Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration/statementbyRTG

Confused
I am confused, which problem is this statement referring too Gnevin (talk) 00:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think he is making a general comment. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  19:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I am sorry, I did not realise any talks had went on here. This statement is about the problem that some people consider the name of an Irish state to be some sort of confusion. Note, if you like, Union persuaded Irish are the first to say that Irish are this side of the border and the first to speak about a lot of stuff BUT why are they not all chiming in previous discussions to say that the word Ireland is somehow specially entwined with that state? Because the opposite is true. The state is entwined. Knowing a thing or two, it's a sort of a healthy confusion but wrong anyway. :D I want to point out something that hasn't been pointed out a lot so I chose this point that.., if the consistency of the state be the deciding factor, as manys an editor wishing the Ireland article to revolve around state says, the state constitutes the island of Ireland to be more prominent than itself. Northern Ireland has always matched the south in prominence stride for sride until the "height of the troubles" during and after which the peaceful south has, like Britain seen a more minor side. If your fame is troubled you will be infamous instead which is the case today for the north. I would suggest that there will be no state for a long time giving the opinion that their use of the name Ireland or their Irishness any way supercedes the north. If that is a fact, it should render any discussion that the state is a more prominent Ireland as defunct and destructive to the states wishes. The state is a part of Ireland and the biggest part therof. On the day the state called Ireland becomes Ireland I will buy a hat and post you a picture of me eating it. Leave it alone as regards what it is. I will have a go at the equal prominence of the north if anyone says it's not true. ~ R . T . G  03:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)