Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Janet Jackson/Archive 1

Hey People!!!
OK, guys and gals, its here! Our first objectives are to recruit other editers and to tag all articles related to Janet. If you know anyone who might be interested send them that message I sent all of you. Really they should have an interest in Janet or Music in general. If you can think of any other Wikiprojects worth informing tell them too.

Secondly we must tag all articles relating to Janet. Albums, singles, tours, dvds, family members, sub articles (eg these), superbowl incident etc etc. If your not sure that an article should be in the project, dont tag it, instead bring it here for consensus.

To tag articles go to their talk page and copy this onto it. You should try to fill in the class details and importance details too if possible (ive left some guidelines to help further down). Here is an example of me adding it to the Michael Jackson article seen here. — Realist 2  ( Come Speak To Me ) 01:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Class and importance details
The Class be it FA, FL, GA, B, Stub etc is easy to find out, its written clearly on the relevant talk page.

The Importance detail is up to us, the Janet community. I would suggest, but we can debate this freely that the importance detail be as follows.
 * Janet Jackson = Top (Already tagged thanks to K.H, cheers)
 * Albums = High
 * Lead single from album & all #1 Hot100 singles = High
 * List of Janet Jackson awards = High
 * Grammy nominations for Janet Jackson = High
 * MTV Video Music Award nominations for Janet Jackson = High
 * American Music Award nominations for Janet Jackson = High
 * Janet Jackson as gay icon = High
 * Janet Jackson discography = Mid
 * Janet Jackson videography = Mid
 * Tours = Mid
 * Superbowl incident = Mid
 * Family members = Low (MJ should probably be Mid which I already tagged it as the first example -- but has now gone to "Low")
 * Films and Television series seen here = Low
 * DVD's = Low
 * Other singles = Low

Ok, this is all I can think of, lets get a consensus on everthings importance before we go tagging, cheers. — Realist 2  ( Come Speak To Me ) 01:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't we add the template to the front of the page? That way users will know how to tag an article without having to go to the discussion page. Most WikiProjects have the "how to template information" on the front page and an example. K.H (talk) 01:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ive directed everyone to the talk page, i didnt want people running of tagging things until we had a consensus on article importance, we can add it to the front later when we have a general idea. --— Realist 2  ( Come Speak To Me ) 01:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I think these guidelines are appropriate (mostly because I've already added these to several articles and would appreciate if I didn't have to revert my own work), although the Super bowl incident should be of high importance to the project as it was a major controversy. K.H (talk) 03:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If everyone else agrees to these youll be fine, its not to big an issue, it only involves changing a few letters.— Realist 2  ( Come Speak To Me ) 03:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally, I would like us to work on Janet's 10 #1 U.S. hits and bring them up to GA starting with "All for You" and working backwards. It's listed here that lead singles are more important than the other singles, but I would say "Together Again" is more important than "Got Til It's Gone" and "Again" is more important than "Just A Little While" etc. That's just my opinion. Thankyoubaby (talk) 04:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Generally the lead single is the biggest but Janet seems to be an exception lol. What if we call it "All US Hot #1's and Lead singles". --— Realist 2  ( Come Speak To Me ) 05:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Thankyoubaby (talk) 05:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry I went and tagged all the albums already, but I agree with the format Realist2 laid out. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  04:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

What needs tagging & List stats
OK everthing is tagged and added to the Stats list with the exception of some singles. Ive done her 10 #1 singles and her lead singles. We still need to do all the secondary singles (which you should label as "Mid") and update them onto the stats list. Please fill up the stat section when you tag these remaining articles tagging, seen here --—  Realist 2  ( Come Speak To Me ) 06:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

"Greatest Female Artist Of All Time?
"Janet, the Queen of R&B, is often regarded as one of the greatest and most influential solo female artist of all time." Doesn't this sound a bit biased to you guys. I don't know how article rules differ from project rules but "greatest" seems a bit too opinionated for a neutral encyclopedia. K.H (talk) 01:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, on projects your allowed to say whatever you like as long as its civil and doesnt breach BLP. Lol, i asked the same question last year dont worry. ;-) --— Realist 2  ( Come Speak To Me ) 01:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're more freer to say what you say on a "project" then post it on the person's article, lol. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 01:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

relations
FYI, Austin Brown (singer) and DealZ have been prodded for deletion. 76.66.193.20 (talk) 08:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement
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Request for comment on Biographies of living people
Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, many wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:
 * 1) supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
 * 2) opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced BLP articles if they are not sourced, so your project may want to source these articles as soon as possible. See the next, message, which may help.

Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people
If you don't already have this and are interested in creating a list of articles which need cleanup for your wikiproject see: Cleanup listings A list of examples is here
 * List of cleanup articles for your project

If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles that your project covers, to a special "incubation page", contact me, User talk:Ikip
 * Moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation pages"

If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip
 * Watchlisting all unreferenced articles

Ikip 05:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)