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April 2009 Roll Call

 * Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * &mdash; Deckiller 23:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * -- Pres N  02:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ost (talk) 14:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 20:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 16:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy IV FA status
FYI- Final Fantasy IV is in need of some maintenance or it could very easily be taken to FAR. The article falls under 4 cleanup categories, some of which have been dated for a while.
 * Articles with unsourced statements (Aug 2008)
 * Wikipedia articles with plot summary needing attention (Oct 2008)
 * Articles to be expanded (Jan 2009)
 * Articles with dead external links (Mar 2009)

At the very least, fixing the plot summary and dead links should buy it some more time, and are probably the least daunting of the list. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC))
 * Dead link now resolved. -- Pres N  23:04, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy FAR notification
nominated Final Fantasy for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 06:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Merger discussion
At WT:VG, we're jumpstarting our inactive/limited-scope project initiative, which is aimed at streamlining and centralizing video game coverage on Wikipedia. I can see from the archives that a previous proposal on this subject was held in December, but there wasn't much discussion. What I'd like to do is talk with members of the FF project and determine if you're interested in becoming a task force within WP:VG. I think you're doing great work, but the scope of this project is relatively small (the main page says 158 articles). Joining WP:VG would allow us to centralize discussion on Final Fantasy articles and hopefully expose all video game articles to a wider range of editors. The Square Enix project, while larger in scope than Final Fantasy, seems to be less active and I'll be contacting them as well. The way I look at it, there are several options:


 * Nothing happens. VG and FF remain as-is.


 * FF merges with VG and becomes the Final Fantasy taskforce.


 * FF and SE merge with VG and become the Final Fantasy taskforce.


 * FF and SE merge with VG and become the Square Enix taskforce. This would be the best option, in my opinion—it would create an ideal taskforce, one with a large scope and hopefully many active members.

Thoughts? —   Levi van Tine  ( t  –  c )   07:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks. — Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:08, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy (video game) attains Good Article status!
And with that GA, we're now up to 50 GAs, FAs, and FLs! -- Pres N  17:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Virtual Console/WiiWare
This bit of news is probably relevant to several of this project's articles. – Cyrus XIII (talk) 01:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Discography of the Chocobo series GAN
Discography of the Chocobo series is now at GAN. It is the last "discography of" article to go for that status, and when it passes, will leave only Music of Final Fantasy remaining to complete the full FF Music GoodTopic. -- Pres N  22:39, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow! You've done some great work with those articles! Would Discographies be the first Good Topic for this project? I'm unaware if there is more. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 00:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, FF8 is an FT (it's in trouble though) and FF12 is a GT, though my DoFF12 is in that last one. (I didn't do DoFF8, it's the only one to precede me.) -- Pres N  05:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like FF8's FT is out of trouble for the time being; Rinoa was merged. &mdash; Deckiller 02:15, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for assistance at Gameplay of Final Fantasy
I've been hard at work on this article over the past few days. It's not really my domain of expertise, but I've found a few great sources that discuss common parts of the gameplay in the series. This includes the battle system, certain character classes, magic, and even modes of transport.

The last part that's proving really hard is the stuff about equipment. Yes, it's true that most games in the series have a Genji Glove. But I can't verify that for the life of me. I'd like to verify this kind of thing without using 12 different strategy guides, if at all possible. But I wanted to see if any of you wanted to give it a shot.

Check out Gameplay of Final Fantasy and see what you can do. The prose could be improved, if nothing else. Randomran (talk) 01:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If anyone finds something talking about the music over the course of the series, pass it on as well- I'm finally working on Music of Final Fantasy, and I'd like more stuff to use to talk about the series as a whole, rather than just individual games. -- Pres N  01:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't recall if there was anything specific to the Final Fantasy series, but Nobuo Uematsu was interviewed in Nintendo Power a few issues ago. —Ost (talk) 15:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

The whole...constellation of "extra" Final Fantasy articles seems to have changed in the past week, let me see if I have this right:

Common elements of Final Fantasy was renamed to Character design of Final Fantasy, and everything in it that didn't fit was merged to Gameplay of Final Fantasy, which had originally split off from Common Elements back in November. Then, Recurring character names of Final Fantasy and Monsters of Final Fantasy were merged to Character design of Final Fantasy; leaving as the only side articles "Gameplay", "Character Design", "Character Classes", "Minigames", and "Music"- the ones that are listed at the bottom of the Final Fantasy series template. That all correct? -- Pres N  20:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds about right. The common elemets had become a potpouri. Over the course of a few months, we pulled a few parts out. Now the plot stuff is in the main final fantasy series article. The recurring character names and moogles and chocobos ended up in an article about characters. And everything else is in gameplay. I find that when articles have clearer scope, they tend to attract less original research. Randomran (talk) 20:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Crystal Defenders in our jurisdiction?
We should decide. :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:22, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooh, that's a toughie. I'm going to go with yes- it's set in Ivalice, a world explicitly defined only in FF games, so that makes it related enough to FF to count. -- Pres  N  06:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Vagrant Story is set in Ivalice too. I think Chrystal Defenders is like Kingdom Hearts; it uses assets and ideas from Final Fantasy but it's not officially Final Fantasy. Nomchan (talk) 11:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's definitely FF - as it prominently uses elements of the Tactics Advance / A2 series, right down to the Job costumes for each of the races. If that's not convincing enough, consider it being under Square Enix's Final Fantasy Mobile brand. &mdash; Blue. 12:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy V dropped from GA
FF5 has been delisted due to a lack of citations and a bit too detailed of a story section, meaning that currently FF2 and FF5 are our non-GA/FA main series articles. -- Pres N  17:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's too bad...Not to mention, FFIV will probably be delisted from FA unless any large improvements are done. I'd like to help out, but I have a few more article to work with, three of the main ones (Last Order: Final Fantasy VII, Characters of the Final Fantasy VII series, and Zack Fair) being Final Fantasy-related. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 18:32, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Music of the Final Fantasy series GAN
The keystone of the entire Final Fantasy music topic, Music of the Final Fantasy series, is now at GAN. All I can say is OMG 77 REFERENCES WTF. Please drop by to copyedit if you get a chance, after 16 FFMusic articles my eyes glaze over if I see the words "Final Fantasy" and "music" in the same paragraph. -- Pres N  04:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * And now, with 86 references, it's a GA! -- Pres N  03:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)