Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Green Bay Packers/Archive 1

Seattle portion of Ted Thompson's Wiki page
I take exception with whomever posted that Thompson drafted all those notable Seattle draft picks, like Shawn Alexander. He was in charge of Pro Player acquisitions, and wouldn't have been scouting. Holmgren and Wolf were known for disregarding his opinions on draft matters in Green Bay, so I find it hard to believe Holmgren suddenly felt Thompson was his go-to guy in the draft in Seattle.

This was a guy who didn't want Wolf to trade for Favre or Keith Jackson, two very important parts of the 1996 Super Bowl XXXI team.

I'm sorry, but unless someone has something a little better than a puff piece from the Packers official web site - which has been known to tell a whopper or two in it's time, I cannot see how this stuff passes the sniff test and remains in his Wiki bio at Ted Thompson without at least SOME citation or verification. It may as well be an except from Grimm's fairy Tales for all the credibility it carries and whomever wrote it up in the first place doesn't strike me as all that knowledgeable about front office jobs in the NFL. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 10:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Nobody objected or responded to my comment about a lack of verification for Thompson having any input in drafting players in Seattle. I left a comment to that end, waited a week, and have now deleted those parts of the Seattle portion stating Thompson had responsibility for drafting certain players. So long as someone can cite a verifiable source - as REQUIRED under the living persons biography Wiki rules - I will not challenge it further, but until such time as it conforms to the rules here, it is gone. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 02:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Wisconsin
Should there be any relationship between this subproject and WikiProject Wisconsin? What are the established precedents? Royal broil 02:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No clue, technically this is a sub-project of the NFL Wikiproject, just like the Vikings, Bears, Browns, etc. I wouldn't mind a connection with Wisconsin, cause that could only lead to more participants here.  I don't know of any precedent, but if you want to propose something to Wisconsin, then thats fine with me.  I would back any connection there.  Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 03:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Starting Quarterbacks Template
I started the PackersQuarterbacks template, although the list is not complete. Many historical players were simply listed as "backs" so I'm not sure what position they actually played. Also, "starts" were not tracked so it's harder to find out if they were starting QBs. Please update if you have more information. Larkworb (talk) 20:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * From what I've have heard from the creator of the Pats starting QB template creator, this template isnt for every starting QB, just the main one from each season. So what he did was go through and see who the leading passer was in each season and add the name.  I looked at it pretty quick and it looks good.  Good job!  Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 20:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I added the other QBs who have been season leaders is the passing department and added the template to each QB's page. There is one QB who doesnt have a page, Jug Girard so if anyone feels like making a stub, that would be great.  If no one does it I will make it in a day or so.  Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 21:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

A.J. Hawk
Does anybody want to help me expand the AJ Hawk article? RC-0722 (talk) 14:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I can help find sources and maybe some pics. I already have a bunch on my plate these comings weeks, but I could also do a peer review or help out in defined areas.  I'll start looking for some sources and see if I can find some pics.  Tell me what your plan is and what you need me to do!!  Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 18:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I can help you bud. i can look for all kinds of pics and some info about his early life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pookeo9 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's a list of sources I found:
 * Combined with the other sources on the page, I think this is a good base of information to start expanding the article.  Gonzo fan2007  talk ♦ contribs 18:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I Found another link of A.J Hawk's stats with the Ohio State Buckeyes. --Pookeo9 19:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pookeo9 (talk • contribs)

Also I found a video of A.J Hawks selection in the 2006 nfl draft. Pookeo9

Great! We need to rename a few things (e.g. pro summary into NFL records), merge the personal life section into actual sentences, add references, and consider rewording (I wood do it all myself but I'm very busy this weekend). RC-0722 (talk) 06:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Dont worry RC i could do some of the rewording and add references.--Pookeo9 (talk) 12:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hawk will be coming up on some Packers milestones over the next couple years. Foremost is the number of total tackles by a Packers LB. When Nick Barnett left GB for Free Agency, he was spoken of as very close to claiming the GB number of tackles by a LB record. (787 or 788 after his 8th season- depending on which source you believe.) Hawk is currently at 713 or 714 - again depending on which source you believe - after 7 seasons and should surpass Barnett in 2013. The reason I question sourcing is because I downloaded the updated 2012 Green Bay Packers record book and found it to be partially a work of fiction & not to be trusted as a legitimate source of Packers team records. I'm sure most of the entries are probably true but there are enough incorrect records listed to make the entire official Packers PDF copy of the team's records suspect. EXAMPLE: Nick Barnett is listed as holding the single season total tackles record with 194. This is simply not true according to every other source, including NFL.com. The best he ever did with the Packers was 138 in a single season (2005). Be VERY cautious about citing the official Packers record book for stuff. It's not what I consider a reliable source - even if it is an accepted standard for inclusion as a Wikipedia source by most any definition set forth here. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 20:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers Seasons
I've expanded the artical on the '1919 Green Bay Packers season'. I'd also like to expand the other Packers seasons articals and get them up to starter quality. Hopefully, this will provide the resources to get the 'History of the Green Bay Packers' article to A or even Featured status. --James Fahringer (talk) 04:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Images
I found 73 images of the NFL's greatest team during warmups for the Oct. 2007 Bears game from Ryan Grant's article, and here they are. I added an image to Deanna Favre's article. There are many more images that could be cropped out. Go, Pack, Go! Royal broil 01:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a great find Royalbroil, thanks!!  « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  08:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposal
I currently have a proposal at User_talk:SatyrBot/WikiProject_new_pages which would have a Bot automatically go through our categories and check for newly created articles that arent tagged with our project banner and place the pages in WikiProject Green Bay Packers/No banner. If you have any comments on this, feel free to ask. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs)  21:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Article deletion
Note that Snow Bowl (Green Bay) has been nominated for deletion: Articles for deletion/Snow Bowl (Green Bay). I have left my comment and you are invited to express your thoughts. Royal broil 18:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for notifying the project, Royalbroil. I still wish I saw your user name under our members list ;-)   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  19:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm already in five WikiProjects plus adminship, so my plate is full. I am certainly a friend of the WikiProject. I occasionally go to Green Bay, so let me know if a picture of a public place is needed. Also let me know when you need a peer review on an article. Royal broil  03:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's ok Rb, you're probably more active in the project than most members :P And thanks for the offer, I'll probably take you up on it one these days!   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  04:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration
Are you interested in doing a collaboration to creating a WP:DYK article on the Green Bay Packerettes? We could create it in a temporary subpage under this WikiProject and move it to mainspace after it's done. Royal broil 01:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure! WikiProject Green Bay Packers/Green Bay Packerettes. I'll start looking for some sources, pictures, etc.  What are your plans for the article?   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  04:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My mind is an empty slate, maybe their history to start. I know there are several articles written about them in the Green Bay Press Gazette. I would expect some in The Post Crescent. Royal broil  05:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

(←)Hey Royalbroil, what do you think about expanding the article to cover all of the previous cheer squads for the Packers? From all that I have read there is a rich history about all the past cheer squads, and I think it could be a great article over the whole subject. I'm going to hit the library either today or tomorrow and see if I can hunt down a book or two and maybe some other sources. I'll put a couple sources on the talk page that I found about the cheerleaders. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs)  17:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, ROYALBROIL and GONZO_FAN, I am a former Packers Cheerleader and wonder how I can help with this project. sideliner84@gmail.com --Sideliner84 (talk) 04:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I came here to suggest the same thing! Royal broil  17:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What should we name the article? Royal broil  01:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Green Bay Packers cheerleaders? Sounds good enough for me.   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  02:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Very good - it's concise. Might anyone every want to use this as a singular so that it should be Green Bay Packers cheerleader? I don't see how the Hornung HOF page cites why the cheerleading team was called the "Golden Girls", it just says that he was the "Golden Boy". Royal broil  02:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, totally read the citation template and sentence wrong, I reverted the changes. I proposed Green Bay Packers cheerleaders based on Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  02:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

(←)Oh and I am going to hit my school's library tomorrow, and the county library on friday, so hopefully I can find some good info. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs)  02:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, the Dallas Cowbabes are a good precedent (besides being good to look at even though they consistently cheer for the wrong team). I don't think that I have any more information. Too bad that the information in the deadlinks aren't available anymore. I checked the Internet Archive (archive.org) too. I added them to the List of NFL cheerleaders article back in September 2007. I dont' plan to go to the library, so hopefully you'll find something. Royal broil  03:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I lied. Ok, I changed my mind. I stopped at 2 small city libraries since I drove past them yesterday. Neither had any books that would work as a reference on the topic. Lots of Packer statistics and biographies, but no cheerleaders. Royal broil  12:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I expanded the article a bit, although I wasnt able to find any other sources from the library. If you want to go through and give it a copyedit and finish/remove the notes you placed, I think we can start writing a good hook for the DYK.  Let me know what you think.   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  09:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

(←)I'm not willing to suggest the article for DYK with large gaps like that. Either we should wait until we find sources to flesh out a few sentences about the 1970s Packerettes and the Sideliners, or we move it to mainspace and forget about DYK. I vote we move it to mainspace. Too bad those references are inaccessible! Royal broil 13:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I moved it. Feel free to make any changes you feel would help the article.   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  05:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Green Bay Packers cheerleaders.  « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  05:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks good! Royal broil  05:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and I forgot to thank you for the Flickr tip. I dont know if you noticed but I uploaded a bunch of those Packers players photos, and it led me to find the cheerleading pic!  So thanks again!   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  05:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, ROYALBROIL and GONZO_FAN, I am a former Packers Cheerleader and wonder how I can help with this project. sideliner84@gmail.com --Sideliner84 (talk) 04:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Something of interest...
Perhaps you could use this for something, fit it into an article, or add it to a newsletter. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 21:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hahahaha, wow and I thought I was a Favre fan!! That's quite a story...  « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs) @   22:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

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2007 Packers pics on flickr
I wasn't looking but found some Packers pictures at flickr that are licensed CC ShareAlike Attribution. There's lots of opportunities to pick off pictures of players.  Royal broil  13:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot RB!! I will get to work on them when I have some time!!   « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs) @   17:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I have a friend who attends training camps in Green Bay and takes a TON of photos while he's there. He posts them on his account at photobucket and since he owns them, I'm sure any of the authors for ANY of the Green Bay Packers articles on players or the team could contact him and request permission to use any of the photos. He's quite nice that way. He sent me a complete set last year. For permission to use his Packers photos here, contact >> GIMPYBUTT on the scout.com PackerReport forum.<< (Click for linky.) Site registration is required, due to trolls, but it's free and very simple access. Once on the site, simply PM Gimpybutt. He's a moderator there. (Edited to insert my signature, which I apparently forgot to do when I posted the preceding. I'm not responsible for the following comment>>) IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 19:41, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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J. Lawrence
I just noticed in passing the existence two articles, Jimmy Lawrence (American football) and Jim Lawrence (American football), which might be about the same Packers player; there's a large, but not quite exact, overlap in biographical details. Anybody want to take a shot at figuring out if they are the same person, and if so which of the details the disagree over are correct? —Paul A (talk) 06:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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SS Mariposa sails from LA to Honolulu on Dec 25, 1932 with several Green Bay Packer football players
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Blake Martinez
I have begun expanding Blake Martinez to get it up to DYK status. When I get off work I will finish his junior year and Senior sections, add his draft scouting section as well as some miscellaneus information. If someone has the time and would mind copy editing, peer reviewing and just keeping an eye on it it would be appreciated. Im still trying to get back in to the swing of things.-- Church  Talk 20:50, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I have added it to my watchlist and will review/copyedit it this weekend! Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  21:19, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I did a copyedit and expansion and Lizard the Wizard did a few edits. Please feel free to edit or expand my additions as you see fit. Nice work on the article, keep on going! :) « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  04:27, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nicely done guys! We're not at 5x expansion and not even done. I'm going to begin work on finishing his college career now.-- Church  Talk 15:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think we're about ready to go, would you all mind giving it one more look over? I'll transclude it tonight.-- Church  Talk 16:20, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good and nice work guys! Go for it!  « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  18:38, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's up and awaiting review. Thank all of you for your help. It's a lot more fun doing this with multiple people. -- Church  Talk 06:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles Nominated for Deletion
See Articles for deletion/List of Green Bay Packers retired numbers for a deletion discussion of a article related to the Packers WikiProject. « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @  17:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Titletown District
I (finally) started a new article on the Titletown District next to Lambeau Field. Any assistance or images would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @  15:00, 22 June 2018 (UTC)