Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Sweden task force

Task force created
I've created this task force after consensus was reached and five members expressed interest to join at WikiProject Council/Proposals/WikiProject Football/Sweden task force. Feel free to join the task force by adding yourself to the participants section. Thanks! --Reckless182 (talk) 17:56, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have progressively less time to use WP, so I apologise in advance if I'm not much help. Feel free to give me a prod on my talk page if I ever become dormant! — Half  Price  18:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Getting some content on the board
I'm an active member of WP:FLC, and voiced my support for this task force. I was wondering, is there any interest in getting some of our more important lists, such as List of Sweden international footballers and List of Swedish football champions, back up to featured list standards? If you check out the history of WP:SOUNDERS, what has kept that project moving forward is the constant focus on a few articles, and taking them up to as high a standard as possible. I think a similar approach here would be a good way to get this place up and running. Regards, —WFC— 11:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The articles you mention should definitely be top priority to promote back up to FA, it shouldn't be very hard if a few people worked on it. Thanks for the suggestion! --Reckless182 (talk) 15:29, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This talk force has been too quiet for too long, how about we do something about it? Lets pick a club-neutral article and start working on it! Cheers Tooga - BØRK! 22:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Club neutral sounds good. Okay, how about this as the starting point, and this as the finish line? —WFC— TFL notices 23:03, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe this one is closer to FL, but the list you suggested definitely needs work as well. Maybe we should put up a "to do" list of club neutral lists and articles that we could work on? --Reckless182 (talk) 07:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I haven't been able to get any work done today, I'll try to do some tomorrow. A to do list would be a great idea. Cheers Tooga - BØRK! 21:08, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll see what I can put together tomorrow. --Reckless182 (talk) 21:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Update, I have now made a new section in this group named "focus articles" where i've written down club neutral lists and articles which we can improve. --Reckless182 (talk) 09:29, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Allsvenskan season articles
I have undertaken some tidying up of Allsvenskan season articles, in particular from 1932/33 to 1990. Each page should now have a primary and secondary infobox and improved table. There is a lot of potential for further additions with sections on goal-scorers, attendances etc using SFS if anyone is really keen. If you have a moment perhaps you could check for any errors in my work.

(Finnish Gas 21:19, 16 November 2011 (UTC)).


 * Great work! I think we should dicuss if we should convert the tables into the format used today, (Fb cl), what do you think? It's a lot of work but it would look a lot better. --Reckless182 (talk) 00:10, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree that it would be much better to convert the tables into current format using (Fb cl) and colour coding the European Cup, UEFA cup entries etc. However it will take time and patience. The work that I have just undertaken was just a quick fix - inserting some code in the existing tables or copying over from another source. I would not personally have the patience and devotion to rebuild the tables. I agree that revamped tables along with a summary of the seasons's statistics would look a lot better - a task perhaps for a Swedish football statistician / enthusiast.

(Finnish Gas 10:38, 17 November 2011 (UTC)).


 * I'm currently working on improving the season articles for Malmö FF, that is my priority when I have time off for Wikipedia, but a little variety is always good so maybe I'll upgrade some of the more recent ones when I feel like it! --Reckless182 (talk) 20:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Standard link names for Swedish Fb team templates
I would like to change the convention for the link names of the team templates to a standard where the full name (with abbreviations for IF, FF and so on) of the club always is linked. I don't like the current situation where some teams are pipe linked to remove the abbreviation, such as Hammarby or Helsingborg, while others have the full names, such as IFK Göteborg and Malmö FF. I understand that this is probably something copied from the English football teams where the "F.C." is always removed as it is redundant (as something like 95% of the English teams have that appended and that there are no two English teams where the only difference in naming is the abbreviation), and that a few teams then have the abbreviation added as a disambiguation. But for Swedish football I believe that the abbreviation is more closely tied to the name and that it would be better to always have it included (in tables and other listings). I cringe everytime I see a table like this. (As a sidenote, IFK Halmstad, IFK Örebro, IFK Helsingborg and Djurgårdens SK have all played football, or still do, so the disambiguation seems random at best.)

Comments on this? – Elisson • T • C • 17:12, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I disagree, I think the club names should be abbreviated as much as possible but also in an appropriate manner and according to some principles. I think we should strive to abbreviate according to the following principles: 1. Try to avoid all confusion with other football clubs, therefore all clubs that have a city name in common in their club name (such as IFK Malmö and Malmö FF) should have their full club name written out or . 2. Clubs that feature an additional feature to their name that is very closely associated to the club and how the club is refereed to in daily speech should be written out, the most evident example is the IFK clubs. Simply: the clubs should be abbreviated as much as possible and close to how the club is referred to in daily speech. Also, the clubs you name are mostly non notable, there shouldn't be much confusion in these cases? --Reckless182 (talk) 19:53, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I would agree with you, If we had been discussing prose. However we are not and in fact all official or authorative sources I've checked (the SvFF homepage, the Allsvenskan homepage, SFS-Bolletinen magazines and homepage, Årets fotboll volumes, SvFF volumes) are using the full names in the league tables, match records and other forms of purely statistical records (unless there is a lack of space, an argument that we don't need to consider on Wikipedia), while they regularly shorten the club names in prose, as I agree should be done.
 * As for the sidenote, IFK Halmstad has played at the second highest level once upon a time, IFK Örebro has played in the same league as Örebro SK at least three times (one of them along with Örebro IK), IFK Helsingborg has played in the same league as Helsingborgs IF at least twice and Djurgårdens SK was a regular top-10 among the Stockholm clubs in the early 20th century. However this is not part of my argument, it is just a positive side-effect that those problems will disappear when using the full names. – Elisson • T • C • 21:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I think we need to research this issue some more. I believe that we should do whatever is the norm on WP, naming and abbreviations should be consistent all over WP in my opinion. All I could find on the subject is this, as I see it this is guidelines for prose and as you mention we're dealing with the problem of naming and abbreviations in statistics and tables. When looking at other Scandianavian leagues with similar club names on WP, it seems like that the full name is used for the majority of teams in the Danish Superliga tables but not in the Norwegian Tippeliga. Looking elsewhere abbreviations like FC and SC are generally never featured in league tables, I don't see anything that makes Sweden unique so as to include the abbreviations in the template. We can't be sure if official statistics sources for other league differs from Sweden, but for an example: La Ligas official website uses abbreviations in the leage table, however the abbrevations are not included in the team template on WP. However, we obviously need to fix the templates for the teams you mention, if they were once in the same league the templates has to reflect on the different club names. --Reckless182 (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * As a matter of fact, a lot of the other leagues has official website with league tables that uses the full names of the teams, see bundesliga and ligue 1 for examples. Therefore I think we can establish that Sweden is not unique in the sense of the using the full club names in the official statistics. Both Bundesliga and Ligue one tables on WP has team templates with shortened names, names that the teams are most commonly refereed to as. I strongly believe that this should apply to Sweden in statistics as It does already in prose. --Reckless182 (talk) 22:57, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * That's a backwards kind of logic to me. It could equally well be that the Wikipedia templates that should be changed? Either way, the 2011–12 Fußball-Bundesliga article uses mostly full names, only 4 of 18 teams do not; Bayern Munich (instead of FC Bayern München, special case where not even the actual club name is used), Schalke 04 (FC Schalke 04), Werder Bremen (SV Werder Bremen) and Bayer Leverkusen (Bayer 04 Leverkusen). Plus two cases where the names do not match but where Wikipedia still uses an abbreviation, FSV Mainz 05 (1. FSV Mainz 05) and SC Freiburg (Sport-Club Freiburg).
 * I don't agree that this has to be standardised across leagues of different nations either. As mentioned, there is absolutely no need fo append F.C. or A.F.C. in English football as the short names themselves are always unique anyway (the same applies for e.g. most East European leagues). But there is a need to append various abbreviations in Swedish football, so why not make it consistent within the Swedish league system, at least? The solution you propose is neither consistent within the Swedish leagues (abbreviations for some but not all) or consistent with other leagues (that use no abbreviations at all). – Elisson • T • C • 23:21, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * What you're proposing is a major change, as I see it, not only the templates of Swedish teams would need to be changed, but at least Spanish, German and French team templates as well to be consistent, that's over a a thousand templates. As I said, we need to go by WP norm and be consistent. I don't think we can or should settle this issue in this forum, I believe that you need to take the issue to higher ground within WP:Football. --Reckless182 (talk) 23:36, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I raised the issue over at WP:Football. Hopefully someone over there has some deeper knowledge of what to do. --Reckless182 (talk) 10:59, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Addition: I forgot to mention that SvFF uses Hammarby, Djurgården and Örebro in their tables. The same is also true for a few other lower league teams such as Sirius. This seems to be related to the organisational form of these clubs, being operated as aktiebolag and thus "officially" the name of the aktiebolag rather than the club name itself is used (for some reason). I don't want to follow SvFF that closely (the Allsvenskan homepage and the other named sources do not follow this naming convention). :) I don't want to include additional abbreviations such as FF and FK either, in those cases where this is sometimes added to multi-section clubs to name the specific section. I don't want, for example Djurgårdens IF FF or Djurgårdens IF Fotboll. – Elisson • T • C • 22:54, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I do agree with Johan Elisson on this one that it would be better (as a foreign user) if the team templates are the full name (with abbreviations for IF, FF and so on) using the standard term used on the SvFF website. However I greatly appreciate the hard work that Reckless182 has undertaken in taking the Allsvenskan tables to another level - it is tremendous work. (Finnish Gas) (Finnish Gas 22:36, 8 December 2011 (UTC)).


 * With regard to the last point made by Johan, I have run into a few problems when an editor has deleted my page (eg Alstermo IF) and replaced it with the FF, FK or Fotboll equivalent (eg Alstermo IF Fotboll). I can understand the desire why this should be undertaken in multi-section clubs but it creates a real nuisance with back links.  The point that I am making is that with multi-section clubs we may be forced to use additional abbreviations such as FF and FK.  However I think the point that Johan is making is that Alstermo IF Fotboll should be shown as Alstermo IF. (Finnish Gas) (Finnish Gas 09:13, 9 December 2011 (UTC)).

Club seasons
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone is interesting in contributing to season articles for the Allsvenskan teams in particular? At the moment, I am regularly updating the season article for Malmö FF, User:Halmstad is updating Halmstads BK and User:Dif joel is updating Djurgårdens IF, no other Allsvenskan teams have season articles updated on a fairly regular basis. Anyone with a deeper interest in specific Allsvenskan club could write a simple season article for the team. The article doesn't have to be updated on a daily basis but only fairly regularly after match days. See 2011 Malmö FF season to get a fairly good idea of how the format of an article could look. I'm suggesting this since I think this will attract more editors to contribute to Swedish football on Wikipedia as interest will hopefully increase with more material on each team. Updating Malmö FF's season article was actually on of the first things I started to contribute to on WP. I hope that someone is interested in doing this, specifically for the clubs that attracts more media attention and has a lot fans that would want to read this information. I would love to see season articles for IFK Göteborg, AIK, IF Elfsborg and Helsingborgs IF for example. --Reckless182 (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


 * As mentioned somewhere else, I usually keep away from articles that need to be regularly updated (see this recent discussion on WT:WPF for a few reasons why), so don't count on me, I'm afraid. – Elisson • T • C • 17:38, 18 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The 2011 Malmö FF season looks really good but I think that you will understand that this is not an initiative that I could make a worthwhile contribution when there are club supporters that could do a much better job. As a joint initiative it would be interesting if a few of us each prepared say 2 or 3 Superettan club articles to bring them up to an acceptable standard.  A model one (not too long or detailed) could be prepared by one of you to establish an acceptable format.  Just a suggestion! (Finnish Gas) (Finnish Gas 18:44, 18 December 2011 (UTC)).


 * I understand, I just put it out there to see if anyone was interested. Your suggestion is of a joint initiative on a club article is a great idea finnish gas! Before we look at Superettan clubs we should look at Allsvenskan. A Majority of all Allsvenskan club articles are long enough, some are even too long. A recurring issue in these article are either a non existing/too short history section (Only bringing up recent seasons, see Helsingborgs IF for example) or a way too long history section (Long paragraph on recent seasons, see AIK for example). Most article also feature a list of notable players, a majority of these lists are unsourced and does not include any criteria, this is a problem that needs fixing, see Helsingborg again for example. The majority of Allsvenskan clubs have a sufficiently long article so I think that maybe we should focus on the articles that are too short, these are: Gefle IF, Mjällby AIF, IFK Norrköping, GIF Sundsvall and Åtvidabergs FF. These are all Allsvenskan clubs with articles that are not sufficient enough, Norrköping and Åtvidaberg are even former Swedish champions. --Reckless182 (talk) 20:23, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikilinks
I just went through List of Swedish football transfers winter 2011–2012 to update player and club articles now that the transfer window has opened. I discovered that a lot of red links that are not supposed to be linked. According to NFOOTBALL, a player is notable only if he has made an apperance in a professional football league, in Sweden's case, this is Allsvenskan only. Therefore, any player on this list that has never played an Allsvenskan match is not notable and should therefore not be linked. This is a big problem since other editors might mistakenly create articles for the player even though he is not notable, today I had to nominate Martin Broberg for PROD since the article didn't meet WP:NFOOTBALL. I have written on the talk page of the list above as well. --Reckless182 (talk) 20:38, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Swedish editor
Tjäna söta bror!

It has come to my attention, an editor named Heffaklumpen which I believe is the same as 62.20.202.237, that has been creating and expanding articles about Elfsborg-players (which is great), but with the style and lack of references it's not what a wikipedia-article should look like. (Check out Viktor Claesson, Stefan Larsson (footballer) and Joackim Jørgensen) I've tried to "wikify" Jørgensen, but what do you think should be done with the editor? He or she could also need a course of "wikifying". Mentoz86 (talk) 19:30, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * He also vandalized Daniel Nordmark more than once. Good job wikifying the articles! --Reckless182 (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Issues for consideration on the Project page
In preparing the Project Page for the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Finland task force there are three elements that I feel could benefit the Swedish task force. They are:


 * 1. Expansion of the To do list:

Basic tasks


 * Review importance and quality of existing articles.
 * Identify articles for creation.
 * Identify articles for improvement.
 * Recruit interested Wikipedians.
 * Determine way forward for the task force.

More specific tasks


 * Establish unified titles for league and cup articles.
 * Find non-copyrighted pictures for articles covered by the task force.
 * Include appropriate categories and a suitable infobox in new articles.
 * Include a suitable navbox in league and cup articles.
 * Expand the lower divisions articles.
 * Provide comprehensive league tables back to 1924.
 * Keep current squads up to date.
 * Keep club managers and chairmen details up to date.
 * Ensure that the correct teams are included in the league articles, templates and list of football clubs for the start of each season.
 * Add references to unreferenced articles as appropriate.

Swedish sources


 * Add some dimension to the English language articles by visiting corresponding Swedish language articles and using the best material from them.


 * 2. Provide an Information Resources Library

This would cover the best links etc. and the Bibliography above.

Promote the Library to Editors as a means to increase membership and improve the quality of articles. SFS is an example - a wonderful resource but I only discovered it a few months ago!


 * 3. Establish a proper Naming Convention for League and Cup articles

With reference to Naming conventions (use English) and Article titles there are some problems at the moment e.g. Division 2 1952–53 - year should be first and consideration might be given to including Sweden/Swedish in the title.

I am trying to tackle this same issue in Finland at Talk Page.

Just a few ideas!

Kind regards - (Finnish Gas (Finnish Gas 14:57, 24 February 2012 (UTC)).

NB: I have not tried to re-invent the wheel! Many of the above I have picked up visiting other Task force articles.

League Performance Charts
Hello everyone! I've been creating and adding some charts recently for swedish teams showing their progress through the swedish league system over the years. So far I've done Djurgårdens IF, Kalmar FF, GAIS, IFK Norrköping, Örebro SK, Gefle IF, GIF Sundsvall, IF Elfsborg, Helsingborgs IF, Åtvidabergs FF, BK Häcken, Syrianska FC, Assyriska, Hammarby IF, Landskrona BoIS, Östers IF, Degerfors IF, IK Brage, Jönköpings Södra IF, IK Oddevold, Sandvikens IF, Västerås SK, Örgryte IS, IK Sirius, Karlstad BK, IFK Eskilstuna and BK Derby.

I just wanted to hear what people think? Good or bad to have on team pages? I have avoided doing them for the teams who have the nicest layouts on their wikipedia pages since I don't want to mess around too much with those! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vadjag (talk • contribs) 01:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I've noticed your work. Great job man! Would you care to create on for Malmö FF and replace the existing one at List of Malmö FF records and statistics? I made that one but I like your design even more. I'll provide you the positions for pre 1925 if you don't have the information. --Reckless182 (talk) 23:23, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Would love it even more if you could make the line in the Malmö FF colours? (The same colour code as my signature. --Reckless182 (talk)</b></b> 23:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, I will create one for Malmö when I have time this week. I've avoided including seasons before the start of Allsvenskan in the others I've made since I thought the league system looked a bit chaotic before that :). But if you give me the positions and number of teams in each level etc. then I can probably make it work. Using the Malmö colours should be no problem. Oh and I can't take too much credit for the design, I mostly tried to recreate the look used on the Manchester United page.Vadjag (talk) 09:14, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Malmö FF League Performance.png. The different shades of gray represent league divisions.]]


 * Sorry for the delay! I made some new charts today, including one for Malmö FF using the blue color in your signature. Unfortunaly the program is giving me some headache right now when it comes to adding the years before the start of Allsvenskan but I will try to update the graph with those at a later date.
 * I also added new charts for AIK, IFK Göteborg, Mjällby AIF, Halmstads BK, IFK Luleå, Skövde AIK and FC Gute today. Hopefully in the future I will get around to doing them for all the teams in Allsvenskan and Superettan and a bunch in Division 1 and some in the lower leagues whose trajectory I find interesting! Vadjag (talk) 22:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Great work man! I'll add your chart to List of Malmö FF records and statistics, keep up the good work! --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 17:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Well done on these presentations. Can you tell what programme you used for these? I have done some others in the past using spreadsheets and editing via gimp but each season needs to be completely redone which is quite annoying (Second City derby for example is now out of date). The main problem is with the background divisional lines which I've been doing manually. I'd like to know how you done them and what programmes you use. Thanks Xenomorph1984 (talk) 17:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry about the very long time it took me to answer! :D I do them 100% in Excel. The background divisional lines are basically 2d-staple graphs on top of each other. So if you have two divisions with 20 teams each you make one staple with a value of 20 and one with 40 and have them on top of each other. Hopefully that explains things clear enough :) Vadjag (talk) 02:03, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh and I also want to add the general news on this subject that I have updated all of these now to include the 2012 season. If I get the time in the near future I might also redo them to include the pre-Allsvenskan seasons with Svenska Serien, but it's kind of a headache with the gaps between playing years so I also very well might end up not doing it! :) Vadjag (talk) 02:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Gamla Ullevi
I'm proposing that Gamla Ullevi (2008) should be moved to Gamla Ullevi (which is currently a disambiguation page), the disambiguation page should be moved to Gamla Ullevi (disambiguation). I believe this is a better solution than the current since the old stadium is demolished and titled Gamla Ullevi (1916). When people search for Gamla Ullevi they are more likely to be looking for the new stadium, this is supported by the article traffic statistics, the old stadium gets approximately 12 views per day while the new stadium gets around 60 views per day. I looked at other similar situations and found that for example Wembley Stadium and Wembley Stadium (1923) are titled in the manner that I am suggesting for Gamla Ullevi, the same applies to Yankee Stadium and Yankee Stadium (1923). What is peoples opinion on this? --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 17:20, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I took the liberty to go ahead with the move since I didn't get a reply for more than 24 hours. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 21:02, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Anel Raskaj's nationality
I recently changed Anel Raskaj's nationality in Sandnes Ulf article from Kosovo to Sweden, because Kosovo is not a "FIFA nationality" (but rather a non-official national team like the Sápmi) and I had the impression that he was swedish. Yesterday it was changed back, with the edit summary "Raskaj do not hold Swedish citizenship". If it is correct that he is not a swede, what FIFA-nationality should he be listed with? Mentoz86 (talk) 02:18, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * In his article, he should be considered Kosovar, as that is clearly what he considers his nationality to be. In a team's squad list – which is where we only allow "FIFA nationality" – he shouldn't have a flag at all. —WFC— 02:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I did the change from Sweden to Kosovo based upon that i read that he was suppost to apply for a swedish citizenship 2011 or 2012, i however have not read anything since that he have gain any or even applied for one, furthermore he have represented Kosovo national football team and stated that it is his wish to play for Kosovo, i therefore consider him to be Kosovar not Swedish. --> Halmstad,  Charla to moi  18:55, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, he is Kosovar - no doubt about that. However, squad lists specifically mentions that "Flags indicate players FIFA-nationality", and since Kosovo is not an official FIFA-nation the Kosovo-flags should not be used. Most Kosovar-players have dual nationality and should have the "other" flag, but since Raskaj is not a Swede, the best thing would be, as WFC states, leave him without a flag. Mentoz86 (talk) 19:07, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with WFC, yet i find it wrong that he would be left without a flag in the squadlist. --> Halmstad,  Charla to moi  19:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

UEFA Euro 2012 squad
In less then an hour, Hamren will announce his 23-man squad for UEFA Euro 2012, and in a month half the football-world will focus on this championship, and these 23 players will get a lot of page-view on Wikipedia from interested readers around the world. Should we as a task-force use the next months to improve these 23 players' articles (and other articles related to the national team)? I know that most of these articles have a decent standard, but I guess there is always something to add, aswell as a few article that needs more attention. Maybe we also could try to do the same thing about our neighbors, Denmark, since we understand the language? Mentoz86 (talk) 13:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Kalle Björklund
Yesterday I created the article about Kalle Björklund (or Karl-Gunnar Björklund), but I couldn't find any sources for what he might be most noted for - his time as a player in Östers IF, and his time as head coach of four different Allsvenskan-clubs 93 to 99. I am going to nominate this for DYK, but it would be appreciated if someone could add some sourced info about these two periods. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 08:36, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Summer transfer window
In Norway, (I believe it's the same in Sweden) the transfer window opens at 1 August, which means that players that the clubs sign now won't be eligible for the club until that date. My question is what should be done to the "Current squad" sections at the different clubs - should I remove the players and add them back 1 August, or should I just leave them there when someone else adds them? What is your experience with this in Swedish football ? Mentoz86 (talk) 21:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * My advice would be to leave them the way they are until 1 August. The transfers does not take place until that date and are thus officially still players of their old clubs. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 16:33, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Mikael Lustig
Hi, would anyone be able to give me a bit of a hand with this player. I translated a bit from the Swedish article to the GIF Sundsvall section but there are no refs, also the Rosenborg section could do with a bit of clarification. I know he won the two league titles but I think he may have won some cup in 2009. I'm not really sure though. If anyone knows of any Norwegian editors who would be able to help with the Rosenborg section that would be a great help as well. Thanks Adam4267 (talk) 14:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * 2010 Superfinalen? I'll have a look at the Rosenborg-section when I have time :) Mentoz86 (talk) 16:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That's it thanks. I'm not looking for a huge improvement, but he is the only current Celtic first-team player whose article is below C-class. I'd like to at get it up to there if possible. Thank you Mentoz Adam4267 (talk) 19:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Needs some review
I just created my first template. Its a template for Hammarby IF. Please take a look at it and tell me if i made any errors. The big plan is to lift all the Hammarby-related articles.

Here is the link: Template:Hammarby_IF

--Divine time (talk) 21:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I like the initiative. Have a look at Template:Malmö FF if you want some guidance or just ask me.--<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 22:06, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! You got a good layout there. The thing is that your layout fits Malmö FF - witch is a football club, but Hammarby IF is sportsclub and i dont really think that the layout you have used there would fit Hammarby. Divine time (talk) 22:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Damallsvenskan manager notable?
Hello, are Damallsvenskan managers considered notable enough to have articles created about them? Vadjag (talk) 02:09, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Not per WP:NFOOTBALL (as Damallsvenskan is not a fully pro league), but an article could be created if the subject passes WP:GNG. That means that you'll need a lot of coverage in independent sources to write start the article. Mentoz86 (talk) 02:40, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Since you posted this question here, Damallsvenskan has been added to the fully pro league list, so it is notable enough now. -- Lejman (talk) 01:04, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

The Augustsson family
I recently expanded Andreas Augustsson's article, and I know for a fact that he is the brother of Jakob Augustsson, (they both played for my local team in 2005) but I find it hard to verify it. I found some sources about Bo Augustsson and his family, ( and ) but I could need some help to verify that my translation of Swedish is correct. Bo Augustsson got the two brothers Jörgen and Leif (don't know if he is notable). Bosse got three sons, Andreas, Jakob and Johan (HD says he has played "Allsvenskt", does that mean he is notable?) while Jörgens sons plays hockey, Christian and Jimmie are sons of the non-notable Leif. Did I got it right, and which of the red-links are notable? I know Bo is notable, and I am going to write an article about him in the near future:) Mentoz86 (talk) 08:20, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You're right in your interpretation of the Swedish sources, they confirm the fact that Andreas and Jakob are brothers. "Allsvenskt" does indeed mean that he is notable, it means that he has appeared in Allsvenskan. The HD article indicates that Leif Augustsson played his full career at Hässleholm which means that he is not notable. I did some searching for Christian Augustsson, this article lists a number of the clubs he played for, but the article is fairly old. Judging from the list I'm quite certain that he is not notable. Bo and Johan are definitely notable though.--<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 10:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reply. Will put the redlinks on my to-do list :D Mentoz86 (talk) 19:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Article that needs to be deleted
So... I want to bring up a topic I have wanted to do for a long time but never had the energy to do so. Anyways, directly to the point.. The | club notability criteria or WP:GNG is almost never achieved by the articles of clubs that play in lower divisions. Im not the one who thinks deleting is an good option, but in this case I can't see why you should keep them.

Here are some examples:

BK Saturnus Blue Hill KF Mariebergs SK Näsvikens IK Stocksunds IF Turkiska SK Kristbergs IF BK Zeros Valdemarsviks IF


 * Make sure you check to see if any of them have participated in Svenska Cupen since that would make them notable according to the club criteria.--<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 13:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

IK Sirius
Should the current IK Sirius page be IK Sirius Bandy and List of IK Sirius sections be the main IK Sirius page? I don't know the criteria here or really how to make it happen if it should. 90.130.246.245 (talk) 02:22, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Since the bandy section of IK Sirius is the best known, the current structure works just fine. – Elisson • T • C • 14:32, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

The issue with autumn-spring competitions in spring-autumn season articles and the fact that we mix formats – Need peoples opinions!
For the current season format

For the old season format

Hi all. Me and Mattias321 recently had a discussion regarding the issue about autumn-spring competitions in spring-autumn season articles. To illustrate the problem since it's fairly complicated to explain in the first place: 2014 Malmö FF season has an infobox in the upper right corner where results from the competitions in which the club participated during the season are displayed, we see results from two competitions that spans over two calender years: 2013–14 Svenska Cupen and 2014–15 UEFA Champions League. In the article we then display only the matches played during the 2014 season, I see no problems with the format that we use when we display "The tournament continues into the 2015 season.".

The problem however I believe is the confusion that arises for the reader when we display results in the infobox from 2013–14 and 2014–15. I believe that we need consistency here and display the results for the 2014–15 Svenska Cupen and 2014–15 UEFA Champions League. There are both positive aspects and negative aspects about this: the positive about using this format is that we avoid confusion and also use the years for in which the competitions start, the negative is that an Allsvenskan club almost always proceed to play the majority of the Svenska Cupen matches during the following season while they in most cases never play in European competition after the winter. However I believe that the results of these competitions should "fall under the jurisdiction" of the season in which they started (in this case the 2014 season article) since the majority of the matches overall (Svenska Cupen + European matches) will be played during the autumn. Also the European competitions have been played during autumn-spring since 1955 while Svenska Cupen has been played during autumn-spring between 1968–1991 and from 2012 until now.

In conclusion I would like to change the infoboxes of Swedish club season articles such as 2014 Malmö FF season so that it displays the results of 2014–15 competitions. I would also like to change List of Malmö FF seasons, List of Djurgårdens IF Fotboll seasons and List of IFK Göteborg seasons to use the same format. Currently they all display different formats for Svenska Cupen and European competitions. Mattias321 and I also talked about how we should consider the articles such as 2014 in Swedish football, perhaps we can keep the current format here? It would be very problematic to change the results displayed for Svenska Cupen here since the 2013–14 Svenska Cupen title actually belongs to the 2014 season (not in the 2013 in Swedish Football article) and therefore should be displayed in that article.

This is a fairly complex issue that needs more debate, opinions and solutions. I think it's hard to find a solution that is perfect but I believe we need to change the current format as it's very confusing for the readers as it is now. If you want to read the discussion between me and Mattias321, see here. Thanks! --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 22:50, 12 October 2014 (UTC)


 * As I said before, Reckless182, I agree with you, but the format of Svenska Cupen was autumn-spring also between 1992 and 2001. This means that 35 of the 59 Svenska Cupen seasons have been played with the autumn-spring format. And I really not see why it matters that UEFA have had autumn-spring since 1995? And I also found that the Soviet Union/Russia had the same problem between between 1963 and 2010 when the league was played with spring-autumn and the cup with autumn-spring. Unfortunately, they have been very inconsistent with the infoboxes in season articles from that time. Sometimes it's the same format as in 2014 Malmö FF season and sometimes it's what you're suggesting.


 * Another thing why forgot to discuss was how we should do when it's the opposite. Between 1941 and 1953, Svenska Cupen was played with spring-autumn and Allsvenskan was played with autumn-spring. For example, should 1947 Svenska Cupen or 1948 Svenska Cupen be included in 1947–48 IFK Göteborg season? // <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF"><b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">Mattias321</b> <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">(talk)</b></b> 14:25, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for correcting me regarding the years between 1992 and 2001! The reason I brought that up was only to illustrate that the European competition format has been the same since 1955 while the format of the cup has changed (one a side-track, just imagine what the status of the cup could have been if SvFF hadn't treated it like an experimental lab rat through the years). The fact that the format has changed a lot is very problematic and adds another dimension to the problem, as you just highlighted, we have the same problem but in opposite terms when it comes to the 1940's.


 * I took a look at some season articles from 2014 of club that play spring-autumn just like Sweden, Rosenborg, HJK and FC Astana all display the 2014–15 European season in their infoboxes. If you take a look at List of Rosenborg BK seasons as well as an example they use the same format there. Now unfortunately none of these countries have shifted the format of their domestic up season. Therefore we have no real reference point to refer to, only the fact that there seem to be a somewhat accepted praxis of displaying the European results in the season in which the competition began. So I think we'll come to the same conclusion as we did before, moving the European season result wouldn't do much good. So the core of the problem seem to come down to Svenska Cupen. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 14:48, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually it looks like Belarus, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania share the system of a 2014 league system and a 2014–15 cup system. However there seems to be an absence of season articles for both clubs and the nations competitive season in general, unfortunately. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 15:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * If you take a look at List of IFK Göteborg seasons, there is a interesting format for the "List of X seasons"-articles were the half of the 2012–13 Svenska Cupen covers the 2012 season and the other half covers the 2013 season. Thoughts about that? It seems like it is Johan Elisson who "created" the format. If you also take a look at 2010 FC Zenit Saint Petersburg season and 2012 AIK Fotboll season, they actually uses the format you're suggesting. (And, I agree. It's not like the status of Svenska Cupen increases by changing the format every 10 years...) // <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF"><b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">Mattias321</b> <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">(talk)</b></b> 15:35, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes I've seen that. Although it is an interesting solution it's still fairly confusing in my opinion (my personal opinion). Also I'm not sure such a format passes the FLCR, that's a secondary problem though. I went through that process with List of Malmö FF seasons, it was a very long process with lots of criteria regarding the readability of the list, I can't believe this problem didn't arise back then. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 15:42, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, perhaps you're right, it might be a little confusing. But we (and hopefully the others you invited) must still make a decision how to do with the seasons between 1940–41 and 1953–54 when it was the opposite problem. // <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF"><b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">Mattias321</b> <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">(talk)</b></b> 18:00, 13 October 2014 (UTC)


 * When it comes to the 1940's I believe the 1947 Svenska Cupen should be included in the 1947–48 IFK Göteborg season and the 1948 Svenska Cupen in the 1948–49 IFK Göteborg season with the same logic as used above, 1947 cup season starts in 1947 and should therefore be in the article that starts with 1947, the competition also ends in the autumn of 1947, and the autumn of 1947 is descried in the 1947–48 season article. Does that make any sense or am I rambling here? --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 20:09, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a strong opinion of this, but in general I believe that the end of a tournament should be the deciding factor for which season the tournament should belong to in simple lists. So a list for 1982 in Swedish football would include 1982 Allsvenskan, 1981–82 Svenska Cupen and the 1981–82 European tournaments, and similarly a list for 1950–51 in Swedish football would include 1950–51 Allsvenskan and 1950 Svenska Cupen. This for at least two reasons: 1) A team winning several tournaments during the same season would have those titles listed together (such as IFK Göteborg's Allsvenskan, play-off, cup and UEFA Cup titles in 1982); 2) the main stage of all tournaments takes place during the listed season.

For actual article content, I like the idea of listing only matches and results that occur during the season. So for the 1982 IFK Göteborg season article, only the matches played in the UEFA Cup during the spring of 1982 would be listed, together with the Cup Winners' Cup matches from the same autumn. – Elisson • T • C • 21:05, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I do believe that is best for "2014 in Swedish football articles" but not for the infoboxes in "2014 Malmö FF season" articles, as I explained earlier the fact that Swedish teams almost never progress to play European football in the spring would make it very odd looking to have the results from 2014-15 in a 2015 season article. But perhaps we can have that you suggest for "2014 in Swedish football" articles and another format for club season articles and club season lists? --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 21:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The risk of confusion would decrease if infobox cup entries were denoted by year, e.g. 2013–14 Svenska Cupen instead of Svenska Cupen when they are different time spans than the league seasons. For which tournaments to be listed where, the end of tournament is more reasonable than the start of it in my opinion as per Johan Elisson's argumentation. // Smartskaft (talk) 22:09, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 * In my opinion the solution for this problem is to denote by year wherever the span of the competition overlaps between Swedish league seasons, as Smartskaft says above. But this still leaves the issue of which tournaments should go on which season page. I agree with Elisson that the end of the tournament is more reasonable than the start. It would be strange to say a club won the 2014 Svenska Cupen on the page for the 2013 league season. Regarding European competitions, I would recommend placing the results based on where the team's participation ended—for example, if Alphabet FC got knocked out early in the 2014–15 Champions League, the results would go in the 2014 article, but if they reach the latter stages then they would go in the 2015 article. This would lead to a little inconsistency between articles but as Reckless points out Swedish teams don't usually get to the latter stages anymore. So long as entries are always denoted by year as Smartskaft says above I think would work. —  Cliftonian   (talk)  07:52, 14 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I think it's better to have a standard format which you can use for every season, rather than change depending on how far the club progresses in Europe or Svenska Cupen, like Cliftonian suggest. Then there are various advantages and disadvantages of "beginning" and "end" of the tournaments. Nowadays, it's like we said, very few Swedish clubs playing in Europe in the spring, but on the other hand, when the Swedish clubs do play in Europe in the spring, it gets a little strange to read in "1981 IFK Göteborg season" that IFK Göteborg won the UEFA Cup when they actually did it 1982. I am as you can see a little unsure what I stand on the issue, but I clearly think that 2013–14 Svenska Cupen should be included in 2014 in Swedish football. // <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF"><b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">Mattias321</b> <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">(talk)</b></b> 15:58, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

I have read the discussion but not answer until now because I tried to come up with a solution or idea for this. The result of my thinking is that I still dont know what is best. What I do know is that for the european competitions the main tournament (group stage) start in the fall and svenska cupen group stage is in the spring so in that case 2014-15 Champions League should belong to 2014 (main part of tournament) and 2014-15 Svenska cupen is in 2015 (main part of tournament is there). But I can also see why they should belong on same article for consistency, just not sure which. That is fifty-fifty to me. <i style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 19:19, 14 October 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, so for an update of my standing on this. The fact that many of the opinions voiced here are for displaying results in the season article in which the competition ended has made me more unsure of where I stand on the issue. I do agree with Smartskaft's proposal to denote competitions by year, I think that should be done regardless of which way we decide to go. I agree with Mattias321 that displaying IFK Göteborgs UEFA Cup victory of 1982 in the "1981 IFK Göteborg season" might confuse some readers, so will displaying all the results of European competitions in the following year when the team was eliminated in the previous year. I find that it is really hard to argument for either side. I would say that both works, but that both may confuse a reader in one way or another.


 * At the same time as I'm saying all this, I'm having a hard time just ignoring the fact that there seems to be an existing accepted praxis of using the first alternative (displaying results in the season in which the season started). Now I'm not saying that common Wikipedia praxis is perfect and written in stone, it's not, praxis should always be discussed and improved. However it might lead to confusion to go against praxis. Maybe this is something we should bring up at Football to see if there are strong opinions regarding the current praxis? Perhaps I'm wrong about there being a current praxis, but I don't want to ignore it.


 * Cliftonian suggests an interesting compromise in displaying the results depending on how far the team in question progresses. This could be a solution if we are willing to sacrifice consistency. In either way, I believe it to be a better compromise than the one we have right now. It seems like we're going to have a tough time coming up with a crystal clear solution that everyone will support. Should we take the issue to WP:FOOTBALL, continue the discussion or conduct some sort of vote? I know that voting is probably not the way to do it, I just feel like we need to come to some sort of agreement since keeping the format as it is probably the worst solution. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 16:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Since this problem not only concerns us, I would bring it to WP:WPF. Personally I like consistency, so I do not like the compromise solution, which also can lead to very strange stuff. Imagine that IFK wins CL 2016–17, fails in the qualifiers to CL 2017–18, then wins CL 2018–19 and fails in the qualifiers to CL 2019–20. Then there would be no results in the 2016 season article, double results in the 2017 season article, no results in the 2018 season article and double results in the 2019 season article. That would look very strange considering IFK played four straight seasons in the tournament, but only two season articles would contain info about it. – Elisson • T • C • 08:38, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with Johan Elisson about that consistency is very important. But the most important thing is that we will come up with a solution soon, because keeping it as it is now is perhaps the worst. Have someone brought to WP:WPF yet? Perhaps it's best that Reckless182 is the one to bring it up, because it was he who started the discussion. // <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF"><b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">Mattias321</b> <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">(talk)</b></b> 13:31, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Yup, I have been meaning to do it, but I've been short of time. I'll do it later tonight if I find the time. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 16:14, 18 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Started a discussion here. --<b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC"><b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">Reckless182</b> <b style="color:white; background:#6A9AFC">(talk)</b></b> 16:37, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Tier colors
Hi,

I have opened discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football and I thought it would be of interest for this project. I have read many club articles that list team result for each season, but not any consensus on the colors have been found so I went to footy. Please take a look at discussion and join it. <i style="font-family:Verdana"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 19:23, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Now everyone can do charts!
Hello everyone! I'm the guy who does the charts displaying how the clubs move up and down through the swedish league system. I've updated them all with the data from the 2014 season today and while doing so I thought it would make sense for me to "release" the Excel file that I use to create these charts for anyone who wants it. To either be used to make more charts for teams that I haven't done already or if I ever stop updating mine someone else can take over. The link to download the Excel document is at filedropper.com/swefootballchart and hopefully it will be clear when modifying the file how the whole thing works in case anyone wants to try it. If there are any questions, just ask! Vadjag (talk) 01:28, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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In search of a tool
I am looking for a tool that can pull up all the recent changes to pages taged in the Swedish task force. I've asked around at the wikipedia channel on IRC but with no success. Well... maybe a little. I was recommended to take a look at Special:RecentChangesLinked. With that tool I can search through Swedish football related category's with these as a keyword:


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League table dispute
Hi everyone.

There is a league table dispute at Template:2015 Allsvenskan table making it full protected, which is not good with matches today and upcoming days, so please join discussion at Template talk:2015 Allsvenskan table. Thank you. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 09:50, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Updating & Adding content to Swedish footballers
Hello,

I've felt there's a lot that need to be added and updated to most Swedish footballer articles on Wikipedia. Updating infoboxes, adding Career Statistics, maybe write some about their careers and add longer lead sections than just a sentence (this is important since most mobile users only reads the leads). I don't know how much I will do and what players, but I'll have that as a goal to make an effort to do that to some. Since you guys are the only active users in this taskforce, I just wanted to ping you guys in case you also feel you want / can contribute. // Psemmler (talk) 01:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

National team project
Hej allihopa!

I assume that everyone here speaks Swedish, otherwise you'll have to ask for a translation. Jag ska nu på allvar börja med ett projekt om svenska landslagen som ni hittar här. Egentligen har jag väl indirekt arbetat med det ända sedan jag tog min första stapplande steg på Wikipedia, men nu känner jag att det är dags att lägga på ett kol! Jag hade tyckt det vore kul om alla här i task force kunde samarbeta! Jag håller även på med ett om IFK Göteborg, men detta berör ju inte alla på samma sätt som landslagen. (Det hade dock varit kul om Johan Elisson, Psemmler och andra Blåvita hjälpte till på den fronten...) Om inte alla har som vana att gå in här taggar jag er andra också:            // <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF"><b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">Mattias321</b> <b style="color:white; background:#0000FF">(talk)</b></b> 19:10, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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Nordic task force
There's a fresh discussion on the main talk page on a proposed Nordic task force. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football Join in! --Mango från yttre rymden (talk) 22:00, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Oji
Death recently announced. May he RIP.

What's the policy for dead wikipedians who are (were????) also sportspeople? Thanks! Bokoharamwatch (talk) 23:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)