Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian music/Archive 1

Indian classical music related categories and categorisation
On review of various articles related to ragas in Carnatic music and Hindustani music, I find that lot of contributors have included the pages under different categories without consistency. I would like to suggest and discuss the following. If there is consensus on the same, changes can be made to improve the Indian music content in Wikipedia.


 * 1) Create a subcategory Category:Indian classical music terminology under Category:Musical terminology. If the name is too long, suggest a shorter name, please (possibly separate Category:Carnatic music terminology and Category:Hindustani music terminology ?).
 * 2) Change the category of terminology related Indian music pages (like Tala, Swara, Raga, Thaat, Sruthi, Melakarta, Janya, etc.) currently from Category:Musical terminology to above suggested category.
 * 3) Raga pages to not include new Indian Music terminology category, but go under either Category:Ragas or Category:Carnatic Ragas category (both for Carnatic ragams?).
 * 4) Raga pages to not include Category:Modes? Modes already has link to Thaat and Raga pages. I do not think it is appropriate to list something like 400 Ragas under Modes category.
 * 5) Minor terms in music can be clubbed into 1 page each for Hindustani and Carnatic music (i.e., those that are not as important as Swara, Sruthi, Janya, etc., to warrant a separate page). For example, a Glossary like page giving 2 - 3 lines of description of terms like Vakra, Bhashanga, Upanga, Owdava, etc. Possibly include all terms, even if some of them have a separate page - with the link to them too (Main page: Vakra, for example).
 * 6) Probably have a guideline of which type of pages to have which categories. Example, terminology page like Swara page to have Indian classical music, Indian music terminology, Carnatic music, Hindustani music categories. Another example, Carnatic ragam pages (like Bhairavi (ragam) page) to have Carnatic music, Carnatic Ragas and Ragas categories.
 * 7) Only selected pages, like Raga, Thaat to be included in Modes category.

Does this talk need to go to Hindustani music talk page and Carnatic music talk page as well, so that there can be more discussion?

VasuVR (talk) 12:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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1st Hello to all. I am new here (since today on the list as a fellow for ICM). So great, to know this working group. Andhopefully it expands by time. - One aspect I may menthion and suggest here for optimizing the working process: It would be a help, if the "to-do-list" do NOT link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Opentask. I think it's better we have a specific list focussing onto articles, which have to be maintained, correlating with Indian music. I am not a technic freak here at WP... so I ask: Would this be possible? Can someone programme something. Or maybe already exist a template for? --ElJay Arem (talk) 22:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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Sharan Rani Backliwal
Since the activity seems low on this workgroup, I'm not sure who's watching, but I'll give it a shot. An editor recently created an article about Sharan Rani Backliwal. The original version included material copied from various web obituaries, which got it tagged for speedy deletion as copyright infringement, which is how I came across it. However, it seemed to me that there was useable material in the article and she is obviously notable, so I declined the speedy deletion and am attempting to rewrite the article. Unfortunately, I'm hampered by the simple fact that I know virtually nothing about Indian music -- I'm just the random admin who happened to review this article for deletion. If there is anyone reading this who could help out with updating the article, it would be greatly appreciated. --RL0919 (talk) 03:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

List of Asha & Lata's songs
please refer to the discussions at Talk:Lata Mangeshkar. Please give your views there. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

For start, we have begun with Lata's songs. So now you can help here.... User:Animeshkulkarni/List of songs by Lata Mangeshkar. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 12:17, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality of List
Found one strange page here at Bollywood songs. It lists 10 (!!!) songs as Popular songs of the 20th century. I dont know who & how & why it happened. Somehow this page skipped the notion called NPOV. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 11:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


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Classical Music Information
I just found that a number of articles related to classical indian music (including Natya Shastra, Hindustani classical music and Indian classical music) are missing a possibly critical piece of information. The information is along the following lines (per http://bharataschoolofarts.com/Dance%20History.html ):

Classical Indian music (the shastriya sangeet) was divided into two types, deshi (देशी) and maargi (मार्गी). The former was the common form while the latter was a form used for devoutional singing.

I may be off the mark in details, but the gist should be the same. Since I have no knowledge whatsoever about classical music, I hope someone with more knowledge of the subject can fix this. For help, see:

Regards--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 06:15, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

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AfC submission - 30/06
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Former good article vandalised: Kishore Kumar
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Jagannathbuwa Purohit and Vasant Prabhu
I'd be grateful if anyone could look over these articles. They've been tagged for notability for over 7 years and are currently at AfD. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 10:48, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hello there
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Jasraj
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Updates to Manodharma article
Hi all - I'm a grad student assigned to edit Wikipedia articles for my coursework. I chose Manodharma (rates as low importance in the work-group I beleive) since I have a keen interest in Carnatic music. I've made edits to the page here. I have only added and expanded on the content and added references. If anyone wants to talk about an edit, please find my talk page and I'm happy to have a dialgoue. Thank you! KamanaMS (talk) 04:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Place of birth of Amir Khan
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Requested move at Talk:Ghibran
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