Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/January 2017

Bad link
Happy New Year, everybody! The 'Current Drive' tab, currently links to that of the November 2016 activity and thus, this month's Drive cannot be accessed through it. – BroVic (talk) 14:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Good catch! It looks like Jonesey95 has fixed it. Thanks, Jonesey. And happy New Year and happy copy editing everyone! Tdslk (talk) 17:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Pakistan Armed Forces
Pakistan Armed Forces had its copy edit template removed Jan 2 by an editor citing "I can't see any grammar problems". There are problems right in the lead, though, so I'm going to go ahead and copy edit this as an old article (it had been listed from Dec 2015). Reidgreg (talk) 15:42, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Works for me. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Reidgreg (talk) 04:08, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

John Skelton
John Skelton has been edited by me and comments left on the talk page. I'm new and learning Wiki standards and use of the tool. This is my first backlog elimination drive. I would like someone to review my work. In order to update citations, an expert may be needed to determine appropriate source materials. Curdigirl (talk) 22:42, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You have improved the article quite a bit. I think you may have strayed a bit when working on formatting the (confusing) titles of poems and larger works. It would take me some time to sort it out, since it's pretty confusing and you might have to refer to original sources, but take a look at Manual of Style/Titles, which explains when to use quotation marks and when to use italics. Feel free to post again here when you have it sorted out, and I'll take a closer look. Nice work! (Make sure to remove the copyedit template and record your efforts on the drive page; if you need help with that, I can show you how to do it.)– Jonesey95 (talk) 22:59, 8 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks, for the suggestion and feeback! I'll revisit the article and yes, I was struggling with the poems and larger works formatting.Curdigirl (talk) 08:06, 16 January 2017 (UTC)Curdigirl


 * Hi Jonesey95, I think I figured out what I did here. Lots of MOS links later, as I'm reading through to fix, I found a reference online to The Encyclopaedia Britannica: A Dictionary of Arts, Sciences, Literature and General Information, Volume 25, eleventh edition.

https://books.google.com/books?id=ITsbAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=skelton&f=false

This book has an entry for John Skelton. Unfortunately, it looks like someone directly copy pasted, word for word, much of that entry into this article. it looks like the whole lead section, the poet laureate section, his works are largely copied from that source. It looks like based on WP:COPYPASTE any such text needs to be speedily deleted.

Let me know if you'd recommend another course of action. Curdigirl (talk) 04:28, 21 January 2017 (UTC)Curdigirl
 * That edition of the EB was published in 1911 and is hence in the public domain. See the note under References. No problem there. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:04, 21 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok great news! Then I'll fix those formatting issues and wrap it up. Didn't want to focus on formatting if the content needed to go. Thanks, Jonesey95!

Curdigirl (talk) 09:25, 21 January 2017 (UTC)Curdigirl


 * Hi User:Jonesey95, I took another run at John Skelton, fixing some title formatting, and adding some in-line citations. There are a couple of statements I haven't been able to verify yet - they don't appear to be from that public domain source we noted. Let me know what you think.  Should we keep looking or remove/rephrase those statements?  Also, it looks like a number of red links have appeared to various names in the article...I didn't add those, perhaps another editor did?  Curdigirl (talk) 06:21, 25 January 2017 (UTC)Curdigirl
 * Nice work. It looks like the red links have been there for a while; I see them in versions from 2013. As for the statements you can't verify, you can either try to research them or add a few citation needed tags where claims seem like they might be dubious or controversial. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Help
I'm a little confused as to what to do with the word count script. I've tried adding my progress, but I am unsure as to what I am actually doing with the template at the bottom of the main page for the backlog elimination drive. Thanks in advance should anyone wish to help. Patient Zerotalk 14:59, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I have added the article you edited to your section. Here's how to do it, step by step:
 * Copy and paste the article name between the square brackets in the "Completed" line in your section on the drive page. (You did this successfully and then reverted yourself.)
 * Visit the version of the article in question before you started editing.
 * Use the Page Size script (of you have installed it) or any other method (copy and paste to a word processor or text editor, for example) to count the number of words in the portion of the article that you edited. Manually type that number into parentheses after the link to the article in your section of the drive page.
 * Increment your total article count by one, and manually enter your total words edited so far.
 * When you do another article, repeat the process by copying and pasting the first "Completed" line and replacing the article name and the word count with those from the new article.
 * Does that help? – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:25, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for taking the time to write that. Sometimes I just need instructions broken down like that in order to make sense of things, so that was of great help. Once again, thank you. :-) Patient Zerotalk 20:00, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Incompressibility method article needs attention
A mathematically abstruse article, Incompressibility method, is on the January 2016 backlog, but it looks OK to me. However, I haven't read it thoroughly, not being acquainted with the mathematics. There has been a number of spelling, and other, corrections made since the copy-edit tag was added, which might have addressed all outstanding issues. But someone familiar with the mathematics might take a look at it. Dhtwiki (talk) 12:19, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Since it was the last article on the monthly backlog I took it, but it's deep water indeed; the word-count script wouldn't work because of the embedded math, and I had to copypaste the whole thing into Word to get its word count. I'm adding wikilinks and trying to ensure that it reads intelligibly, but it's heavy sledding. All the best,  Mini  apolis  21:00, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Let me know when you're done with it, and I'll have a go at it as well. I've had it open on a browser tab for the last few days, and I did a little basic cleanup, but I haven't engaged with the prose yet. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

cleanup translation
The article Bromance (2015 TV series) had been tagged for copyedit, specifically noting "compliance with the guideline on writing Chinese names". User:Xevus11 and I worked on the article for general copyedit, but the Chinese names are beyond me (and I feel beyond copyedit expectations). I replaced the copyedit tag with and listed the article at Pages needing translation into English, where hopefully it will receive appropriate attention. If anyone here can tackle the Chinese names, though, by all means go for it.

P.S.: at this rate, it looks like we've got a good chance of clearing all three months! - Reidgreg (talk) 16:32, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Good move. Thanks and all the best,  Mini  apolis  23:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

GOCE backlog now shorter than a year!
Now that Miniapolis has taken the final January article to copy edit, the official backlog is now shorter than a year's worth of articles. Congratulations to all involved, and advanced congratulations to breaking the eleven-month barrier when the four remaining February articles are given GOCE attention. You may need to throw March 2016 into the mix, given how many days are left in the current drive... BlueMoonset (talk) 21:13, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hooray for us! Go team! – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:33, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * And yes, the March 2016 backlog is now open for extra credit (pinch me, I'm dreaming :-)). All the best,  Mini  apolis  23:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Darn! Now I have to defend my leaderboard position!  (Until March was added, there weren't enough old articles left for anyone to catch me in that category.)  I saw it coming, though.  Wouldn't be fun if I could coast to the end of the month. I just need to finish a long multiple-issues article from Feb.  – Reidgreg (talk) 17:17, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

leaderboard counts
Just to be clear, a 16,000-word old article counts as 3 for 5k articles, but only as 1 for old articles and 1 for total articles. Right? – Reidgreg (talk) 00:32, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep. Tdslk (talk) 01:04, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Last call
The January copy editing drive has ended. Please make any final edits to your article lists and the leaderboard (it is not updated automatically) in the next 24 hours or so. It is OK to edit your section of the page, and the leaderboard, even though the page is archived.

Barnstars will be distributed in the next few days. Thanks to everyone who participated. We eliminated the three(!) oldest months and almost got rid of a fourth! We ended the month with our second-lowest total backlog count ever, even with about 400 newly tagged articles being added in January. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:37, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Draft drive totals
Drive participants: For some reason, maybe the phase of the moon, maybe something in the water, editors edited a TON of articles this month but were not 100% successful at following the instructions on how to record your edits. I had to do a TON of cleanup on the article lists in order to get my barnstar script to work, and there were a few places where I had to make some judgement calls.

Can you please check your individual totals at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/January 2017/Barnstars and compare them to what you think that you recorded on the drive page? Please post any questions/errors/comments/criticisms here, and I'll follow up. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:48, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, Jonesey; I'll wait a day or so before giving out the barnstars (and hope I wasn't part of the problem :-)). All the best,  Mini  apolis  00:16, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Not naming any names.... – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:53, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * So it was me :-). All the best,  Mini  apolis  15:20, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably had trouble with mine (it's suspiciously at the bottom of the list). I had trouble adding them up, too.  Totals look right. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:07, 2 February 2017 (UTC)