Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany/Archive 19

Cornflower
"Cornflower" has been proposed to be renamed, see talk:Cornflower -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 23:44, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Dialects
The article German dialects has been tagged for lacking refs since last year. Seems a rather serious gap, unless it's better off merged into something else. — kwami (talk) 07:59, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Countries bordering the Baltic Sea
has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Help with an article?
Hey guys, I need some help with an article. The article in question is German Pellets, and as the name suggests it's a German company and most of the sources are in German. I can do a little with Google Translate, but the phrases are pretty advanced and come across a little jumbled with GT even more than usual. Can someone help look for sources and flesh out the article accordingly? I've found a few, one of which mentions a potential court case, but since I don't really understand the full extent of the article I'm hesitant to add any litigation, pending or otherwise. Thanks! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:50, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, there is a German language entry here to pull info from. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:52, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Free Imperial City of Cologne
What's this all about? We have an article on Cologne, this seems to be a fork from that article although Cologne has no links to it, nor is there a link to it in Cologne. History of Cologne has a link but doesn't really discuss it. Dougweller (talk) 16:14, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Concerning article on Baunach
The etymology of the name is slightly misleading: "The name Baunach comes from the Indo-Germanic word for river: bunahu". This suggests wrongly that the whole word "bunahu" means river. The following sentence tries to clarify that but sounds more like a contradiction, and it is not clear what the "This" refers to.

I would translate "bunahu" as "swelling river".

The section "Constituent communities" is even more confusing. It starts with the words "Baunach’s main town and namesake centre". However in the first line of the article Baunach is introduced as " a town". How can a town have a "main town"? This needs to be clarified.

Even more confusingly the name "Baunach" appears again among the "Gemarkungen" two paragraphs later. Is that the same Baunach as the town above?

It is important to differentiate between the administrative unit "Baunach", which consists of different districts, one of which has the character of a town, whereas others are just small villages, farms or even uninhabited.

80.226.24.8 (talk) 06:25, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Michael Mechthold-Jin
 * Just curious, is there an English expression for the German "Gemarkung"? For a relatively small unit of rural land, that is especially used in land registries ("Katasters") to document its usage (f.e. for taxation)? "District" seems to be used for larger areas - if "district" is OK, we could add a small description of the concept "Gemarkung" in the Germany section of the district-article. GermanJoe (talk) 07:26, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Romain (legal dictionary) has "local subdistrict", as does Hamblock/Wessels. --Boson (talk) 12:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Added a brief description to district. GermanJoe (talk) 12:25, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * "Gemarkung" and some guidance could be also added to WikiProject Germany/Conventions. GermanJoe (talk) 07:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * "Subdistrict" is not far off IMHO. One of the problems with translating German municipal areas is that there is little consistency and the word "district" tends to get used as the default for pretty much everything including Kreis, Distrikt, Quartier, Bezirk, Amt, Stadtteil and now potentially Gemarkung. It is not helped by the fact that the EU guidelines are far from complete and, in any case, refer to Wikipedia! This project has a guideline on the translation of administrative units here which I have tweaked, but it needs further work to cover all bases in a way that is as accurate and logical as possible. Not an easy task, but I plan to give it a go one day. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Merkel-Raute
As the topic has been picked up by non-German media, I thought it'd be a good idea to create that article. What's still missing is a photo of that giant billboard at Berlin Hauptbahnhof. As I won't be there during the next two weeks, I'm posting the matter here; maybe someone who reads this could take and upload one? What is more, I've suggested the article being featured as a DYK item on 22 September, the day of the federal election. The discussion can be found here. I'm aware that one might arrive at the conclusion that this is an attempt of campaigning, so your comments would be very much appreciated. Best regards.--FoxyOrange (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Ernst Litfaß - 32nd most popular article about Germany?
Any idea why? Seems like a very minor figure. Source: WikiProject Germany/Popular pages. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Very odd. Views on English Wikipedia went up about 100-fold (on certain days) since February, and have been high since then. The only thing I can think of is that February was the 197th anniversary of his birth; perhaps someone has started working on something for his bicentenary. On the other hand, there seems to have been no equivalent rise on German Wikipedia. Perhaps Google is soon going to come out with an electronic advertising column that reacts to who is looking at it, and hordes of involved Google employees are researching the Litfaßsäule. --Boson (talk) 17:15, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Category:Dames of the Order of Saint Elizabeth
Category:Dames of the Order of Saint Elizabeth has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 11:06, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Fauth.jpg
image:Fauth.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 11:22, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Fabian-gerb.gif
image:Fabian-gerb.gif has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 04:40, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Heinrich Vogeler 1872-1942-Mädchen mit Katze-1914-Haus im Schluh-Worpswede.jpg
image:Heinrich Vogeler 1872-1942-Mädchen mit Katze-1914-Haus im Schluh-Worpswede.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.181.39 (talk) 03:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Angela Merkel in popular culture
Hallo enWP, deWP has a now a large (but still contested) article about the topic, named de:Angela Merkel/Öffentliche Wahrnehmung und Inszenierung - ist about scientific background and examples of public insignia, from travelling pantsuit till Merkel-Raute. I assume it would be a nice endeavour to have it translated, but would prefer to have a feedback here. BR Serten (talk) 14:11, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles should follow WP:NOTNEWS, their topics should be of "enduring notability" with an encyclopedic, clearly defined scope. I doubt, that Merkel-Raute meets the requirements of this policy and agree with the arguments of the German deletion nomination. Also WP:RECENTISM is only an essay, but has some valuable guidance about such topics. We tend to take actual, current events far too important, instead of judging them in their historical context for an encyclopedic article. GermanJoe (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * GermanJoe, I agree completely with the deletion nominations for pressbased minor artikcles like Schlandkette, Merkelraute and the like.
 * Merkel in popular culture should however be based on the likes of

and so on. Thats not the same league. Serten (talk) 17:11, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Cracking the Highest Glass Ceiling: A Global Comparison of Women's Campaigns for Executive Office, von Rainbow Murray 2010
 * The CDU and the Politics of Gender in Germany: Bringing Women to the Party, Sarah Elise Wiliarty, Cambridge University Press, Politik auf dem Boulevard?, a.a.O. 2009, S.96 ff
 * Das Populäre Der Gesellschaft:Systemtheorie und Populärkultur Christian Huck, Carsten Zorn, Springer DE, 25.09.2007
 * Die Politik der Öffentlichkeit - die Öffentlichkeit der Politik: politische Medialisierung in der Geschichte der Bundesrepublik, Bernd Weisbrod, Thomas Mergel, Wallstein Verlag, 2003
 * A woman’s guide to celebrity politics, von Liesbet van Zoonen, University of Amsterdam, doi: 10.1177/1367549406066074 European Journal of Cultural Studies August 2006 vol. 9 no. 3 287-301 The personal, the political and the popular
 * ‘Celebrity chav’: Fame, femininity and social class, von ‘Celebrity chav’: Fame, femininity and social class, von Imogen Tyler, doi: 10.1177/1367549410363203 European Journal of Cultural Studies August 2010 vol. 13 no. 3 375-393
 * Merkel, Glawischnig und Marie Antoinette fashionable Queens"- Symposium der Unversität Wien 2009

Request for Comment regarding merger proposal
There is a request to merge East Germany jokes to German humour; with discussion taking place >>>here<<<. (Since September 2013.) Input welcome. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 20:32, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Featured Article Review for Sanssouci
I have nominated Sanssouci for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:15, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

B-class review request (Degenerate Art Exhibition)
Would anyone like to review this article and leave comments on its talk? I wonder how close it is to a GA. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:07, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Heinz Maria Lins
Dear Germany experts:

The above article will soon be deleted at Afc as a stale draft. It's a little short on references, and I guess only a German-speaking person could find them. Is this singer notable? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * A longer article appears at Heinz Maria Lins but  is also  devoid of substantial  sources. Google searches (all  languages, all countries) fails to  produce anything  significant. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll let it go then. Thanks. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 03:04, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Stub for German politican Lothar Späth linked on Main Page needs expansion
The stub for Lothar Späth is linked on the Main page right now with the Picture of the Day. It could be easily expanded from the German or French versions ... Djembayz (talk) 03:49, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Down with "Standard German"!
I have my reasons. See this move request. The Holy Four (talk) 11:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * See also: Talk:Low German. --Boson (talk) 13:14, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

English exonyms for place names
English_exonyms. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

2013 election results
The pages in Category:Federal electoral districts in Germany generally have election results only up to 2009, and haven't been updated for 2013. The 2013 data is available, but adding it to every page manually is a bit tedious. Does anyone have a bot or script that could do so? --Delirium (talk) 23:37, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Category:German people of Ossetian descent
This category has been proposed for deletion because it is empty. If there are any applicable articles that could be assigned to this category, please do so to prevent its deletion. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 16:39, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Misleading WP articles about living German "royalty"
I would appreciate some advice about articles on the English WP with what I believe are inaccurate and misleading titles and sections about living German "royalty". German royal and noble titles were all abolished nearly 100 years ago, but if you look at for instance the article Franz, Duke of Bavaria, I think it is very misleading, he is not a Duke, yes I know they are allowed to legally change their names to Joe Prince of Somewherethatdoesn'tevenexistanymore but not all readers are going to dig that deep. The German WP article just calls him Franz von Bayern, I think the English WP article should be moved to "Franz of Bavaria". Also the English WP article, unlike the German, has a section "Titles and styles" but he does not have any titles or styles, as the German article makes clear "Das dem Namen vorangestellte Prädikat „Königliche Hoheit (K.H.)“ bzw. „Seine Königliche Hoheit (S.K.H.)“ wird ebenfalls noch im gesellschaftlichen Umfeld verwendet, ist jedoch ebenso eine reine Höflichkeitsform ohne rechtliche Relevanz" but the English one does not and on the English WP page, again unlike the German one, there is a box with "Bavarian Royal Family" and a list of living German "Royal Highnesses" when there is no such thing. I think all of that should just be deleted and the English WP articles on such persons should follow the German ones, they know more about it presumably. There are similar issues with Prince Ernst August of Hanover (born 1954), he is not a Prince and the German WP calls him Ernst August von Hannover. Once again the English WP has a section "Titles and styles" for Ernst von Hanover while the German one does not, there is a note in this article explaining that royal German titles have been abolished for nearly 100 years, but in that case why have a section on "titles" at all? I imagine there are many other such articles, those are the first two I have found, I believe they are inaccurate, non-neutral and misleading and all references to "Royal Highnesses" and titles and styles in such articles, except perhaps for a brief note that there are no such things in Germany any more, should be removed. I wonder what others think. ThanksSmeat75 (talk) 00:01, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking around a little, I find, as I thought I would, a lot of articles like Monika, Princess of Hanover with a box for "Hanoverian Royal Family", there is no such thing now, and a lot of links to a whole series of "Royal Highnesses" who are no more royal highnesses than my cat. I think all of that just needs to be deleted. This Monika "Princess" of Hanover does not have an article on the German WP, she is not notable at all but for that some people call her by phoney titles, I would say the whole article should be nominated for deletion, once again thanks for any comments.Smeat75 (talk) 02:04, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * There is a clique of British genealogists that puts these flowery article titles everywhere. Both Franz and Ernest August have claims to the British throne. If it is a legally recognized title of nobility, it comes under WP:NCROY. Otherwise, WP:HONORIFIC applies and the "title" should drop out. Here "prince" and "duke" is functionally no different than "general", "CEO", or "saint," which you would never put in an article title. I don't have a problem with the boxes -- let the genealogists have their fun. Smell the virtue (talk) 08:54, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Music of Germany: Reorganisation
The current Music of Germany article is a mess, to say the least. It's a huge patchwork without any proper systematic order. So I proposed a reorganisation. Please check and participate: Talk:Music of Germany Thanks and happy holidays! Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 17:57, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Karlslust dance hall fire: Worst fire disaster in post-war Germany?
Dear all, I've just created this article about a fire that took place in Berlin in 1947, killing at least 80. According to a bunch of sources, this is the fire with the highest death toll in Berlin since World War II, so that point is clear. One source (a local newspaper which I would not trust too much) even calls it "worst in Germany". Is this true? Actually, I would even be gald if someone came up with a disaster with a higher death toll, because then the Karlslust case could be easily closed. Best regards.--FoxyOrange (talk) 18:16, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It may to depend on what you count as a fire. If we assume that de:Liste der größten Brandkatastrophen is complete for big German fires (which it isn't, as yours is missing), then these are the competitors:
 * Langenweddingen level crossing disaster (railway accident with explosion, leaving 94 dead; 1967)
 * de:Raketenkatastrophe von Dannenwalde (lightning-induced explosion of hundreds of Soviet rockets, leaving 50-300 Soviet soldiers dead; 1977).
 * Hans Adler 13:56, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

"awesomely weird"
I am looking for a translation to German for a line in a review: "It’s a wholly modern 2600 game that’s actually fun and as awesomely weird as old 2600 games like ...", namely "awesomely weird" which I find awesomely weird to capture, - ideas welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "krass abgefahren"? Jared Preston (talk) 16:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * faszinierend ungewöhnlich. Agathoclea (talk) 20:32, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BAUER GROUP
Dear Germany experts:

There is an article Bauer Group, but the article above seems to be about a different company. The original editor of this article has been blocked because of a promotional username. Is this a notable company? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 18:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Different companies, though both are headquartered in (different parts of) the state of Bavaria. The existing article Bauer Group is for the (larger) construction company with website www.bauer.de. The new one is for the gas compressor manufacturer with website www.bauergroup.de. Note the different company logos. With 1000 employees in 17 countries it should be notable, but I have seen little evidence that reliable sources have written about it.
 * At the moment the company seems to be in the process of moving its headquarters from Munich to Geretsried. Of course the local press for the latter small town is interested in this. That's the only coverage I have found, though there may be more in specialised publications. Hans Adler 13:41, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the analysis and the reference. I found some English references, so I postponed the deletion for now and it can stay in Afc until some more news reports show up.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 23:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Schufa Holding AG
Dear Germany experts: Here's another of those old abandoned Afc submissions that is about to be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable company? The article has interesting information. If so, are there references in German that could be added to make it a viable article? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 16:10, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I would consider it notable, it is quite an influential company. Calistemon (talk) 18:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have postponed the deletion of the submission; hopefully someone will take the time to fix it up and submit it.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 23:25, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * As the article says, they have data on 3/4 of Germans. And as the article explains, this is only possible because they consented. This is an extremely notable company. If they change something about their business, it can easily make the national TV news.
 * The article seems ready for publication to me. I would do it myself, but I have little time and am not familiar with the red tape that may or may not be required. Hans Adler 12:52, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Fine. It's done.  Thanks again! &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 14:43, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Stab-in-the-back myth
Eyes needed. An editor is pushing a POV counter to the standard histories of post WWI Germany and the causes of the rise of Nazi Germany. BMK: Grouchy Realist (talk) 07:21, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I would suggest that any editor, who wish to look at this issue, quickly glance at the following diff before diving in.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 07:29, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I suggest that any editor be conversant with standard histories before backing up this POV editor's skewing of our articles. BMK: Grouchy Realist (talk) 07:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Radmilo Armenulić
The article Radmilo Armenulić includes the following sentence: He was the coach of the province Niderzahsen. I assume Niedersachsen is meant. But I have never heard of a German state tennis coach. sr:Нидерзахсен is a redlink so I can't deduce anything from there. Any ideas? Agathoclea (talk) 10:34, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

x-posted from WT:TENNIS please respond there. Agathoclea (talk) 10:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Help for AfC submissions rooted in East Germany
copied from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany/GDR task force by —Kusma (t·c) 17:47, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

I recently tried to create an article for the former Janssen and Bechly Brewery in Neubrandenburg, Germany. Unfortunately the article was declined. As you are likely aware, finding good East German references in English is not always an easy task. Would the GDR task force be able to offer any advice or assistance? This brewery has an interesting history during an era when business had special challenges in Germany. Perhaps there are other references that I was not able to identify? Thank you. Eyeze (talk) 05:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The draft in question is at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Janssen and Bechly Brewery. I think I disagree with the last reviewer: the subject is probably notable enough, but the sources are indeed not very good (and the history doesn't seem to be complete; the last GDR company name was apparently VEB Getränkekombinat Neubrandenburg. One of their beers, Nordbräu, is still produced by de:Mecklenburgische Brauerei Lübz, says this). As an aside, you do not need to go through the AfC process unless you want to. If you want, you can always just copy or move the article to mainspace by yourself. It may be nominated for deletion, of course, but not being accepted by AfC doesn't indicate that it would be deleted in mainspace. —Kusma (t·c) 18:30, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

This is very helpful. I have added the Nordbräu history to the article. I don't know how to move the article to the mainspace. Are you able to do this? I would then be able to add categories and the image file. Also is it possible that the Nordbräu brand has changed ownership recently? The Lübzer website no longer refers to Nordbräu, but there is a Nordbräu brewery in Ingolstadt Nordbräu Thank you ! Eyeze (talk) 13:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Moving to mainspace works the same way you moved the article from your userspace to the Articles for Creation area, so anybody who is "autoconfirmed" (you are, like most editors) can do it. Don't know how to do the administrative cleanup for the AfC process, though, and I don't have the time to find out right now. Anyway, back to content. The Nordbräu from Ingolstadt seems to be older (and it is the name of the brewery, not the beer). However, there is a football club in Neubrandenburg, SV Nordbräu 78, still sponsored by Lübzer and apparently named after the Neubrandenburg beer (originally it was the BSG Getränkekombinat, see their history page. Happy editing, —Kusma (t·c) 13:43, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

I have added new content, links, and references. I have refrained from expanding upon the Nordbräu brand beyond the context of the Janssen & Bechly Brewery. Rather than risk deletion, I tagged the article with GDR=yes and resubmitted. Thank you for your guidance. Eyeze (talk) 18:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

New: Portal:Palatine Forest
I've just created a new portal for the Palatine Forest and intend to steadily add articles, many of which are still red links. Please feel free to help! Regards. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:12, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Palatine Forest/Leading Articles to the page Portal:Palatine Forest/Leading Articles. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission
Could you have a look at this submission? Thanks, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 12:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to User Study
Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 20:26, 10 February 2014 (UTC).

Freiberg am Neckar article
Though I am adverse to translating into English rather than from English into my native German, I felt called upon to do something about this stub dormant since 2009. I have concentrated on information I felt might be of interest to anglophone readers. With the additions of 9 February 2014 I think some mighty administrator or other potentate of the Wikipedian powers that be might erase the expansion and stub tags of this article... --Terminally uncool (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. I also added the template  to the talk page, which is required. Thank you for the translation. Bede735 (talk) 20:59, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Stub: Max Planck Institute for Metals Research
Three years ago, in March 2011, the former MPI for Metals Research was renamed "Max Planck Institute for Intelligent Systems". I would like to a) change the Header (but don´t know how to do this) and b) update the content (which is totally outdated) according to the german page (already updated). Please watch the page and its Talk page and give me some hints go get going. Thank you. IntoTheFuture1402 (talk) 06:56, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I made the move for you. The rest will need cleaning up and fleshing out with a bit more outside references. With your close involvment with the subject maybe it would be better if you just left links to references (ie newsarticles discussing the institute or the namechange) at the article talkpage (see WP:COI)  Agathoclea (talk) 09:41, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Rathaus no, ratusz yes?
I think we have a problem here, also ratusz = rathaus. Please see Talk:Ratusz for a discussion about what should we do with this topic. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

DNB template
I remember such a thing,, working, - no more. Did I miss something? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The template seems to have been moved to Template:German National Library portal, so probably you’ll have to write . I should have thought it would work with a redirect, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Rgds • TRN 3.svg • hugarheimur 14:10, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The documentation says otherwise, and if it is wrong, should be corrected. Also: something happens, you get a result from the correct website, just not the wanted one, - the id seems not to work. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:15, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry, my bad. DNB seems to be using new URLs. I have adjusted the template in accordance with its German counterpart. Should work now. Rgds • TRN 3.svg • hugarheimur 14:23, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you! - I wonder for how long that went wrong and nobody complained. I noticed with a new article, - don't check the old ones all the time for things that worked ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:29, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks, folks, for picking this up and fixing the template itself. Someone seems to have moved DNB portal without consultation last June and without adding appropriate hatnotes. In the fullness of time we could use DNB a dab page as was done for ADB, which acts as the dab for Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie etc. But that'll involve consensus - probably difficult to obtain at this stage - and moving a lot of links. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:05, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

TAFI needs global view
Today's article for improvement is Reconnaissance satellite, which is currently tagged with globalize. According to Rest of the World Reconnaissance Satellites, Germany has 3 recon satellites, but as yet the page has no material regarding Germany's program. Perhaps the editors on this page would be interested in adding the German perspective on the subject? 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 14:39, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Zentrale Unterstützungsgruppe Zoll
Zentrale Unterstützungsgruppe Zoll is completely unreferenced, but appears notable. The German Wikipedia counterpart at de:Zentrale Unterstützungsgruppe Zoll has a number of references (but no footnotes). If any project member have an interest in adding some references to this article, perhaps by reading the German counterpart and its sources, that would be great. TJRC (talk) 00:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Red link list
Hi, please can I point members to German Olympians who need articles. Thanks, Mat  ty. 007 13:16, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update
As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at ~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man ) 05:08, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Nice! But this works still pretty good for single pages in any language: http://stats.grok.se/ -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 14:44, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Elmar Pieroth. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 01:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

"Top 10 Largest Companies in..."
I wanted to let the project know I've just reverted dozens of edits from to articles on German cities adding similar "top 10 largest companies" lists. These are awfully spammy to say the least, from an unknown website. Your guess is as good as mine as to who, and on what grounds with what information these lists were published. Even if the editor isn't involved, and doesn't have a conflict of interest, then there's also a copyright question, seeing as the edits were made so quickly it was probably a cut-and-paste-job. A lot of work would have to be done to maintain said lists, and they weren't conform to Wikipedia format either. Jared Preston (talk) 19:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

German colonial history sources
Hi,

I am working on the history of Lae and surrounds in Papua New Guinea

Was wondering if there are any interested persons who have access to German research sites who may be able to contribute to the following pages;

]German_New_Guinea_Company Johann_Cesar_VI._Godeffroy Kaiser-Wilhelmsland Johann_Flierl

I am particular interested in all mission stations located around Lae and Morobe Province, including but not limited to Malahang, Gabmatsung/Gabmatzung and Gabsonkek and Nadzab

thank you,

Please message me on my talk page.

Phenss (talk) 21:45, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 05/03
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Karl-Marx-Monument. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 19:30, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 14/03
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/German-European Forum for Urban Security. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:30, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Missing important article: The Holocaust in Germany
I was surprised to see The Holocaust in Germany is missing. We have articles on Holocaust in many other European countries, as well as a helpful Category:The Holocaust in Germany. I hope someone can start this important entry? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That is indeed mind-boggling. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:31, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

East German surveillance and communication towers
Just added translations of 2 articles on East German surveillance and communication towers - the A Tower and the B Tower - for GDR fans. --Bermicourt (talk) 15:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hausen, Villenbach
Dear editors: Here's an abandoned Afc submission about a Bavarian village. Should this be kept and added to the encyclopedia, or is it already covered under one of the various other Hausen articles? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 13:42, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd add it. It contains far more information than many settlement articles on Wikipedia and my experience is that others will add to it over time. Your reference is the official site of its parent municipality... and the image of the sign kind of backs it up! --Bermicourt (talk) 15:45, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, done. Thanks for your input. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 21:14, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Hamburg - name of the St Pauli port area
For those interested in all things Hamburg there is a move request discussion at Talk:St. Pauli Piers. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:57, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Egbert Jahn
Dear editors: There's an article about this person in the German Wikipedia. Is this a notable professor? There is so much confusing detail in the article I can't tell. Maybe the German article is more clearly written. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:15, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The article has been cleaned up and moved to mainspace thanks to.

WP Germany in the Signpost
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Germany for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 02:29, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Only two people have answered so far; please go and check it out even if you only answer one or two questions. —Kusma (t·c) 18:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Three :-) time to add more. Agathoclea (talk) 18:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Articles needed for cultural/musical festivals in Berlin
Hi! I think the following topics should be covered by at least some compact articles, as they're relevant not just for Berlin:


 * Karneval der Kulturen (Carnival of Cultures), see de:Karneval der Kulturen
 * Berlin Festival (web), see de:Berlin Festival
 * Berlin Music Week (web), see de:Berlin Music Week

Thanks & all the best, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 12:53, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Dom-Römer Project in Frankfurt
Hi! I started an article on the Dom-Römer Project in the old town of Frankfurt, please help to extend it. Thanks! -- Cheers Horst-schlaemma (talk) 16:02, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Nemesis
Dear Germany experts: This old Afc submission about a film has some references in German. Are they reliable sources, and should it be kept or deleted as a stale draft? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 02:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Anne Delong, thanks for asking WikiProject Germany. Der Tagesspiegel, Berliner Morgenpost and Berliner Zeitung are notable German newspapers, and the articles cited are serious film reviews. So I think we could keep the new article as a stub, although I have not checked every detail. Also, references as footnotes would be appreciated.--Aschmidt (talk) 15:27, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Great! I have postponed its deletion for six months.  Maybe someone who speaks German could place the review references beside appropriate facts in the text.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 18:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

FYI: The Signpost on WikiProject Germany
The Wikipedia Signpost in its current issue has conducted an interview with users Gerda Arendt, Kusma, and Agathoclea about the background to WikiProject Germany. Congratulations to you, and thank you for the insight you've provided in the talk. I think it's particularly interesting to everyone who is not that much into English Wikipedia and wants to learn more about the history of the project. Must read! ;) --Aschmidt (talk) 23:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Ochsenblut
I created an article on this cocktail, but I can't find very good sourcing for it. Is it a real thing? Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Titanic_(magazine)
To be honest, I am not familiar with the english wiki nor this project. However, I found the remark "citation needed" in the a.m. article, concerning ex-chancellors Kohl nickname "Birne" (pear) created by the satiric magazine Titanic. The german wiki article about Helmut Kohl knows a citation #63 for that, leading to the news magazine Der Spiegel / einestages (one day) where you can find the explanation precisely below that photo. Hopefully someone could be so kind to insert this at the right place and the "citation needed"-remark will be removed. Thank you very much and best regards from Germany, Uli Nobbe (talk) 00:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC) (my user page in german)

Invitation to Participate in a User Study - Final Reminder
Would you be interested in participating in a user study of a new tool to support editor involvement in WikiProjects? We are a team at the University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within WikiProjects, and we are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visual exploration tool for Wikipedia. Given your interest in this Wikiproject, we would welcome your participation in our study. To participate, you will be given access to our new visualization tool and will interact with us via Google Hangout so that we can solicit your thoughts about the tool. To use Google Hangout, you will need a laptop/desktop, a web camera, and a speaker for video communication during the study. We will provide you with an Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 17:01, 17 April 2014 (UTC).

WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/German politicians
The above page consists of a large number of German politicians lacking their own page. I hope the members of this project will try to create these articles.--Skr15081997 (talk) 13:28, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Katja Windt
Dear Germany experts: There is plenty of information about this university president, but most of it is not in English. Can someone who speaks German help me to find a few reliable sources that are not created by her institution? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 12:37, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bund der Deutschen Landjugend
Dear Germany experts: Is this a notable organization, and should the old Afc submission be kept instead of being deleted as a stale draft? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 16:50, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Greater Romania (political concept)
Would you please tell us your opinion on this matter? The concept concerns Germany (e.g. Molotov-Ribbentrop pact). All comments are welcome. Fakirbakir (talk) 08:14, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Cornelius Gurlitt
I would appreciate additional input here. Thank you. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:45, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Germany-Poland border for DYK
I've finished expanding the history; I am sure much more could be added but the article is long enough for a DYK. Feel free to expand; we could use a better map, geographical description, and much more. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

How to get PDF official maps of German cities?
I want to cite the map of Lautzenhausen to show that Frankfurt Hahn Airport is partially in the municipality. Where can I find PDF official maps for this? WhisperToMe (talk) 12:49, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

RfC on Angela Merkel
...regarding the inclusion of a photograph of her grandfather in the article. Participation welcome.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:17, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Pfalz, Pirmasens, Lemberg, translation error
I am a new user...

1. When I look at the Lemberg site, I ask Google to translate from German to English. 2. Google is incorrectly translating "Lemberg" to "Lviv".

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemberg_(Pfalz)

Thanks for your help. Doug 68.164.236.226 (talk) 03:45, 3 June 2014 (UTC)


 * On English Wikipedia, Lemberg redirects to Lviv because it's the German name for that Ukrainian city. Personally I wonder whether that's right because there are many other Lembergs (see Lemberg (disambiguation)), but there it is.
 * If you're using google translate to expand the Lemberg, Germany article from its German Wiki counterpart, you'll have to change Lviv back to Lemberg. You'll also have to make a lot of other changes as google translate is often confused or chooses the wrong sense of a word. I'll help if I have time. Good luck anyway! --Bermicourt (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Another example for my collection of examples where Google produces nonsense instead of something one could use as substitute for a translation. I especially like how it alternates between "Lviv" and "Lvov". —Kusma (t·c) 13:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014
You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles within Category:LGBT in Europe may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 26/05
Draft:Pohnpei's Bell Tower. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:21, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * There is a preexisting article at Catholic Belltower Agathoclea (talk) 19:39, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 02/05
Draft:Cornelia Schlosser. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 12:18, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * looks ready to me Agathoclea (talk) 19:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Germany At Wikimania 2014
Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: Project leaflets Adikhajuria (talk) 10:43, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Is anyone working on this?

Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis
The following individuals who are in the scope of this project are showing to be alive on the English wiki, but deceased on another language wiki:


 * Erica Beer: de:Gestorben 2013
 * Freimut Stein: de:Gestorben 1986 / ru:Умершие в 1986 году
 * Marie Luise Bulst-Thiele: de:Gestorben 1992
 * Peter Kracke: de:Gestorben 1998
 * Petrus Wandrey: de:Gestorben 2012

Please help to find reliable sources to confirm if these individuals are alive or dead, or correct any mis-categorization on the relevant foreign-language article(s). Please see WP:LIVINGDEAD for more info and raise any issues on the talkpage. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 18:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

RfC on Germany: replacement of images
There is now an RfC about replacing the images of the section "Weimar Republic and the Third Reich". Your participation is welcome on Talk:Germany. --walkeetalkee 18:25, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Laut.de
Would http://www.laut.de be considered a reliable source by Wikipedia standards? I tried citing it in an article, but the source was challenged by another editor. I know it's a non-English source, but they are allowed to be cited to a certain extent. I tried asking this at RSN, but it was suggested that I asked here. Kokoro20 (talk) 14:13, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Partly based on the claim "Die laut.de-Redaktion wurde mit dem Landesmedienpreis "Online Redaktion 2002" . . . ausgezeichnet", I would imagine they could be treated as a music magazine run by professional journalists. --Boson (talk) 14:44, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't actually know German myself. Would you mind telling me what that translates to in English? Kokoro20 (talk) 14:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The "Impressum" shows that it is structured using a professional journalist team, You need to be beware that some of their content is a user forum, which would not qualify as RS and by the nature of their placement as a journalistic outlet connected to a radiostation any output might need to be checked if it just recyling pressreleases if used to establish notability. The above quote roughly translates that they where given a governmentgiven award in Baden-Württemberg for online news editing. Agathoclea (talk) 21:37, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 25/06
Draft:Members of the Frankfurt Parliament. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 26/06
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sieben Linden Ecovillage. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 23:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Porsche
For your information, I am fielding a RfC with Porsche (to which this project has indicated interest) as one example at Wikipedia talk:Article titles Yiba  (talk &#124; contribs) 09:21, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Portal
I have just removed the news section from the portal, as it was getting a bit embarrassing (showing "news" from 2013). It would be fantastic if anyone wanted to step forward and do some portal maintenance. Be bold and turn the portal into something awesome again :) —Kusma (t·c) 08:12, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I adjusted by reducing the DYK section to seven hooks, which is the current number on the Main page. The record is awesome, - feel free to add by writing DYK articles related (however distantly) to Germany, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Kusma, unfortunately there is a similar issue on many of the German regional portals where they have e.g. "Image of the Month" or "Article of the Month" - no-one updates them. The only way round this is to create 12 images or articles and rotate them automatically. I was able to do this on Portal:East Frisia, by changing the way the German Wiki portal did it - they have a queue of new images and articles ready to go. I've just got 12 that rotate around every year. This doesn't solve the "news" section issue though! --Bermicourt (talk) 09:59, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The images on the main Germany portal are selected randomly from a list of possible choices. I used to change them monthly, but gave up after a while. Now the only thing that changes based on day and month is the anniversaries section. —Kusma (t·c) 12:31, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Portal:Rhön
And here's another embryonic portal, this time for the Rhön Mountains where I've had several enjoyable holidays! Please feel free to enhance it and add articles --Bermicourt (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Georg Dehio Book Prize - help needed
I am unable to read German. Please may I have help reviewing this draft? Fiddle  Faddle  13:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

"acting president" infoboxes for Jens Böhrnsen and Horst Seehofer
It seems to be unstoppable that infoboxes are imnsertrted about those two having been "acting president", and even succession boxes as president. Can't that nonsense be stopped? --Caballito (talk) 17:20, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Hessian Bibliography
I've added a template - Template:HessBib PPN - that allows links to be created (or more likely copied from the equivalent German Wikipedia article) to the online Hessian Bibliography. Bermicourt (talk) 20:08, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

West Germany and East Germany
Germanies, West and East have been requested to be renamed to their official names of FDR and GDR, see talk:West Germany for the discussion -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:02, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * "FDR"??? Did you mean "FRG"? Anyway, isn't this obsolote since 25 years? Greetz, Lost Boy (talk) 10:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops, that's a typo. Yes, FRG. Anyways, the move request was closed as forumshopping, as the nominator had already discussed it at Talk:East Germany -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:35, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


 * NOTE discussion is continuing at Talk:East Germany -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 03:51, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The new discussion has been closed -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses
Pleas add information about this country to this articles. --Kaiyr (talk) 17:09, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Brides school
Dear Germany experts: This old AfC submission will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable topic, and should the page be kept and improved instead? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 04:59, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think this could be covered by one sentence in the Schutzstaffel article. Also, the current name for the article seems undescriptive. If created, Schutzstaffel brides school would probably be better. But I can't see why, with its limited contend, it should be created at all. Calistemon (talk) 06:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * A significantly better article on the topic already exists at Reich Bride Schools. —Kusma (t·c) 09:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * As Kusma points out, the topic is covered by the cited article, "Reich Bride Schools"; so there is no needed to keep the draft. Kierzek (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding the other article. That makes the decision easy; the page has been deleted.  It had one source: Deutsche Mutter, bist du bereit...: Alltag im Lebensborn, Verlag, Berlin 1997, ISBN 3-7466-8094-8.  Would this be a useful addition to the existing article? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 13:35, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Since it is not used as a source in that article, I would list it under "Further reading". Kierzek (talk) 14:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 22:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BuS Elektronik
Dear Germany experts: This old abandoned AfC submission appears to be about a fairly large company. Are there references in German, and should the page be kept instead of being deleted as a stale draft? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 22:13, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/German Civil Peace Service
Dear Germany experts: This old AfC submission was obviously declined for the wrong reason. Is this a notable topic? Should the page be kept and improved rather than being deleted as a stale draft? &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 15:36, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete imo. While a quick search shows several German-language books, most of them appear to be written by members or former members of this collaboration. The article itself lacks independent sources and describes this organization - based on the available sources - from its own point of view (in large parts more like a press release or "About us" summary). It was also created by a single author (their only contribution), another red flag for possible neutrality and COI issues. GermanJoe (talk) 14:06, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * PS - thanks for taking care of those old cases, Anne. GermanJoe (talk) 14:07, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, for reasons given above. Kierzek (talk) 22:09, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay - it's gone!&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 22:25, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

European Sleep Apnea Database deletion discussion
European Sleep Apnea Database is undergoing a deletion discussion, AFD page at Articles for deletion/European Sleep Apnea Database. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 03:49, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * European Sleep Apnea Database

Amon Göth
Just check here too: Is there any justification in German sources for spelling Göth as "Goeth", is this real or a Hollywoodism? In ictu oculi (talk) 00:06, 24 July 2014 (UTC) Anyone know? Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Don't know, but  German (BRD) spelling  is regulated by  law. I  would assume  that  the use of the Umlaut  is prescribed and the spelling out  of the the diacritics is usually  due to  a lack  of accessibility  on  a non German keyboard or typewriter. I'm sure the Rechtschreibreform von 1996 would have had something  to  say  about  it  but  I  had left  Germany  by  then, having  been brought  up  under the former German language rules. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, so Amon Göth in German sources may be a hyper-correction? In ictu oculi (talk) 23:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Spelling of proper names was not changed in any of the orthography reforms (not in ~1900 and not in 1996) as far as I know. Göth is the correct form for Amon Göth, but the similarly-named poet is correctly spelled as Goethe. —Kusma (t·c) 08:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Inactive members
I see the list of members contains a number of editors I haven't seeen around for a while. Any ideas on how to keep the list up-to-date?

I would suggest, at least, moving users who have not made any contributions to English Wikipedia for about 6 months into a section headed "Inactive members" and completely removing any users who have not contributed to English Wikipedia for more than 12 months. We could also do the same for any users who have not contributed to German topics for a similar period, where known. Comments? --Boson (talk) 13:31, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Is that any contributions at all or just on Germany-related articles? --Bermicourt (talk) 13:35, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of first applying it to any contributions at all, since that is easy. Later it could be extended to Germany -related topics, perhaps with a longer period, Of course, anyone could move their name back if they thought it didn't apply. If it were later applied to Germany-related articles, it might be sensible to first send a message, but that would probably mean using a bot (or more work). On the other hand, I would expect that project members who are still active in some way (even if they haven't made any edits recently) would have this page on their watchlist.
 * I looked at the member list because of the above query about Wikimania and the first user I clicked on hadn't made any contributions at all since March 2011.


 * I was also thinking of going to Wikmania this year, since it is in London, so it would also be interesting to see if anyone else will be there. --Boson (talk) 15:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Some time in the past I tried to keep up with a similar cleanup of the members list. Thanks for the reminder. Agathoclea (talk) 17:29, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I think pruning the member list is a sensible thing to do (I can't think of a use for an outdated, but longer, member list). Going to Wikimania sounds like a great idea, actually. I'm pondering whether to go for a one-day trip on Saturday or on Sunday – any suggestions? —Kusma (t·c) 18:25, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I ended up not going (too busy after returning from another trip). Did anybody else go and was it any fun? —Kusma (t·c) 09:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

bulthaup
Hi all, I would like to update the article about the German kitchen manufacturer bulthaup based on the German version that I already completed. The article will be supported by a comprehensive literature research that I did for the German version. Would there be anything to reconsider before starting? Thank you for your time and help! Best, --B-social media (talk) 07:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


 * If you are affiliated with the company in some way, you should familiarize yourself with Conflict of interest.
 * If you receive compensation for your edits to Wikipedia, you should be particularly careful to observe the Terms of Use, including
 * "... you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. You must make that disclosure in at least one of the following ways:
 * a statement on your user page,
 * a statement on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or
 * a statement in the edit summary accompanying any paid contributions."
 * --Boson (talk) 08:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Dear Boson,
 * thank you very much for your quick reply. As I already updated the German article all together with a Wikipedia mentor by using over 40 reliable sources, I believe to have followed all conventions that may apply. Thus I am very familiar with the article Conflict of interest. My only goal is to provide reliable and relevant information about the brand and its historical and current products without any ad-wording.
 * I am planning on setting another note on the talk page of the article and would start if no one objects against my update.
 * Thanks again!
 * Best, --B-social media (talk) 22:07, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

invalid certificate
When I clicked on the JonDonym home page link at the bottom of theJava Anon Proxy article my Mac dropped a message saying that the site had an invalid certificate. Has Wikipedia included a dodgy link or is my Mac giving me wrong information? (80.47.234.208 (talk) 08:55, 6 September 2014 (UTC))

Heinz Linge
In the Wikipedia article on Linge, the following text appears:

"On 2 May, the badly burned remains of Hitler, Braun, and two dogs (thought to be Blondi and her offspring Wulf) were discovered in a shell crater by a unit of SMERSH. On 5 May, they secretly removed the remains.[10]" The source pertains to Vinogradov, 2005.

However, the BBC in the UK has just issued a series of archive interviews, one of which was with Heinz Linge in 1955. He gave a different story, and I have summarized it below. You may use this text, if you wish, to amend the Wikipedia article on Linge:

However, Linge was interviewed by John Ellison for the BBC programme In Town Tonight, broadcast on 29 October 1955, and he stated the Hitler’s body was never found by the Soviets, claiming that it still lay “in a common grave in a park in the Chancellery.” He supported this statement by saying that during his time in captivity, “the Russians questioned me repeatedly about it”, proof in his mind that the body was never found by them.

Source: BBC Television: Archive: BBC iPlayer  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oasis6767 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * True, that the whole "body" was never found and recovered. Only a very, very small portion of Hitler's remains were recovered. I have tweaked the article section. Further, as the Death of Adolf Hitler points out, the skull fragment the Soviet officials had long believed to be Hitler's has been proven through DNA testing to not have been that of a man. Only the jaw fragments (dental remains) found were Hitler's. Kierzek (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Help requested from WP:GERMANY members
As a contribution towards Wikipedia's coverage of the First World War in this centenary year, I've written an article covering Carl Hans Lody, a German naval reserve officer who became the first German spy to be shot in Britain during the war (and the first person executed in the Tower of London for 167 years). I've been able to make use of archive material and contemporary news reports to document the story of Carl Hans Lody in, I think, probably greater detail than anyone has managed before in print. The centenary of his death is coming up on 6 November 2014; I'm hoping to request that it should be the featured article of the day. Given the short timeframe, I've taken the unusual step of bringing this article directly to Featured Article Candidates. I've aimed to write it from the outset as an FA-quality article, drawing my experience as the author of numerous Featured and Good Articles. I'd be very grateful if WP:GERMANY members could have a look at the article and provide any feedback at Featured article candidates/Carl Hans Lody/archive1. Prioryman (talk) 15:01, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

German Unity Day
This national day is in two days, and the article is start class with three references. George8211 / T 19:45, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

WP:VG comments subpages cleanup
Hi, there is currently a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games regarding whether it would be acceptable to permanently shift all comments subpages associated with WP:VG articles into talk. This shift would follow the recommended approach given at WP:DCS. The WikiProject Germany articles that would be affected by this action are these: If you have objections related specifically to WikiProject Germany's use of these subpages, please make this clear at the discussion so that other unrelated talk pages can be cleaned up where appropriate. Thank you. -Thibbs (talk) 15:55, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The Settlers II

Template:German_Reich
I added a question about the contents of the Template:German_Reich template on Template_talk:German_Reich. This is a historical project and the hypothetical 'Fourth Reich' seems out of place.
 * Agree with the IP's concern and boldly fixed. Please discuss, if you disagree. GermanJoe (talk) 13:45, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

German citizen?
See Talk:Björn Werner and "German-born" in lead. BLP issue. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:15, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

European Central Bank's GAR
European Central Bank, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. GamerPro64 03:05, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Peer review Otto I
An article about Otto I, one of the most influential (and fascinating) early German kings, is up for peer review. Feedback from interested editors would be greatly appreciated. GermanJoe (talk) 14:25, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Benno Orenstein
Can someone who speaks German/English fluently please translate this page? But please do it yourself--don't just use google translate. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:31, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
 * If you are able to add inline references as well, that would be very good. And add parents/children ideally. But a good translation would be a good place to start. Please keep me posted on my talkpage. Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:36, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Bold claims in the Kirsten Heiberg article
"Heiberg was a Nazi, but was not punished by the Norwegians, as she was a German citizen". (This is from the Kirsten Heiberg article.)

Are there any other articles that claim that Germans did not get punished for crimes in Norway? --Faltjingle (talk) 11:36, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Please make sure to avoid spam links and information. Information from reliable, independent sources about the new book are OK (though it would be better to wait for official publication). Information added by the author himself or his self-published website are most certainly not OK. GermanJoe (talk) 12:01, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Munich Metropolitan Region article missing
Hi, one major article within this project's scope is still missing: Munich Metropolitan Region. It could be created using information from the German article. Do you think you can do something about it? Thank you and prost, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 14:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The "old" article was deleted due to notability concerns, not sure if this still applies - User:Explicit was the deleting admin. Maybe you can ask to get it restored for expansion? (in my opinion all recognized Metropolitan Regions are de-facto notable, but other editors seem to disagree) GermanJoe (talk) 14:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It was deleted via WP:PROD, which allows undeletion if somebody asks for it. I take the above as an undeletion request and will restore it. —Kusma (t·c) 14:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It's really strange how this got deleted without any concerns. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 17:30, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Neuschwanstein Castle Article; Architecture; Interior
" The total floor space of all floors amounts to nearly 6,000 square metres (65,000 sq ft).[36] "

Can someone doublecheck this conversion? It is done by a formula in the html of the document but I, who is not a math-person of any sort, checked it at a conversion website because it looked wrong to me. It came up with a number closer to 19,000 sq.ft.

This is the first time I have made a suggestion, please forgive any errors in my format or placement. Please correct them as needed.

Jeanjaz (talk) 09:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The conversion is correct. 6000 meters are approximately 20000 ft, but 6000 square meters are approximately 65000 sq ft. —Kusma (t·c) 09:57, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Kusma! I'm afraid my ignorance was showing.
 * Jeanjaz (talk) 08:17, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Party finance in Germany
Can anybody who is in charge please re-check the quality status of that article? After putting a lot of work into it some months ago I asked for a re-evaluation. However, the quality status is still unchanged. If the quality of the article really is C-Class I would like to know why? And what could be done to move it to B-Class? Thank you for your efforts!Khnassmacher (talk) 07:09, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This is not meant as a full assessment (I am most certainly not in charge :) ), but the article has 4 main flaws in my opinion:
 * The lead, especially its first paragraph, doesn't provide a clear succinct definition of the article topic and of the article's intended scope. The list of questions in its second half should be converted to plain encyclopedic information (i.e. "Reports include data about ...") and moved further down in the lead. The lead's second para contains tidbits of several different aspects (history, international comparison, revenues) without forming a coherent common theme.
 * The whole article uses a lot of essay-like textbook phrases and fails WP:NOTJOURNAL, especially points 6-8 (as a sidenote, de-Wiki and en-Wiki differ somewhat in their approaches here: essay-ish text elements are more common on de-Wiki).
 * The article's main text lacks some kind of introduction for casual readers and immediately jumps into a complex analysis of the presented data. Together with the usage of academic phrases and lots of statistics this probably makes it difficult to follow for non-academic readers. "History" may be better split in 2-3 subsections and eventually moved further up to provide early background information for the topic (just an idea, would have to see how it works out in the final article).
 * Bolding of keywords (all keywords, except the lead's article topic) should be removed. Structure of the reference sections and header titles do not follow Wikipedia's guidelines (MOS:LAYOUT).
 * Points 1. and 4. should be relatively easy to improve, however improving the other 2 points would require rephrasing throughout the whole main text. The main concern is not the accuracy of the content (this looks great on a first quick read), but its structure and presentation for a wider audience. Hope those points are helpful (unfortunately I don't have time for a more in-depth review). GermanJoe (talk) 14:19, 3 November 2014 (UTC)


 * @GermanJoe - Hi, thank you very much for some helpful advice. I will consider points 1, 2, 4 and re-work some paragraphs.
 * What really bothers me is point 3: Unfortunately I have no idea what a "casual reader" would expect to find in an article. The reader I have in mind looks for concise, but detailed information - and that is what I try to offer as someone who has lived with the subject for more than 30 years (especially in my own country but also in the U.S. and in Canada).
 * As I am an academic (and likely to stay one till the end of my days) I got used to run into the formula "academic language" whenever folks have difficulties to comprehend the complexities of everyday life. However, the term is not too helpful for me because my personal career began in adult education. There I learned to try to speak and write as "non-academic" as I possibly can - always working to stay comprehendable to non-academics. Nonetheless I will go and double-check my wording after your warning.
 * To talk about funds raised and spent to influence the outcome of political competition (in particular elections) will be hard without giving amounts of money or "data". However, the data tables have been inserted after someone suggested that some statistics were needed to meet B-class criteria. The text should (as I feel) still be readable for people who just ignore the tables.
 * By the by, I contributed articles on the same subject to the last (and final) paper edition of Brockhaus' well-known Encyclopedia - at least, their standards should not be less rigid those of Wikipedia. Khnassmacher (talk) 15:54, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No need to agree on all points (some of them are certainly influenced by personal view and preferences) - I am glad, you found some of them helpful to improve the article. Just for clarity, I did not ask for removal of all statistics, but mentioned them as one possible factor among others, where non-academic readers may find it difficult to access the article content. I wouldn't focus on this single point too much, perhaps another editor is able to offer more advice, after the other three points have been improved. GermanJoe (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

German translation
Not sure if you can help me and if it's the best place to ask but I'd like a help with a translation from German. In fact, the newspaper is Swiss (should I go to WP Switzerland?) but I wonder if someone can help me. The article by Neue Zürcher Zeitung can be found here: http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/startseite/article7KAAY-1.462597. Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 15:39, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, it looks like some (rather random) essay to me. What do you want it translated for? -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 16:41, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh,, I forgot to explain... (facepalm). I was searching about Brainstorm, a Brazilian film, when I found it. I was hoping it would have some kind of useful info in the paragraph that star with "«Bicho de 7 cabeças» (Brainstorm), das Langfilmdébut der 35-jährigen Brasilianerin Laís Bodanzky". Thanks, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 18:20, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Anyone? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 22:03, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Some of the central points (from the author's point of view):
 * The movie is too eager for (trivial) effects - a disconcerting freak show.
 * It fails to present deeper insight in the underlying emotional conflict.
 * Sam Fuller's "Shock Corridor" and similar Cinema Novo movies present the topic a lot more "realistic" and better (see above points).
 * The points are a bit paraphrased, as the author really doesn't present a clear chain of arguments - only some general observations. Disclaimer: if you find a more in-depth review, that would be preferable. This review is riddled with tabloid snarks and only semi-funny puns (be glad, you don't read German). It may give a first quick judgement, but cannot be considered a thorough review. Hope that helps. GermanJoe (talk) 22:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ! Well, I was looking for reviews in English at first but I came across it (probably because it has "Brainstorm" on it). I thought it would be good to give a more global vision or at least expand the second paragraph of "Critical reception". Do you think this is not an advisable source? Gabriel Yuji (talk) 22:16, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You could note, that this reviewer criticized the movie for its over usage of effects or something like this. But I would just mention it very briefly and describe it as one reviewer's opinion (not necessarily representative). It's an almost typical newspaper review: trying to be funny and hip instead of offering some balanced, thoughtful insight (/small rant off). GermanJoe (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm, thanks. Yeah, a brief mention is fine for me. Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 22:46, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:PEGIDA
There is an ongoing move discussion. --George Ho (talk) 19:44, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Category:Manor houses in Germany
Category:Manor houses in Germany has only eight entries. Is it under-populated, or duplicating another category? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:31, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * +3 now (maybe a few more are hidden in other subcats, but not many). GermanJoe (talk) 23:25, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of manor houses in Germany. However, many of them are called Schloss Foo which the unaware often translate as "castle"; so they may be categorized as such. A schloss may well be a castle, or indeed a palace, but you generally only have to look at them to realise that they are really just manor houses or mansions. This contrasts with Burg which is almost invariably a medieval castle. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:35, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The German wiki category lists 400 or even more manor houses (haven't checked all subcats). But a lot of those houses have only regional or even local notability - probably only interesting for a German readership or specialists in German architecture and regional history. GermanJoe (talk) 14:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Link to most popular articles
I have added a link to last month's top 100 most popular project articles on the project's main page in "Scope" (mostly to get more experience with Wiki markup). The specific month is variable, calculated from CURRENTMONTH and YEAR. This could be a useful tool to check interesting high-traffic articles and do some improvements in spare time. Formatting and placement can be improved, if necessary. GermanJoe (talk) 06:35, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Thuringia
Some further updates are needed for the new government. I only did some of the most basic nav template work on Bodo Ramelow. Is there anybody who wants to give him an infobox? (too little wikitime these days). —Kusma (t·c) 11:12, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * On a related note, I was really surprised that Michael Müller (politician) was a redlink until this morning. —Kusma (t·c) 12:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)