Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink/Archive 38

Article renaming discussion
You are invited to participate in a discussion at. Only four editors have been involved so far, and while they agree the article should be renamed, they disagree about the best new name. YBG (talk) 04:26, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Tarte tropézienne, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Please weigh in at Talk:Tarte_Tropézienne. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Category:Gluten-free restaurants has been nominated for discussion
Category:Gluten-free restaurants, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:42, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Importance assessment in this WikiProject
Hello. I notice that products of regional fast food companies are given high importance ranking in this WikiProject's assessment.

Can someone say more about how importance rankings work here? I imagined that if something was ranked as "high importance", then it would have global relevance or at least represent an entire culture.

Here are some example articles currently ranked as high importance.
 * Burger King products
 * Nathan's Famous
 * McDonald's legal cases

Why is regional fast food ranked on par with articles like these?
 * Japanese cuisine
 * Grapefruit
 * Tin can

, you had comments about this elsewhere. What is the relationship between importance and global relevance here?  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  11:26, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello BR, these companies are by no means regional. McDonald's, Burger King, and Starbucks are major, multi-national companies with close to 70,000 aggregated locations across the three firms that generate billions in annual revenues. McD's (31,000+ locations) and BK (15,000+ locations) are the two largest fast food burger chains globally, and Starbucks is the largest coffee chain globally (24,000+ locations). Nathans is also a global chain hot dog chain and is the largest hot dog fast food chain in the world (1,500+ locations).


 * What I believe your failing to understand is that WP:Food covers not just cuisines and the cultural aspects of food but also the modern food service business (restaurants, manufacturers and retailers), food safety and legislation (McDonald's/Burger King legal cases articles, FAT TOM), food-related media (FoodTV), food science (pH, Water activity), et al. The importance ratings reflect this broad coverage of food related coverage. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 17:04, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

RM notification 29 July 2024
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Cooler (alcoholic beverage), regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, — Sam Sailor Talk! 18:12, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:Somalian cuisine has been nominated for renaming
Category:Somalian cuisine has been nominated for renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. —  AjaxSmack  00:14, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

2 questions
Based upon the last sentence in the 2nd lead paragraph of beta-Hydroxy beta-methylbutyric acid, does this article fall within the scope of this WikiProject? If so, what importance ratings should be assigned to it?

Secondly, does this project have a style advice page or does a MOS guideline subpage exist that corresponds with this project's scope?  Seppi  333  (Insert 2¢) 05:17, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply. (So to speak -- a very late reply :/) For the first question, it's not a foodstuff and it's only related to a bit of a type of food -- it's kind of like putting chemicals under our scope since it's in wine and whatnot. As for the second question -- I and the other project coordinators will work on it; but it'll take some time, as we've never pulled a stunt like this before. Thanks for the idea!  Wiki Pancake  ✉ 📖 13:50, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Big deletions on okra
A whole section titled "Regional preparations" on okra was deleted today. The assertion was that they were unsourced, however, there are so many food articles similarly written, I wanted to post a notice here. How different regions typically prepare a particular food would seem typical information for an encyclopedia.

Additionally, a couple years ago, user Alexbrn removed a section titled "Medicinal properties", asserting it was weakly sourced even though the deleted paragraphs appeared sourced. What is Wikipedia's policy regarding medicinal uses of foods? Are such sections directed to be removed specifically to avoid making health claims for particular foods?

I even find myself wondering if the two deletions, in spite of the two year period, are somehow related. If an unfamiliar food is used for particular health reasons, how it is typically prepared in various regions of the globe would seem educational, and a desire to censor such information should be resisted.

I'm not as active as I used to be, and am not sure I'd like to invest the time to challenge the deletions, nor is it my area of expertise.

Gzuufy (talk) 02:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The general guidelines for anything dealing with medicine is WP:MEDRS. Be aware however that there is a group of editors that have a very particular view of WP:MEDRS when it comes to food, Alexbrn being one of them, it appears to be their view that basically all medical usages of food falls under WP:FRINGE, regardless of the quality of research done on the subject. You may be able to get things that don't adhere to their particular view of what is medicine and/or medical research but that IS well sourced in review papers in reliable medical journals and/or well sourced as being a folk practice regardless of actual medical application by placing it under a folk medicine or medical research section or something similar and being very careful with wording. Asking in Wikiproject medicine to get more objective editors can help.


 * The typical regional preparation probably shouldn't have been removed, though additional citations are needed. Falconjh (talk) 22:19, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Cracker peanuts?
I seriously cannot find the article for those peanuts that are surrounded by a cracker-like shell. (Example brand: Nagaraya) Does the page just not exist? I've tried Cracker nuts, beer nuts and Nagaraya. 203.177.20.172 (talk) 09:42, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Check out Cracker nuts, which I just created. North America1000 18:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * So is that what they're actually called? Cracker nuts? 116.93.23.41 (talk) 08:54, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * From my research, I believe so, per what reliable sources report. For example, Google News presently has no results for the phrase "cracker peanuts" (link). However, "cracker nuts" does provide some coverage in reliable sources. North America1000 01:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * They are called Nagaraya cracker nuts and they come in a variety of different flavors! Jendl1794 (talk) 16:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)jendl1794, 25 September 2016

Request
I am looking for people who can help me check and complete a list of translations of beef meat cuts from Hebrew into English, Russian and Dutch on my website. Debresser (talk) 12:16, 5 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Note, I just made to change to commons:File:British Beef Cuts.svg because an edit (all the way back in 2014) seems to have erroneously switched the topside and silverside cuts. I see your site is using the incorrect version.Jason Quinn (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Replaced. Thanks. Debresser (talk) 00:17, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Capicola move request
I have opened a formal RM move request for a discussion on the title of the capicola article. Please weigh in here if you are interested in participating. —  AjaxSmack  13:48, 20 September 2016 (UTC)