Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/May 2024

I'm a first timer
can some one review Vision+ and tell me if i did a good job or not CosXZ (talk) 00:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Thanks for your help, welcome to the Guild and all the best,  Mini  apolis  13:18, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Miniapolis, I am also a first timer. Would you be able to review this article as well: Radha Mohan Das Agarwal It will be appreciated. Thanks Techy.Sap (talk) 09:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help, and welcome to the Guild. You've made improvements, but see WP:CE and WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to; copyediting (in this article, removing "Dr." and using or removing "the") is something you learn by doing. Since you're done with the copyedit, please remove the copy edit tag from the top of the page. Have fun and all the best,  Mini  apolis  13:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your support and quick response. Techy.Sap (talk) 11:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Prosesize not working on Alejandro Agag
Prosesize doesn't appear to be working for me. I've also tried it on other articles. It highlights the text, but doesn't display the word count. —asparagusus  (interaction)  sprouts!  15:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


 * It works now. —asparagusus   (interaction)  sprouts!  20:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Another first timer
Would welcome any feedback on Papercut (Linkin Park song). Jonathan Deamer (talk) 17:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks good, and thanks for your help. All the best,  Mini  apolis  18:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

also a first timer
Any feedback on Economic corridor? The article has plenty of non-copy-edit issues and I'm not sure if I've done too much, or if there's an element I'm missing, or what Malvoliox (talk) 21:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Looks pretty good overall! I did a bit of additional cleanup (see WP:OVERLINK). Welcome to the drive, and thanks for your help! Note: see MOS:ENGVAR. In general, we don't change national (British/American) spelling variations without reason. Wracking  talk! 21:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * thanks a ton! Makes sense. The overlinking definitely needed some help. Malvoliox (talk) 21:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

'Total Words' added or long?
This is my first drive I have been apart of, and I was wondering if each user's tally of 'Total Words' refers to the total prose added to each article, or the total prose of the articles that were coedited.

Also, is the May Drive page self-updating, or does the user have to continuously report their progress? Thanks!

GGOTCC (talk) 04:49, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Good questions,, and thanks for joining us! We're glad you're here.
 * "Total words" refers to the total number of words copy edited (fully reviewed and edited). Usually, that means the full article, which you can measure using Prosesize. Sometimes, we just edit part of an article (usually a section that has been tagged). In that case, you can paste the original section into a word counter (you can use a word processor, or a website like I do), and use that as your total.
 * I took a quick look at your edits in particular, so here is some more specific advice. For M.V. Ramana Murthy, you copy edited the entire article. The version before you began editing had a word count of 412 according to Prosesize. That is the number that should be in parentheses after that article's title. The numbers in parentheses after completed articles should sum to the number listed as.
 * I also made some additional copy edits to the article, mostly related to formatting. We try to use prose instead of lists, and try to avoid resume-like construction of articles.
 * No, the May drive page is not self-updating. Drive participants are generally responsible for updating their own progress:
 * In your section, add copy-edited articles, word counts, and (if applicable) special status such as Old article or Request
 * In your section, sum the total articles and total words. You can use simple expressions, if you'd like.
 * If you would like, update the Leaderboard with your progress as appropriate. Due to the nature of the leaderboard, this only applies to some editors. All participating editors are awarded with barnstars associated with their total words copy edited.
 * For more information, you can also check out WP:GOCE/DRIVE, which lists more detailed instructions. Please don't hesitate to reach out with any other questions. Welcome to the Guild! Wracking  talk! 05:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I see. Thank you very much for the help, I really appreciate it! Happy copyediting! GGOTCC (talk) 14:19, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Taking someone else's
What happens when I accidentally put someone else's article into my totals because they did not remove the tag beforehand and did not work on the article for a week? Do they get half-credit, or does it count towards just my totals? Mox Eden (talk) 11:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Depends on how much they've done (if anything), I guess. To avoid situations like this, I check its history before "claiming" an article. You can also ping the other editor on their talk page and work out who deserves what credit. All the best,  Mini  apolis  15:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Yet Another First Timer
Hi! Can someone check Al-Farabi Kazakh National University? With hindsight, I probably should've started with a shorter article. Thanks :D. GoldRomean (talk) 14:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks good, and thanks for your help. I changed the article rating from stub- to start-class. All the best,  Mini  apolis  15:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

First/second timer requesting help on an article with heavy WP:COI concerns
Hi there! Relative newcomer here — it's my first GOCE Drive, but I helped out with last month's Blitz — and I'm enjoying being a part of this community so far! I am requesting help on a issue separate from copy editing: I copy-edited John Tillmann, and I think it's mostly fine from a CE perspective now (feel free to check), but in so doing I noticed some suspicious edit histories. Turns out, given available evidence (here's my quick writeup, see last section), I'm >90% confident that the majority of the article was written either by the subject (a neo-Nazi art thief and alleged serial abuser) or by someone close enough to him to cause WP:COI concerns. What are the proper next steps to take? Although most of the article's information seems to be vaguely verifiable(?), some of it is self-praising in a peacock-y way, and at least parts of it cite sources that simply don't back up its claims. What's proper protocol here? Thanks in advance. SunTunnels (talk) 14:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The page can be tagged. Thanks for your help and all the best,  Mini  apolis  20:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Inflated word count
Hi all. I was a little puzzled when I saw myself listed on the leaderboard. In this edit to the drive page a one sentence copyedit I made for (diff) and had assessed at 16 words was inflated to the full prosecount of the article, over 10k words. I've changed it back and taken myself off of the leaderboard but thought I should mention it. – Reidgreg (talk) 06:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting us know, ; I left a note on their talk page. All the best,  Mini  apolis  13:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry @Reidgreg Cos  (X + Z) 21:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Question about tag changes (just curious)
Hi all, just a quick question out of sheer curiosity: it seems like over the past week or two there's been significant changes (both upwards and downwards) to the number of outstanding copy-edit-needed tags. I am wondering: what's going on there? It looks like it's related to changes in the number of May 2024 tags, but who decides if there's been overtagging of articles, etc., and how? Thanks in advance. SunTunnels (talk) 08:43, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * New pages patrol is also having a backlog-reduction drive this month, and this is what happens . All the best,  Mini  apolis  13:27, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * And as for who decides if there's been overtagging—for May, that's been me. (For other months, you may see that other GOCE coordinators have done so.)
 * When I have removed copy edit as I deemed it inappropriate, I have written "not needed". See those edits here. In other cases, I remove copy edit in favor of cleanup or another more appropriate tag, or I just copy edit on the spot, resolving the tag myself. If anyone disagrees with my edits, I of course invite reverts. Wracking  talk! 19:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * (Quick correction as I seek and struggle to understand the endless passing of time: I'm actually working on April right now... the other parts, and especially Minapolis's point about the NPP drive, hold true ) Wracking  talk! 20:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Miniapolis @Wracking Cool, many thanks for letting me know; I’ll have to check out those processes in more detail in the future. 👍 SunTunnels (talk) 00:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Meaningless milestone
Thought I would share: by my reckoning, I have just reached one thousand copyedits on blitzes+drives. Another for my brag list. I was a much more active with the Guild in the first four years of my volunteer career, but this remains one of my favourite places on the wiki. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, ! Always good to see you here. Have fun and all the best,  Mini  apolis  23:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Thank you for being such a dedicated member of the Guild. Wracking  talk! 04:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's always good to see that you're still around. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Word count
Hi. How do I get the total number of words copy edited. Perhaps, I had calculated the number of words per prose wen I started, what more when I ended. The WP:GOCE/DRIVE just gave how to add the article copy edited and where. It didn't give what happens, are you subtracting the end fr the first or ? Please break it down (you can also help me in the leaderboard). Thanks. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 04:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi : To calculate your word count, you can use WP:PROSESIZE on the edition of the article just before you started copy editing it. For a more detailed explanation, see my comment above. Please let us know if you have any more questions! Wracking  talk! 04:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Wracking, I read that before asking this question. For example, I have completed one article and I have added it to the "total article". Now, what becomes the total word copyedited, or are there editors who update that? Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 04:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * You also sum your total articles and words—see point #2 of my comment. I like to use  to add up the word total, but you can also use an external calculator (or do it by hand?) . Hope this answers your questions!  Wracking  talk! 04:55, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * To double clarify: your total words would be 657, and you can update this if you copy edit more articles. Wracking  talk! 05:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Silly question re: word totals
On the general instruction page it says not to include the bonuses for *R or *O articles when we write their word counts. We don't add the bonuses to the total either, right?  ~Malvoliox  (talk &#124; contribs) 01:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Correct, you shouldn't implement bonuses anywhere. Not a silly question, either Glad you joined us for the drive!  Wracking  talk! 01:35, 1 June 2024 (UTC)