Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran/Archive 1

=Project Organization=

How do i become a member of wikiproject iran
How and what would i have to do? thanks in advance. Iranian Patriot 19:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Add your name to the main page Cdamama 14:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Should you be allowed to add colour to your name on this list? -- Purdonkurt 11:28, 19 May 2007

Grammer problems section
i would appreciate it if someone created a grammer problems section. that way i, as well as others, could find those articles easily and corret the mistakes in them, so that they look more professional. thanks in advance. also, with that new section, people can add on articles that they find, so they can be fixed. so far, i have corrected a number of articles, andi have no doubt that there are plenty more out there with a lot of grammatical mistakes in them.Iranian Patriot 16:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 15:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Empty sections in Portal:Iran
Here are a few ideas for filling up empty sections on the portal:


 * Life in Iran (article on culture,arts,cuisine, etc.)
 * Selected Iranian
 * Quote
 * "In the spotlight" <- article about something in news

Let's try and make it a featured portal. deeptrivia (talk) 00:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:History of Iran
Islamic republic of Iran is listed under 'Empires of Iran'! this was pointed out when the Persian empire article was put up for 'featured articles'.. I think it needs a little fixing. --Kash 15:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

What needs to be done?
I'm willing to participate in this project and currently I'm disambiguating links to Persian. Could someone let me know what needs to be done in this project? Mahanchian 19:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Getting Iran featured
Should we address all the issues and try again? deeptrivia (talk) 23:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I think user:wikiacc is working on that one.--Zereshk 01:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

History stub
Do we need another page for Iran history stubs? I found a number of them which I addedd to. Mahanchian 23:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Heja Helweda, Diyako, Aucaman
These three users are on some sort of anti-Iranian crusade vandalizing all the Iranian and Persian related articles. We need to keep an eye on their " edit activities" as their intentions is not sincere but merely for the purpose of propagating false information.

Iran featured?
Could we set a goal of this project as getting Iran to featured status? The original FAC nomination mentioned this WikiProject, and the article being featured on the main page would be a huge boon to Iran-related topics and certainly make Wikipedia a "premier resource" on Iran. (I am currently soliciting feedback; if there are no significant objections I will add it to the project page.) --Wikiacc (talk) 23:05, 10 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Done. --Wikiacc (talk) 22:08, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Userboxes
Made these three userboxes, don't really know what to do with them, i use them in my own page, feel free to use them as well. --Darkred 22:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)







Nevermind these 3, i put the boxes in the article page, achaemenid and parthian --Darkred 11:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Question
Is this wikiproject just for the English section, because if it's not I have noticed that the persian or farsi wikipedia doesn't have that many articles and it's ranked 38th out of all the wikipedias; very disappointing.

Can we possibly add that to our goals; to expand on the farsi wikipedia as well and maybe bring up the quality of those wikis (some of the main farsi wikis including Iran are extreamly short and/or poorly written)? Pedram-e 03:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure, sounds good to me, unfortunatly I cannot write in Farsi very well.Khosrow II 04:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Neither can I, but I thought it would be good to let others who can right well in Farsi know. If we incourage them and do the same thing as we are doing for the English articles it might actually work. Pedram-e 04:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

We need a list
We should make a complete list of all Iran related articles because I dont know all of them, and I'm sure others dont know all of them either. We need to have this list, so we can keep track of them and make sure they are all being watched. We also need this so that we can make sure that there arent any articles out there that we dont know about. For example, the Rasulzadeh article was full of anti Iranian propaganda till I came across it and fixed it.Khosrow II 15:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Try List of Iran-related topics. Cdamama 13:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Project Barnstars
I have started working on barnstars (see also country awards and Barnstars) to be given for work on this project. Do people like this idea? Cdamama 12:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Here is one: Cdamama 13:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Transliteration of Persian
I hope you won't mind a comment from a farangi.

This has attracted my attention since I had a look at the article on Abbas Kiarostami. According to the Manual of Style on Arabic (WP:MOS-AR), which "proposes a guideline regarding the transliteration from the Arabic alphabet to Roman letters in the English Wikipedia":


 * "All Arabic articles should have a lead paragraph which includes the article title, along with the original Arabic script and the strict transliteration in parenthesis, preferably in the lead sentence. The article title, the Arabic script, and the transliteration should all be in boldface."

"Arabic articles" in this sense refers to any articles whose subjects are normally written in the Arabic script, so it includes Persian articles. In fact there's a special section on Persian on that page.

What this boils down to is that inn the first sentence the subject of the article should appear both in the Persian/Arabic script and in a strict transliteration which would enable you to reconstruct the original spelling (the example they give is Rezvan (the spelling based on pronunciation, used in the title & in the bulk of the article), which in the first sentence of the article would appear as رضوان and Riḍwán.  Following this rule, the first mention of Kiarostami should use the strict spelling Kiyārustamī.  By the MOS rules, even the transliteration given for Mohammed Mossadegh is wrong: it should be Muḥammad Muṣaddeq, not Moḥammad Moṣadeq. Of course this only applies to the first sentence of the article, in which the Persian alphabet is used: in the rest of the article Mossadegh is fine.

All this may sound rather pedantic—but you should decide whether or not to follow the MOS recommendations (or possibly to change them). It's the only way to ensure some consistency & uniformity in Wikipedia. NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 11:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I suggest we make a new guideline Manual of Style (Persian) / WP:MOS-Pe. Sangak 12:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * If the transliteration used in the Mohammed Mossadegh article is wrong, that doesn't mean the MoS is wrong. Someone added it and he was wrong. If I was the one to add the transliteration, I would've used Muḥammad Muṣaddeq, since long sounds should use a u. The MoS, by the way, suggests the same (see Muhammad in the examples). I also just learned, if I'm not wrong, that the gh has a q sound in Persian, which is not true in Arabic; this makes even more convinced that a Persian MoS should be created. Good luck everyone! -  A nas   Talk? 17:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

New geography stub templates
Due to the large number of geography stubs for Iran (nearly 800), WikiProject Stub sorting has just created 30 new stub templates, one for each Iranian province, and almost all of the Iranian geography stubs have been sorted using these new templates. At the moment, all of the templates except the one for Tehran Province feed into the main - WP:WSS uses a minimum of 60 stubs as its benchmark for separate categories, and no individual province other than Tehran yet has 60 geography stubs. When each province reaches 60 stubs, it is likely that a separate category will be created for it. It is also possible that the three Khorasan provinces (which were historically one province until fairly recently) may be grouped together in one stub category, to reduce the size of the main stub category. A full list of the templates (most of which are simply in the form ProvinceName-geo-stub) can be seen at the top of. Please address any enquiries on this, or requests for individual categories, to WikiProject Stub sorting. We hope you find the new stub templates of use to your project! Grutness...wha?  10:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Historical Provinces of Iran
Guys, I'm trying to make a template with a list of the historical provinces of Iran by period: Please help out.

I'm thinking something like this but with the Achaemenid Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanid Empire, Safavids, Qajars, etc...Azerbaijani 01:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

=Requests for attention=

Urgent Articles in need of attention
For now, I think we should be working on the 10-12 provinces that are need of expansion. Ive listed them on the main page here.--Zereshk 00:15, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Im also thinking that Afghanistan's provincial pages also need help. After all, Afghanistan, Azarbaijan, and the Central Asian Republics are all cultural satellites of Iran.--Zereshk 23:01, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Economy of Iran
The Economy of Iran article needs to be formatted and then expanded. Any help would be appreciated. AucamanTalk 20:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Persian vs. Iranian
Could you, if you will, please have a look into the following dispute on the Zoroastrian talk page.

Talk:Zoroastrianism

Thanks in advance. Str1977 10:02, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Fazlollah Zahedi
Could somebody please take a look at Fazlollah Zahedi, as the story of the coup appears to be at odds with what is said elsewhere (see Talk:Fazlollah Zahedi). Also, I'm surprised there isn't an article on the coup itself (I suppose Operation Ajax comes close). Rd232 talk 10:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Im not competent to write on that topic. I know nothing about it. Unfortunately.--Zereshk 22:02, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Iran on IDRIVE
I'm considering putting Iran on the Article Improvement Drive to help get it featured in a more timely fashion--plus it'll be improved by editors who may not usually be around the Iran corner of Wikipedia. Soliciting feedback… --Wikiacc ¶ 22:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Good idea to me.--Zereshk 04:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Al-Khwarizmi
Someone please check this out: Talk:Al-Khwarizmi. An editor is insisting on removing all statements pointing to the Persian origin of Al-Khwarizmi, who he claims is an Arab in every way. Can someone cite a good reference? Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 15:25, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Rumi is being peer reviewed
Please go through the article, and suggest how it can be improved further to raise it to featured status. I've put it on peer review: Peer review/Jalal al-Din Muhammad Rumi/archive1. Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 18:17, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Help!
Can someone write this in text (Farsi script) for me? I am assuming it reads:


 * Mun tu shudam tu mun shudi,mun tun shudam tu jaan shudi
 * Taakas na guyad baad azeen, mun deegaram tu deegari

If not, please transliterate the above into Farsi script. Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 05:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Greater Iran
Please show your support on the Articles_for_deletion/Greater_Iran page. --Houshyar 18:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Barmakids
Hello! I've just been working on improving the Barmakids article, and created the pages for some members of that family: Khalid ibn Barmak, Yahya ibn Khalid, and Ja'far ibn Yahya.

If someone here could go over those articles and see if there's anything that needs fixing, it'd be swell. I'm particularly thinking of the question of Persian names and transliteration. Any kind of feedback welcome :) flammif e rtalk 13:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Request for expertise
On a lighter note... there is an article on Muhammad Iqbal that is currently up for an FA. Featured article candidates/Muhammad Iqbal

In the event that the usual FA reviewers lack the appropriate expertise, it would be of great help if someone familar with this person could participate in the article evaluation. Many thanks WikiProject Iran! --P-Chan 01:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

پیشنهاد مدیریت ایرانی در ویکی انگلیسی
پیشنهاد اقدام برای مدیرکردن یکی از فارسی زبانان را در ویکی پدیا انگلیسی دارم تا از پُو هایی علیه ایران و ایرانیان جلوگیری شود.

zandweb 15:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Please keep your communications confined to the English language. There is a Persian version of Wikipedia you know... --QajarCoffee 16:44, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * For the record, I am a Persian-speaking administrator in the English Wikipedia, and will be able to help Iranians (and others of course) in matters that need an administrator's attention. You can always leave a message on my talk page. roozbeh 05:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Farsi References
There are Farsi references in the article for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad which an Editor has placed the check tag on. I do not speak or read Farsi. Could some philanthropic soul who does read Farsi please check them? There are 15 of them total in the article. Vir4030 04:45, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I checked all of them, and they all check out. --( Aytakin ) | Talk 19:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Sassanid Church
due to the sassanid fear of christians durign their wars with christian rome/byzantium, they created a seperate church for the christians of their empire, which would make them more loyal. this church was seperate from that of the one in rome and the eastern orthodox church in byantium. i typed in persian church in wikipedia and it took me to the assyrian church page. should i create an article about the sassanid church?Iranian Patriot 15:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Personally I have not heard of this until now and I'll try to find some info so I can help too. --( Aytakin ) | Talk 04:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


 * ok, i created it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassanid_church#Bibliography


 * I would appreciate it if someone could create redirects to that page when someone types in Persian Chruch or Iranian Church, etc...Iranian Patriot 20:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


 * DONE! I made the redirects. --( Aytakin ) | Talk 21:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Persian people
There are some inconsistencies in the article. The article talks about all Persian-speaking people as an ethno-linguistic group. But, the population data is only about Persians of Iran. See the corresponding talk page. Jahangard 03:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think its about the Persian ethnic group, not the whole entire Persian speaking community, thus excluding Hazara's, Tajiks, etc...


 * IMHO, this should be moved to the article page Cdamama 14:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Cities and towns in Iran
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 16:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Basically, we need somebody experienced that knows about the incorporation status of cities and towns. Are they mingled (nearly the same)? That's what it looks like at Geography of Iran. Or are they separate, as in many eastern countries?
 * --William Allen Simpson 01:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Maps of Persian empires
Hello Members of Wikiproject Iran !

I'm making some maps of persian empires for the french WP, and i'd like to have a little help from you to translate those maps in english so you could use them in you articles too. So far, I've made 3 of them (sassanids, achaemenids and persia circa AD 1000), and I'm planning to do timurids, safavids, and qajars. All those maps are inspired from the world historical Atlas of G. DUBY (ISBN 2-03-521227-8), which is a reference here in france. For now, you can find them on commons: commons:Category:Maps of the Persian Empire. I've posted that help message without answer to Zereshk (but I don't know if is gone from WP or not) and Arad. Maybe it could be simpler if I tell more people about my project. You can join me on my Fabienkhan on the english WP, but I'm more active on the french WP here. If some of you could work too to translate the maps in persian, we could propose at least 3 languages for those maps on commons.

Felan tâ badan. Fabienkhan | talk page 19:00, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Reza Shah and Iran-Germany relations
Hello Wikiproject Iran !

I was reading yesterday the article Iran-Germany relations and I was quite surprised to see a few points which appear not to be accurate and anachronic (germany only became nazi in 1933):
 * "By the late 1920s, Reza Pahlavi openly began advocating ties with Nazi Germany"
 * "The shah became a stalwart admirer of Hitler, Nazism and the concept of the Aryan master race. He also sought the Nazis' help in reducing British petro-political domination."
 * "So intense was the shah's identification with the Third Reich that in 1935 he renamed his ancient country Iran, which in Persian means 'Land of the Aryans' and refers to the Proto-Indo-European lineage that Nazi racial theorists and Persian ethnologists cherished."

I feel there's like a problem in this article. If someone could reviem it and change to accurate situation at that time, I would be grateful, I'm too busy for now with giving fr:relations franco-iraniennes a FA status on the french WP. Thanks a lot !! Fabienkhan | talk page 12:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Afsharid Dynasty
Can we concider adding the Afsharid dynasty to the expansion list. It's in a serious need of developement, and it has not had any attention payed to it for quit a long time; it is also a stub. Pedram-e 04:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Iran industries
The two biggest industries/companies in Iran have very poor articles. Those companies are Iran Khodro and Iran Air.

Can someone check these wikis out and see what needs to be done? thanx Pedram-e 23:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Removal of Good Article
Under the good article section of the WikiProject Iran, History of Baku is listed (and is the only article listed), but after looking at it, it has been removed from the good articles list.

Because of this I have added it to the Top Priority list. Pedram-e 23:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Reliable sources
I read some of the articles which relate to this project. Unfortunately even the main articles like Iran are full of text without source. So I propose introducing reliable sources in different issues to members of this project.--Sa.vakilian 07:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Painful mistake !
I've no idea who and when first named it "Iraq" but s\he absolutely made a painful mistake, these two country are fundamentally different, Iran and Iraq are not related as non-middle easterns (may) think, I think as described here: Eraq, Iraq should change its latin name, and we've to start this issue, I don't know how, but I'm definitly sure that, this's similarity is painful for everybody who knows even a little about Iran(Persia)'s glorious identity. Sasanjan 18:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

2,500 Year Celebration
We should create an article for the 2,500 Year Celebration of persian history. This was a great landmark and I think it is quit important. Anythoughts? Pedram-e 01:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I've been thinking the same too. I have lots of info, pics anf videos about the topic. I have also the video of Mohammad Reza Shah's historic tribute to Cyrus the Great at the celebrations. We should make it. --( Aytakin ) | Talk 16:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Iranian horse article needs you.
Unfortunately, our darkness-follower neighbours have been stolen another Persian heritage, our horses !. Yes excatly beside trying to steal our scientists, our Persian Gulf, our poets, they still want more, Arabian horse article is based on NOTHING but Persian horse. So I've created Iranian horse article, and I'm so ashamed why other Iranians didn't care it before me, anyway, I'm too busy to expand it, it's you who I expect help from, please find more references, more pictures (e.g. from here ), more content for this article and meanwhile care about vandalism.Sasanjan 11:00, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Iranian horse articles deleted because of copyright issue, I'll solve this problem, you just try to find more content ... thanks ...Sasanjan 11:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Persian arts template
There is a mistake in the. Folklore is linked to Persian mythology, but it's wrong. Folklore contains songs, dances, tales and many other things and it's not equal to mythology.--Accessible 07:58, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think we should make an article about Iranian Folklore.--Accessible 08:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Mohsen Sazegara
I stumbled across the article on Mohsen Sazegara and noticed it needed some work. I gave it a thorough rewrite, and was hoping someone could take a look at the article. Iran is not my area of expertise, and I'm hoping to get some feedback on the work I did to the article. Thanks. Pepsi2786 11:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup & clarification
Under "Islamic Revolution and Contemporary Iran"

Can someone look at the 2 segments in [brackets] below and

Clean up what must be an unfinished edit of the phrase below:

Women, African Americans and one hostage diagnosed with multiple sclerosis were soon released.[In contrast U.S. blocked Despite attempts] made by the administration of US President Jimmy Carter at negotiation and rescuing the remaining hostages through such methods as Operation Eagle Claw, Iran refused to release them and threatened to put the hostages on trial for espionage.

And clarify - or just eliminate this one:

However, this exchange never took place, and after 444 days of captivity, embassy employees were finally allowed to leave Iran and return to the United States on the basis of Algiers declaration [in which U.S. hasn't released the properties of Iran].


 * IMHO, this should go under the article page.

Take a look at this article
Although it talks little about Iran it mentions some very important points relevant with Iran. There is also one interesting part about why and how tea was introduced to Iran/Persia

The War in Afghanistan: Drugs, Money Laundering and the Banking System http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NAZ20061017&articleId=3516

Persian Empire Provinces
I was wondering if this wikiproject group could start on creating the Persian Empire Provinces page and created a page for each province, similar to Roman province with all of its provinces. Chaldean 04:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Iranian Navy
Could someone please upload the ensign, jack, or emblem of the Iranian Navy? Thanks!  Bl a  st  31.03.07 1928 (UTC)

Norouz / Nawruz
A move request here about whether Norouz or Nawruz is the better title has stalled. Please give reasons for and against each title there. The move has been re-listed at WP:RM and will remain open for at least 5 days from now. --Stemonitis 08:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

to-do list
Please will you add a section for on the to-do list on the front page? Chris 21:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Eyes are needed
at Iran National Science Foundation to check for tone and style. Thanks in advance. TomStar81 (Talk) 07:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Ahwaz territory
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ahwaz territory. There are question about the truthfulness of the article and whether such a territory exists. I am hoping that those who monitor this page would consider participating in the Ahwaz territory deletion review to shed some light on whether the Ahwaz territory in fact exists. -- Jreferee    t / c  17:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

=Vandalism=

Your comments would be appreciated
Systematic vandalism on Iran-related articles reported: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Aucaman_and_User:Heja_helweda_and_User:Diyako

Your comments would be appreciated

Persian Empire
Please be aware that the article Persian Empire is being regulary vandalized by an unregistered user (see the various ip addresses). The edits appear to be designed to undermine the idea of Iran being a continuous nation or civilization. Here is an example of one of the edits:
 * Successive states in ancient Iran are collectively mislabeled the Persian Empire by some Western historians regardless of the fact that succesive states had little of the continuity that would be ascribed to a singular state; the language, forms of government, state religion, military culture, capital city and economic system changed every time a new centralizing authority arose upon the Iranian plateau.'

The editor is most likely attempting to create a pretext for seperatism. --Houshyar 04:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Based on the edits, I believe that the ip vandal is Bockspur. --Houshyar 05:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Heja and Diyako's attacks
In light of the above and recent occurences, the way to deal with these people is to take them to ArbCom. I think we have a case to ban them from Iranian articles based on their obsession with dismantling Iranian articles. We did this once with another user. He was banned permanently from editing specific articles.--Zereshk 00:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Heja and Diyako must be banned
I agree with the decision to refer them to ArbCom. They must not be allowed to continue their lies and propoganda. They have never posted anything factual. They just post their own opinions and that is unacceptable.

Iranian Wikipedians' Notice Board (WatchDog)
Please bookmark this page, for daily updates on the status of the Iran-related articles. Read notices posted by others or add your own notice by updating "Urgent view". --ManiF 15:52, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

User Deyako is further attacking Iranian articles
See his webpage about his Farsi comments. Someone get Admin involved with him. Also he is vandalising the Kurdish article saying the Kurdish flag is criminal in Iran and using random/fake webpages. They say nothing about flags. See his talk page and also the Kurdistan article. I clearly warned the editors on the fake sources and fabrication. ADMIN NEEDED. 69.196.139.250 02:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Watch Dog: All Editors if you wan this anti-Iranian cartel busted read my talk page
Read my talk user:Manik666 page and the Kurdistan talk page and archieves and you will have user:Diyako busted and proof that Heja and Acuman are biased have an anti-Iranian agenda. Go to my talk page and read Harassment. Manik666 05:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Articles on ziyarat and ziyaret
MPatel and I have been working on articles on ziyarat and ziyaret, or Muslim pilgrimage and places of pilgrimage. Help is requested on ziyarat, to explain the usual procedures at shrines, especially Shi'a shrines, and on ziyaret to get a list of pilgrimage sites in Iran. PD and CC pictures would be particularily welcome. This is a chance to educate people in the beauties of Islamic and Persian architecture and gardens. Zora 13:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Acuman trying to create edit wars between Iranians and Arab editors
Here is a direct quote: '''Watchlist this article and follow some of the things in the discussion page. Same with Persian Gulf naming dispute. AucamanTalk 06:21, 31 March 2006 (UTC)'''


 * Also here quotes by user:Ahwaz

'''If you get into any dispute with the Persian chauvinist gang over content, they will not compromise and start making allegations, the favourite being: anti-Iranian, anti-Persian, Jew, Israeli, separatist, terrorist, "want to break up Iran", and all that crap. They are free to say this without any admin interference. When I tell someone to blow their nose, there is a big furore and the admins take action. Wikipedia is a pile of rubbish and the people that run it are donkeys. The code of conduct is there for powerful gangs to impose their agendas. If five people are against two or three, it does not matter how many times you revert they will always have their point of view imposed on articles. Why spend time on this nonsense? Even the media is now showing up Wikipedia's failings. No serious academic is involved (oh, there's the "genius" Zereshk, who knows everything about nuclear engineering, quantum physics, architecture, philosophy, poetry, religion, linguistics, medicine - you name it, he is the self-appointed expert - and he still finds time to run edit wars and insult people). Ask yourself why. Because no serious academic takes it seriously. It is rubbish.--Ahwaz 11:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)'''

69.196.139.250 00:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Look at the Disfigurement of Iranian History
Are these okay edits on the part of this user?





The Azari-related articles are all massivly being deviated. Everyone should get proactive. 72.57.230.179

Certain members of Wikiproject Azeri are Raping the Iranian articles
Here is an example; on the Safavid talk page that was made by Iranian Editors, the label of this group is missing, but the Wikiproject Azeri label has been placed instead as shown here []. In other articles they try and erase any trace of Azarbaijani links with Iran and try and push an agenda where Azaris are disciminated against in Iran. They will attack other editors if they say that Shah Ismail I is an Iranian. They say that Azarbaijanis want to seperate from Iran and so on. I have tried to take this in good faith, but they are now disrupting numerous Iranian articles. 69.196.164.190

Khorramshahr
The Khorramshahr page has been vandalized. An important city like this needs a more correct and respectful page. Nokhodi 04:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for informing me. I have corrected it and moved the page back to khorramshahr, where it belongs.Khosrow II 05:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

=Don’t Kurds have a place on Wiki Iran?= Why there is nothing about the Kurds on the Open Tasks? Kiumars 14:41, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Because some self proclaimed Kurdish users insist that Kurds must be separate, and are not Iranian.--Zereshk 16:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

well, considering that most kurds do live outside of iran, it does makes sense that they have their own wikiproject. however, iranian kurdistan should also be represented in wikiproject iran.Iranian Patriot 16:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

No kurds in Iran damnit. Get out. RUX

=Political Issues=

The March to War with Iran
Look at these; they are well documented. This is the place to keep your eye on... http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=newsHighlights&newsId=18 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=N20060921&articleId=3299

Today the Change definitions and set the Grounds for Tommrows attack on Iran and the Middle East
All Iranian related articles are being attacked by user:Acuman, user:Diyako, and others with objectives very similar to the Israeli governments. Saying Kurds and Jews are one!? Saying Iranian is not an ethnic group!? Saying Khuzistan wants independence!? Saying Balouch are not Iranian!? Saying Kurds are ashamed to be called Iranian!?

Protect the truth becuase today the attack defintions to set the grounds for tommrows wars and problems. 69.196.139.250 02:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Conversation on Nowruz and User: Diyakos claims that Nowruz is not Iranian

 * Exactly, it shouldn't all be about the Persians. That's why I changed the introduction at Norouz to make it acceptable to all groups, including the Kurds. I got it from here. Let me know what you think. --Khoikhoi 21:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Would you like to do the merge? I feel that if I do it I'll mess it up. What do you think of the new intro? --Khoikhoi 21:15, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but I don't think the Iranian editors will agree with you on this. I changed the intro to include the Kurds, so what makes the Kurdish version so different that it needs its own article? The Russian version of Christmas doesn't have it's own article. --Khoikhoi 21:25, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The russion version of christmas has not its own article has nothing to with the Kurdish Newroz article. Kurdish Newroz is different than Farsi Norouz and deserves its own article. also farsi users have their own pov who may claim Adam and Eve were farsi or as they say Iranian. If you still think the POV of some farsis is more important for you then you can nominate the Kurdish Newroz for deletion. Sure there are more neutral wikipedians than you farsis.Diyako Talk + 21:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * But you haven't explained to me what makes the Kurdish version so different. Please do. And why do you keep calling them Farsis? Are you aware that this term is deprecated because it has Arab origins? It seems that you're doing it to provoke them. Have you seen the website No more "FARSI" !!! ? --Khoikhoi 21:33, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I looked at the article and I couldn't find it. Secondly, in the English language we use "Persians" to refer to them, not "Farsis". And what do you mean you know me? --Khoikhoi 21:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * There was a warning issued about the use of "Farsi" and I think you are trying to be disrespectual and provactive with the term Farsi and Farsi Noruz. COnsider this a warning. Secondly there is no such thing as Farsi Noruz. There is only one Noruz which is celebrated by all Iranian people and people of Iranian culture. You stated Nevruz was similar to Noruz. NO IT IS NORUZ, just in another language. 69.196.139.250 21:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm neither Turkmen nor Kazak, I do not knwo much on the turkic nevruz but that turkish cultural source states shows how they are different. their only similarity is that they are on beging of spring.


 * Also the word Farsi is more accurate than Persian. Farsi is the name of modern persians i provided a dzen of sources in the talk page of Persian people.Diyako Talk + 22:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC).Diyako Talk + 21:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Who am I then? Send me an email. --Khoikhoi 21:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Nevruz is Noruz just a different langauge. And all the states you cliamed have registered to have it recognized along with Iran and Iraq (representing Kurdistan) as one clebration under the name Nowruz to UNESCO. There is no need for this article. Becuase the subject people's official governments recognize it as being the one and same as Nowruz, which it is in relaity, and have made join motions with Iran on the issue.

Here are your verifications.


 * http://www.payvand.com/news/05/apr/1107.html

69.196.139.250 22:31, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Anglo-American Forces and Israel are fostering these artificual problems in Iran

 * All the beheadings, murder of foreign reporters, mosque bombings, and terrorist activities in Iraq are committed or sanctioned by Anglo-American occupation forces or Israel. Israel is very much so involved in North Iraq that is why there is new claims that Kurds and Jews are one and the same race by Israelis. This has resulte din an alliance between a very small minority of Iraqi Kurds and Israelis. Connect the dots with what is happening from Iraq to Iran.

Here is proof:

British Special Forces Caught Carrying Out Staged Terror In Iraq?: Media Blackout Shadows Why Black Op Soldiers Were Arrested: USA, Information Liberation []

Britain "apologizes" for terrorist act in Basra; Rescue of SAS men who were planning to place bombs in Basra City Square: Global Research.ca, Center for Research on Globalization []

The next link is photographic evidence taken by Iraqi Police, before British Military attacked police station and freed the British terrorist operatives. []

Caught red-handed: The Raw Story, North America []

Troops free SAS men from jail: The Telegraph, United Kingdom []

Iran accuses UK of bombing link: BBC, United Kingdom []

Basra council severs relations with British: Daily Star, Lebanon []

Basra Council Cutting Ties with British: China Radio International (CRI), China []

69.196.139.250 04:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

What I wrote to user:Aucman in concerns to manifest indication of his anti-Iranian objectives
It is sad but Iranians and other Middle Easters are being targeted by editors supporting an aggresive Israeli drive and policy of creating war in the Middle East and region. User:Acuman tried to repress and hide what I said because it exposed the ugly nature of his objectives.The following is a series of messages I posted to this user who is editing facts about Iranian leaders and clerics and Iranian culture and Iranian history. Trying to paint a picture of Iran in the worst way and cause discord between Iranians. He has claimed that Kurds are not Iranians or that Aryan is a fictional and un-academic term. Anways please read;

I notice that you everything you work on is related to Persians and other groups problems with those issues
May I ask you how you are an expert on such topics as scholars from the Middle East and their biographies or the Persian Gulf, and Kurds? 69.196.139.250 22:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, ya I also cited your statments about the fact that you wanted to cite that certain Muslim clerics have okayed sex with animals and children. How do you justify this statement and thought and even treat it like it could be true?69.196.139.250 22:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * IN reply to you this is what I observe, alongside others....
 * These are your direct quotes on the Khoemini discussion page ;

'''I had seen some literature out there suggesting that Khomenini approved of sex with children and animals. Now someone has added some of these claims into this article. I'm not going to take them out, but the article is going to receive a dispute tag until these information are verified. AucamanTalk 04:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)'''

Here is a direct quote from you to user:Pecher; '''I've added some stuff about Khomeini's views on non-Muslims, but people might try to take them out. Could you keep an eye on that article as well? AucamanTalk 14:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)''' This is verified on user:Pecher's talk page.

What is all the interest you and Pecher have on Khoeimini and other Iranian clerics. Also your articles on Ahmadenajid all show a disturbing trend that you are trying to paint some sort of picture. It is like connect the dots.

Here are a list of articles you have worked on;


 * Human rights abuses by the Iraqi insurgency
 * Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel
 * Controversies surrounding Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
 * International reactions to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy
 * Opinions on the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy
 * Greater Middle East
 * Turkish Kurdistan

Major contributions

These are the pages you have made major edits to (or am working on right now):
 * People of Turkey
 * Kurdish people
 * Turkish people
 * Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
 * Ayatollah Khomeini
 * Ayatollah Khamenei
 * Middle East

Wow human rights abuses in the Iraqi insurgency! Very odd and specific topic! Ahmadinejad and Israel! The Mohammed cartoons. All your edits really benefit in making Israel look good compared to the rest of the Middle East. Answer me this are you an Israeli citizen too? I think you are on an agenda. All your edits against Iranians (from Kurds to Persians,etc.) since Iran is seen as the biggest threat to Israel and all your other edits in the Arab fields. Also trying being a force in tension between Arab and Iranian and Turkish editors. All at the benefit of Israel.

69.196.139.250 02:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

==Watch this user he is mobilizing Arabs, Iranians, Turks, and others against each other. Anyway that he can demean Iran and the Middle East he does.

69.196.139.250 04:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)