Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gaelic games/Biographies

Article title conventions
Bearing in mind the following:
 * Naming conventions (sportspeople)
 * WikiProject Gaelic games/bio
 * Dual player
 * Talk:Brian Murphy (Gaelic games)
 * Talk:John Bunyan (sportsperson)
 * Talk:John Bunyan (sportsperson)

I propose the following naming conventions GAA player bio articles:
 * 1) Where not a dual player:
 * 2) Usual dab: John Foo (hurler) (or John Foo (footballer) or Joan Foo (camogie) as the case may be)
 * 3) John Foo (Gaelic footballer) if another John Foo plays soccer or Australian rules football (but not rugby or gridiron)
 * 4) *I think John Foo (Gaelic footballer) is preferable to John Foo (Irish footballer) even when both are unambiguous
 * 5) *I think Joan Foo (Gaelic footballer) is preferable to Joan Foo (ladies' Gaelic footballer) where relevant
 * 6) If still ambiguous, use the following formats (in descending order of preference)
 * 7) John Foo (Cork hurler)
 * 8) *John Foo (Cork and Dublin hurler) if represented both counties at senior level, and one does not predominate over the other in the popular consciousness)
 * 9) *If John Foo from Cork plays Gaelic football and John Foo from Dublin plays soccer, we could prefer either of
 * 10) *#John Foo (Gaelic footballer) and John Foo (association footballer) (or John Foo (Irish association footballer) if needed)
 * 11) *#John Foo (Cork footballer) and John Foo (Dublin footballer) or
 * 12) *My vote is for #1 as it is more likely to be obvious; fans of either code are less likely to know which county a player came from than to know that they play the correct sport in the first place.
 * 13) John Foo (Cork hurler, born 1977)
 * 14) John Foo (St. Finbarr's hurler, born 1977)
 * 15) Where is a dual player:
 * 16) If reasonably well-known in both:
 * 17) John Foo (sportsperson) if not ambiguous
 * 18) * redirect from John Foo (dual player) and John Foo (footballer) and John Foo (Gaelic footballer) and John Foo (hurler)
 * 19) If "sportsperson" is ambiguous (whether clashing with other GAA players or with players other sports), try (in descending order of preference)
 * 20) John Foo (Irish sportsperson)
 * 21) John Foo (Cork sportsperson)
 * 22) John Foo (Gaelic football and hurling) (or John Foo (hurling and Gaelic football) if better known in hurling)
 * 23) John Foo (Cork Gaelic football and hurling)
 * 24) John Foo (St. Finbarr's Gaelic football and hurling)
 * 25) *John Foo (Vins Gaelic football and Blackrock hurling)
 * 26) John Foo (Gaelic football and hurling, born 1977)
 * 27) John Foo (Cork Gaelic football and hurling, born 1977)
 * 28) John Foo (St. Finbarr's Gaelic football and hurling, born 1977)
 * 29) If significantly better known in one (say hurling) than the other:
 * 30) Use John Foo (hurler) if not ambiguous
 * 31) *If "hurler" is ambiguous same cases as listed above for non-dual player
 * 32) Redirect from John Foo (dual player)
 * 33) For each of John Foo (Gaelic footballer) and John Foo (footballer) and John Foo (sportsperson)
 * 34) *if not ambiguous redirect
 * 35) *otherwise add hatnote to existing article of that name and/or add line to DAB page

jnestorius(talk) 20:38, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Discussion
One issue is cases where we don't have the player's date of birth. Date of death would do but often won't apply. jnestorius(talk) 09:53, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

On reflection, I think we should prefer John Foo (footballer)  to John Foo (Gaelic footballer) This will require a change to Naming conventions (sportspeople) where onlky US, Canada, Australia are exceptions. I will revise the above proposal in light of this when I get the time. jnestorius(talk) 15:28, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Updated. jnestorius(talk) 20:38, 15 August 2017 (UTC)