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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Possible expansion of scope?
One of the more annoying things I have found in going through the Lindsay Jones Encyclopedia of Religion to assemble a list of PD sources cited in the various article bibliographies there is the rather annoying number of foreign-language sources included in some of the article bibliographies which do not have English translations indicated, indicating at least to me that those sources may never have been translated into English. If that is so, then it might be very useful to maybe include translation of foreign PD sources which could be perhaps added to one of the sister WMF entities and then perhaps have those translations used in developing the related content here. John Carter (talk) 17:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it's a good idea, but the problem is getting people actively working with it.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:52, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I will, ultimately, try to get the page at WikiProject Religion/Library a bit more complete in its listing of the PD sources included in the bibliography of that reference work. But it does seem to me that for at least some of the various indigenous religious traditions, like one in northern Russia whose name I can't remember right now, it may well be that most if not all of the available sources are in foreign languages, other than a few encyclopedia articles. John Carter (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * This sounds like the sort of thing (not just in religion, but other fields as well) that might make for an interesting academic project to suggest...surely there are some schools/classes that would enjoy tackling a project like this? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:49, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Going through the bibliographies of default reference works, like the Eliade/Jones Encyclopedia of Religion, unfortunately is maybe one of the most dreary things imaginable. Finding classes who would like to translate works would be a huge boon to us, and I would love to maybe get a few more people involved in the education project doing translations, particularly of the works which are cited most frequently. And some of them are cited rather frequently. Once the basic list is assembled, I'm going to do a separate ranking of the most frequently mentioned ones, and add them to commons and wikisource if they're English. And then I'll let the education noticeboard know about it too. I'd love to see some interest there, but, even without it, if we have someone who can even just read them, we'll maybe have quite a few more articles included in the standard reference sources that we don't yet have today. John Carter (talk) 15:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Least developed nations
On a related note, you've done a fair bit of starting off country wikiprojects and tagging articles, I wondered if you could somehow do a quick scan and tell me which countries have the least articles on them, and the least articles on buildings and structures?♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:36, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you mean counties or territories? And the basic question of whether buildings and structures are notable would also have to be addressed. I am not at all sure, for instance, how many really notable buildings there are in the Falkland Islands, and maybe a bit more sure about how many there are in South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, which is probably few if any. I tend to think Niue and Western Sahara are probably among the least developed content, and from what I remember of a few years ago the Central Asian countries at that time tended to be rather weakly covered. And I have a feeling that some subnational entities, like Idaho and Wyoming, probably have comparatively weak coverage as well, although that is just a guess.
 * It might certainly be possible to request the development of a bot which could generate a central list of the number of real articles, not counting categories, redirects, and the like, tagged by individual WikiProjects. But it would probably need to have some sort of defined parameters of which WikiProjects to include and not include in the final list. John Carter (talk) 15:52, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Speaking of the subnational entities - I know from working over at WP:NRHP that South Dakota is pretty poorly covered in a lot of respects. And I seem to recall feeling that way about North Dakota, too. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:02, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Any. Ser, didn't we once have a list on countries and building and structure stubs and what needed the most?♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be possible to try to develop a few pages for WP:MEA based on the more recent or most exhaustive reference works on specific areas, or, at least, the best sources which might be available to some of us anyway. There won't likely be individual ones on individual US states in many cases, but I think that there are at least regional reference sources on them. And I think that for most of them there will also be a few historical sources available at archive.org which could at least provide some basic information. John Carter (talk) 16:42, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Stub Focus of the Week
Started here. might be interested in creating some stubs on Paraguayan women towards this.♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:41, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll try to help out a bit with the Paraguayans which is more in line with the translation emphasis on the project. I hope we can aim for at least start class rather than just stubs. Might take quite a while to cover 20 new topics in any detail.--Ipigott (talk) 15:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * The idea is raw article creation, given the millions of articles from missing wikipedias. Of course start class articles are great, but this is more a stub building exercise. Of course we don't want them to all be one liners though.The Niue ones I created are shorter than I'd normally consider ideal because I couldn't find much on most of them, I thought it was valuable at least starting of a series on Niue mythology. The remaining five articles some meaty stubs to start class entries. If you think you can contribute a few start class articles to each one though that's great! Dr. Blofeld  15:26, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I've had a quick look at the Scandinavian churches. It's certainly a deserving topic. Although I appreciate the effort has put into compiling an initial list of churches in Sweden, I think perhaps experts such as  might be able to advise on where we should be concentrating out efforts. There are many really noteworthy Swedish churches with both an interesting architectural history and fine interior features. While some of those now in the list certainly deserve inclusion, several do not seem sufficiently noteworthy for coverage in the EN wiki.  might also have suggestions for new articles on churches as well as priorities for expansion of the many stubs on Swedish churches he has contributed over the past few month. Hope I'm not pouring cold water onto a hot new initiative — I just think we should make sure we are spending our time on the most deserving articles.--Ipigott (talk) 16:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry about not listing "the most deserving", I did not know the project had an hierarchy, I just listed some close to my heart. I thought that any suggestion was good enough to start with. They were just suggestions, please feel free to delete some or all. :) I'll leave this to the rest of you experts in the future and crawl back to articles about my little island. Cheers, w.carter -Talk  16:08, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, having spent several months working hard on quality to produce quality articles on deserving subjects I'm returning to stubbing and trying to make things a little fun. Thanks for adding the Swedish churches! Obviously we want to avoid one liners but stubs with a few sourced facts which have some value are worth it. We could always go for 5 start class articles for each one instead of 20 stubs, but I think that takes the fun out of it. There should be no compulsion to have to make them start class, even if long term they're more useful. Still, if we could aim to produce 3-5 start class or lengthier stubs articles and the rest stubs that would be something. The start class articles can be emboldened on the list I guess. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:24, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Check out some of the Paraguayan stubs I created, that's the sort of length stub generally I advise. Those are useful, even if mostly not quite start class. As I say the Niue ones were only very stubby because I couldn't find much on them! The industries could probably have more written about them, as well as the memorial.♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I looked at the Paraguayans yesterday. You did a good job in selecting them. They all appear to be good candidates for the EN wiki. If I find time to spend on them (after working on Carl Nielsen), I would prefer to aim for start class articles or at least meaty stubs. As they are ladies, one we create an article, we are likely to have assistance from several other editors. I always like to work beyond simple translations to include content from a range of sources - but that's my personal choice. Apologies to . I was probably a bit hasty in my comments, especially if the churches he selected were of particular importance to him. It just seemed to me that if we are hoping to widen the project and increase participation, it would be worthwhile spending a bit of time and effort on selecting red links which really deserve our attention. I could try to assist along these lines if others agree with my approach.--Ipigott (talk) 07:06, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I can't see many people who are going to participate in this long term. I think most of us prefer to do our own thing. Perhaps ten articles for a topic would be an easier target to reach? I don't want this to see like a burden or too much hard work, just a bit on the side to have a wildly different topic focus and then have a log to look back over what we've achieved. I think I'll shorten it to 10 articles, keep things sharp and allow us to quickly move onto other topics without getting bored. Should we quickly reach the target before others have had a chance to contribute they can add a few more, so set limit. Some input, particularly from and  would be good here on what to do.♦  Dr. Blofeld  10:05, 2 May 2015 (UTC)


 * At the rate is creating stubs, ten a week looks rather too modest to me. Ten a day would be more like it!  who has just joined could no doubt make up a list based on his red-linked Polish castles while  might be inspired to provide lists of Mexican or South American cultural topics or biographies. It might be useful to have a separate page for compiling new lists (or suggesting topics) and possibly planning a schedule with specific dates or deadlines.--Ipigott (talk) 10:21, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, the idea is more every couple of days. I say a minimum of 10 and however many we feel like doing. Actually I was thinking of Polish castles or Mexican haciendas next!♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it's also good to have red links in a range of languages sitting on the front page so that anyone can come along and find a task suited for their specific language knowledge (I know there are sub-pages, but hiding things away seems counter productive when we're restarting a new project). Furius (talk) 12:03, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, and also a very broad range of topics to appeal to different people. As diverse as we can get towards addressing systematic bias. Also it builds up to something of esteem, to have a log of the range of topics we've covered and what has been started, and also gets editors interested in working in areas/countries they previously not might have. Great work so far Furius!♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:14, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I am partial to start class articles so that I don't have to remember to go back and do them, before someone marks them for deletion. I did two of the Paraguyans and because Mabel Arcondo would have been an orphan, I also did an article on Museo del Barro, which apparently linked to a bunch of articles. I will check in from time to time, as am working on a fairly large project on the Yucatecan haciendas at present. SusunW (talk) 18:08, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * We can do Haciendas at a later date in the stub focus!♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi guys! I've added twenty Swedish churches that I find quite interesting (and cheated a bit by referring quite substantially to Svenska kyrkor - en historisk reseguide, a guidebook that picks for you). I listed churches in provinces which even I realise I will never have the time to cover, considering the pace I've taken on Gotland, Uppland and Skåne... Especially in Västergötland and Östergötland I think there are a lot of curious old medieval churches. And that's another thing, I've mostly chosen churches which are notable for both their history and their architecture (or some other interesting trait). There are of course a lot of beautiful, intriguing and highly relevant churches which are from post-Reformation times, but for now I chose to focus on the old stuff where I myself feel most at home :) Ciao, Yakikaki (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks, well you and Carter can tackle most of those over a few weeks, Rosie and myself won't be creating 40 Swedish churches! You may as well add 8 more and make it a round 50. I'll try to contribute a few more sometime.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:10, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * And here I was, thinking that 42 was the most excellent number possible. w.carter -Talk  23:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all those interesting Swedish churches. I would love to start some of the articles but am pretty tied up at the moment. I'll see whether I can find time later in the week.--Ipigott (talk) 08:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I, too, am fairly tied up with a variety of projects on-wiki and off. But there are tons of artists listed at de:Liste der Notnamen for those who know German and would like to plunge in. Maybe in a month or two I'll be more active in that arena myself. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * , I will say that I have been trying to do at least a couple of these per day from the Spanish wiki. I have been careful to put the Spanish translation notice on them, but for the most part, I am translating virtually nothing. The sourcing, if it exists at all on "wikies", does not seem to link to an actual source page, but to another wiki page about the source. While I would absolutely love to have help with the hacienda project and the Municipalities of Yucatán (the 13 in the metropolitan district: Acanceh, Baca, Conkal, Ixil, Mocochá, Progreso, Seyé, Tahmek, Timucuy, Tixkokob, Tixpéhual, Ucú, Yaxkukul would be a great place to start) it seems a whole lot easier just to start with a template from one of the already in English ones and link the Spanish page in "after the fact." The source on all of the Spanish pages is the government of Yucatan site, word for word, almost verbatum, but there is no citation to same. Again, I am putting a translation notice on the pages I am creating, but I am not really translating anything from the Spanish pages. Just sort of acknowledging that they were the source of the idea. SusunW (talk) 20:42, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If you are not translating, then there is no need to include a translation notice. We can see there is also a Spanish version of the article from the "Languages" links in the LH margin. If an English article is based on its own properly researched sources, it can quickly become much better than the Spanish original (as in the work you have been doing yourself). Anyway, I'm glad to see you are participating so enthusiastically in the project. My greatest contribution up to now seems to have been identifying people like you who are ready to join up.--Ipigott (talk) 07:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Oslo parks
Unfortunately google translate is poor for Norwegian. I've been pasting the full articles which are well sourced and seem decent on No wiki into google translate and they come out as gibbering nonsense for the most part, but am able to extract some discernible facts to create some very basic stubs. Really need some fluent editors here to improve them and translate fully. I've asked for input at the Norwegian project.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:12, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Bing translator is better for Norwegian. The best one I have found for Dutch (or at least Caribbean Dutch) is Systran  SusunW (talk) 12:50, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Might it be useful to draw up a table of the best translation service for each language? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:41, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I think for the main ones google translate is our best bet.♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:42, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I concur with, Google usually has more languages than the others and it is often a decent translation. There are some African languages it does not do well, and I knew about the Norwegian and Dutch because of my work in the Caribbean. Basically, I start with Google and if I get gobbledeegoop, I try one of the others. I don't know that there are enough languages, widely used, that Google does a poor job of to make a list. SusunW (talk) 20:53, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Stub Focus of the Month
OK, I've made the decision to strictly keep it to ten articles listed per topic and extend to a full month and allow for at least 10 different areas of focus. The reason being is that this is more intended to be a fun bit on the side rather than too demanding on the time and effort of editors. I don't want editors to be daunted by having to create a lot of articles! This should be more manageable now. For those editors who added plenty of Polish castles and Swedish churches, thankyou, I strongly encourage you to still do so, but I've moved the remainder to the relative project pages where I hope you and others continue to build the missing lists and continue work on them. Where possible we should add more than 10 missing articles and list on the relative project pages to allow people to continue creating more should they desire it beyond the goal of 10. That way we'll also gradually at least populate some of the work pages with some missing articles!♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:45, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of churches...
May I suggest a topic for the future in the form of Churches in South Tyrol? There are several noteworthy (several can be found here: ), the issue seems not very strongly covered in English Wikipedia and there's plenty of information to dig into for our Italian- and/or German-speaking translators. Yakikaki (talk) 18:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, we can do those next month, thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:59, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Cats
Can we have categories? At least one for the members, perhaps even each language? Another for the articles, perhaps also one for each language: "This article was improved by ..."? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean? ♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:59, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Trying again: I am in Category:WikiProject Germany members, would like to be in Category:WikiProject Intertranswiki members, perhaps even Category:WikiProject Intertranswiki German members. Articles could carry a banner that the project improved them and/or a cat Category:WikiProject Intertranswiki article, - wording subject to discussion. - Ah, I see we have one already! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I entered myself by just the cut, and am sorted under G without further ado. Top explanation is perhaps needlessly complicated ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah I'm with you, I was thinking you meant to create categories like Category:Intertranswiki articles improved by Dr. Blofeld LOL. Sure go ahead and create what you want!♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:30, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Feel free to pick a topic you want us to work on from German wiki for Round 12 and list 10 articles!♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Speaking of categories, I always have trouble creating them, but I was surprised, maybe even shocked, that there is no category for UNESCO Cultural World Heritage Site(s). could one be created? SusunW (talk) 14:02, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * There is a whole system around Category:World Heritage Sites in Germany, see Category:World Heritage Sites by country, - if you need redirects mentioning "UNESCO" (which the article title doesn't), you can create them like other redirects, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * good grief. I tried Unesco, I tried Cultural, I guess you have to be able to think like whoever made up the category. But THANK YOU. I now have my two articles categorized for Ecuador. SusunW (talk) 16:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Cats are a pain for me. When I look for one I go to something that will be in it and take it from there. So here: Hildesheim Cathedral, an article I helped expanding. - For de, I wrote some guiding notes, - could you check if it is comprehensible? Relevant partly for Spanish? Some for all? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

not sure what Zinsregister has to do with music bios? Looks like an interest register or something?♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * It came up in connection with the Bach organ in Störmthal, feel free to change. It's a document but I didn't know how it would be called in English, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Can you pick a more straightforward biography instead? Zinsregister should be started too of course at some point!♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Bio, off a DYK article in 2 days:, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * That's better! May want to check and improve! He was also in WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/ADB 49!♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Interlanguage links
There's a proposal to alter the display format of Ill- and Illm-generated interlanguage links to superscript. It might be to some interest to this project. Alakzi (talk) 12:49, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Mexican actresses
I picked 10 actresses. Must admit that I know nothing whatsoever about film, or actresses. Found this article, Golden Age of Mexican cinema which I culled for articles on the Spanish site. Interestingly Maruja Grifell has no article in English or Spanish but her name comes up in multiple other pages. The two pages I listed that already have English wikis have virtually no data in the English page. One has 1 sentence. The other has 2 sentences and a list of films. SusunW (talk) 14:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Anything which goes towards improvement in coverage of Latin women is a positive thing. Thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:10, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Totally agree. SusunW (talk) 14:18, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Fanny Schiller
I have just spent over 6 hours working on the above referenced file. I translated it from the Spanish Wiki and was working on finding sourcing for the claims, since as you know there are no sources listed on the Spanish Wiki. reverted every bit of my work. So my question is, how does the project move forward if we cannot translate the info and then search for sourcing? Is that not within the scope of the project? I find it quite disheartening that anyone would revert without at least an attempt to discuss, especially since it was clear I was working on the file. SusunW (talk) 17:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * It wasn't clear to me that you were working on it. I was searching for emereo across the entire project, and poor sources simply have no place here. See WP:RS and WP:MIRROR for the specific situation at that article. Maybe the translations should be done in userspace until the sourcing issues are sorted out? - Sitush (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think it was given that Sitush warned me about Emereo the other day and noticed several other mirrored sources in the article (and wasn't aware you were still working on it too). The content is otherwise fine and has now been restored with better sourcing. I've left some pointers on what to watch out for to avoid this happening again in the licensing/sourcing section.♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:06, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * and we could avoid this happening again if we assume that editors are working in good faith and replace a questionable citation with citation needed and a comment on the talk page. I need to walk away for a while. SusunW (talk) 18:09, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I want to get back to working on Fanny. I really do not want to individually have to verify her films, but I will. I find it really, really odd that IMDb is not an acceptable source, but it is given as the source on every single one of the Telenovela pages and so far the movies I have checked. But, I checked each of her telenovelas and she is listed as in them. On the films, I found a database that I am not sure is any better than IMDb. Is it a useable source? I have so far found no listings of her films in books, etc. but will keep looking. SusunW (talk) 23:41, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Interesting, someone I never heard of posted her films. Not all of them, only those up through 1950. But a bunch of them.SusunW (talk) 03:50, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

What I do Susun is use imdb to write the film career of a person. Say In 1953 xxx starred opposite xxx in director's xxx, I'll use the imdb list but I'll source it to a book. I'll google book search the actress and film and use that to support it. Kinda of what I did with Martin Miller (actor, born 1899). I'd never source discussion of films to a database unless I have to. And yes, you should get hits on most films if you google book search her name and the film/director, check out this for instance. You could say In 1944, Schiller starred in Emilio Gómez Muriel's musical comedy La guerra de los pasteles and source it to this, you can paste that url into here to draw it up quickly.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, got it. She's looking better. I still think I lost some parts of it in the hullaballoo. Something keeps rolling around in the back of my mind about voice-overs and I don't have anything on that. Gonna work on another one and will keep coming back to her until I am satisfied. SusunW (talk) 13:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't be afraid to red link all the films. I've been meaning to have a massive stub spree for Mexican and Latin cinema sometime. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:31, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I was kind of giving the two guys who have posted films time to see if they will finish them out. I have them in my sandbox, but not in a table. If they don't post the rest, I will. What I have found is that I get hits on virtually no books. Something about the way they link to Mexico. Rosiestep and I have learned that books she can see I can't and vice verse, so... I did find some good links that may be helpful.


 * ARIEL AWARDS
 * Institute of Mexican Cinematography
 * Cuban list of Mexican/Cuban films SusunW (talk) 18:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Evangelina Elizondo
Can anyone tell me where/how I find a list of her CDs? There is a list on her webpage, which is obviously unusable, but surely someone who knows more about music knows? I have tried all sorts of searches and am coming up blank. She recorded a bunch at Cisne Records, but I cannot find them either. ,   her web page Apparently she was quite talented, sang with Placido Domingo. SusunW (talk) 18:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Not sure, but that's a great new article Susun!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I loved her. The more I wrote, the more amazed I was about her. She links to tons of other articles in the "What links here" as well. There is virtually nothing on the Spanish wiki other than a somewhat sensational account of the killing of Raymon Gay, so I think mostly the sources are good and could not have come from Wiki. Would love to put in more of her albums, I just don't know how to document them except one by one? SusunW (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Composers
Several ill-links in List of composers by name, - where would that be advertised? Different languages. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I'll put up a composers one next week to tackle sometime based on those red links. Will need more than just me starting them though!♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:56, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You asked me for red links, here they are ;) - I didn't know where to place them, because of the many languages. No rush. The ones I want to start I start without even coming here. The progress I see on this Project front page is just amazing! - Rather than starting new ones, I see potential for DYK, and that needs to be realized soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks Gerda, yup a LOT to tackle!♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:01, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I have a similar red link list of artists but as says is all different countries. Can we do a few groups with mixed languages but similar categories? SusunW (talk) 16:51, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yep, at the end of the next week I'll do a general composer one.♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:25, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't know if I gave you the artists' link and it doesn't indicate if they have articles on other wikis but surely there are some worthy of doing that have foreign language articles. Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Visual arts is the page. SusunW (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Romania?
I don't know if it would be of interest, but I was involved in the AfD to save Călin Gruia. In the documentation presented there were 5 authors listed as important and none has an English Wiki article. All save one have an article on Romanian Wiki except Gica Iutes. Possibly we could find 5 women to round out 10? SusunW (talk) 17:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * There are a few redlinks over at the excellent article on the Symbolist movement in Romania that may be of interest in that case. Yakikaki (talk) 17:36, 17 May 2015 (UTC) SusunW (talk) 17:37, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I finally took some time and went through red links. Unfortunately, the only woman I found in the Symbolist piece doesn't have an article on Romanian wiki, but I was able to put together a list of 10 with links. Didn't know what to do with them, Dr.B.,so here's what I found:

Round ??:Romanian writers and symbolists

 * 1) Mihai Codreanu ( ro)
 * 2) Dumitru Almaș ( ro)
 * 3) Carol Scrob ( ro)
 * 4) Octav Pancu-Iași ( ro)
 * 5) Bonifaciu Florescu ( ro)
 * 6) Mircea Sântimbreanu ( ro)
 * 7) Nicolae Ghica-Budești ( ro)
 * 8) Ovidiu Zotta ( ro)
 * 9) Alexandru Săvulescu (architect) ( ro)
 * 10) Cristofi Cerchez ( ro)

SusunW (talk) 14:29, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I will boldly take them to the next slot, - revert if wrong, - please use ill if an article exists in the other language, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 26 May 2015 (UTC) SusunW (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * de nada - I invited a native speaker, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Even better :) SusunW (talk) 15:05, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, good, but I think I have enough for the next few days myself to be getting on with and have a lot of Mexican films I wanted to get cracking on with. If you can take care of most of them it's fine! Actually is the Romanian writer expert and he's even worse than you Susun, he can't produce an article under 50kb LOL. Every article of his on Romanian writers/books/critics has probably the highest number of red links  that I've ever seen on wikipedia!♦  Dr. Blofeld  15:25, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * This is really nice to see! I will read all these with great interest :) Yakikaki (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

If you're working on 10 or more articles on a given topic, involving either translation or creation please put them up on the board so others can also enjoy them and see what people have started. Didn't you create 10 Latvian lighthouses? Put them up too!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:29, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! already one article done :), I did nothing other than link the Romanian articles, but was happy to help with your redlinks. Am really behind, been at ER all morning. Hubby fell off a ladder. Nothing broken, thank goodness. SusunW (talk) 20:33, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * , well, you did more than I did ;) And thanks, it's very kind of you and it also gave me an idea - while I haven't done any Latvian lighthouses (though someone did), I see now that there's an opportunity concerning Estonian ones. Once I'm tiring of churches and nature reserves, I will locust swarm on to those. Stay well, both of you. Ciao for now, Yakikaki (talk) 16:02, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

It was User:Arbustum. I've added those too.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:12, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Nielsen topics
Gerda, is it OK if we do that as one of the early ones for next month's stub focus instead of now in the days leading up to the anniversary?♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:08, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I thought red links in a FA-to-be are not wanted, and the sooner they go the better, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Are they all red links from the FA? I didn't realise! Yes OK, from now it is then!♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:25, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * They are all done. My tiny contribution to a FA. SusunW (talk) 19:01, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Libertad Lamarque
My brain is fried. I THINK, I am as done with her as I can be. I did not go through and list all of her films and certainly not all of her music ... 800 pieces, indeed. There are 3 citations I could not find, 2 of which I think are crucial -- her mom's name in someplace not related to Wiki and that her Hello Dolly really was the first Spanish performance. (It is on the Hello Dolly page). Please feel free to jump in and make changes. I need to rest my brain from translating and searching for sources. Trust me, Cuban Spanish, Mexican Spanish, Argentinian Spanish and all the rest are NOT the same language. Ufffffff SusunW (talk) 02:54, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Don't want you to burn out! Excellent job, that was the biggy, I may get that up to GA at some point. Merello and Bence are the other particular big ones, but the others should be easier. Lamarque was an Everest of a figure in the Latin world!♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:26, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * She was. I will also tell you I read three sentences of the Spanish Wiki and never looked at it again. There may be sources (eye roll) on the page that would help, but the flowery prose and blog references put me off. I just documented it blind and hopefully have no mirrors. SusunW (talk) 13:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You're probably right! The articles look of deceptively good quality though!♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That is an ongoing problem with some of the articles on the Spanish language Wikipedia: sourcing. Blogs, deadlinks, or no sources at all. #sign But LL is now a wonderful article; good job. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you both. And yes deadlinks, if there are any references at all is a huge problem. I think the first several I clicked on in LL were all dead. I tried to remember to run every link into Wayback. I may have missed one or two, but all the critical ones are there. SusunW (talk) 14:20, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * And Fanny is nudging me to go back and work on her. Did you notice that LL's producer on Hello Dolly! in Mexico was Fanny Schiller's son? Someone needs to do an article. LOL. BUT, today, one more of Ian's Danes and then a Brazilian feminist.SusunW (talk) 14:25, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Templates
One thing I'm utterly incapable of doing but would really appreciate is the translation of templates. A particularly neat one which we're missing is Italian wikipedia's Template:Vescovo, but I run into others fairly regularly - is there a place for listing templates for translation? Furius (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You can ask here or at WP:RT. Does Infobox Christian leader not work for this purpose? Alakzi (talk) 21:49, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! I think this is actually what I'm after / will produce - a list of templates that are effectively translations but aren't interwiki'ed. Furius (talk) 12:07, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Another one I can think off the top of my head is Infobox venue. Alakzi (talk) 21:52, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Another one for people is infobox person, following the comment by which Andy won my heart: "Unless, of course, someone wishes to argue that Barber was not a person...", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Mecha Ortiz
They did not call her the Argentine Garbo for nothing. I am having a heck of a time finding any documentation that is not Wiki related. She wrote an autobiography which might be helpful, but I cannot find it from here. I also find 785 listings for her in the [Argentine film library] but when you click on the links to the "400 Revues et articles de presse" none of them seem to go to actual articles, just the summary of what is on file. Uff. I was able to significantly improve the article on Nelly Omar. Will keep looking but Dr. B if you have ideas for sourcing, let me know. SusunW (talk) 03:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Mentioned Garbo here. If you can't find general bio stuff a basic coverage of her films and book sources should suffice. Google book her name and the film etc.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:42, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * It may take me a while, I'm stubborn like that, but I will find documentation. Snippets - husband had a horseback riding accident leaving him either paraplegic or in a coma which led to her career. She had a huge, Judy-Garland-like, gay following. She was considered a bigger star than even Lamarque, partially because of the mystery that surrounded her. If I must, I will just do her films, but I will keep searching for info on her. Now I am totally intrigued. SusunW (talk) 19:14, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Expansion
As the expansion ones need a lot of work and take longer to do, I've decided to move the Argentine ones to the bottom. At the end of each month we can propose a topic focus of existing stubs to expand, and SusunW can decide what she wants to work on! Or between us we could select 10 random articles which badly need expansion and mix it up, whatever is most interesting to people here! I think I would favour a mix of 10 different ones to generate the most interest, and they have to be ones which people like and others have had in mind to expand too and will be interested in expanding aside from just Susun.♦  Dr. Blofeld  17:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Works for me. I am obviously not going to get through the Argentines this month, as I keep working on other translations, but I am working on them. Besides which, I seem genetically incapable of making a stub unless it is something non-human. Even in humans I cringe about, apparently. José María Reyes Mata was a soldier, eeeek. Castro called them "his soldiers of Medicine". Extremely disturbing sources. We can safely bet I will never want to expand an article about war again. SusunW (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The problem there is that most pre 1900 Latin American male biographies from the colonial period usually involve them in some sort of battle. Most of the presidents were war heroes!♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:08, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * For next month three of us are planning a focus on Mining in Africa:

The goal for that will be more than just stubs though, to produce all start class articles. It would be great if more than Rosie, Nvv and myself could help out with a few of them, we're planning a 16 in one hook. Perhaps each month one: Stub expand drive for translation and one missing article drive for start class for non translation like that will work well. Argentine actresses can continue into next month for you if you like unless you've had enough of them hehe!♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Mining industry of Guinea - Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Guinea
 * 2) Mining industry of Lesotho - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Lesotho
 * 3) Mining industry of Liberia - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Liberia
 * 4) Mining industry of Libya - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Libya
 * 5) Mining industry of Madagascar - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Madagascar
 * 6) Mining industry of Malawi - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Malawi
 * 7) Mining industry of Mali - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Mali
 * 8) Mining industry of Morocco - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Morocco
 * 9) Mining industry of Senegal - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Senegal
 * 10) Mining industry of South Sudan - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of South Sudan
 * 11) Mining industry of Sudan - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Sudan
 * 12) Mining industry of Swaziland - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Swaziland
 * 13) Mining industry of Tanzania - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Tanzania
 * 14) Mining industry of Togo - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Togo
 * 15) Mining industry of Tunisia - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Tunisia
 * 16) Mining industry of Uganda - WikiProject Intertranswiki/Sandbox/Mining industry of Uganda
 * I'm fine with the actresses, am just slow, since I can hardly write anything but start class articles. It takes me a while to synthesize the translations and then find sources and then translate sources and then look for links, realize the article I'm linking to needs sources, then look for more sources. LOL I am too OCD to link to a page that is unsourced. I'll get them all done, hopefully by the end of June. Do you know of any sources for the silver condor? They all seem to be dead links. ;) SusunW (talk) 05:45, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I started some of the Silver Condor winning films a while back, something else I need to continue with! Yes, they're not easy to source for some reason.♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm no mining expert but it seems to me that it's almost perverse not to have articles on mining in every country of Africa. It's a blaring case of "content gap" when one thinks of all the Star Trek episodes going through GAN in comparison (and everyone knows I'm a huge Trekkie, so I'm not dissing ST). I know mining articles aren't to everyone's liking, but I think that having a group of editors beyond, , and me creating/working these sandbox articles will produce something pretty good. And for newer editors, it'll be a chance for them to get some DYK credits if they work on them. What's a good way to promote this month's project as lots of folks don't have this project page watchlisted? I'm thinking about dropping a templated note on members' talkpages. Any other ideas? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:04, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Trees of Chile
Round 33 is "Trees of Chile". Dr Blofeld stubbed some of these and invited me to help. I have created articles for the rest and expanded his stubs. I aim to get them all to start class and submit them, or some of them, to DYK with multiple article hooks. I have done descriptions for each of them and if anyone wants to participate in their further expansion, they are welcome. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:02, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Excellent work !♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:55, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles
Started a thread there about project coordination. Now, I like this project name and format and that we mainly focus on transwikiying content, but generally we are interested in missing content in general, and rather than a project like the Missing encyclopedic one largely being a database of missing articles in which the occasional person plods through a page or two, I'd like to see it more functional, like we have been this month. I'm not sure a full merge is desirable yet, but something in support here of general missing content and to regularly list missing articles from old encyclopedias and stuff to be started from that project too I think would be a good thing. Really it would make sense to have one large project geared towards all missing content, but I think most of us of course would be unwilling to do the large scale development stuff we'd need to create a massive scale directory of missing content, neither do I see much value in really having a massive database of missing content as there's only so much a few of us can really contribute. It's much more productive and effective I think to take small chunks of a topic and put 10 up on a board like we've been doing which can realistically be started. The best thing I think would be to also put 10 articles up from the old encyclopedias needing starting for the project to function more as an overlap and support the wide picture.♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:46, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015
Fantastic stuff folks, over 400 articles created! Things will run at a more leisurely pace this month anyway!♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! 400 articles is huge! But where might we find the May list? and more leisurely is good. You work amazingly fast. I feel like I am doing good to do 2 a day and sometimes that is a stretch. SusunW (talk) 13:33, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That's huge! We could do an "Articles created" subpage, such as this, to house them, but it could get really big really fast. And that's not to mention all the translations going on -- ITW's original scope -- in addition to Stub Focus of the Month. I don't know that anyone, including me, has been keeping track of them on these project pages. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I created a nav box in the stub section, the May 2015 run is linked at the top of it. It's best to archive each month I think. Well, I'm amazed how you manage to write such good articles on even languages like Romanian. I do a quick google translate on everyone and decipher what I can from it. French, Spanish and Italian translate rather well, and I'm intermediate level Spanish anyway, but German and languages like Norwegian, Romanian etc still rather poor so they tend to be more stubby. Yes, I'll be working at a slower pace on these from now on, but I still think we could probably manage 15 to 20 rounds a month without too much difficulty. The first 12 should last at least two weeks now anyway. If we keep the topics fresh and exciting ones it can continue, especially ones which any one of us might typically be working on regardless of the project anyway like Latin women writers etc..♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC) Can you add ten German ones for Round 7, German composers or organists or whatever, ideally from your cantata entries.♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will, - too busy with a possible GA to translate myself, but a bit annoyed how many red links we still had in yesterday pic, - anybody to find agood translation for "Trösterin Musik", - closest so far "Comforter Music", but not presenting that Trösterin is a female Tröster. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Trust me, I am not even intermediate in anything other than English (okay, maybe piglatin). I barely speak Spanish, but, I learned to read Latin as a kid and can usually figure out the roots to Latin based languages. I was surprised at how much Romanian I could decipher. I am truly terrible at hearing and speaking. If people could hand me a print out of what they are saying, communication would be simpler :P I'm almost done with Zubarry and then think I can whip out a couple of haciendas. They go fairly fast with the fill-in-the-blank sandbox I made. Actually my goal for the month is to try to do one long and 1 hacienda each day, but not sure I will manage that. SusunW (talk) 22:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess we could have made the haciendas a project of the month. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:51, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * LOL they will take much longer than a month, there are so many, and I am trying to work the municipalities that link with them as I go, so it is taking longer, but ultimately will make for a more complete encyclopedia. Soooo, can anyone tell me how to make a disambiguation page? We will need it with the Kancabchén haciendas. SusunW (talk) 18:27, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Never made a disambiguation page before. Is this all I have to do to it? User:SusunW/Kancabchén And where do I find the format for the text that goes at the top of the articles to refer them to it? SusunW (talk) 21:22, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:DAB and WP:HATNOTE would give you particulars. Some things I keep in mind: only wikilink the entry, and do no wikilink the subsequent words (i.e. Hacienda Kancabchén (Halachó), Yucatán, Mexico). In the Kancabchén example, the hatnote would look like this: . And I know what you're thinking... so much stuff to learn/remember. Yup! But I love hatnotes, so that's always been a fun one for me. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:34, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * when I move it, do I call it an "article"? Or is there some other designation I give that kind of page? SusunW (talk) 18:51, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, article. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I sort of screwed it up. *sigh* If you do it as I set it up,it does not show as a disambiguation page. Just makes a page called Kancabchén and Kankabchén. I tried to undo the pages after I made them and it would not allow me to do that. So I moved them again to Kancabchén (disambiguation) and Kankabchén (disambiguation). Thus the first two need to be deleted. Then I topped the pages with: . I hate making extra work for anyone. Sorry. SusunW (talk) 00:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ no worries! I deleted them. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:42, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Gracias, mi amiga. At least I now know how to do it. I apparently seem to learn better if I screw it up the first time ;) SusunW (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Testing testing
While I've been working on this project I've been listing approximately 25% of the red links identified (by me) as more than averagely deserving of the translator's attention. However, I'm not sure I've yet sufficiently identified the priorities of the group - eg as between quantity of entries we can start and quantity of "beef" in any individual entry.

Anyhow, here's a proposal for a batch of ten. What they have in common is that (1) I thought they looked interesting - slightly educative even - and (2) in each case there's enough text in a non-English wikipedia entry to provide for at least ten to twenty lines without having to google round and find more info outside wikipedia. And (3) they're all potted biographies of a mildy historic character. And (4) on reflection it all looks a bit churchy ... but then so does a lot of life / stuff / history.

Round 9999: Potted biographies (Historical)

 * 1) Historian (DDR)
 * 2) Historian (DDR)
 * 3) Banker & co-op pioneer.  Looks interesting.
 * 4) Medieval castle owner
 * 5) DDR auxilliary bishop
 * 6) DDR auxilliary bishop
 * 7) High profile Tunisian politician
 * 8) High profile Tunisian politician
 * 9) Insider at Napoleonic court who came a cropper after 1815
 * 10) Belgian bishop

What do people think, please?

Regards Charles01 (talk) 11:07, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

You can add what you like so long as you start most of them ;-) Another idea might be to add a Miscellan. feature every month and you pick out 10 really notable missing biographies or something? ♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:46, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Spanish Wiki
This is the 2nd article I have hit on in Spanish wiki that has no sourcing and I can find nada, not one thing, that does not lead back to the wiki. I ran her name, Ingrid Cabrera Valladares, Ingrid Cabrera, Ingrid Cabrera Navarrete, Ingrid Cabrera Carpenter; her books: Llegará un tren a media noche (A train will arrive at midnight), Veneno para ciegos (Poison for the blind), Frágil baile es el fuego (Fragile dancing is the fire), Smile, Prendas olvidadas (forgotten apparel)  Salida a Harlem (Exit to Harlem), Cinco cigarrillos para el señor Cabrera (Five cigarettes to Mr. Cabrera); her husbands: Roberto Navarrete and Steven Carpenter and for all of that get nothing that is not a direct mirror of the info in wiki. I tried her in worldcat, abebooks, google. Maybe someone else with different search access can find something, but I am wondering if she existed?


 * , Back to this because it is a total puzzlement. I am honestly wondering if she is real. I tried Project Muse, Open Library and Newspapers.com too. I get nothing at all. SusunW (talk) 01:16, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

The other one is I think he is probably real, but every thing including government web sites go back to an article written by his daughter, on a webpage maintained by his granddaughter. I am going to stub him, but he needs help with sourcing. SusunW (talk) 18:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * If Google really won't help, I see that the person who wrote (>95% of) the entry on Carlos Irigoyen Ruiz is still, from time to time, wiki-active.  If you leave a message on his/her talk page asking nicely for his sources because the entry is so interesting that it deserves translation for an English speaking readership ..... but sources are better than no-sources ...  he or she may very well be delighted that you share his/her enthusiasm for the subject.   You're unlikely to get inline citations from that approach, but you may nevertheless get some clues sufficient to use for a short list of "general" sources.  I've done this in the past.   Sometimes it works: sometimes it doesn't.  But in the spirit of a project that, at its best, is "collaborative" it costs nothing (except maybe 10 minutes) to try.   Success  Charles01 (talk) 19:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)   Who knows, you might even get to liaise with his granddaughter....


 * on Irigoyen though there aren't in-line sources, every single bit of it comes from the two references cited--both by his daughter. She says that there are newspaper articles, but I find none. My problem in citing the source given without corroboration with some other documentation is how reliable is she. You know my father hung the moon in the sky, (really, he did), even if *you* can't prove it. If he played for Wallis Simpson, there ought to be a record in the British press. If he made records with RCA Victor, there ought to be a record. I can find nothing. But Mexico limits what I can search. That's why I posted them here. Maybe someone else can find something. I have a friend from Salvador who lives in Belize, so I asked him, but don't know if he can/will be able to help. SusunW (talk) 20:46, 15 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I find it interesting that she doesn't have an entry at Worldcat or VIAF. I googled the 3 books mentioned in the lede, and nada; also nada for the Steven Carpenter redlink. I think Charles01's suggestion sounds appropriate. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:38, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * & I did send him a message (guy's name is SergeiBlakz), but I don't know 1) if he speaks English and my written and spoken Spanish is awful, and 2) the only thing on his talk page is from 2013 and is a request for him to put in-line sources on the Irigoyen article, which wasn't done. As I said, it isn't like there is nothing, there is one source, but it is hard to judge whether it is RS if we cannot find anything else. There was at least a picture and google does turn up other photos, and the cultural website for El Salvador acknowledges him, so I think he was at least a real person. The Guatemalan lady, I am not so sure about. No photos, no pictures, no nothing. The person who wrote that article, Gerardo Argueta has contributed nothing since 2009. The article has been flagged for sourcing since 2013. I have no idea where we go from here with her. SusunW (talk) 02:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


 * If I think of anything else I'll share it.  Didn't yet, though.   Meantime, it seemed unkind to leave your expostulations unanswered.   Then again, maybe that would have been just as (un)helpful.  I'm off to look up "expostulations".   Success Charles01 (talk) 10:09, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You made me chuckle. Smiling with coffee is always a good way to start the morning. I don't think your suggestions were unhelpful in the slightest. I'd love it if the guy answers. Even better, if he answers in English ;) SusunW (talk) 13:36, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

FInd a replacement article to create then and remove Cabrera from the list.♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll try and remember the es Ingrid article when I get to Wikimania and I'll mention it to an es admin. Get their take on what to do with it. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:11, 17 June 2015 (UTC) SusunW (talk) 14:38, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Woot! Thank you Dr. B, Luz Méndez de la Vega was an amazing replacement. Rosie will like her too. Feminist, writer, actress, I think she hit all of our categories. :) SusunW (talk) 22:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup, great choice! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Praise for all
I'm really witnessing some amazing work coming in from multiple people here. It's rare that I'll see more than two people doing good work in any one place, this is a great achievement, already in about seven weeks we've achieved so much. Keep it up everybody, this is sterling work!♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:52, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyright Violation Detection - EranBot Project
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WiR
Let's cross-post women's biographies and women's works between this project and WP:WikiProject Women in Red so that we have more eyes and hopefully more hands working on these articles. FYI, I just cross-posted the Latin women's article section. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:45, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You could put the Finnish women there too if you want, though there is only one left. SusunW (talk) 20:23, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Archive
Can we have the links to the archived months somewhere obvious please? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Did't you notice them in the nav box on the right??♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:56, 1 August 2015 (UTC)


 * No, sorry, swirling too much ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Barbara Reeder Lundquist
Can somebody find enough on this sociomusicologist?♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Esmeralda Pimentel
Hello, I would like to know if there is any user who can help me to improve the translation of this article?. I think that there should be some grammarians errors, but I don't know very well. I was translating the Wikipedia in Spanish to English.--  Philip J Fry  • ( talk ) 11:40, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I've given it a copy edit. SusunW (talk) 14:30, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help, I think that will be all. --  Philip J Fry  • ( talk ) 15:09, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

SusunW (talk) 15:11, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Newspaperarchive.com
People might be interested in signing up for this, the biggest newspaper archive resource in the world!♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:27, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Requests
,, Can either of you find enough to start the following?
 * Alora Gooding -actress
 * I don't see that she did anything much notable other than produce a child with an unsubstantiated claim as Sinatra's daughter. Her real name, Dorothy Bonucelli, aka Dorothy Gooding, aka Dorothy Lyma results in nothing on my end except references to the affair and child. 2 movie credits but nada else. SusunW (talk) 15:17, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Rita Maritt, Long Island debutante, the daughter of an oil baron,
 * You find more than me about her. I can only find one sentence in a book. She was 16 and fresh out of convent school when she had an affair with Sinatra. SusunW (talk) 15:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Mary Lou Watts, socialite

They're red links in Sinatra. Not sure on notability. Maritt appears to be notable for little more than The Sky's the Limit and dating Sinatra. If you think they're not notable I'll shut off the links.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:42, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I think I'll cut them out. Thanks anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:29, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Agree again with. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Bridge of the 14th July
Just to inform you that there is already an article for this, entitled 14th of July Bridge. Lucky102 (talk) 11:58, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So there is.  Many thanks for pointing it out, and for your transformational (is that a word? - I think so) work just now on the entry in question.
 * Regards Charles01 (talk) 12:07, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The existing entry needs a lot of work!♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:02, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Frank Sinatra Day
I've proposed December 12th for Frank Sinatra Day for DYK, to host related hooks for 24 hours. See Template talk:Did you know. Articles are listed under the special holding area at the bottom of Wikipedia talk:Did you know ‎. I'd be grateful if, , , , , and anybody else could help create/expand an article or two to go towards it. If you support the idea of Sinatra Day please offer your support at Wikipedia talk:Did you know ♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I like writing album articles. Got one in mind, or should I select a random LP?    78.26   (spin me / revolutions) 18:24, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I think his early Capitol stuff in particular, Songs for Young Lovers, Swing Easy!, In the Wee Small Hours, Songs for Swingin' Lovers!, Close to You, A Swingin' Affair!, Where Are You? and Come Fly with Me are essentials. Songs for Young Lovers I'd highlight in particular, his first at Capitol as being underdeveloped.♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:35, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll do one, not sure what. Between the scientists editathon and the Caribbean schools and my out-of-town guests my time is crazy, but I promise I will do one. SusunW (talk) 19:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

If I can find enough I may get Jack Entratter to GA. If you can find anything else along with Rosie we might be onto a winner!♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Do you have enough material for Sinatra at the Sands, that's my favourite Sinatra album I think, largely because of the feel of the setting and the hilarious Tea Break.♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:07, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I can add material to Sinatra at the Sands, but probably not enough for 5X, which it would need to appear in DYK.  Songs for Young Lovers might be an easier go, as it is such an iconic album.    78.26   (spin me / revolutions) 22:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, now I feel bad. I did the article on the Riobamba Club, but didn't know you had posted it on the DYK page as well and that someone else had tagged it there that they would do it. I tagged it on this page, not knowing of the other page's existence. Too many postings in too many locations and now I've stepped on toes not meaning to. Anyway, the article is written, feel free to make any adjustments you want. I have to go play hostess so will not be back for a bit. SusunW (talk) 23:31, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm sure doesn't mind. Yoninah can contribute further to it if she? wishes or create a different one. Thankyou!♦  Dr. Blofeld  12:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I found at least three mentions of Sinatra staying at the Hollywood Plaza Hotel when he was on the West Coast, so I created that article. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:25, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah I think that's it Rosie, so cool, thanks!♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Echo
WikiProject Echo is completely redundant to this project. Can someone import all the useful resources from its subpages over to this project? 103.6.159.85 (talk) 21:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * What's the rationale behind removing the merge tag? 103.6.159.85 (talk) 10:31, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Le déclin de la télévision en faveur de la diffusion instantanée
Is there a tag to tag pages needing to move to a different language wikipedia? Or a Deletion tag for this? -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:40, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a draft, not an article. Why would you want to remove it? It seems clear it is only a work in progress as it is not in mainspace. SusunW (talk) 04:53, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's in French, not English, so will never go to mainspace. As we don't publish works written in French on English Wikipedia, even the draft is on the wrong Wikipedia, it should either be deleted or moved to French Wikipedia. Since Wikipedia is WP:NOTWEBHOST we shouldn't be hosting draft articles that will never be published, and with any non-English articles, this is the case on English Wikipedia. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:33, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If I am working with Spanish sources, I often save text in Spanish in the draft and then translate it to English. It isn't as if we are running out of space. You are assuming it is going to be moved to mainspace. It may never be and the person may not work on French wiki. I write English articles only, though I often translate Spanish articles to English wiki. Moving one of my drafts to Spanish wiki would not be remotely helpful. I guess I still don't understand why it is an issue. SusunW (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The sources used in the draft article are in English. This is clearly not meant for English language consumption. The author is not writing for an English language audience, and Wikipedia is still not a webhost, so if it is not meant to be published, it should be deleted forthwith. If it is meant to be published, it is on the wrong Wikipedia. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:57, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Drafts
Does this project covers drafts as well? MFD is having a discussion about a non-English language draft and I wonder if it's possible that it be looked at, even if it has been blanked. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:09, 4 April 2016 (UTC)


 * As far as I know there is not anyone currently active under the cloak of this project who works with the language in question.  But if someone will tell me I am wrong about that, I will be happy.


 * As far as "does this project include...?" the position in reality seems to be that you can list on the project page for translation any batch of ten (or fewer) entries that takes your fancy.  BUT you are likely to be the one who does most of the translations.   Or else they get left month after month looking eternally hopeful.   But in that sense, if you wish to list a batch of drafts for improvement, and especially if you are happy to be the one who does most of the work, go for it.


 * As far as the discussion to which you posted a link is concerned, my first reaction is that trying to find someone to translate it might be a more constructive response than nominating the page for blanking.  On the other hand, if it's been sitting there untouched for five years, maybe someone already tried that several times.   We are all of us - well almost all of us and quite a lot of the time - on Wikipedia much better at suggesting work for others than doing stuff ourselves.   Anyhow, guilty as charged I flagged up a request on project Sri Lanka that someone might care to take a look.   There must be people there who are familiar with the language.   Or?   If you can think of anywhere else to flag up a request, please do it.   Then again, maybe you just did.


 * Best wishes Charles01 (talk) 08:58, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Intertranswiki
Hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao,

I read your message about giving this project a push, and I'd love to take part in it. I didn't know where to put my username with the tick next to it, so I opened this new section for this. Feel free to move it anywhere else if this is not the place.

✅ --Indiralena 20:46, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Scaling this project
Is is a little disappointing, as I'm sure Charles will profess, that this project is so low key at the moment. Translation and transwiki is one of the most important things we can do on here. It's not easy to find the time to focus on this with other projects running though. Would it be worth messaging around again to attract a few more regulars? There's still people who translate things like Swedish churches etc but they're not doing it from within this project. A big thankyou to Charles anyway for keeping this alive, just...♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:26, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I think, to the extent that I'm active on wiki at all at the moment, that I'm one of the people "Swedish church translators." I hesitate to suggest how anything might be done differently because I think most of the reasons I'm inactive are 'real life' ones. I really appreciate the work being done here and look forward to coming back to this project when I work out how to make more time (soon, hopefully!).
 * One thing I might say is that when I translate things, usually, I then go and translate the red links from the newly translated page - or other items in the same category. This tends to lead me away from the project and into "Swedish church translation" even when I come here looking for a starting point. I actually think this is one of the great things about the project - it is much more outward looking than any of the others I'm involved in. But maybe I need to try harder to link it back to this project, because I agree that the appearance of inactivity is disheartening and breeds further inactivity. Furius (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey I don't know if you're active or not, but I know I've often seen things like Swedish and Norwegian new entries coming in, it would be good if they could be done as part of this, but understand that people might want to do their own thing. It's all part of the intertranswiki effort!♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:27, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

The 10,000 Challenge
,, , , , , , etc, I was wondering if any of you would be interested in setting up a The 10,000 Challenge (Northern Europe) or The 10,000 Challenge (Nordic) based on the successful The 10,000 Challenge for the UK which has seen over 1800 improvements in a few months? It's just I'm hoping to see some other parts of the world running their own ones. We could include Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland one combined but Germany, Netherlands, Poland and Belgium etc would also be good, but some of the countries might not have anything in common. It's just I know other areas of Europe on here don't tend to have many editors on English wiki, but combined there's a few people who contribute to the Nordic nations and parts of Northern Europe to make something work. We could of course set it at a 1000 or 5000 article target to start with or something but I hope there's a way we can set something up which will motivate editors. It could also potentially include Swedish/Norwegian/Finnish/Germany/Dutch/Polish wikipedia etc. #

Obviously if we had the editors it would be good to start one for each country but we don't. Perhaps if we started with a 1000 Challenge for some of the active European countries individually, it this something which could be achieved and go towards this? You could do say The 1000 Challenge (Germany), The 1000 Challenge (Poland), The 1000 Challenge (Netherlands), The 1000 Challenge (Norway), The 1000 Challenge (Sweden) to start with perhaps? The articles regularly translated as part of Interntranswiki of course would be listed under the respective challenges and give people more of a long term goal to achieve on here? Each countries would need at least 2 or 3 active editors on board to start something though. I think potentially Germany, Denmark and Sweden might have enough to start something for each.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:40, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ernst, I think this is a great idea, but between my job and ArbCom I just don't have the time for a serious commitment... thanks though. Drmies (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a cool idea in general. Polish Wiki does something similar, focusing on countries and topics. We could try to involve Wikiprojects. Whether I have time to contribute much these days personally, I am not so sure. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  03:51, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Anything that encourages people to contribute half-way usable (or better) material is good, and where a good "stub-class plus" entry already exists in another language version of wikipedia, that clearly counts as "low hanging fruit" (a particularly irritating piece of business jargon I was taught in the 1990s) - much quicker and easier to pick and cultivate the pips than visiting a university library and mugging up a topic ab initio.  This new project seems calculated to encourage contributions of wiki-content, and if, simply by adding a hidden (or not) category, I can include any future contributions, where appropriate, in such a project, I've absolutely no objection.   But the quantity of any individual's wiki-hours - like other hours - is necessarily finite, and I think that to the extent I am able to be useful to the overall project, my wiki-time is probably better applied in adding content that in multi-tiered wiki-project administration.   Also, for better and / or worse, I am having difficulty excluding from my mind various metaphors involving herding domestic cats.   Been there: done that.  Now who's this "Ernst" fellow?  (Only being facetious:  I really have worked it out...)   Success Charles01 (talk) 07:41, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, , and. I'm just wondering what the best thing would be here, I mean Netherlands is as about as connected to Iceland as the UK is to Croatia, a Northern European one I think would be too generic and unlikely to attract contributors. One for Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland and Denmark might work. Perhaps I'll set up a 1000 Challenge for some of these European countries, Germany and Sweden strike me as good places to start. I'll have to see if we can get some contributors from a few countries first. I'll think more about it later in the autumn.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:19, 12 September 2016 (UTC)


 * You are certainly developing ideas for lots of contests at the moment, what with all the African interest, the West Country, and support for Women in Red. As for "Northern Europe", maybe we could start by concentrating on the four main Nordic countries: Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden. They have quite a lot in common in terms of language, history and culture. In fact, coverage of Norway and Sweden is already pretty good with about 45,000 articles on each. The real effort needs to go into Denmark (19,000) and Finland (14,500). Have you thought about timing for this? We don't want to be doing too much at the same time.--Ipigott (talk) 08:41, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

The proposed 10,000/1000 drives aren't contests, but ongoing goals. I doubt we'd get enough contributors to run contests for most places not in the English speaking world. The idea is more to combine the people who are contributing towards these countries anyway and record all the work being done to try to inspire other people to create more. Obviously I can't run contests and be responsible for everywhere, but I'm hoping people can see what has been achieved to date and copy it and then take charge of it and contribute towards a focus regardless of my own input. If we can get enough interest and the relative chapters involved, so it would also including the native language wikis as well, then you could probably run contests, but that's well into the future. I do hope we reach a point though where each country will have a few dedicated contributors to at least make the 1000 challenges work. I know you're very busy with Women in Red Ipigott, but if and  would be interested in setting something up for the Nordic countries as a challenge I'll do it. Agree on those four main Nordic countries being a good places to start. I'll see what I can do for this later.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:51, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I like the idea very much, and I have a few ideas already that I could use as a starting platform. The big question mark for me is time - I'm quite busy this autumn at work. If someone makes the basic set-up I'd be happy to contribute articles though. Finland is very interesting, my Swedish could partially be a help there, too. And then I would also like to point out that the Baltic states are terribly covered (just look at the messy article on Riga) - worth considering for the future. Yakikaki (talk) 15:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * And you, Yakikaki, beat me to it. Even a division like Denmark/Faroes/Iceland/Norway-Bokmål/Norway-Nynorsk and  Baltics/Finland/Sweden might make sense.  (Trying to read Faroese & Icelandic is mostly futile, but fun.  Finnish is, of course, a whole 'nother ball game.)  --Hordaland (talk) 19:09, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I think a general Nordic one would be best which and cover all in one as there won't be a lot of editors interested in doing both. I'll set something up tomorrow and see if you like it!♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:40, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Would a 1000 target be reasonable to start with?♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It's a good start IMO, let's do it! Yakikaki (talk) 14:59, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

,, , , , I've set up a page at The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). Obviously long term 10,000 would be more ambitious and in keeping with the others and we want enough support to be able to run national contests for Denmark, Norway and Sweden etc based on the WP:Awaken the Dragon model but let's see how this gets off running first. Please alert all of the relative wikiprojects and members and this can start asap!♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:55, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It's just occurred to me that might like to participate too.--Ipigott (talk) 10:58, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge
,, , , , etc, this is now up.♦  Dr. Blofeld  20:03, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Good! But I'm a little confused. If I contribute to an article on Scandinavia, which project does it go in? Furius (talk) 21:19, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It'll remain it's own 1000 Challenge, but we'll "tip" in entries after every 100 contributed if everybody is OK with that. You might be interested in the German or French ones proposed, sign up under Germany or France if so.♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:22, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * In any case, I see the Nordic countries have not been included. I, for one, will continue to contribute to the Nordic Challenge, particularly as we have been getting on so well. There's so much going on at the moment, I don't think I'll be able to commit myself to more European countries for the time being. But thanks,, for extending your successful approach to the whole of Europe.--Ipigott (talk) 07:23, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think retain the 1000 Challenges as their own ones, but we can feed the Europe one with them. I doubt the European one will be as viable as the others, that's why I proposed country challenges, but it's a framework which will be needed for future development and has a good chance of a least one or two people wanting another sub challenge.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:48, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Multilingual Women's History Month in March
There has been a discussion on the WiR talk page about embarking on a multilingual approach to Women in Red in March. The general idea is that we should follow in the footsteps of Wikipedia Asian Month by encouraging other language versions of Wikipedia to participate in our editathon. It has been suggested that we could start with some of the European languages with Latin alphabets which have proved successful in WAM but we could also think of including other important language versions such as Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Russian. For each language version we will need at least one coordinator to translate the invitations and support pages and to provide assistance to participants. We welcome any ideas on how we should proceed as well as any offers of support for other languages. The topics of Activists and Feminists appear suitable for all the languages but it might be useful to extend our scope to attract users interested in creating article on women active in other areas. Please respond here.--Ipigott (talk) 11:20, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Bovilla
Hi, can or  translate this from German wiki?♦  Dr. Blofeld  17:01, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Will do it now. Furius (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks.Really notable feature when you look on google maps. I spotted that they've recently hit Albania with Steeet View. Amazed that it was missing! Will add to the Euro challenge once you've finished :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld  23:07, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Done, except for the infobox - I find them a real pain and (incidentally) wonder if it might be possible for WP:intertranswiki and WP:Templates to team up in order to create something that would automate translation of them. Furius (talk) 23:59, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

For January 2017: Missing biographies of Google Doodle honorees.
There are many people honored with a Google logo ([www.Google.com/doodles]).While most of them have a biography on English Wikipedia, some of them haven't.

I suggest one of the next translation rounds for ITW should be creating those missing biographies. All of them have articles in their native language Wikipedias. What do you think?


 * Aiga Rasch, German illustrator
 * Ernesto Carneiro Ribeiro, Brazilian doctor and linguist.
 * Carmen Costa, Brazilian singer.
 * Ji Hyeon-ok, Korean mountain climber.
 * Andrejs Jurjāns, Latvian composer.
 * Hatsusaburō Yoshida, Japanese illustrator. DanielGSouza (talk) 16:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)


 * No one would demur, I think.  Feel free to add a batch of your own in early January.


 * Be aware, however, that having been (re)launched with a certain amount of wiki-fanfare a year and a half back, this project only has one active participant these days.  If you are proposing to make that two, welcome aboard.   The practical implication is that unless you suffer from interminable optimism (and they tell me that it is indeed Christmas) you should probably only list for translation articles that you yourself expect to translate.   Even when there were more of us, that was how it tended to end up >80% of the time.


 * For my part, the only one of your chosen languages with which I can claim even basic familiarity is German.  (Though I used to be able to order a drink - maybe even a meal - in Portuguese.)


 * Success.  And regards Charles01 (talk) 16:41, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm considering this as a New Year resolution. I can handle the Portuguese language ones easily; the other ones... not really (although looks like Google translation improved a lot with the neural networks. I should give it a try and look for sources in English to help)
 * Thank you for your support, and Happy holidays.DanielGSouza (talk) 17:11, 24 December 2016 (UTC)