Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Figure Skating/Archive 7

Requesting an assessment
Is there a direct link to a list where I can add an article for a new assessment? All I can find are the parameters for how to assess an article, which is all well and good, but I don't want to assess the article I revised myself. Thank you for your help. --Sephiroth9611 (talk) 15:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Which is better? Sortable rank or rank place score unsortable?

 * rank plus score unsortable
 * 2011 World Junior Figure Skating Championships


 * rank sortable without score
 * 2010 NRW Trophy

Qwerty786 (talk) 00:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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Requesting an assessment
Is there a direct link to a list where I can add an article for a new assessment? All I can find are the parameters for how to assess an article, which is all well and good, but I don't want to assess the article I revised myself. Thank you for your help. --Sephiroth9611 (talk) 15:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I would also very much like to know how to get an article reassessedJcflnj (talk) 18:32, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Which is better? Sortable rank or rank place score unsortable?

 * rank plus score unsortable
 * 2011 World Junior Figure Skating Championships


 * rank sortable without score
 * 2010 NRW Trophy

Qwerty786 (talk) 00:11, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Your opinions and advice
A recently discussion WikiProject Council/Proposals/Women's Sport. Your opinions and your advice are welcome. --Geneviève (talk) 18:00, 26 March 2011 (UTC) We are enthusiastic SENIOR CITIZEN figure skater watchers during the Competitions. We would like to mention that the NUMBER MARKS shown on T.V. when the Competitors are skating are very difficult to read in the small box provided. Many of us have difficulty seeing the numbers! We think it's possible for the numbers to be enlarged as there is much more room on the T. V. Screen to provide the increase in size. Since the majority of people are now in their senior years, we think this should have a priority.

Would you kindly consider this change on the weekends for all we seniors who have more time to watch these events than younger persons. Thank you in advance for your consideration of this suggestion.

Yours truly, Lynda G. Joly email address lynda_joly@yahoo.ca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.10.229.109 (talk) 19:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

"a Euler"
At talk:figure skating jumps no one has yet answered the question I posted on October 10th. Can someone here answer it? Michael Hardy (talk) 18:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Help, please! (Reassessment)
If anyone out there wouldn't mind reassessing an article, please respond to plea! Thank you very much!Jcflnj (talk) 17:31, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Notability of clubs
Would it make sense to add to the Criteria supporting notability of skating clubs to include Club is or has been the home club of many coaches who are notable skaters? If there are many coaches who are also notable skaters, it would be  important for encyclopedia to have an article about that club, right? That would be the similar reason to why it is notable for a club with many notable skaters trained there. Z22 (talk) 16:55, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport
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WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Figure Skating will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in figure skating history. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:16, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Template:National Figure Skating Championships
Isn't this template a bit to wide because of the one-line list of euro-nations ? Couldn't that be spread into 2 or maybe even 3 lines maybe? I would do it, but I'm not sure how to divide it. Could someone fix it ? --Migrant (talk) 16:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Done.Hergilei (talk) 13:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Figure Skating/Notability
I think there should be more discussion of the "criteria supporting notability". I would like to see the criteria expanded. Here are my proposals:


 * 8) Qualified for the Junior Grand Prix Final
 * 9) Won more than one medal on the ISU Junior Grand Prix (not necessarily gold)
 * 10) Met the ISU's minimum score for the senior World Championships (this one is fairly high compared to the other minimums)
 * 11) In the top 30 on the ISU's season's best list (final list at season's end).

Please post your thoughts. Hergilei (talk) 13:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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Zamboni
The usage of Zamboni is under discussion, see talk:Zamboni -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 03:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

"Zamboni" and ice resurfacer
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Notability of theatre on ice teams
Theatre on ice is one of the two disciplines for team figure skating. So, it is good to clarify on criteria for the theatre on ice discipline. I modeled the criteria based on the notability of synchronized skating teams. The criteria in the second part in synchronized skating are not applicable to theatre on ice, so those are not included. Any other thoughts to add clarification to it? Z22 (talk) 16:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Team trophy results template for individual country pages at 2014 Winter Olympics
I came up with a table:


 * Team trophy

Let me know what you think. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about tables so I'll just comment on some minor details. Under pairs, it should be short program and free skating. For dance, short dance and free dance. I would also remove the capitalization in second words (see WP:MOSCAPS). So with the changes: Hergilei (talk) 20:27, 11 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Team trophy

Thanks! Will edit it in. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:31, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Medal templates
Several articles on figure skaters (eg Robin Cousins) have templates showing the skater's medal record both inside and outside the infobox. This seems to be a duplication and is not consistent with the practice across other Olympic sports, but another editor objected to my removing the second template from the Cousins article. Is there any legitimate reason why articles on figure skaters in particular should have this second set of templates? If not I would propose removing them. January ( talk ) 10:04, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Category:Medalists at ISU championships
This category says that it is a Figure skating category in the commenting-line «Medalists at International Skating Union figure skating champtionships», but as far as I know there are also held ISU Championships both in long track speed skating and short track speed skating. So where does those categories go then... in another category or should this category be more specified in its category-title ? Regards Migrant (talk) 11:44, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * My opinion: either this Category should be renamed "Medalists at ISU figure skating championships" or it should include the championship events in both kinds of speed skating. Considering I could not find any existing categories for speed skating world medalists (brief search by looking at categories of several world medalist speed skaters), it might be simpler to rename the category (unless there is someone interested in creating these categories). Kirin13 (talk) 13:44, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

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JGP Final
On WikiProject Figure Skating/Notability, does anyone object to changing criteria #7 for skaters to "Won a Junior Grand Prix event or qualified to the Junior Grand Prix Final." Qualifying to the JGP Final is harder than getting to the free skate at Junior Worlds (criteria #3), so I think that should count for notability. Regards, Kirin13 (talk) 08:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Caelen Dalmer
Dear skating experts: This article has quite a few citations to news reports about the subject, but they are not cited next to the appropriate events. Could someone who knows about this subject please improve the article by placing the citations? Thanks.&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 05:20, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Elena Radionova - 2013/14 LP
Hi - i'm hoping someone with better editing skills than I have can correct the box for Elena Radionova's wiki page re programs for her 2013/14 long program. That box had previously said she skated to the music from "Frida" (the movie) (and that was linked to the the film - the suggestion being she skated to the music from the soundtrack). It's been frequently quoted all over the place she skated to the soundtrack from Frida - but that's not accurate. Lena herself said the music wasn't from Frida (the film) when she said "The music actually is not from the movie Frida, but from a group named Frida, and someone arranged it especially for me."link Lena wasn't quite correct on that one. The music for that program was actually from Rope's Album 'Have You Met Miss Bates?' - the specific tracks from that album are "Frida" (where I think the confusion arose from) and "Spanish Swat"

I tried to correct the page (and just messing it up), I finally abandoned my efforts (although it's still not accurate). So - for the "free skating" box for 13/14, it should reflect she skated to selections from "Frida" and "Spanish Swat" from the album "Have You Met Miss Bates" by "Rope". Can someone with more sophisticated editing abilities than I have correct it? Emefaresee (talk) 06:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Presenting Challenger Series in the Competition Highlight table
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Consensus and update on notability guidelines
Hello. I found that there are a few differences in the notability guidelines between the figure skating section of Notability (sports) and what is described here, so I tried to update the Notability (sports) version. However, my modification got reverted. I discussed about the situation in the corresponding talk page, and found a few facts as follows:


 * They decided to adopt several Notability (sports) specific notability guidelines (SNGs) in the last year or two, since they felt some guidelines are too inclusive. In this detailed discussion, you would see why my modification got rejected.
 * Also, to modify the notability guidelines, the consensus should be reached at the talk page of Notability (sports), not by a particular WikiProject.

I feel this subject is too large for my own handling. I wonder what other editors think on this change of rules on the notability guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seameetsmountain (talk • contribs)
 * Yes the project one was replaced by WP:NSPORTS in 2010. If you look at the edit history of the project one it stopped being edited then pretty much. Really it needs to be marked historical or updated to match what is at WP:NSPORTS. You would have to look at the archived discussions that happened in 2010 through now at that guideline to see why it was changed from what had been here. -DJSasso (talk) 13:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I see, the two projects got diverged in 2010. With the notability guidelines of WP:NSPORTS, I expect a dozen pages on ISU Junior Grand Prix medalists should be removed, such as Vincent Zhou, Marin Honda, Alisa Fedichkina, Diana Pervushkina, Alexandra Proklova, and Polina Tsurskaya. - Seameetsmountain (talk) 06:23, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Well I haven't looked at those pages, but remember that WP:GNG overrides WP:NSPORTS. So as long as they have sufficient sources it doesn't matter if they are juniors. -DJSasso (talk) 14:50, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm concerned that many figure skaters could get deleted but we might be able to meet GNG for at least some of them. I believe that Marin Honda has received quite a bit of media coverage in Japan, for example. While I don't know any Japanese, Google Translate might help in locating some useful sources. However, we'll probably lose some JGP gold medalists since figure skating gets very little media coverage (as do most sports with a mainly female audience). It's much more difficult to demonstrate a skater's notability than for example, a baseball player. Hergilei (talk) 15:19, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Well nothing has really changed...these have been the standards for 5 years. The junior line was only added by someone a few months back after no discussion so there shouldn't be too many articles that are in danger but yes there will probably be some. -DJSasso (talk) 16:33, 26 November 2015 (UTC)