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100 clans
100 clans based on South Korean population • #김해김씨(金海金氏)

• #밀양박씨(密陽朴氏)

• #전주이씨(全州李氏)

• #경주김씨(慶州金氏)

• #경주이씨(慶州李氏)

• #경주최씨(慶州崔氏)

• #진주강씨(晋州姜氏)

• #광산김씨(光山金氏)

• #파평윤씨(坡平尹氏)

• #청주한씨(淸州韓氏)

• #안동권씨(安東權氏)

• #인동장씨(仁同張氏)

• #김녕김씨(金寧金氏)

• #평산신씨(平山申氏)

• #순흥안씨(順興安氏)

• #동래정씨(東萊鄭氏)

• #달성서씨(達城徐氏)

• #해주오씨(海州吳氏)

• #안동김씨(安東金氏, 구)

• #전주최씨(全州崔氏)

• #남양홍씨(南陽洪氏唐洪)

• #남평문씨(南平文氏)

• #창녕조씨(昌寧曺氏)

• #제주고씨(濟州高氏)

• #수원백씨(水原白氏)

• #한양조씨(漢陽趙氏)

• #경주정씨(慶州鄭氏)

• #문화류씨(文化柳氏)

• #밀양손씨(密陽孫氏)

• #함안조씨(咸安趙氏)

• #의성김씨(義城金氏)

• #창원황씨(昌原黃氏)

• #진주정씨(晋州鄭氏)

• #나주임씨(羅州林氏)

• #여산송씨(礪山宋氏)

• #남원양씨(南原梁氏)

• #연일정씨(延日鄭氏)

• #청송심씨(靑松沈氏)

• #은진송씨(恩津宋氏)

• #평택임씨(平澤林氏)

• #김해김씨(金海金氏법흥)

• #김해김씨(金海金氏사성)

• #성주이씨(星州李氏)

• #강릉유씨(江陵劉氏)

• #해주최씨(海州崔氏)

• #이천서씨(利川徐氏)

• #창녕성씨(昌寧成氏)

• #강릉김씨(江陵金氏)

• #단양우씨(丹陽禹氏)

• #연안차씨(延安車氏)

• #광주이씨(廣州李氏)

• #하동정씨(河東鄭氏)

• #의령남씨(宜寧南氏)

• #신안주씨(新安朱氏)

• #장수황씨(長水黃氏)

• #연안이씨(延安李氏)

• #여흥민씨(驪興閔氏)

• #정선전씨(旌善全氏)

• #현풍곽씨(玄風郭氏)

• #강릉최씨(江陵崔氏)

• #반남박씨(潘南朴氏)

• #한산이씨(韓山李氏)

• #평해황씨(平海黃氏)

• #전의이씨(全義李氏)

• #제주양씨(濟州梁氏)

• #천안전씨(天安全氏)

• #양천허씨(陽川許氏)

• #담양전씨(潭陽田氏)

• #함평이씨(咸平李氏)

• #영월엄씨(寧越嚴氏)

• #함양박씨(咸陽朴氏)

• #김해허씨(金海許氏)

• #진주하씨(晋州河氏)

• #능성구씨(綾城具氏)

• #충주지씨(忠州池氏)

• #고령신씨(高靈申氏)

• #합천이씨(陜川李氏)

• #기계유씨(杞溪兪氏)

• #풍양조씨(豊壤趙氏)

• #원주원씨(原州元氏)

• #선산김씨(善山金氏)

• #나주나씨(羅州羅氏)

• #풍천임씨(豊川任氏)

• #여양진씨(驪陽陳氏)

• #청풍김씨(淸風金氏)

• #나주정씨(羅州鄭氏)

• #초계정씨(草溪鄭氏)

• #영천이씨(永川李氏)

• #벽진이씨(碧珍李氏)

• #성주배씨(星州裵氏)

• #순천박씨(順天朴氏)

• #고성이씨(固城李氏)

• #안동장씨(安東張氏)

• #영산신씨(靈山辛氏)

• #나주정씨(羅州丁氏)

• #경주손씨(慶州孫氏)

• #무안박씨(務安朴氏)

• #삼척김씨(三陟金氏)

• #연안김씨(延安金氏) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caspian blue (talk • contribs) 00:10, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


 * would be great but needs a reliable source. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  13:49, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * There was one (한국의 인구수로 본 100대 성씨) but is a dead link now. &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 14:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Guidelines
I propose a MoS for biographies.


 * Hatnote - Template:Korean name
 * Infobox - WikiProject Biography/Infoboxes, Template:Infobox Korean name
 * Hangul in name parameter is not needed. Should only be placed in the lead and Infobox Korean name.
 * Lead - brief summary of career (e.g. Moon Geun-young, Girls' Generation)


 * Beginnings - (i.e. Early life, Early career; e.g. Kim Tae-hee)
 * Career - film, music, etc.
 * Members - Only applicable. If no individual articles, see Brave Girls.
 * Musical style - if applicable and if verifiable sources exist.
 * Public perception - includes controversies, media praise and criticism, and endorsements
 * Image - if possible
 * Death and legacy -if applicable. Should be useful for Jang Jin-young and Jang Ja-yeon.
 * Filmography - this includes Films and TV Shows.
 * In tables (year, title, role - English, followed by Korean in brackets, and any notes worth mentioning)
 * Only major roles and appearances should be listed in variety shows.
 * If role/appearance was cut/edited out for a big specific reason (e.g. scandal, controversies, etc.), do not include in filmography but include in biography.
 * {| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="10" style="text-align:center;"

! scope="col" | Year ! scope="col" | Title ! scope="col" | Role ! scope="col" | Notes
 * 2004 || Dead Friend || Eun-seo (은서)|| -
 * 2005 || Wet Dreams 2 || Park Soo-yeon (박수연)|| -
 * }
 * Discography - if small, e.g. Sunmi. If split off to another article, e.g. Seo In-young discography, link within Music Career
 * If an individual is a member of a group, do not copy and paste the discography of the group onto the individual's page.
 * Placing in tables is optional
 * Concerts, convention/festival and tours - if applicable. should list only MAJOR PERFORMANCES (needs to be defined). Prose optional.
 * Korean Music Festival, KCON, SM Town Live '10 World Tour and any others with major backing (government, city, state and company)
 * Awards - if applicable. should list only MAJOR AWARDS. However, a full list of awards can be split off into another article if the list becomes unwieldy.
 * Awards from fan-based entertainment sites (e.g. Soompi, Allkpop) do not count.
 * Notes - if applicable. includes non-reference footnotes
 * References
 * Notes - if applicable. includes non-reference footnotes
 * References


 * External Links - Fan pages do not count.


 * Navigation boxes, if applicable

Feedback is welcomed (Trolling will be ignored). &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 19:43, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Very nice. I would point to Wikipedia's policy on external links, specifically WP:ELMINOFFICIAL - as fans tend to abuse this one. Also for Filmography like concerts or awards, is there a guidelines towards MAJOR appearances or MAJOR roll? As in, not listing every single variety show or guest show they happen to be on? As idols, their job is to promote themselves - Wikipedia should not be expected to list every appearance. Evaders99 (talk) 18:50, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * if person has a page on imdb or kmdb, can they be included or use them for something else? Only major awards should be listed like SBS, KBS, etc. Major concerts, convention/festival and tours like Korean Music Festival, KCON, SM Town Live '10 World Tour and any others with major backing (Governemnt, State and Company). Non-major appearances/roles could be included in career section instead, to prevent long tables of small events/appearances. &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 22:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I tend to think imdb and other user-generated sites like it are unreliable and not worth linking to. They usually don't contain more than trivial notes or directory listings for people. Wikipedia policy isn't clear on linking to those sites, though at least for references they are unsuitable - WP:RS/IMDB Evaders99 (talk) 22:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * True, but I still see good articles using it. What about Rotten Tomatoes? &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 22:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has a stronger recommendations about Rotten Tomatoes - WP:Rotten_Tomatoes_and_Metacritic, though limitations obviously since this isn't English-language movies. Likely a similar site for Korean movies could be used, given if it used in the proper context. Wikipedia discourages linking to specific reviews in External links. Evaders99 (talk) 00:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll keep a lookout for any similar sites. &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 02:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I like it. For filmography, all roles should be listed. For variety shows, only ones where the person was a major guest and was not just doing a cameo or a short appearance. For example Big Bang appeared in Running Man ep 81 and 82 as the major guests of the episode, this should be in the Big Bang filmography section under variety shows. While our job is not to list everything they do, people do look for filmographies here for a reason. Either we list all major appearances, or we don't consider variety shows part of the filmography, at all. That's also a choice. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  13:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, only major appearances should be listed. What if somebody had a major appearance in a variety show and had their scenes were cut out due to scandals/controversies. Should we still include in filmography or in a different section? &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 15:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * If it did not actually get aired then it should not be in the fimography, since they did not appear on screen, I think. It should rather be mentioned in the biography shortly, if it was a major consequence of a scandal. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  19:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll make sure to include that. &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 01:53, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Should I create a subpage in WP Korea for the MoS or add it to Manual of Style/Korea-related articles? &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 19:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I think the manual of style is enough and then you can link to it from the porject main page? Teemeah 편지 (letter)  13:48, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll add a guideline to the working group that it belongs to and then add a see also section in the MoS linking to it. &#9780; Jaewon &#91;Talk&#93; 17:42, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Inactive?
I've suggested that this working group be marked as "Inactive" due to a lack of participation. If anyone is actively using this working group they may wish to comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea. Thanks! PC78 (talk) 17:57, 22 July 2019 (UTC)