Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Jacksonville/Archive 1

WP:JX is up
Wikiproject: Jacksonville is up and running! Post comments and discussions here.

Templates
Jaxfl, those are some spiffy templates! Thanks! :-) JaxDaily 16:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Just trying to improve the project page. Jaxfl 16:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Higher learning projects
Let's set some goals for improving the pages on Jacksonville's local colleges and universities. Basically for (relatively speaking) major schools we have UNF, JU, FCCJ, EWC, Jones College and Trinity Baptist College. My recommendations would be...


 * UNF - More pictures to show a few major buildings, the landscape, etc. Possibly start a few sections about individual colleges and go from there.  The article is already well-organized, but needs more substance.
 * JU - Basically the same as JU.
 * FCCJ - Needs organization more than anything. Also, we need pictures of the far-flung campuses, such as NAS and Cecil.
 * EWC - Needs both pictures, and enough substance to require organization.
 * Jones College - Same as EWC
 * Trinity Baptist College - Same as UNF; someone has done some good work on this, but it lacks any pictures or logos.

Since higher ed has so many components, improving these articles will add quite a bit of synergy to other areas. For example, the NAS and Cecil articles will automatically become better with the extra content and links, and we can take pictures for multiple articles at the same time. Many of the campuses also have programs that can be referenced in other areas - for example, expanding information on UNF's Fine Arts Building (and the jazz program) will provide a destination for references to arts in the main Jacksonville article, or help to justify a "Culture of Jacksonville" article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JaxDaily (talk • contribs) 05:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Include adjacent counties?
I don't want to be accused of Duval imperialism :) but would it be appropriate to add adjacent counties, some or all, to Project JAX? I was working on Nassau County, Florida and thought it might be a good way to attract attention to the article. -- Rob C. alias Alarob 01:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Our project page does state that we have have formed a project to better organize information in articles related to metropolitan Jacksonville. By definition, that means Duval, Clay, St. Johns, Nassau, and Baker. I see nothing wrong with doing this - if we're going to improve articles relating to the Jacksonville area, the surrounding counties probably should be included. Jaxfl 22:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Assessment?
Get ourselves onboard with WP:1?  T Rex  | talk  02:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Next Florida Meetup
Please feel free to discuss the next Florida meetup location(s) here.  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs   22:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

UNF
I've expanded the article to add a section for the library and added a photo. I'm going to add some more photos and get a picture of the Arena. Hopefully I'll have the colleges expanded soon. UNF has a page with facts and info on each. nichos

Maple Leaf (shipwreck)
Hey folks. This National Historic Landmark is south of Jax, but not accessible to the public. But there are a lot of artifacts from the ship are on display at the Museum of Science & History, according to this. If someone could maybe get shots of some of them and upload (to WikiCommons, pleeease), that would be loverly. Cheers! :) --Ebyabe (talk) 18:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Julington Creek, Florida and Julington Creek Plantation, Florida
I know that St. John's county is a little out of the scope of WP JAX, but I assume that someone here will have a better idea about this than I. While categorizing articles for Wikiproject Florida, I ran across these two articles, which appear to be about the same place, but I'm not sure, and finding reliable information is proving difficult. Are these two places the same, and should we merge them? If so, which is the proper target? Thanks in advance.  Horologium  (talk) 20:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
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Zoo
Does anyone have good quality non-copyright photos that could be used for the article on the Jacksonville Zoo? Also could we request it be given an importance rating and to see if it meets GA requirements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.229.67 (talk) 01:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Jacksonville
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Coordinators' working group
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Need to look at Timucua Tribal Group to add to List of Articles
There is a group the Native American Tribal Republic of Timucua that is claiming to be of Timucua heritage through their oral history and is seeking to gain recognition as a Timucua tribal group and to create an organization to preserve Timucua heritage. Their website is www.republicoftimucua.synthasite.com. You might want to check them out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.16.158.249 (talk) 20:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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The World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party
A requested move has been started at The World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, the current title of our article on the Florida-Georgia game. Interested editors should weigh in at Talk:The World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail party.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Added lots of photos, please check articles
Hi all, I added lots of photos but would like someone to check the articles to make sure I'm following the correct format. The pages I added the photos to are: I'll put up some Zoo photos as per request when I go there this summer:) I couldn't find the Klutho house, I'll make another attempt later. Thanks! Nichos (talk) 19:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Mount Zion AME Church (Jacksonville, Florida)
 * Plaza Hotel (Jacksonville, Florida)
 * Morocco Temple
 * Duval County Courthouse
 * Masonic Temple (Jacksonville, Florida)

Jaguars Article
I'm new to this Wikiproject, but I've been editing articles in relation to the Jaguars for some time now and have noticed that the main Jacksonville Jaguars article currently has no assessment of importance and is rated a start-class on the quality scale. May I suggest assigning it High importance and bumping it up to C-class? Thank you DragonFury (talk) 03:21, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with this and would recommend this action take place. --Ampersandestet (talk) 07:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Good point. I've assessed it as high importance, but I didn't change the quality rating. If someone else wants to change that by all means do so.--Cúchullain t/ c 20:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I think having 3 people agree on C-class is enough so I just changed it accordingly. DragonFury (talk) 17:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Article assessment
The Jacksonville articles by quality template is badly outdated; most stub & unassessed entries have not been looked at or updated since October 24, 2007. Dozens of articles have been improved beyond stub. I'm going to take a run through them and provide a current date and assessment, but I'm not going to rate importance. I would appreciate it if someone followed up and volunteered a second opinion. Thanks. Mgrē@sŏn 04:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Ortega is no longer a stub/new member!
Can an administrator remove the stub status? I have expanded that article significantly with pictures and paragraphs. I will work on other articles with which I am familiar later.

Also: please include me in your group. Username is jsimms3, I am very new to Wiki editing (this was my first time, and I am not a CS major so coding is basic for me). I grew up in Ortega and now attend college in Atlanta. If any Metrojacksonville members are here, Ennis Davis or anyone, please post some of your awesome pictures. For the Ortega article, I wanted to use your pictures for the town center buildings of Ortega, but could not due to permitting issues.

Submitted September 11, 2010

Jsimms3 (talk) 21:08, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Renaming some articles
I like the thought of describing Ortega and Avondale, etc as historic districts and labeling them as such and talking about their history, but can we rename the articles something along the lines of Ortega (neighborhood) or Ortega (Jacksonville) because nobody is going to see these articles if they are trapped in the title Ortega Historic District and cannot currently be googled easily.

If we want people checking out Jax stuff, we need to simplify articles and make sure they pull up on Google and Wikipedia easily. For instance, someone titled the William Waldorf Astor, 1st Viscount Astor page that, and it would be so much better and easier to find if it were titled simply William Astor or William Waldorf Astor, and then he can be talked about as the 1st Viscount Astor in the body.

Also, limiting the article to the name of "Ortega Historic District" limits the neighborhood boundary so much, that is it reasonable to talk about what's really Ortega? Having grown up in the neighborhood in a pre-war home, I am well adept to the history, but my life revolved around FYC and TCC and friends along the river and in Ortega Terrace, all of which are not really in the "historic district." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsimms3 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Jsimms3 (talk) 21:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe "Ortega" is called "Old Ortega Historic District" because that's how it's listed in the National Register of Historic Districts, part of the National Register of Historic Places. I think listing articles under how the subject appears in the National Register can be counterproductive, but it needs to be mentioned somewhere in the article. --Cúchullain t/ c 13:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Citation Question
Just noticed a citation stub requesting sources for Current Notable Residents of Ortega, and I inputted that data just like many other neighborhood Wiki articles have similar sections and I just know this information from growing up literally down the street from these people. It's fairly common knowledge, so how the heck do we cite this information? The Buckhead article includes Elton John as a resident (which is common Atl knowledge) and no citations, but I don't see any notes on that site about needing citations for that info.

Jsimms3 (talk) 22:17, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The standard inclusion criteria is verifiability, not truth. You need to find a reliable source discussing the material, or else it can't be included, as it would be your own research. Other articles also included uncited information, but that means that it ought to be corrected or removed.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Jacksonville articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release
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 * I like the articles chosen, but Jacksonville has so much more to it than just those things. How about the page for the Greater Jacksonville Metropolitan Area, St. Augustine, Florida, Ponte Vedra Beach, Jacksonville International Airport, Duval County, University of North Florida, Jacksonville University, etc etc.--Jsimms3 (talk) 21:47, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

A consideration for cross project consolidation of talk page templates
I have started a conversation here about the possibility of combining some of the United States related WikiProject Banners into WikiProject United States. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions please take a moment and let me know. --Kumioko (talk) 19:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Jacksonville Transportation Authority
I have updated the bus route information on the Jacksonville Transportation Authority page as the last batch was outdated (had routes listed from when FSCJ was still FCCJ). I will take a better focus on the page as it does need to be properly expanded. If there are any others that can contribute, that would be greatly appreciated. Ampersandestet (talk) 07:52, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next
Casliber recently posted a suggestion on the talk page for WikiProject United States about getting the US Wikipedians Collaboration page going again in an effort to build up articles for GA through FA class. See U.S. Wikipedians' notice board/USCOTM. After several days of work from him the page is up and ready for action. A few candidates have already been added for you to vote on or you can submit one using the directions provided. If you are looking for inspiration here is a link to the most commonly viewed articles currently under the scope of Wikiproject United States. There are tons of good articles in the various US related projects as well so feel free to submit any article relating to US topics (not just those under the scope of WPUS). This noticeboard is intended for ‘’’All’’’ editors working on US subjects, not just those under WPUS.

The next item I intend to start updating is Portal:United States if anyone is interested in helping. Again this is not specific to WPUS and any help would be greatly appreciated to maximize visibility of US topics. The foundation has already been established its just a matter of updating the content with some new images, biographies and articles. Please let leave a comment on the Portals talk page or let me know if you have any questions or ideas. --Kumioko (talk) 19:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Duval County Road 213 Proposed for Deletion
Not sure where else to post this discussion. This County Road is located in Jacksonville, I believe. Gamweb (talk) 20:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Florida Chapter? Jacksonville Chapter? North Florida Chapter?
Do we have enough active wikipedians in Florida to form a chapter? I've created an entry for Florida at the Wikimedia United States Chapters Council page. If a state-wide chapter will be too unwieldy, perhaps chapters based on the larger cities could be formed (i.e., South Florida, central Florida, northern Florida). -- Donald Albury 21:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd be interested in that. My only concern would be that a statewide chapter would be unweildy, and that local chapters might not have enough support.--Cúchullain t/ c 01:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There may not be enough of us to sustain a chapter. I'm willing to try, but we probably need at least 5 or 6 active members to keep a chapter functioning. -- Donald Albury 11:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Neighborhoods
Hey all, I've started a discussion at Talk:Neighborhoods of Jacksonville, Florida about reworking the article. Please weigh in.--Cúchullain t/ c 01:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion for WikiProject United States to support WikiProject Florida
It has been suggested that WikiProject Florida and some of its child projects might be inactive or semi active and it may be beneficial to add them to the supported projects list of WikiProject United States. After reviewing the project page and talk page of this project it appears that there are a few edits here and there but it seems to be fairly slow. Before taking action I wanted to solicit comments from the members of the project. --Kumioko (talk) 00:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Since there has been no comment on this proposal in 11 days I am going to go ahead and add it to the supported projects list of WPUS. --Kumioko (talk) 14:13, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Photo request
Is anyone interested in photographing the Winn-Dixie headquarters in Jacksonville, Florida?

They are at: Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 22:00, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 5050 Edgewood Court, Jacksonville, FL 32254 - See map

Requested move
I've started a move discussion that may be of interest to this project. It can be found at Talk:Alvin Brown (politician).--Cúchullain t/ c 21:54, 3 January 2012 (UTC)