Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One/Newsletter/Next NW

Monthly driver
I'm ok with this but I'm looking for veiws! Do we need a Driver of the Month area. I think it is great! ' Chubb ' enna  itor  19:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's OK with me, as long as it isn't restricted to 2008 drivers only.-- Diniz (talk) 19:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, no Sage said from any time when he asked me. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  19:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Any driver from any time period may be eligible. From Gilles Villeneuve to Lewis Hamilton, anyone can be nominated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sage Callahan (talk • contribs) 20:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Background colour
I'm afraid the bright yellow and green colours don't do anything for me, and I'd prefer it is they were changed back. One of the (informal) WP:F1 policies is to avoid big blocks of garish colour (see here and here for examples), so there are probably going to be some recipients who agree with me.-- Diniz (talk) 22:15, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I like the green for the F1DOM but I don't like what I did else where. Oh and the Improvement drive one came like that and is that colour. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  16:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose the green is OK, as it's one of the Brazilian national colours (for Senna). I would prefer it if the improvement drive and editors' comment boxes were the same shade of yellow as the boxes below them, however.--  Diniz  (talk)  17:01, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I did that because the improvement drive background didn't blend in nicely. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  20:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It does kinda work for DOM, but the pictures look a bit ugly having a white background on green. I can live with it, but its up to you. I really don't mind.  Sage J Callahan  01:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Teams and Drivers
I knpw that this may be late but are we able to put up the 'Grid' with statistics and pics? ' Chubb ' enna  itor  20:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We did that in the season preview issue, so I don't think it's especially important.-- Diniz  (talk)  10:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well now we have pictures. Ignore that know. After the Istanbul race we could do a look back at the season so far sort of thing? ' Chubb ' enna  itor  10:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see why not.-- Diniz  (talk)  20:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

DOM
I have finished DOM. If you see any mistakes or could expand, please do so.  Sage J Callahan  19:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice work! The only thing I would comment on is that almost every sentence reads "Senna is X", "Senna did Y" - could some pronouns be used in some cases?--  Diniz  (talk)  20:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be running a final run-through of it today. I'm probably going to end up rewording most sentences so it would read better.  Sage J Callahan  14:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The article shows the entire page, which displays previous editions as well. Anyway to make it so the current one only? If not, I cant get rid of showing previous editions.  Sage J Callahan  05:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Are we looking at the future of F1 cars design section
Can I add a section on the new designs on the Formula One cars. HondaF1 and BMW Sauber have the bull nose and (Toro Rosso,) Red Bull Racing and Renault F1 are using the shark fin! ' Chubb ' enna  itor  16:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, all of that is already mentioned in the introduction, so is it worth repeating?-- Diniz  (talk)  20:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

News limit
I think it's a bit excessive to have 35 (and growing!) news articles, the oldest of which are about three weeks old and out-of-date. It also makes the news box on the left very long, leaving a gap in the central box despite the expansion to two images. I propose a limit of news items somewhere in the 15-20 range.-- Diniz  (talk)  20:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Fine! ' Chubb ' enna  itor  07:42, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it looks better now.-- Diniz  (talk)  10:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Edit links
I was wondering whether there should be small edit icons on the edge of each section. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  19:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a good idea, if you know how to add them.-- Diniz  (talk)  18:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Sending out date
Does anyone object to the NW going out on June 10th? ' Chubb ' enna  itor  11:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine with me.  Sage J Callahan  06:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Same here!-- Diniz  (talk)  18:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Month look-over box
Can other people add to the month review box please because I'm going to need the help after the Canadian GP to complete it. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  11:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Section widths
Is it possible for the "News" and "Formula One News" boxes on the left to be widened slightly?-- Diniz  (talk)  18:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, but how? ' Chubb ' enna  itor  18:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I managed to work it out. ;)-- Diniz  (talk)  20:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I made it wider. It didn't look big enough. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  20:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone know any general news on the F1 side of WP. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  20:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ecclestone news
The latest peace of news you (Diniz) added I deided wasn't suitable. I would have added it ages ago. On my scan through for unimportant news that will be moved. (I do this to cut down on the amount of news.) ' Chubb ' enna  itor  15:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose that it will be irrelevant once the outcome of this week's vote is known.-- Diniz  (talk)  17:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Selected picture
Having a direct link to the image is better, as transcluding it for every newsletter means that it will change in all of them every month, and not just the latest issue.-- Diniz  (talk)  15:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I've thought around it by subst: it after the pic changes. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  19:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea!-- Diniz  (talk)  19:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

"Everybody..." Completing
I'm not editing on Mon-Tue and only sending out the NW on Wed. I need anyone who is free to edit- to complete the month box and anything else. Even the F1POM with Sage. I need everyone to edit and add and review because I'm not here. It will need to be done otherwise it isn't going out. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  20:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

send Out
If know one thinks it is ready for send out comment by 21:00 11/06/08. It is going out whether ready or not. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  17:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Problem
It has come to my attention that some people from the WP feel that we need more tings on the WPF1 than on F1 itself. Has anyone got answers. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  20:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Radical overhaul
To address AlexJ and 4u1e's concerns, I believe that the newsletter requires a radical overhaul to move its focus away from generic F1 information and towards the specifics of the WikiProject. I propose the following:
 * Remove:
 * The quote box - superfluous.
 * The summary box below the Improvement Drive box - this has been used entirely to summarise general events in F1, and is not specific to the Project.
 * The Drivers' and Constructors' Championship box, and the GP results sub-boxes - for the same reason.
 * Change:
 * The selected pictures - replace with all (or some) of the F1-related images that have been uploaded since the last newsletter was sent out using the format.  If a picture becomes featured, nominated for featured status or reviewed (all unusual events), then it can be displayed at a larger resolution.
 * Driver of the month - replace with summary of any F1 article that has been recently improved in some way, e.g. Featured Article, Featured Article Candidate, Good Article, Good Article Candidate, Peer Review or a noticeable improvement which does not involve any of these procedures.
 * Include/Add:
 * All FACs, GACs, PRs for articles, lists and pictures, and whether the result is success or failure.
 * A list of new F1 articles that have been created (difficult to keep track of but not impossible).
 * Summaries of recent important developments at WT:F1, with links to relevant sections.
 * This table, which shows WPF1 article assessment status (it should be subst'd before the newsletter is sent out, as the statistics change regularly).
 * Other recommendations:
 * Include a link to the newsletter-in-progress on the main newsletter page, allowing others to edit it easily and thus helping us to keep track of WPF1 developments which we don't know about. Vandalism, if it occurs, can be dealt with in no time at all.
 * If any subpages are still required (e.g. F1DOM and F1POM), they should be moved out of user page spage and into Wikipedia: space.

Just my two cents.-- Diniz  (talk)  13:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made a rough draft of this revised design in my sandbox.-- Diniz  (talk)  15:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I like it but I think the results should stay. It is what WPF1 does so I think that should be introduced. I like everything else that you've done. It's not going to be as fun to keep up-to-date but I like it. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  16:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the F1POM should stay as it's part of WPF1 but F1DOM should be removed. I don't like it anymore. The link to this page is annoying because then there's no point in having contributors. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  16:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! The main problem I have with the results is that they duplicate what any member of WPF1 should already know, or can easily find out in the relevant articles. I would prefer not to include them if possible. Concerning F1POM, I don't mind so much about that. In which section do you think it should go?-- Diniz  (talk)  17:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have asked for assistance at the Help Desk on a couple of technical things I would like to do with the format but don't know how. One of these would be to make the block gallery of new images collapsible within the newsletter. If this could happen, then it would be logical to put the F1POM immediately above it.--  Diniz  (talk)  17:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah but the NW is meant to tell people about what happened it doesn't matter f they already know. It's meant to be thee and know. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  17:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

How do we make the results collapsible. Look at my editing review. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  18:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've worked out how to adjust the gallery format, but not how to make the internal sections collapsible. I'll have to wait for a reply at the Help Desk.--  Diniz  (talk)  19:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The gallery of images has been collapsed and hidden using the template, but this doesn't work with tables due to the coding.  The  template might work, but the results tables would have to be converted to more basic wikitables and the notes underneath them removed.--  Diniz  (talk)  19:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I mean all the F1 result boxes within the NW collapsible. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  20:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand, but I'm not sure how to do it because neither the hidden nor collapse templates work with the current format.-- Diniz  (talk)  20:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Should I copy the newsletter in my sandbox to the next newsletter page?-- Diniz  (talk)  20:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. Let me look at it first. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  18:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Have you come to a decision yet?-- Diniz  (talk)  21:58, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes move the everything apart from the results and replace everything except the results. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  08:19, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

F1 POM
I think the F1 POM should not be hidden, as the current images section does not by default show any images, and only has three lines of text. The F1 POM is the month's "best" F1 image, and I think it would be better if it were on display. It would also draw people into looking at all of the other new images immediately below.-- Diniz  (talk)  00:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Great I was thining of that too. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  16:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Contributors
Does anyone now how to get the NW more wide-spread and get more contributors? ' Chubb ' enna  itor  16:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

News articles
Do you remember when I added the news article names, well I think t was useful because it provided preferences for anyone who could right down anything from them into the Wikipedia. Just a thought. Does anyone have any ideas for something new? Chubb enna  itor  19:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

September Article of the Month
Should this be the recently passed FA 1995 Pacific Grand Prix? Just a thought. Cadan  ap   Tomos  14:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know actually I'd say yes go for it but I left it to Diniz because I said oh he knows what he's doing so there we go. Chubb enna  itor  15:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, 1995 Pacific Grand Prix would be the best choice.-- Diniz  (talk)  16:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Widely
How do we make this more popular and more widely known? Chubb enna  itor  19:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Sending
Can it be sent out now with checks. Chubb enna  itor  20:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It all looks ready to me now.-- Diniz  (talk)  20:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I went out quite quickly after that post and couldn't help. Chubb  enna  itor  15:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Send Out
I'm not here for large enough amounts all week. Can this be sent out. Put in 200810 slot as normal. Chubb enna  itor  17:26, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * All done!-- Diniz  (talk)  16:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Again. I'll try tomorow. Chubb  enna  itor  20:44, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent! I'm afraid I won't be able to send it out this time, as I'me very busy this week with work and social events (it's the last week of full term for me! ;) )--  Diniz  (talk)  23:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I just sent it out I think. Had an early finish at uni, so had some time to burn. – Cs-wolves  (talk)  12:24, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I won a karting GP last night. Chubb  enna  itor  17:45, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

You're quick!
Wow, you guys are quick! I put 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix up for GA last night (my time) and it's already here! Thanks (and I think I'll subscribe if all the content is that good ;)). Apterygial talkstalkinsane idea 00:18, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks!-- Diniz  (talk)  11:39, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well done Diniz. God you're fast. Chubb  enna  itor  13:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

No recent images
AFAIK, no F1-related images have been uploaded since the last newsletter was sent out. Should we (a) go for an older image, or (b) comment out the section and restore it for the next issue? -- Diniz  (talk)  20:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Use the one from the portal. Chubb  enna  itor  21:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC)