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Request for Expert Contributions
Dear Authors,

I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to invite your expertise and collaboration in improving the quality and accuracy of the Wikipedia article draft on Don Bosco College, Panjim. As experts and contributors in this field, your insights and contributions would be invaluable in ensuring that the information presented is comprehensive, accurate, and up-to-date.

The current draft can be found here: Draft:Don Bosco College, Panjim

We are particularly looking for improvements in the following areas:
 * 1) History: Detailed historical background and significant milestones.
 * 2) Academic Programs: Comprehensive list and descriptions of academic programs offered.
 * 3) Notable Alumni: Information on notable alumni and their achievements.
 * 4) References: Addition of reliable sources to improve the article's credibility.
 * 5) Notability: Information and sources that demonstrate the college's significance and impact.

Improving the notability of the draft is crucial for its acceptance as a full Wikipedia article. Notability can be established through reliable secondary sources such as news articles, academic papers, and books that discuss the college in detail.

Contributing to Wikipedia is a collaborative and transparent process. You can make edits directly to the draft, or if you prefer, share your suggestions and sources here, and we can incorporate them accordingly. Your contributions will be properly cited, ensuring that your work is recognized.

Thank you for considering this request. Your participation would greatly enrich the Wikipedia community and help disseminate reliable information to a global audience.

Best regards,

Xcus

If you have any questions or need assistance with editing, please do not hesitate to reach out.

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Help Formating
On the page List of universities in Ecuador I can't get the images to stay to the right and the table to the left in order to mimic the page in [spanish] --HarveyPrototype (talk) 05:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:VPT may be a better venue to get technical help. For what it's worth, the Spanish version looks pretty miserable on my current computer - the images are all stacked at the top of the article and then the table is below it. ElKevbo (talk) 21:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input, it seems that when tab isn't occupying the full screen that's what it looks like.
 * I was editing with two screens side by side and that made it look terrible. HarveyPrototype (talk) 03:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Doctor of Philosophy#Requested move 24 May 2024
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Doctor of Philosophy that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Robminchin (talk) 03:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

When should an institution that is closing be added to the proper disestablishment category?
There seems to be disagreement among editors about when an institution that is in the process of being closing should be added to the appropriate disestablishment category. Here are two recent examples:


 * On May 23, the Delaware College of Art and Design announced that this year's graduating class was its last graduating class and that the institution would begin closing immediately. The following day, RevelationDirect added the article to Category:Educational institutions disestablished in 2024. Wizzito objected and reverted that edit and there has been some subsequent back-and-forth in the article's edit history.


 * On April 29, Wells College announced that it would close at the end of the spring semester. On May 26 - today - DASonnenfeld added the article to Category:2024 disestablishments in New York (state). I subsequently objected and removed the article from that category.

All of these editors are editing in good faith. No one disputes that these institutions are in the process of closing. There is, however, disagreement about when it's appropriate to place these articles, and presumably others in similar situations, into the appropriate disestablishment category. So I think that is the question on the table: When is it appropriate to place an article about a college or university that is closing into the appropriate disestablishment category?

Personally, I don't think it's appropriate to do this until the institution has actually closed. Even after the last class has been taught and the last class has graduated, there is still significant work that usually takes months - ensuring that teach out plans are carried out, transitioning institutional records to the party who will be responsible for maintaining them, closing out financial records, etc. During that time, the institution still exists as a corporate entity even though it does so in a very different state than it did when it was a fully functioning educational institution. So I don't think it's correct to say that it's been completely disestablished at that point.

Other editors who have been directly involved in these edits should have received an automatic notice since I linked to their user account above and I welcome their perspectives and recommendations. And other editors are also invited to share their thoughts and advice. ElKevbo (talk) 15:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for posting this question. I guess the answer depends on whether one thinks of "disestablishment" as a done-deal or as a process. In the cases of Wells College and Goddard College -- two institutions that are in the process of closing in 2024, I would think that it would be value-added to readers to indicate that they were (being) disestablished. Why wait until the last door is closed, the last light turned off, the last bill paid? It might be years... Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 15:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * For me, it's natural to interpret these categories as being about institutions that have been disestablished, not institutions that have been or are in the process of being disestablished. But I don't ever work with categories, much less these specific categories. Is there any established practice for their usage or any relevant documentation or history in how they are used? ElKevbo (talk) 16:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Not that I'm aware of with disestablishment categories. We do have clear precedent with the opposite though: categorizing things that will start happening in the future, like Category:2028 Summer Olympics. Of course this assumes the "almost certain to take place" exception is met in WP:CRYSTALBALL. But even that's not full proof: the 2020 Olympics ended up being held in 2021. RevelationDirect (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I would favor adding categories as soon as there are reliable sources that a end of classes is planned by a certain date and concrete steps are being taken (like a teach-out plan).
 * The WP:CRYSTALBALL section of the content policy wants to avoid speculation but has a pretty clear exception: "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place".
 * In general, categories need to be WP:DEFINING and I can hardly think of anything more defining than a school closing next month! And the point of categories in general is to aid reader navigation and it seems likely that someone looking at the Wells College article might wonder what other colleges are closing this year.
 * Thanks for opening this discussion. I look forward to other viewpoints. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that I added a neutral notice over at Wikipedia talk:Categorization to encourage more viewpoints. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Pinging you to make sure you see this discussion. ElKevbo (talk) 03:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is a great discussion and I'm glad we are having it. I usually tend to try and copy-edit condense sometimes add to colleges that are closing and I know there is lots of back and forth on this. My two cents: we should prioritize what regional accreditors and state department of educations say. You have some weird cases like King's College in NY, that still says they are open despite not having any students for over a year.
 * I think that when spring classes end, or when graduation happens is usually too early, but most of these places are ceasing instruction around June 30th of each closure year, just following these sort of closures the last 5 years or so. Just because there are accountants still doing 990s for another year or two doesn't in my book mean the college is still open. For some of the weird cases like King's and ASA, we add a note or two and let time do what it will. Jjazz76 (talk) 08:21, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * A couple of further thoughts: (a) With disestablishments categorized by year, I would think that listing an institution as a "2024 disestablishment" could be done anytime (perhaps even in a prior year) that that disestablishment was formally announced. Why wait? (b) The term, "defunct", I relate to somewhat differently. With respect to educational institutions, for all intents and purposes, I would think of "defunct" as when there no longer were any matriculated students. So, for schools that were in the process of closing, "defunct" only after graduation, the end of all classes, etc. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 15:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that's actually a good point and a good idea. The time of the announcement does seem like a fine time to add the disestablishment tag, even if it is somewhat speculative. The reversal of closure announcements is pretty rare (Hampshire College, maybe one or two others.) It also helps remind us of which institutions are closing which is often news when the announcement is made and everyone just forget about it afterwards. Cleaning up the NY State College list a few months ago, there were at least half dozen colleges that had closed years before that were still on the list because everyone just forgot about them.
 * Using the tag in this way is also a useful way for us to monitor for those that jump the gun and put "this institution is closed" when it still has a semester and summer session left of classes.
 * I actually used the tag last night to double check the institutions that had already closed in 2024, but these were of the sudden closure variety where a college just closed up shop and shut the doors mid-semester. Jjazz76 (talk) 16:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Or where the spring semester ends earlier than other institutions like Oak Point University. wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  00:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry for late response, have been busy. I generally agree with ElKevbo's position that we don't add the categories until a stated closure date. But I recognize there are some institutions where the exact date is not said. wizzito  &#124;  say hello!  00:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think some feel a sense of urgency to report this type of event. But Wikipedia is not a newspaper or a crystal ball. Articles are supposed to reflect actual happenings, not projected outcomes. Same as with announcements of new chancellors--we don't update the Infobox until installation has taken place. It is fine to add text indicating the closure announcement and its source. However, the institution is not defunct until the date has passed and/or there is a source backing its actual closure. Wikipedia's policies are pretty clear on not forecasting outcomes. Rublamb (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * We agree on the defunct part. But we're both citing WP:CRYSTALBALL but landing on different sides of the conversation for adding the disestablishment date. The relevant passage to me was the exception when "the event is notable and almost certain to take place". Is your concern that some of these schools will find last-minute funding/students and not close after all? RevelationDirect (talk) 11:10, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * This ws a real issue at St Benet's Hall, Oxford where I reverted any statement of actual closure before October 2022, although closure was effectively inevitable from May 2022. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 12:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Well that actually happend with Sweet Briar College in Virginia, so yes. Rublamb (talk) 13:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

I recommend recat upon actual closing, and not upon announcement. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 13:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree with FieldMarine. Don't change the cat until the establishment is actually closed. Sure, mention the expected closing in the article, but until it closes, it shouldn't be in the disestablished cat (any more than we would add one that was expected to open in, say 2028, to the established in 2028 cat now). Meters (talk) 20:37, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Input requested at Talk:Higher_education_in_India
There is a content dispute discussed at that would benefit from wider input. 128.41.35.204 (talk) 11:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Third opinion requested
A third opinion is requested in a discussion between two editors at Talk: University of Cambridge. Robminchin (talk) 01:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Dartmouth College fraternities and sororities
Dartmouth College fraternities and sororities has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * This reassessment seems to have been closed. The article is deficient in many ways:
 * "there is no professional fraternities with active chapters"
 * "gender inclusive GLOs" -- does that mean that the others don't include genders?
 * paragraph beginning with "fraternities of Dartmouth College were directly involved in the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s" is completely unsourced
 * paragraph beginning with "Other national social changes affected Greek societies at Dartmouth in the 1960s" is supported only by a dead link
 * paragraph ending with "new location on West Street (where it is still in operation as of the 2013-14 academic year" is unsourced and the reference to 2013 shows that is is outdated --
 * Melchior2006 (talk) 06:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Melchior2006: I agree this article needs updating to regain its GA status. However, I don't see an issue with the term "gender inclusive" as is in the dictionary, meaning for any gender. The oppositve of gender inclusive fraternity would be a group that limits the gender of its members. This terminology has replaced the somewhat dated term "co-educational" for many organizations and campuses because it is considered to be inclusive of trans and nonbinary individuals. Of course, there could also be a link to gender inclusive in Wikipedia. Rublamb (talk) 22:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It looks like the major issue was that it's a list rather than an article, and thus not eligible for GA status under the WP:Good article criteria. I took a quick look when the notice was posted and this seemed irrefutable, even if other deficiencies were addressable. It should probably be looked at in terms of the WP:Featured list criteria rather than trying to regain GA status. Robminchin (talk) 22:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Robminchin: Just because an article includes a list does not make it a list article. It currently has more text than would be typical for a FL introduction, which probably pushes it to a regular article classification, along with the narrative format of the "list". I will see what my fellow WP:Lists editors think. I feel like the bigger issue was the flag for updates which has been lingering. Rublamb (talk) 22:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

How to handle tables of Greek Life Organizations (GLOs)
There is a discussion open at U of Pittsburgh article concerning unsourced or badly-sourced tables of GLOs and similar issues. It would be great if some guidelines could be established. So far, @Jax MN, @VQuakr, @ElKevbo, @Rublamb, and I have been involved in the talk. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 06:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Culinary Institute of America Criticism request
Hi editors, as part of my work for Beutler Ink, on behalf of The Culinary Institute of America, I've made a request regarding the article's Criticism section. I was hoping that editors here would be interested in joining the conversation. Please let me know if you have any thoughts. Cheers, BINK Robin (talk) 16:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Merger cleanup project
In passing, I noticed that Connecticut State Community College was created in 2023 by the merger of 12 institutions. According to its article, all twelve of the merged colleges have name changes. However, the 12 related articles were not updated to reflect the merger or name change. In addition, their logos/graphics are all for the old institutional names. If anyone has time to work on this, it would be appreciated. Rublamb (talk) 23:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Mary McLeod Bethune
Mary McLeod Bethune has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 04:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Feedback on Draft
Hi, can I receive some feedback/advice on this draft: Draft:Pak-Austria Fachhochschule: Institute of Applied Sciences and Technology and can I add "Academic Programs" from the official website? (Primary source)

Thank you. ExoField (talk) 11:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Disputed edits about Association of Independent Colleges and Universities of Pennsylvania (AICUP)
I disagree with and have reverted many of the edits made by PA4C101 that added a sentence about the Association of Independent Colleges and Universities of Pennsylvania (AICUP) to all articles for members of that organization, a few dozen articles total. I am opening this discussion here as it's a centralized location where we can more efficiently discussed these identical edits spanning many articles.

Simply put, I object to adding even a sentence about this organization to these articles as it's undue weight. Membership in this organization just is not meaningful, interesting, or impactful enough to warrant mentioning among the dozens or more organizations of which these colleges and universities are also members. ElKevbo (talk) 00:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Seems like fairly trivial info to me. Semper fi! FieldMarine (talk) 02:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Having had a quick look, I'm not even convinced that the organisation is WP:NOTABLE. Certainly doesn't look to be very meaningful and, on searching a (small) sample of websites of the member institutions, it seems that it is hardly mentioned. Robminchin (talk) 03:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This body is the sole representative for 85 colleges and 280,000 students, so of course it's relevant to include this information.
 * Please see peer organizations listed on dozens of college pages. Example: Pages that link to "Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in Massachusetts"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Association_of_Independent_Colleges_and_Universities_in_Massachusetts
 * ·        Massachusetts Institute of Technology ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Williams College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Amherst College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Boston University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Brandeis University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Tufts University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Mount Holyoke College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Hampshire College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Wellesley College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Babson College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Olin College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Boston College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Clark University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Worcester Polytechnic Institute ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Suffolk University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Northeastern University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Emerson College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        College of the Holy Cross ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        New England Conservatory of Music ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Merrimack College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Springfield College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Wentworth Institute of Technology ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Boston Baptist College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Wheelock College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Western New England University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Ralph Hexter ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Nichols College ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Gregory S. Prince Jr. ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Gregory H. Adamian ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Harvard University ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        Frederick M. Lawrence ‎ (links | edit)
 * ·        MGH Institute of Health Professions ‎ (links | edit) PA4C101 (talk) 13:36, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * That's it's a representative body is not actually an argument that it's particularly important in terms of the colleges concerned or even that it's notable. As noted above, the colleges themselves don't seem to think it particularly worth mentioning on their own webpages. Robminchin (talk) 13:55, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * But they do mention it on their own pages. That's the Massachusetts example, showing that two dozens colleges like Harvard and MIT mention their representative body on their page (Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in Massachusetts).
 * The only reason this does not show in Pennsylvania is because the Wikipedia editors continue to delete the page. In doing so, they are silencing 280,000 students, the largest body of college students in the state, larger than the state and state related school system, which are allowed to have Wiki pages.   PA4C101 (talk) 14:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia editors do not actually have the power to delete things from colleges' own webpages, that's the colleges failing to think AICUP is important enough to mention. The question at hand is simply whether this organisation is important enough, on its own merits, to mention in the articles of the members or whether, given that those same members seemingly don't care enough to make much of it on their own webpages, that would be WP:UNDUE. You need arguments other than WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, particularly where it is unclear that the 'other stuff' is actually equivalent, to justify inclusion. Robminchin (talk) 17:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No one is "silencing 280,000 students." It simply doesn't appear that the organization merits mention in articles because it hasn't played a large enough role to be included in those encyclopedia articles. It's not a slight - there are thousands of organizations and tens or hundreds of thousands of people who have been involved or are currently involved in those institutions but they also don't have enough independent sourcing to merit including in those encyclopedia articles.
 * Given the information that is currently available, I am skeptical that either of these articles would survive a deletion nomination. If you would like the article(s) to remain, I strongly encourage you to locate and add independent reliable sources that are focused on the organization in question.
 * (For the sake of transparency, please be aware that I have also removed the similar Massachusetts organization from the infoboxes of all of the articles listed above. The documentation for that template requires that academic affiliations "provide essential definition of the institution" and that organization does not rise to that level.) ElKevbo (talk) 21:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * And I've tagged Association of Independent Colleges and Universities in Massachusetts for lack of independent/in-depth sourcing sufficient to emonstrate notability. DMacks (talk) 00:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:European University of Madrid
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:European University of Madrid that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂  •  [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]   22:32, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Diermeier updates
Hi editors, I made a request on the Daniel Diermeier article Talk page that might be of interest to the folks here to add some content related to his time as chancellor of Vanderbilt University. I would greatly appreciate any feedback or assistance you can offer. I have a COI so I can't make these changes myself. Thank you in advance for any help you can offer. Cheers VandyBE (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

List of fictional British and Irish universities
Members of this WikiProject may be interested in the discussion at Articles for deletion/List of fictional British and Irish universities. Pam D  22:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Merge of inactive higher education wikiprojects
There are a large number of inactive or semi-active wikiprojects related to higher education, mostly on individual universities:


 * WikiProject Bangladeshi Universities
 * WikiProject Florida International University
 * WikiProject Georgia Tech
 * WikiProject MTSU
 * WikiProject Mizzou
 * WikiProject Polytechnic University of the Philippines
 * WikiProject University of California
 * WikiProject University of Pennsylvania
 * WikiProject University of Pittsburgh

Added to proposal 19/07/2024:
 * WikiProject Brigham Young University
 * WikiProject Cal Poly Pomona
 * WikiProject Florida State University
 * WikiProject Stanford University
 * WikiProject University of Belgrade
 * WikiProject University of Cambridge
 * WikiProject University of Central Florida
 * WikiProject University of Connecticut
 * WikiProject University of Florida
 * WikiProject University of Houston
 * WikiProject University of Southeastern Philippines
 * WikiProject University of Southern California
 * WikiProject University of the Philippines
 * WikiProject Virginia Tech

Removed from proposal 19/07/2024 (already operating under another project):
 * WikiProject Columbia University
 * WikiProject Cornell University
 * WikiProject Dartmouth College
 * WikiProject East Carolina University
 * WikiProject Notre Dame
 * WikiProject Ohio Wesleyan University
 * WikiProject Pennsylvania State University
 * WikiProject Rutgers
 * WikiProject State University of New York
 * WikiProject Texas A&M
 * WikiProject University of Massachusetts
 * WikiProject University of North Texas
 * WikiProject University of Texas at Austin
 * WikiProject University of Virginia
 * WikiProject Washington University in St. Louis
 * WikiProject West Virginia University

Removed from proposal 20/07/2024:
 * WikiProject Louisiana Tech
 * WikiProject Purdue
 * WikiProject University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
 * WikiProject North Carolina State University

I propose merging these projects into WikiProject Higher education in order to redirect interested editors to a more active group, stimulate collaboration on the broader topic, and reduce duplicate work in maintaining talk page banners etc. The process is quite straightforward and is outlined at WikiProject Council/Guide/Merging WikiProjects. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 18:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support Great idea! Go for it. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 19:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support all. Not sure if there was ever sufficient activity to warrant wikiprojects on topics as niche as an individual institution, but in 2024 there certainly is not.  Sdkb  talk 19:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support This seems like the best place for them. Robminchin (talk) 19:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support. Seems like the right place to address.  Comment that the list above is a bunch of individual US universities, and a broader (though still fairly narrow) project for Bangladeshi universities.  The latter is of a slightly different nature.  I think it's probably still reasonably well served by merging here. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 19:37, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment. How exactly would this proposed merge work? Some of these projects are already essentially task forces of their respective US state projects, for example, WikiProject State University of New York is already a subproject of WikiProject New York (state) and operates under the Template:WikiProject New York banner. Would that project continue to operate under WikiProject New York, or would everything be merged in here instead? On another note, is there any reason why none of the UK university projects (i.e. WikiProject University of Oxford, etc.) were included in this proposed merge? Ejgreen77 (talk) 10:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ejgreen77 The proposal lists 26 out of 44 individual university projects as inactive or semi-active. There are only 2 UK university projects, for Oxford and Cambridge, and they both show some recent activity on their talk pages. TSventon (talk) 11:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Exactly. I personally don't think it would be a bad idea to make them task forces of this project too, but merges of active wikiprojects are can be more contentious and so should be discussed separately. Also, I was working from WikiProject_Council/Directory/History_and_society which doesn't have Cambridge listed. Do I understand correctly that there are 18 other inactive university projects that I've missed? Can we add them here? –&#8239;Joe (talk) 11:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The details are at WikiProject Council/Guide/Merging WikiProjects but basically you merge/redirect the project pages here and replace all the banners with WikiProject Higher education.
 * I overlooked that WikiProject State University of New York was a already a subproject; it would make more sense to merge it to its parent then. I'll check the others and then update the list above. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 11:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

TSventon (talk) 12:29, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose for the following projects: WikiProject Columbia University, WikiProject Cornell University, WikiProject Dartmouth College, WikiProject East Carolina University, WikiProject University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, WikiProject North Carolina State University, WikiProject Notre Dame, WikiProject Ohio Wesleyan University, WikiProject Pennsylvania State University, WikiProject Rutgers, WikiProject State University of New York, WikiProject Texas A&M, WikiProject University of Massachusetts, WikiProject University of North Texas, WikiProject University of Texas at Austin, WikiProject University of Virginia, WikiProject Washington University in St. Louis, and WikiProject West Virginia University. All of those projects are subprojects and task forces of their respective US state based projects, and I don't believe that any further merging is desirable. I have no opinion as to any of the other projects listed in the above proposal other then the ones I have specifically named in this comment. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * , I looked at WikiProject Higher education I believe the missing projects are as below. Some may be active or merged.
 * WikiProject Brigham Young University
 * WikiProject Cal Poly Pomona
 * WikiProject California State University
 * WikiProject Florida State University
 * WikiProject Louisiana Tech
 * WikiProject Purdue
 * WikiProject Stanford University
 * WikiProject Texas Tech University
 * WikiProject University of Belgrade
 * WikiProject University of Cambridge
 * WikiProject University of Central Florida
 * WikiProject University of Connecticut
 * WikiProject University of Florida
 * WikiProject University of Houston
 * WikiProject University of Oklahoma
 * WikiProject University of Southeastern Philippines
 * WikiProject University of Southern California
 * WikiProject University of the Philippines
 * WikiProject Virginia Tech
 * Thanks, . I've removed the sixteen projects that are already operating as task force of another one, and added the sixteen additional inactive ones that aren't. Could you please check to see if this affects your !vote? –&#8239;Joe (talk) 12:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with the new list.  Sdkb  talk 12:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with the new list. There seemed some doubt over whether the Cambridge project was active or not so I checked it out – while there had been recent activity on the talk page, this has all been posting of notices or questions and the last time a post received a reply was 2016, so I'd call this inactive. In contrast, the Oxford project has had replies in 2024. Robminchin (talk) 14:21, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The new list looks fine, at least at a glance. I'll expand: For me, I think the essential thing is that we deprecate long-time moribund university-specific Wikiprojects, as possibly misleading without balancing upside.  I think that Wikiproject Higher Education is probably a better target than the state/region projects in general, although it is a more complicated project to get buy-in from region projects in cases where the university is already a subproject.  I also think that articles on universities should generally list both the higher ed wikiproject and also the state/region wikiproject.  Thus, it may be mostly moot what we redirect to, so long as both wikiprojects are listed on such articles (as I think they generally are). Russ Woodroofe (talk) 15:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose the amended proposal for the following projects: WikiProject Louisiana Tech and WikiProject Purdue. Both of those projects are subprojects and task forces of their respective US state based projects, and I don't believe that any further merging is desirable. Note that while WikiProject Purdue has its own talk page banner, it is also fully functional within Template:WikiProject United States with a |Purdue=yes option added into it. Template:WikiProject Purdue should be sent to TfD individually and replaced in all instances with Template:WikiProject United States |Purdue=yes. Continue to oppose for WikiProject University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and WikiProject North Carolina State University which were both in the original nomination and have not been stricken as of yet, for the same reasons. Ejgreen77 (talk) 00:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, removed those too. We probably need a separate discussion of what to do with all these dead pseudo-projects now. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 09:07, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Fundamentally, I don't think any individual university is ever going to be a big enough topic to warrant a task force. It'll have a few dozen pages at most, and the talk page of the university article will always be a better place to discuss the rare things that pertain to all of them than a project page.  Sdkb  talk 15:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:RADA
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:RADA that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 18:29, 20 July 2024 (UTC)