Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Florida/Archive 4

Bridges of Florida template
I've created a "Notable Bridges of Florida" template, et voila:

Would like some feedback on the choices before putting it on any pages, so fire away. - Aerobird 00:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Settlements?
Do Floridians think of their cities as settlements? Well, check out Category:Settlements in Florida that's as of today in your category hierarchy. I reverted it out for Kentucky, and I recommend all states do it as well. Kentucky uses "Subdivisions" and Massachusetts uses "Administrative divisions" (both reasonable). "Settlements" are for pioneer days, not for contemporary political subdivisions. Stevie is the man! Talk &bull; Work 04:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. It's all been undone. --Ebyabe 04:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

New articles
Dear Wikipedians, a list of possible Florida-related articles found by bot is available at User:AlexNewArtBot/FloridaSearchResult. Colchicum 14:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Florida proposal
I have created a brand new banner template to replace the current one we have. It's a modified version of the WPGR template I've worked extensively on, which in turn is based on other projects. This new template should be able to replace WikiProject Florida, WikiProject Florida category, WikiProject Florida template and could be expanded to handle WikiProject Florida image, through the class parameter. The template I created is located here: User:Kimon/WPFL.

I would also propose renaming the template to WPFL. What do the members here think? -- Kimon talk 21:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Love the idea of being able to assess Florida articles. If it's adopted, though, we should try getting a bot to maybe help in the assessment. Or if you could add the auto function, like WPBiography has, it'd help, 'cause I know there's lots of stubs. It should have the nested function, but I can add that if needed. Maybe naming it, to be more descriptive. Just my two cents. :) --Ebyabe 01:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure, WPFlorida sounds great. As for the auto parameter, sure I can add it but, will we have a bot to automatically assess the articles? -- Kimon talk 01:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I added the auto parameter and the listas parameter. I also added a check to see if we're in the talk page (like WPBiography. -- Kimon talk 17:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW, the nested parameter was already there. -- Kimon talk 17:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


 * So, is there a consensus? -- Kimon talk 23:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, since more than a couple of weeks have passed, I assumed consensus and therefore I've created the new template WPFlorida. There's still some work to be done on the assessment scale etc. but, I expect to have that completed soon. After that, I'll start replacing the WikiProject Florida, WikiProject Florida category, WikiProject Florida template on their respective articles with the new template. -- Kimon talk 17:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * All previous templates have been replaced with WPFlorida, include support for images. -- Kimon talk 14:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Latin cultures
Hello everyone! You may want to go to Latin cultures and participate in the article and discussion. There are a lot of disputed statements... The Ogre 12:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Alexander George Arbuthnot
A Florida related article that you may have been involved in editing, Alexander George Arbuthnot, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Alexander George Arbuthnot. Thank you. Kittybrewster  (talk) 13:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Florida Heartland Region
I was thinking of creating a new page for the Heartland, the region of Florida that covers Hardee, Highlands, southern Polk and by some definitions could include the entire rural area that stretches down to Desoto, Glades and Hendry counties as well... Sidestreamer (talk) 1:54 p.m., 12 May 2007 (EDT)


 * Heh. I have left messages at Category Talk:regions of Florida and Talk:Southwest Florida on this subject over the past two days. The Heartland consists of six counties: DeSoto, Glades, Hardee, Hendry, Highlands, and Okeechobee (and possibly Polk County as well). I have a page for Florida's Heartland in work at User:Horologium/Sandbox, although it's still quite rough. One of the sticking points for me is creating a map; I have used the templates available to create one, but it is a .jpg, and I don't know how to convert it back to an .svg image. I don't want to upload a .jpg when all of the other maps are .svg files.
 * Horologium talk - contrib 02:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I checked that page in the sandbox. It's a good start, but could use some corrections and additions that I can make if I can do them in your sandbox.  I don't know as much about the southern part of the Heartland without researching but I'm very familiar with Highlands County and we have a daily newspaper, a 3-times a week press and another weekly down in Lake Placid. Also, maybe a bit of discussion about the proposed Heartland Parkway?
 * Sidestreamer (talk) 5:31 p.m., 26 May 2007 (EDT)
 * For some reason, I wasn't "watching" this page, and I thought I was...
 * I provided the link to the sandbox for people to look at and to work on. I have no problem with project members going in and making corrections and expanding the article before we launch it. My biggest problems, as I noted, are the maps issue and the changes that will need to be made to the Southwest Florida page (including a new map). I have dinged the original creator of the maps (twice), but he's probably a little on the busy side. (He's one of the Wikimedia Foundation employees). I have a .jpg of the Heartland region saved on my computer, but I am a bit leery about uploading it, since all of the other maps are .svg formatted.
 * I left out the Heartland Parkway thing because it's just a proposal. The regional Airport proposal for DeSoto County falls under the same heading. Until the plans are set in place, let's not discuss them in the article. On a related note (see the next item), I have been busy on the Radio Stations, and have a lot of stubs for the Sebring market stations.
 * I have more familiarity with Highlands as well; My mother lives in Sebring, and her office is just north of the city, near Avon Park. I spent Christmas through Mid-February there, and became fairly familiar with the immediate area. I know little about the outlying counties. Horologium talk - contrib 06:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, Bastique has created a great map file for the Heartland region, so I am going to push this onto Wikipedia on Friday morning. If you want to take a look at it and make constructive edits, it is available at User:Horologium/Sandbox. At least one other editor has started contributing, and more eyes usually makes for a better article. Horologium talk - contrib 01:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and added some sections and adjusted the newspaper portion. I got to work on some other stuff at home but tomorrow if I have the time I'll try to expand on the economy section. Even though it's mostly agricultural I'd like to see if I can write a more analytical view of it. :::Sidestreamer (talk) 02:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I added the article and modified Template:Florida to include it. Horologium t-c 12:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

List of radio stations in Florida
I have been doing some work on this list, because it was a whole lot of nothing before I started. I'd like some input before I start changing data that is already in the list, because if I change things without discussing them, people might get quite upset.

When I started, there was no standardization for format. Every city (of the cities that had any entries at all) had its own format, and some of them are just plain ugly. I set up a couple of the smaller cities (starting with Gainesville) into a tabular format, which lines everything up neatly, yet is still not too difficult to update if changes need to be made.

I went through a couple of the templates as well (Gainesville-Ocala, Sebring, Lakeland-Winter Haven, Daytona Beach, and Melbourne-Titusville-Cocoa) and made sure that the stations on the template are actually in the market area. Daytona and Melbourne were overrun with Orlando stations, and Lakeland had a fistful of Tampa stations. It's still a work in progress, but if nobody objects, I'd like to convert the rest of the list to the tabular format I developed. I'd also like people in the various cities to go through and weed out stations that don't belong to that market. (I saw a Boynton Beach station in the Miami list, and a Sarasota station in Tampa). If you live in a city that doesn't have anything listed, help me out. Create articles (stubs at least) on the stations in your area, and sanity-check the templates to make sure they're correct. A useful reference for stations in the middle third of the state is Central Florida Radio, which has a lot of history behind the stations. Some of their links are still broken from a rebuild, but a lot of them work.

Thanks. Horologium talk - contrib 07:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Good job. :)
 * I'm currently going through the list to properly categorize those stations that aren't already in Category:Radio stations in Florida but should be. Cheers -- Seed 2.0 17:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've gone through and done all of the smaller markets; I'm going to take a deep breath before I dig into the "Big 6", because I have a feeling it's going to take a LONG time to do them. Horologium t-c 18:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Florida Regions adjustments
I've been looking at the Regions of Florida section, and there are a few areas that I think should be adjusted. I'd like to see if we can come up with some sort of consensus before I start making wholesale changes.

North Central Florida: the narrative includes Hamilton and Baker counties, both of which are not highlighted on the map. I'd like to move Baker County to First Coast, and create a new map for North Central Florida, adding Hamilton County to the map.

First Coast: The article already specifically mentions Baker County as part of the region, but the map doesn't have Baker County highlighted.

Central Florida: Remove the reference to Marion County. It's not highlighted on the map, and it is on the North Central Florida map, which is a much better fit. All of the Gainesville media refer to "Gainesville/Ocala/Lake City", which ties Marion to that region rather than to Central Florida. Include more information about Polk and Sumter Counties in the article; they are mentioned only is the intro as "sometimes" part of the region, and ignored after that. Lakeland and The Villages are both fairly sizable cities/CDPs that don't have any mention in a Florida regions article.

Suncoast: I think the region extends too far south; almost all of the references I found limit the Suncoast to Pinellas County, and the neighboring counties to the north, south and east. There might be a little overlap for Pasco and Hernando counties (which are also part of the Nature Coast), but Collier, Lee, and Charlotte Counties should definitely not be included in the Suncoast. They are clearly part of Southwest Florida. Sarasota and Manatee counties could be split either way, although my inclination would be to include them in the Suncoast, and remove them from the SW Florida section. If we include Pasco and Hernando, we can make the Tampa Bay Area a subregion of the Suncoast, like the Orlando Area is a subregion of Central Florida, and the Emerald Coast is a subregion of the Florida Panhandle. I'd also like to alter the map to include entire counties, rather than just the coastal strip.

Southwest Florida: I'd like to strip a lot of counties from this region, sending Sarasota and Manatee Counties to the Suncoast, and Desoto, Hendry, and Glades counties to the Florida Heartland. Collier, Lee and Charlotte Counties form a single media area (radio and TV), and they are fairly distinct from the other counties surrounding them.

Gold Coast: I'd like to make this a subregion of South Florida, since it is simply the coastal region from Palm Beach to Miami.

South Florida: I'd like to add the Florida Keys, if not all of Monroe County, to this region, since they are tied fairly closely to Miami and Dade county.

Treasure Coast: I'd like to move Okeechobee County from this region to the Florida Heartland (which already includes it), since most of the references I have seen for the Treasure Coast are limited to Martin, St. Lucie, and Indian River counties. The Florida Heartland page did not exist when Okeechobee County was tossed into the Treasure Coast, and think that it was just a case of looking for a home that drew Okeechobee into it. On a cultural basis, Okeechobee is certainly closer to the Heartland than to the Treasure Coast.

I am trying to ensure that all of Florida is included in one region, and I am trying to remove as much overlap as possible. There are several counties that could be assigned to more than one region (Jefferson, Pasco/Hernando, Sarasota/Manatee, DeSoto/Glades/Hendry, and Okeechobee) and one or two that don't fit very well into any region at all (Sumter, Monroe), but my proposals limit the overlap as much as possible, move two regions into subregions, and make a home for every county in the state. As with the Florida Heartland, I need help from someone who can make .svg maps of the regions, but if I can get maps, I'll take on the writing tasks, which are fairly minimal. Horologium t-c 02:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Good Article nomination
I have submitted Coral Springs, Florida as a good article nominee. Its nomination can be found in this section, should you be interested. Horologium t-c 01:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Coral Springs, Florida has been selected as a good article. Another one for the project.Horologium t-c 22:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/Miami 2
New wikimeetup Miami set for around late August, if anyone is intrested. We need to set a place in the talk page though. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 21:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes
This WikiProject doesn't seem to be terribly active, but perhaps a not-too-difficult but fairly important project will energize the group.

I was looking at the list of the biggest cities (in the Florida template) and discovered that there are quite a few of the cities in the 50,000-100,000 range that have no infobox. (16 cities in all, plus 8 unincorporated areas). I've been adding infoboxes to Florida cities that I have edited, but perhaps we could have a task force set up to knock out the rest. The condition of some of the "important cities" articles is embarrassing (take a look at Palm Bay, Florida as an example; that needs a total rewrite), but adding infoboxes is something that is not too difficult and should be a basic requirement of an article before it passes stub stage. These cities need infoboxes:


 * Boynton Beach, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 21:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Bradenton, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 23:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Daytona Beach, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 02:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delray Beach, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 23:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Deltona, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 17:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Kissimmee, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 14:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Largo, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Cary Bass demandez 22:39, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Lauderhill, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 00:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Margate, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 01:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Palm Bay, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Article needs a full rewrite, though. Horologium t-c 20:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Palm Coast, Florida[[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 21:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Port Orange, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 21:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sarasota, Florida - Done. S up? 10:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Tamarac, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 00:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wellington, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 17:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weston, Florida [[Image:Symbol keep vote.svg|15px]] Done. Horologium t-c 03:32, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Use the Infobox Settlement template, rather than the deprecated city infobox template.

There are dozens of smaller cities that don't have infoboxes either, but they're not quite as urgent. I've added infoboxes to DeLand, Gainesville (which was by far the largest city without one) and Sebring over the weekend, and will probably tackle some of the four in Broward County. Horologium t-c 13:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, all of the incorporated cities on the template have infoboxes now. Thanks to Cary Bass and S for the assist. Now maybe it's time to take a look at that template and think about removing some of the smaller entries, or perhaps the unincorporated locations. Horologium t-c 23:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

How to join?
Although I am a wikieditor, I am constantly confounded by the jumble of instruction and tutorial throughout the site. So here I am asking how I join the Florida project. I watch and add what I can to Kingsley Plantation, and think the Rosewood Massacre article is entirely too short. I'm in Gainesville. Let me know what I can do! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moni3 (talk • contribs).

Deletion sorting
Notifications of articles nominated for deletion currently are listed on the main page and here on the talk page. Is there an intention of using the deletion sorting page as the main notification focal point, or is the intention to maintain three separate notification areas? --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 08:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Barrier Islands; Need Template: Need separate article on Barrier Islands
I've done several articles on barrier islands: Anna Maria Island, Florida, Hutchinson Island, Florida and Orchid Island, Florida and feel the need for a Template to list the Barrier Islands of Florida from the St. Mary's River to the Perdido River. Is anyone else interested in helping on this? Also I not happy with the article on Shoals which barrier island links to. I don't think shoals aptly descibes the barrier islands we have in Floridaand probably the other Gulf coast states. Any feedback? clariosophic 21:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC) clariosophic 21:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC) clariosophic 02:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Florida State Parks - FREE ADMISSION
Sorry to shout, but wanted folks to know. This Saturday (the 8th), all the parks are celebrating International Literacy Day (which is actually the day before, I think) with free admission. You just have to have a library card or checked out library book. More info at the official site, http://www.floridastateparks.org/default.cfm. I've heard this may be for the entire month, but this Saturday is definite. This would be a great opportunity to get park pics, doncha know.

Also, I've started laying some groundwork for List of Florida state parks to be a featured list. Mostly by adding a map to the page. Other contributions would be lovely. Got inspired b/c there's an effort to that effect at List of Minnesota state parks. Hey, our park system is the only one to win the Gold Medal Award twice from the National Recreation and Parks Association. So yay us. :) -Ebyabe 00:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Aerial photos?
Hello, I have been active lately in contacting photographers on flickr to see if they will re-license some of their encyclopedic photos under the creative commons license. Several of them have been kind enough to do so. I am currently in touch with a gentleman who lives in central Florida who has taken some very nice aerial photos. He has asked if there are any specific photos we need in the central Florida area.

I told him that I thought an aerial photo of Walt Disney World Resort would be very nice. He explained that there is a no-fly zone around the resort, but that he has been able to get permission to over-fly it in the past and that he may be able to do so again. If he can do so, is there any particular property we would like photographed?

He is open to other suggestions in the Central Florida area also. No guarantees, of course. Please let me know if I should ask him about anything in particular. Thanks, Johntex\talk 17:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Aerial pictures of many of the lakes in Central Florida would be excellent additions to the articles for the lakes in question. (Lake Apopka, Lake Istokpoga, Lake Tohopekeliga, Lake Jackson, Lake Harris) Downtown Orlando only has one picture, (taken during a thunderstorm, it's not the best picture for the infobox); for that matter, almost all of the small-to-medium size cities need pictures of their downtown areas. Sebring, to the south, would benefit greatly from an aerial view of Sebring Circle (at the center of its downtown); it's not something that can be photographed well from ground level (I've tried), but the circle-and-spoke layout would be readily apparent from an aerial shot. Horologium t-c 18:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Bradenton reporting in!
Hi guys, i'm working on Bradenton and the surrounding areas, if anyone would like to look it over or add any of their knowledge, have at it. Best of luck to all of you! bigdawgs9 07:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Florida Atlantic University
I'm having Florida Atlantic University undergo a peer review before taking it to WP:FAC. I was wondering if you anyone would mind taking a look at the article? If so, please go here to offer any advice/suggestions.

Thanks, KnightLago 21:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Lawton Chiles
This otherwise very good article is in desperate need of references and citations, having a sum total of...none. Being a former resident of the great state of Florida, I thought I would come here first and ask that the project give it some attention, rather than just slapping a "no references" tag on it. Also, if someone does look at it, the article doesn't mention how he died. Considering he was only 68 at the time of his death, I think readers would probably want to know what happened. I'll check back in a week or so to see if it's been improved. Jeffpw 10:36, 21 October 2007 (UTC)