Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elements/Option 10 edits todo

This page lists edits & checks to be done when option 10 is definitive.
 * Content discussion: option 10 Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements
 * Edits todo discussion: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements

Please follow these edit habits:
 * Note in the edit summary something like "polyatomic", "diatomic" or maybe "option 10" to signal your edit.
 * Mark a template or page with a done (shows ✅) in this list.
 * "prep" says that the /sandbox page is prepared for the change. That means the /sandbox code is new-category fit (just copy-paste!)
 * Check the effect in article space freshly
 * When it says "prep rm /sandbox", that means in the code there are "/sandbox" subtemplate calls that must be removed (delete all "/sandbox" from the sandbox code before saving that in live code)-DePiep (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Polyatomic nonmetal
 * Diatomic nonmetal

Content, links and redirects to be edited
These edits take some attention.
 * Page nonmetal from User:Sandbh/sandbox prep ✅ by Sandbh and . This marks de closure of the discussion. -DePiep (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Content pages to check for naming, phrasing & wording:
 * Post-transition metal
 * Poor metal
 * Halogen
 * Other nonmetal (link to nonmetal?) ✅
 * Write a page on commons about the two schemes, to prevent confusion on other wikis.
 * Words "post-transition metal" in articles to be replaced with "poor metal". (the list may have a delay)
 * Wording "other non(-)metal" in articles to be removed somehow. (the list may have a delay)

Some articles use old category names & colors hardcoded (without a PT template), possibly in a wikitable. We cannot list them completely (though searchwords may help, linked above). These pages need the edits too. Also our Project pages are not listed here.
 * Article pages uncontrolled

To move

 * Poor metal switch with post-transition metal (the PTM page to become a Redirect) . Requested article move . Needs admin action. -DePiep (talk) 12:03, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ with history merge problem, see Talk:Poor_metal -DePiep (talk) 12:24, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


 * StringTheory11 (t • c) 21:56, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Premature, partly (topic needs complete check after decision) -DePiep (talk) 22:11, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Periodic table
Edits: See standard PT diff.

- 'post-transition' &rarr; 'poor' (8+4 predicted = 12x) - 'other nonmetal' (7) &rarr; 'polyatomic nonmetal' or 'diatomic nonmetal' - 'halogen' &rarr; 'polyatomic nonmetal' or 'diatomic nonmetal' (but: group 17 stays a 17 link) - astatine into 'metalloid' (1x) - If 117 (Uus) is marked 'halogen', then change into 'metalloid (predicted)' - but do not add it. Category name can be plural. Singular is preferred as standard ("this element is a poor metal"), unless the whole table uses plural. Capitalisation: not relevant (is set always throught the template) Do not change the legend Category code. In extended PTs (Pyykkö) also to edit: - Uus (117) into 'metalloid (predicted)' (1x) - Usu (171) into 'diatomic nonmetal (predicted)' (1x) - 'post-transition metal (predicted)' into 'poor metal (predicted)' (4x) There are four periodic table legend themes affected. They will be replaced by their /sandbox. See Periodic table legend/testcases for the differences.
 * Legend code change

Please proceed by these steps (to prevent forgetting pages, and keep mis-coloring olny short period)
 * Template editing process
 * 1) copy one legend /sandbox code into the live template page (e.g. Janet's)
 * 2) mark it done here
 * 3) edit each listed template for that legend (change element cells into "poor metal" etc.)
 * 4) edit summary: please add "polyatomic" or so to identify the edit's background
 * 5) mark the template done in the list here.
 * 6) next theme of the four (best to do the 'predicted' ones last)

This way an old legend version, with links to "other nonmetal" and "halogen", will not exist any more. After the legend edit, for a few days of transition, the old style colored cells will show the new legend links (incorrect categorisation), as long as the template cells are not edited into option 10. This is deemed acceptable.

Janet left step

 * WLH prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Templates
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Content pages
 * Alternative periodic tables
 * Charles Janet

PT compact

 * WLH (templates) prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Templates:
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * prep, rm "/sandbox" ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Some can have the legend outside of a PT template.
 * Content pages
 * WLH (article space)

Basic PT

 * (to allow text1= setting; see fullcategory-in-compact situation) prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * WLH template space prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

After the switchover (legend code change), check through these pages (The pages should not show old categories & colors any more):
 * Articles
 * Chemical element
 * Periodic table
 * Periodic table (vertical)
 * Periodic table (large version)
 * Periodic table (wide)
 * Symbol (chemical element)
 * P-block
 * Period (periodic table)
 * Periodic table (electron configurations)
 * Period 4 element
 * Period 6 element
 * Period 3 element
 * Electron affinity
 * Period 7 element
 * Relative atomic mass
 * List of elements
 * Extended periodic table (large version)
 * Wide periodic table (large version)

List of templates

 * 1)  check astatine ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:58, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 2)  check astatine ✅ -- nothing to edit. -DePiep (talk) 13:58, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 3)  check astatine ✅ -- nothing to edit. -DePiep (talk) 13:58, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 4)  ✅ Content edit and page move in template is done. -DePiep (talk) 12:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 5)  prep rm "/sandbox" ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 6)  no cats cat names ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 7)  todo cat names ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 8)  todo cat names ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 9)  prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 10)  no cats cat names ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 11)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 12)  todo (translate!)   -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 13)  prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 14)  prep. Maybe this one we want to use generic "nonmetal" only, not subcategorising in di/poly. (note: category "nonmetal" has a separate legend color (blueish), rarely used). We sure should add a Periodic table legend (Category or Metal–nonmetal). Not really related to option 10, the template itself needs attention. ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 15)  prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 16)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 17)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 18)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 19)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 20)  prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 21)  prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 22)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 23)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)  Translated by Double sharp -DePiep (talk) 15:12, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 24)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 25)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 26)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 27)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 28)  prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 29)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 1)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 2)  prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 3)  ✅ -DePiep (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

To be complete (also in project pages etc.) we'll have to check all uses of Category legend. It is a secondary check, article space is done through the above list. The transclusion can be in documentation, not int the template; we'll need to check these. Checks done, 's listed above.


 * 1)  no cats
 * 2)  no cats
 * 3)  no cats
 * 4)  no cats
 * 5)  no cats
 * 6)  no cats
 * 7)  no cats
 * 8)  no cats
 * 9)  uses isotopes index
 * 10)  no categories
 * 11)  no cats
 * 12)  no cats
 * 13)  no cats
 * 14)  prep rm "/sandbox"
 * 15)  no cats
 * 16)  no cats
 * 17)  no cats
 * 18)  no cats
 * 19)  no cats
 * 20)  no cats cat names
 * 21)  no cats
 * 22)  not p-block
 * 23)  no cats
 * 24)  no cats
 * 25)  astatine! ✅ not affested; alkaline mentioned
 * 26)  no cats
 * 27)  by NavPT
 * 28)  no cats
 * 29)  no cats
 * 30)  no cats
 * 31)  no cats
 * 32)  no cats
 * 33)  no cats
 * 34)  no cats
 * 35)  no cats
 * 36)  no cats
 * 37)  todo cat names
 * 38)  todo cat names
 * 39)  no cats
 * 40)  no cats
 * 41)  no cats
 * 42)  no cats
 * 43)  no cats
 * 44)  no cats
 * 45)  no cats
 * 46)  todo (translate!)
 * 47)  todo (translate!)
 * 48)  no cats cat names
 * 49)  by navPT
 * 50)  by navPT
 * 51)  no cats
 * 52)  no cats
 * 53)  prep
 * 54)  no new cats
 * 55)  no cats
 * 56)  no cats
 * 57)  no cats
 * 58)  prep
 * 59)  no cats
 * 60)  by navPT
 * 61)  no cats
 * 62)  no cats
 * 63)  no cats
 * 64)  by navPT
 * 65)  no cats
 * 66)  no cats
 * 67)  no cats
 * 68)  no cats
 * 69)  no cats
 * 70)  no cats
 * 71)  see the 4 legend subpages ✅
 * 72)  no cats
 * 73)  no cats
 * 74)  no cats
 * 75)  no cats
 * 76)  uses subtemplate
 * 77)  prep
 * 78)  no cats
 * 1)  by navPT
 * 2)  no cats
 * 3)  no cats
 * 4)  no cats
 * 5)  no cats
 * 6)  no cats
 * 7)  no cats
 * 8)  see the 4 legend subpages ✅
 * 9)  no cats
 * 10)  no cats
 * 11)  no cats
 * 12)  no cats
 * 13)  uses subtemplate
 * 14)  prep
 * 15)  no cats
 * 1)  uses subtemplate
 * 2)  prep
 * 3)  no cats

Predicted
These pages need the 'extended' edits too:
 * WLH prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Templates
 * prep rm "/sandbox" ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Content pages
 * Unbinilium
 * Ununennium
 * Extended periodic table
 * Period 8 element
 * Unbihexium
 * Unbiunium
 * Superactinide
 * Unbibium
 * Unbiquadium
 * Unbiseptium
 * Period 9 element
 * Extended periodic table (large version)

Hardcoded colors

 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- no non nonmetals at all; blocks
 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:34, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:49, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Atomic electron configuration table

Template:Element color directly used in article

 * Not through template, so cannot be detected automatically.

Possibly/likely:
 * Symbol (chemical element)
 * Period 1 element
 * Period 2 element
 * Period 3 element
 * Period 4 element
 * Period 5 element
 * Period 6 element
 * Period 7 element
 * Period 8 element
 * Period 9 element

Infoboxes


To edit: ... into new category name. (... might be set to overrule the color).

To edit: add (H example) Electron shell 001 Hydrogen (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg


 * Astatine
 * Ununseptium (do not set the image name)
 * all poor metals (do not set the image name)
 * all 'other metals'
 * all halogens


 * Element infobox/headers
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * NavPeriodicTable (micro)
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * prep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Pages not to be edited

 * Talkpages, archives, userspace, ...
 * Old legend templates (not used any more, and in talkpages & archives they better show up old style as intended).
 * All all old templates
 * {T links|Periodic tables key}

Pages not in contentspace

 * WikiProject Elements/Legends prep in my /sandbox10 DePiep ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Userbox
 * User:Snuffles72/Userbox/memorizedpt Now uses File:Periodic Table overview (wide).svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 12:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 21:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Images

 * Incomplete list

Problem: this is used on many wikis. We cannot change that color scheme file and push it to the others. So we created a new file File:Periodic table (polyatomic).svg for the en:wp and its categorisation. It is used in these articles (content space), so they have to get the file renamed:
 * PT
 * File:Periodic table.svg make like File:Periodic6.jpg - svg prep is on my local (user:DePiep) : we cannnot overwrite the colors when other wikis use this same image. -DePiep (talk) 10:37, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Chemistry ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Main group element ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Periodic table ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Table of nuclides (segmented, narrow) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Table of nuclides (combined) ✅ Wikimedia error. Time overflow, page is too big (must retry later) -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC) ~Seems to have worked allright. New image is present. -DePiep (talk) 15:48, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol (chemical element) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Group (periodic table) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Nonmetal ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Valence electron ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The Elements (song) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Table of nuclides (segmented, wide) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 2011 in science ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Book:Periodic table ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Book:Chemical elements (sorted by number) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Book:Chemical elements (sorted alphabetically) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 11:11, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Super heavy elements.svg &rarr; File:Super heavy elements (polyatomic).svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 15:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Electron shells
 * commons Kernel colors for old halogens, old other non-metals (electron shell images in the infobox)
 * Trouble in paradise. These images are used in dozens of wikis, all using the old categories (so H should stay old green for their "other nonmetal" usage). See discussion.
 * Solved: the new colors are in a different file (not overwriting). To be called separately in the Hydrogen infobox:
 * Electron shell 001 Hydrogen (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg
 * overrules the automatic name.

green to new yellow
 * File:Electron shell 001 Hydrogen - no label.svg - File:Electron shell 001 Hydrogen (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC) Electron shell 001 Hydrogen (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg" category (as used in en:wp).]]
 * File:Electron shell 007 Nitrogen - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 007 Nitrogen (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Electron shell 008 Oxygen - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 008 Oxygen (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

new yellow
 * File:Electron shell 009 Fluorine - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 009 Fluorine (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Electron shell 017 Chlorine - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 017 Chlorine (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Electron shell 035 Bromine - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 035 Bromine (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Electron shell 053 Iodine - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 053 Iodine (diatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

new green
 * File:Electron shell 006 Carbon - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 006 Carbon (polyatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Electron shell 015 Phosphorus - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 015 Phosphorus (polyatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Electron shell 016 Sulfur - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 016 Sulfur (polyatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Electron shell 034 Selenium - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 034 Selenium (polyatomic nonmetal) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

brown (metalloid)
 * File:Electron shell 085 Astatine - no label.svg use File:Electron shell 085 Astatine (metalloid) - no label.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 10:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * 117 is grey so no change for now. -- nothing done.

Usually they are used in other wikis too -- same problem.
 * Alternative PTs
 * File:ADOMAH periodic table - electron orbitals.svg use File:ADOMAH periodic table - electron orbitals (polyatomic).svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:41, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:ADOMAH periodic table.svg (not used on en:wp) ❌ -DePiep (talk) 13:41, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:ADOMAH periodic table (horizontal) - electron orbitals.svg (not used on en:wp) ❌ -DePiep (talk) 13:41, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:ADOMAH periodic table (horizontal).svg (not used on en:wp) ❌ -DePiep (talk) 13:41, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Elementspiral.svg use File:Elementspiral (polyatomic).svg ✅ colored by -DePiep (talk) 21:43, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Periodic Table (standard, overview).svg use File:Periodic Table overview (standard).svg with new category colors ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Wide Periodic Table.svg use File:Periodic Table overview (wide).svg with new category colors ✅ -DePiep (talk) 13:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Uses a totally different table (we have no source)
 * Also
 * File:Decay Chain(4n+1, Neptunium Series).svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Diatomic molecules periodic table.svg ✅ -DePiep (talk) 09:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Chemical element
 * File:Periodic table large.png

Categories

 * rm Category:Post-transition metals ✅ made empty -DePiep (talk) 22:47, 21 August 2013 (UTC) -- redirect now. ✅ -DePiep (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep & check Category:Poor metals (they are filled both) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Check Category:nonmetals ✅ -DePiep (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Create Category:diatomic nonmetals and Category:Polyatomic nonmetals ✅ -DePiep (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * See also Category:Metalloids (At) ✅ -DePiep (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Done some other recategorisation too (cleanup). ✅ -DePiep (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Todo September 2013

 * We should check for undesired transclusions of files and templates. Since the overviews may have a delay (e.g. from commons), we'll wait for four or eight weeks. Then the WLH's will have caught up. -DePiep (talk) 12:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Diatomic molecules periodic table.svg -DePiep (talk) 22:15, 31 August 2013 (UTC)