Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Forestry/History of forestry

Article or Wikibook?
Already that looks like a lovely wikibook. Are we building an article or a wikibook? Duff (talk) 04:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * All Wikibooks have to start somewhere, I'd say lets build the article base and article and see where it takes us. :) Minnecologies (talk) 19:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Outline of forestry
See also: Outline of forestry. Complementary efforts? Overlap? DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Both, although I'd say a little more towards the complementary side. Seems like most good History of subject articles approach from either a chronological basis or "milestone" basis (see Biology and Chemistry respectively). The Outlines use a more categorical approach, with (seemingly) no respect to time. Of course there will be some overlap but that's to be expected. Minnecologies (talk) 19:11, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, here's another couple points of reference, just to make them reachable directly from here: Index of forestry articles & Forestry (section in main forestry article). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duff (talk • contribs) 21:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Ancient vs. not so much so?
Is there a generally accepted framework of when is ancient? I worked over the Chinese Dynasties, not all of which were particularly notable (or sufficiently lengthy) for forestry, I guess. I want to move the not-ancient out of there and into one of the other headings, but not sure what our periodic criteria will be. Thoughts on putting some date brackets on the major headings? Duff (talk) 03:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That's what I think is going to be one of the tricky parts of the article- setting definitive dates on historical periods. Especially considering the fact that the use of forests for a specific date could vary largely between continents and cultures, which would make one think of approaching it both chronologically and thematically. For a quick google example here's a brief overview of forestry in Massachusetts and the tremendous changes it's come under in ~400 years. Thoughts? Minnecologies (talk) 20:23, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
 * well, I like the idea of move of the one bio to under mechanized f., and I think I see what u mean about thematic vs chronological progression. Maybe the rest of the bios dovetail nicely with thematic sections too?  On the water & forests portion...does that fit better under contemporary/ecological forestry, or not? Duff (talk) 04:58, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, the rest of the bios would fit in nicely under different themes, I just didn't have the time to move the rest of them, and was a little confused about where a few would fit in best. Persons have been modifying forests for water use for centuries so it's not entirely a modern phenomenon (although the specific scientific study is)- I've been trying to look for a couple of good resources that could help lead structure to the project. Of course, modify as you see fit. Minnecologies (talk) 17:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles to get started on
Perhaps we'd like to choose a few articles in the mix to get started on collectively? Anyone have any input on which ones they'd like to see in the near future? Minnecologies (talk) 20:25, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Proposed article: Outline of forestry history
I would like to propose that this work page be developed into a new Outline of forestry history, conceptually a subpage under the Outline of forestry. Suggestions? Contributions most welcome... Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:44, 19 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Suggestion withdrawn, with encouragement from one of the editors at Outline of forestry. Instead, much of the material from this work page has now been integrated into that article, under History of forestry. Further enhancements, contributions welcome! Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 02:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)