  03:14, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:IIII (album)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:IIII (album) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 21:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Opinions required at Ableton Live
There is a dispute about whether to include a list of release notes at Ableton Live. More opinions, please. Popcornfud (talk) 15:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Joe Bermudez
Despite knowing very little about house music, I have made a modest start on an article on Joe Bermudez, since I noticed he had 3 number one dance hits to his credit. Improvements would be welcome. Brianyoumans (talk) 17:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Cercle (media) article review
Please review Draft:Cercle (media) article again. I've added more data and sources links. Tomasz w (talk) 14:35, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Electronic dance music
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash;Electronic dance music&mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:58, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Seeking a new rating from a more experienced editor
Hi there! I've been working on the page for the musician Attlas for a while now and would appreciate some feedback as to the direction and content. It's a part of several wikiprojects, but since there wasn't any initial rating from the electronic music one, I figured I'd start here. I'll be honest, as a relatively new editor I don't know the exact process for getting the ratings updated, but I appreciate any direction or help. Thanks in advance! Superlucer (talk) 23:00, 18 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Nice work! I've given it a B rating. That's as high as you'll get from a quick informal review. If you ave higher aspirations, have a look at WP:GA, WP:FA and WP:PR. ~Kvng (talk) 00:03, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

A-class article assessment
How to start article assessment for A-class? It's an article about the song "Fest i hela huset" by Swedish musician Basshunter. Eurohunter (talk) 15:49, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Image of Artiphon Instrument 1
Hello all. I was wondering if any members of this WikiProject has an Artiphon Instrument 1 in their possession, and could upload an image of it to Commons. I need it for a draft I'm writing. Thanks, <span style="font-family: Opensans, sans-serif;">Schminnte (talk • contribs) 20:20, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:State to State (808 State albums)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:State to State (808 State albums) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. – Material  Works  13:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Earmilk reliability
Question came up on WP:DISCORD regarding Earmilk's possible reliability as a source. Having looked into it, I see WikiProject Electronic music/Sources lists it as reliable, but that addition was made unilaterally based solely on the site's about page. Personally, I don't see it. I even looked at the latest archived version from before that edit and it's the exact same text. That page doesn't make any mention of an editorial team, list any of their writers' credentials, or any of the telltale signs of reliability, and that alone should not get it listed. So I figure I should ask here: is that listing legitimate anyway? Is this site any good? QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 12:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Due to the lack of response, I’ve decided to boldly remove the listing myself. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 15:41, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Years In Electronic Music
Do y'all mind if I start making articles for years in electronic music? Other genres have pages documenting events and albums in specific years of that genre (2006 in rock, 1985 in jazz, 1999 in metal, for example) but Electronic music doesn't have these. One is linked in several recent year in music pages like 2022 in music but its a red link.

It would take a while cause there are obviously a lot of years to cover. I think it'd have to start sometime in the 60s or maybe 70s. Could just start with this year. The rock ones only go back to 2006 and that page was made just last year Carolina Heart (talk) 19:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * No objection but be aware that the pages you give as examples are not getting a lot of page views so your effort is not likely to be of great benefit to readers. ~Kvng (talk) 14:37, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Crywolf
Hello WP Electronic music, I recently wrapped up my work on Draft:Crywolf about a decently successful experimental musician and would like to receive some feedback on it. I modelled his page off of Mothica due to them kinda existing in the same sphere online so I'm hoping to match that article's C-class rating at the minimum. Crywolf is redlinked from a couple obscure places but appears to have been speedy deleted over lack of significance so if anyone could quickly confirm mine passes both significance and notability that would be much appreciated in particular.Orchastrattor (talk) 02:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Mike Dred for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mike Dred is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Mike Dred until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Box of wolves (feed) 04:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Unfold (song) into Nurture (album)
I've opened a merge discussion at Talk:Unfold (song) that concerns this WikiProject. I'd appreciate any input from members! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:36, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Madonna bibliography
What are criteria for Articles section? Artist such Madonna should have thousands of articles every dekade. Eurohunter (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks like this is just for articles written by Madonna, not just about her. Remainsuncertain (talk) 20:29, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Underscores article
I'm working on an article for Underscores & would love some feedback / help working on it - I submitted it for review through AfC (since I'm relatively new to editing and wanted to be sure I was getting it right) & was declined for sourcing and notability.

I see the issues w sourcing - I used several self-published sources as sources on themselves, but some of them were admittedly iffy. I took out the ones that I think were problematic; there are still two self-published sources in the draft (references 11 & 15), and I'd really appreciate it if someone could take a look and let me know if those two are acceptable as sources on herself.

As far as notability goes, I'm a little confused - I asked the reviewer for clarification, but haven't gotten a response, so I'd also appreciate some other experienced editors' input. I based the article on the notability guideline "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." The published works in question are this article in Rolling Stone, this article in the Atlantic, this article (along with others) in Ones To Watch (which is an established & reliable newsblog), and this article (along with others I didn't include, since I thought I had established notability) by The Fader. Since the rule of thumb I've seen is three published works, I thought this was more than enough - thoughts?

I have other questions about how to improve this article, but I want to make sure it's notable enough in the first place before I waste anyone's time with all that. Thanks so much to anyone who can help! Remainsuncertain (talk) 03:37, 19 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The sources you identify above do clearly establish notability. You shouldn't need to remove iffy sources to get AFC approval. However, acceptance standards tend vary with individual AFC reviewers and can make AFC feel like an unpredictable gauntlet. Sorry about this. I have resubmitted and accepted the draft. Thanks and congratulations. Please feel free to continue to make improvements in mainspace. ~Kvng (talk) 16:19, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Awesome!! Thanks so much for your help, and no worries at all. Sidenote: would you be willing to explain what you mean by "You shouldn't need to remove iffy sources to get AFC approval?" Thanks again!! Remainsuncertain (talk) 19:05, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * WP:AFC is looking for reasonable drafts on notable subjects. The drafts must be free of WP:CV and severe WP:NPOV issues. WP:BLP drafts require some additional care. Use of iffy references is an article quality issue and poor article quality is not a good reason for an AFC submission to be declined. Article quality will be improved by a diversity of skilled editors working in mainspace. Quaity is much less likely to be improved in draft space. ~Kvng (talk) 16:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Ahhhh got it. Thanks!! Remainsuncertain (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Updates to Bassnectar
Hi - I've just rewritten the bulk of Bassnectar and am hoping to get some feedback on the changes. I would also like to request a re-assessment of the page in terms of importance and rating, with at least C rating and mid importance. Thanks in advance, I appreciate the help and discussion. Pdubs.94 (talk) 17:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Over-classification of entries related to The Future Sound of London
Hello all, I am reviewing articles by importance to gain a better understanding of the classifications assigned. However, I am seeing a trend I think is worth discussing. There are many articles related to The Future Sound of London (FSOL) and Brian Dougans that are noted of "Top Importance"


 * Expander (song)
 * Earthbeat (The Future Sound of London album)
 * Dead Cities (album)
 * ISDN (album)
 * Tales of Ephidrina
 * The Far-Out Son of Lung and the Ramblings of a Madman
 * The Isness
 * Global (Humanoid album)
 * Papua New Guinea (song)
 * The Peppermint Tree and Seeds of Superconsciousness
 * Stakker Humanoid

In review of other non-FSOL-related articles noted as Top Importance, such as Minimoog, Daft Punk, Tiësto, Wendy Carlos, or even the Roland TR-808 (classified as High Importance), all provide context as to why they are so important. FSOL articles do not appear to do this.

If an article merits Top Importance, it's relevance should at minimum be stated as part of its intro paragraph. Until these articles can be revised to include this context and highlight their importance, I suggest they are reclassified to a lower tier. Pdubs.94 (talk) 18:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)


 * I run across this occasionally. I assume it is a misunderstanding on the part of the original article creator. It looks like you have corrected these. I think you missed Stakker Humanoid. I have taken care of that. ~Kvng (talk) 15:18, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Stereotype (Karl Wolf album) for deletion
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Nomination of Let Go (KMFDM album) for deletion
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Requested move at Talk:Courting
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Courting that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)