Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Friesland/Archive 1

Rename
There is a suggestion by User:Baldrick90 to rename this to WikiProject Friesland. This sounds sensible to me, and I would have used this name, except for the proposals to call it Frisians. What do people think about renaming? Once the project has a few contributors, we can make a template for users, and one for articles. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 19:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Made the move. Baldrick90 (talk) 22:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I want the project to be renamed WikiProject Fryslan. For that is the traditional Frisian name and it looks way better. Besides: it should cover all Frisians (also East Frisians and not just inhabitants of West-Frisia and the Friesland province). -The Bold Guy- (talk) 14:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Made a Friesland template
Baldrick90 (talk) 22:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Move back
I don't see why it should be Friesland, which is generally associated with the Dutch province, which is by the way officially called Fryslân. The flag also suggests that it deals with this province. However, when I proposed this project, I had all the Frisians in mind, including the North and East Frisians. I truly believe "Frisians" would be a better name. It should cover the entire history of the Frisian people, their languages, literatures, lands, everything. At best, Wikiproject Fryslân could be a subproject of Frisians. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 21:42, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think we can have more than one project on the topic, there are not enough editors to go around. The Frisians project should be redirecting to the Friesland project.  The reason for Friesland is that is the name in English, and this is the English wikipedia.  Fryslân is not in English.
 * Are there any articles that would miss out because of the project being called Friesland? I cann't see that the scope has to be any different. Graeme Bartlett 20:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Friesland generally refers to Fryslân, whereas the scope of this project should in my opinion include East Frisia and the North Frisians as well. Therefore, I believe Frisian would be more appropriate. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 13:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to say it might be best to leave it the way it is. I'd like to place a few comments. Firstly it is true the province is officially called Fryslân, I believe since 1997. However you must admit that everyone in and outside the province still uses the name Friesland. The article on Friesland is also called Friesland and not Fryslân. Consistency on Wikipedia is very important. Therefore I believe we should not move the page, but instead broaden its reach. My proposal is to redirect searches such as "WikiProject Fryslân/Frisian/Frisians etc here. I also want to change the first line. "Welcome to the Frisian WikiProject. We are a group dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of Frisian people, the Frisian language, Friesland and any other place of Frisian settlement as well as Frisian history and culture." I reckon might do. Any comments? Baldrick90 20:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Your proposed opening paragraph sounds good, please put it in. Is there any better proposal for the pictorial symbol, apart from the waterlily flag? Graeme Bartlett 21:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Friesland should be Fryslan! It is our great province's only rightful name and will and shall officially be called that way. So I request a move-back right now! Thanks in advanche, the one and only: -The Bold Guy- (talk) 16:44, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

A new member (who planned setting this up for a long time)
I am a true Frisian, a proud inhabitant of Fryslan who could not be more proud with the blood flowing through his veins! I shall help this project for all eternity, whenever I have time, this I solenly swear! You have yourself a new member and this member shall try to do his best improving all articles concerning Frisia and Fryslans inhabitants the Frisians! I shall help you with history related articles! My interests goes mainly for Pier Gerlofs Donia and associated articles, for Pier Geerlofs Donia is my ancestor! I am most delighted to see you finally created the article and I will most certainly try to do my best in order to help improve all it's associated articles' quality! -The Bold Guy- (talk) 16:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Welcome! It's great you joined up. There are many ways of contributing: 1 The project definitely needs more support, if you could find more people it'd be great. 2 I have created the assessment table and rated almost 100 articles but there is still a lot of work to be done. 3 Categorisation of Friesland articles. 4 Creating lists of requested articles/open tasks 5 Creating and enhancing articles 6 create a list of literature on Friesland etc etc. It's also great you like Grutte Pier so much. It would be great if you could improve the article to a good quality standard. Baldrick90 (talk) 19:27, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Frisians discussion from WikiProject Council/Proposals

 * Description : Co-ordinated information about the Frisians, their historical lands, languages, etc.


 * Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
 * 1) Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 19:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) A Duck 19:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:29, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) -)-(-H- (&#124;-&#124;) -O-)-(- 08:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Murlock 18:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) icelandic hur ric ane #12(talk) 14:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Stallions2010 23:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) -The Bold Guy- (talk) 17:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Comments

Murlock 09:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It sounds like fun, this project. I'd love to be a participant all the way up from the beginning. I think Fryslan deserves to have its own project, and I think many people would like to share the same opinion with me! I should say; look at this, tell every Frisian wikipedian that you know, and give this proposal some notice on this great site! Many great Frisians throughout ancient history all the way up to modern times, need to have recognision on wikipedia. People such as Grutte Pier, Ygo Gales Galama, the Galama-family, the Schieringers and Vetkopers, Tierck Hiddes de Vries, and much, much more! Today is the day! Now is the time for us Frisians to combine and create our long-rewaited project! We are standing at the start of something new, something great; Fryslan boppe!


 * Perhaps there's enough information for Fryslân to deserve its own project, but I thought it would be nice to combine information about all the Frisians, also in Germany.


 * Any suggestions for a name? Frisians or Frisia? --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 23:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Frisians! Absolutely, now doubt about that! And I am very proud of being a member and starter al the way up from the beginning! Your idea is great, Benne, it sure is! Frisians! Our own project! A great thing. I'll be happy to help. Allways, -)-(-H- (&#124;-&#124;) -O-)-(- 13:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, a month has passed after your last comments; is there anything going to happen? Is anyone going to create this project? Frisians, when is your project gonna be started up! Or is this just empty talking and no acting? I'd like to see some action taken here, okay! Otherwise, I don't think there will be any project for Frisians. At all. And that would be a bloody shame, since the Frisians are a great people who deserve to have there own group of organised editors, taking care of there historical, culteral, and etnical-related articles. 84.87.138.105 08:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I would love to volunteer in a project like this. I am of Frisian ancestry myself, and the idea of such a project to be formed sounds really interesting to me! You guys really have my blessing for this; I would love to be a part of it and help you whenever help is requested! -The Bold Guy- (talk) 17:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I have created a project page WikiProject Frisians, so anyone is welcome to sign up. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for adding this. Can someone please ask the people who put their names here as "interetsed wikipedians" if they're willing to sign up as a member now the project has been created? That would be a fine way to get us some more members for Fryslan project. Thanks in advanche,

-The Bold Guy- (talk) 16:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)