Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Italy/Archive 8

""Il teatro comico"" by Carlo Goldoni
I translated the Italian wiki on this play by Goldoni, but it still looks like a stub. Please add to it as you can.

Costa Concordia shipwreck
The cruise ship Costa Concordia has run aground and capsized off the coast of Tuscany. This was the largest ship ever built in Italy. Story is likely to be a major one in the Italian press. Assistance from members of this WikiProject in updating the article from Italian sources would be greatly appreciated. Mjroots (talk) 07:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Pope John Paul II article improvement
The Pope John Paul II article is on peer review. If anyone would like to help improve the article please pop by :-) -- Marek  .  69   talk  18:50, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Italy will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Italy's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Relations with San Marino
Could someone create a stub either at San Marino–Italy relations or at Italy–San Marino relations? To my surprise, neither one exists. Nyttend (talk) 03:36, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Altare
Two things need to be modified in the stub on Altare: first of all, the name does not mean "high place" in standard Italian, nor does it mean anything close to "high place" in the Altare's local language. It is true that "alto" means "high" in standard Italian and there is a resemblance between the two terms, but the etymology remains unclear. Second, it is claimed that the inhabitants were of Jewish origin. This is completely unproved. Kurinsky draws that conclusion in one of his works. However, it remains entirely hypothetical. I am not going to change the entire stub right now, but please mention other people's opinions too. A good starting point would be to look at the Italian article and translate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Badano5 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

BLP Daniele Luttazzi
As an article about a living person who is involved in some controversial areas, I would request that some people who can read Italian keep an eye on the article and the sourcing used.

Thanks! -- The Red Pen of Doom  12:53, 5 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I have added the article to my watchlist and went over the current content for an overall preliminary check. Although it will take a bit longer to check the article against the actual content of each referenced source, I can say that I see nothing problematic for the time being. Moongateclimber (talk) 09:41, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Translation of "Democrazia cristiana"
With Aldo Moro referenced from the main page, I've been looking through a number of articles that make reference to the old Democrazia cristiana party. I'm wondering if a standard translation should be established. There is no doubt that the most literal translation is Christian Democracy, but I do not believe this is the name usually used in English-language writings on the subject. I think they are usually called the Christian Democrats or Christian Democratic Party. My sense is that that would be a better name for English-language Wikipedia. --Trovatore (talk) 07:54, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I am no conoisseur of the english-language literature on Italian politics, but I find it hard to think that any translation that isn't a literal translation (i.e., "Christian Democracy") could make for a better "standard". Expressions like "Christian democrats" are likely to be common to refer to members of the party, but do not qualify as options when it comes to the name of the party (much like "Communists" is not another name, much less the most commonly used name, for the Communist Party).  In other words: while I would welcome any "standard name" that can be identified in the english literature on the subject, I doubt such a standard will come up, or be different from the obvious "Christian Democracy", especially if you distinguish casual references to party members from the proper name of the party itself.  As a curiosity, members of D.C. are not called "Christian democrats" in Italian; there is an ad-hoc portmanteau name for them, namely "democristiani" ("demochristians"). Moongateclimber (talk) 14:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I suspect that such a standard will in fact come up, and will be Christian Democratic Party. I believe this is the standard name in English. --Trovatore (talk) 16:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * All right, let us use the name Christian Democratic Party then. It is quite a literal translation and makes English-speakers understand the political position of that party (more or less, of course: it is said to have covered the entire political spectrum, from leftists social Christians to most conservative politicians). --Vadsf (talk) 16:22, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Italian military sports bodies
I'm working on the articles of this title. If someone wanted to collaborate on writing them. --Kasper2006 (talk) 16:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Can someone start help?
I am trying to get Jayne Mansfield to an FA status. Can someone help adding the Italians awards she received? The article also needs to have articles created for Gazzetta del Popolo and Il Giornale d'Italia. At least two stubs. Can someone help? Aditya (talk • contribs) 20:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Augusto Pierantoni
I have just created this article from the german version of the article using Google Translate. I came across him as a subject because of my sporadic involvement with international law articles, as he was one of the founders of the Institut de Droit International. He also was professor of constitutional law, senator, and a representative for Italy on talks regarding the Suez Canal. I hope someone from this WP project and/or the task force on Italian Historical States can improve it. Amongst other things, I did not add a place or day of birth, because the German and Italian articles disagreed on this. I might have just gone with the Italian article, but it was extremely sparse. Another article that may be of interest for creation, would be Grazia Mancini, or Grazia Pierantoni-Mancini, who married Pierantoni, but is listed as a poet of note in the German wikipedia. IMHO (talk) 22:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Pasquale Stanislao Mancini
Also, please look at this 19th century subject as well. Again, my interest was in his involvement with international law (another founder of the Institut de Droit International), but his artcile indicates he was involved in a number of posts, including Minister of Public Instruction and Minister of Justice. The article also indicates he was involved with preparation for Italian leglislative uniification. This WP's banner is not yet on the talk page. IMHO (talk) 22:33, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Giants of Monte Prama
Can someone help? Thanks --Shardan (talk) 21:14, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

List of most popular sports in Italy
I think that we need to improve the article Sport in Italy. Expecially regarding the section of any single sport. --Kasper2006 (talk) 07:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

it.wiki
While fixing Mu Canis Majoris, Kheider noticed that the Italian article Mu Canis Majoris was dealing with the wrong star (MU Canis Majoris instead of &mu; Canis Majoris), can someone ask Italian Wikipedia to fix that? Renaming it to MU Canis Majoris would solve the problem. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It has been done yesterday. Vadsf (talk) 01:02, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 04:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Perth requested-move notification
A requested move survey was started at Talk:Perth_(disambiguation), which proposes to move:
 * Perth → Perth, Western Australia
 * Perth, Scotland → Perth, Perthshire
 * Perth (disambiguation) → Perth

Background: There was a previous requested-move survey which ran from late May to mid June. There was a great deal of controversy surrounding the closure and subsequent events, which involved a number of reverts and re-reverts which are the subject of an ongoing arbitration case. There was a move review process, which was closed with a finding that the original requested-move closure was endorsed; however, the move review process is relatively new and untried. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 03:30, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Perth, Western Australia is simply absurd. --Kasper2006 (talk) 05:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The actual survey is at Talk:Perth_(disambiguation), you'd have to post there for your input to count. BTW, from your comment it sounds like you are actually opposing? — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 07:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

"Lega" templates nominated for deletion
FYI, Lega Romagna, Lega Sud Tirolo, Lega Umbria, Lega Liguria, Lega Trieste and 7 other similar templates have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the templates' entry on the Templates for discussion page. DH85868993 (talk) 06:20, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Passo Martino
There is a company which had its headquarters in Passo Martino, Catania. But I cannot find the village's article on the Italian or English wikipedia. Is it a frazione within Catania city? Or is it a settlement elsewhere in Catania Province? WhisperToMe (talk) 15:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Westerns
Well, it's not particularly well worded for non-userpages, but yeah, this WikiProject is now setup and still in the early stages of building its project area before user-participation can really begin to function. Anyone interested – Spaghetti Western fans – please feel free to join. Note, this project not only covers film and TV, but Western novels, comics, actors, directors and authors, etc who make the fictional-Wild West possible. Thanks,  Ma &reg;&copy; usBr iti sh {chat} 01:47, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Italian caste?
Editors on this WikiProject may be interested in the ongoing RfC on Talk:Caste. The article lists Italy as a region that has historically had a caste system, along with other countries, claims which some editors have found controversial. Editors critical of the current article have argued that the article has become a WP:COATRACK used to push the view that the caste system is not linked to Hinduism or India, while others have defended the article's portrayal of the caste as a universal phenomenon. The input of editors familiar with Italian history would be most helpful in this discussion. Was Italian society a caste? Is that a mainstream view and should italy be listed?--Ninthabout (talk) 14:38, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

National symbols of Italy
In this article National symbols of England, are "food and drink" symblos tea and fish and chips. Correct. Do you think the same way can be considered italian symbols caffè espresso or cappuccino? In addition, the Vespa and the Ferrari are italian symbols? --Kasper2006 (talk) 22:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Republic of Venice
Should articles about Republic of Venice be categorized within this WikiProject although some of the territories or events related to Republic of Venice are out of current borders of Italia?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:27, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think so; lots of territories related to Kingdom of Sardinia are actually out of current borders of Italy, same thing for Republic of Venice: both of their history and culture are integrant part of history of Italy. --Shardan (talk) 17:36, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Translating Scipione Piattoli into Italian
Perhaps somebody could translate this new GA into at least a stub on it wiki? Also, a Polish historian quoted there mentions "two Italian monographs (by A.D. Ancon and G. Bozzolato)". Perhaps you could find out their full citation information and add them to further reading? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:03, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Merge with Wikipedia talk:Italian Wikipedians' Notice Board
I suggest that Wikipedia talk:Italian Wikipedians' Notice Board be discontinued and redirected here. We have done it years ago for Poland, and I've seen it done for other regional noticeboards. In essence, those two foras are about the same topic, and having them split only makes each less active. If I or anyone else want to contact editors interested in Italy, we have to post in two places, or risk our post being not seen by some. I suggest you remedy this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Input sought at Roman Empire
At Roman Empire, we are seeking opinions about how to fill the "type of government" slot in the infobox. There is a proposal to label it an empire. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:31, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

About Giants of Monte Prama
Hello, I would like to further improve the article on the Giganti translated from it.Wiki. I would appreciate some advice and guidance on wikification, notes and references as well as improvements to the text and the style. Thanks a lot--Shardan (talk) 11:06, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Sources for Acqui Award of History
It seems likely that there should be some sources for this award, but I am not finding any in English, and I cannot read Italian (other than pizza). If someone could help get some sources for this article, it would be appreciated. Grazie! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  20:54, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

The two "Monte Cavallo"s
I understand there is a little town named "Monte Cavallo" in central Italy which has a low priority wikipedia stub. However, "Monte Cavallo" was also the medieval name for colle Quirinale in Rome and the wikipedia article on "Quirinal Hill" has a couple of interesting and useful paragraphs on this factoid. Unfortunately, the "Quirinal Hill" article's reference to "Monte Cavallo" links to the obscure little town stub rather than to the (as yet unwritten) article on the alternate name of the Quirinale and the famous equestrian statuary (still standing in Piazza del Quirinale) that justified that name from the Middle Ages through the 19th C. I should greatly appreciate a quick link edit on the "Quirinal Hill" article by one of you experts rather than me stumbling about messing things up.Westernesse (talk) 17:35, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Daniela Masseroni
With the completion of the biography of this athlete, all the biographies of athletes (including team sports) that have won 549 medals at the Olympic Games for Italy are present. We are the first in the world to succeed in this business, before it.wikipedia and before Maya. --Kasper2006 (talk) 16:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)