Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Malaysia

On the subject of honorific suffixes
I am requesting a discussion on the usage of honorific suffixes for Malaysian biographical articles. The abundance of state titles issued to numerous personnel have inflated their titles to a (sometimes) ridiculous extent, especially when demonstrated in the subject article's infobox. An example would be those of Muhyiddin Yassin, Tunku Abdul Rahman, and Mahathir Mohamad, where their state titles have essentially covered a significant portion of the upper section of the infobox. This is made worse when if we equate state titles as those worthy of inclusion, then it will present the article's number of honours as unrealistic compared those of other national leaders where their honours are equal, or if not more than the Malaysian subject articles themselves.

I propose that:


 * The removal of all state titles in the infobox; retaining federal titles only (eg. PSM, KMN, SMN, MP, etc.);
 * Inclusion of a new section, namely Awards and honours, to list all their titles comprehensively.

gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 04:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Agree with you that those situations are a mess. Elizabeth II has just one position in that infobox field. Lee Kuan Yew has a slightly more expansive four. CMD (talk) 12:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I really need to re-open this discussion since there remains sternful editors that insisted on adding as much titles as possible. gavre (al. PenangLion) (talk) 12:26, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Rampant addition of transliterations apart from Malay in various topics
Calling to attention on the apparently rampant addition of Tamil (and to a lesser extent, Chinese) transliterations in articles apart from geographic places by certain editors, such as, , , , and.

For geographic places, scripts in Jawi, Chinese and Tamil are understandably added due to cultural diversity. But in the above examples, Tamil transliterations are added for articles on local governments and transport infrastructure, when according to MOS:PLACE, "names in languages with no particular present-day or historical ties to the place in question (English excepted, of course) should not be listed as alternatives". That is not even going into the fact that the rest of the articles on Malaysia's government structure (state and local governments) have no such transliterations that clutter the infobox and making readability that much harder (MOS:LEADLANG has another example of lengthy names in foreign languages that impair readability).

Hope to find clarification here on the MOS for Malaysian articles, if transliterations in languages other than Malay (the official language) is permitted outside the scopes of certain geographic locations and biographies. hundenvonPG (talk) 10:39, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * As noted we don't include the translations/transliterations for state and local governments (including Chinese, Tamil, and Jawi scripts), because they lack any official status. This should generally apply as a default to articles relating to Malaysia, unless there is a specific reason to add a particular translation/transliteration(s) on a case-by-case basis due to particular relevance. CMD (talk) 12:49, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Noted on this, . The editor in question not only refused to engage in the discussion that I started on his talk page, but also restored said edits.
 * , please justify your persistent addition of languages other than Malay (without consensus) in articles about local governments and transport infrastructure. hundenvonPG (talk) 12:15, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It appears that Visnu92 ignores to explain the persistent addition of Tamil in articles about transport and/or industrial infrastructure, as can be seen in this edit on the Mutiara line & Bayan Lepas Free Industrial Zone.
 * Reviving dormant discussion & tagging said user to explain why is Tamil relevant in articles about infrastructure, and why other similar infrastructure articles for the rest of Malaysia don't include Tamil? Are some industrial zones, seaports or train lines only used by the Tamils (and/or Chinese) that they gain special relevance, as per above?
 * Courtesy ping for CMD. To other active editors, feel free to weigh in as well. hundenvonPG (talk) 06:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * For additional context:
 * Kelana Jaya line: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * Ampang and Sri Petaling lines: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * KLIA Ekspres: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * KLIA Transit: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * KL Monorail: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * Kajang line: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * Putrajaya line: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * Klang Valley Mass Rapid Transit: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * Melaka Monorail: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * Kuching Urban Transportation System: no Tamil or Chinese transliteration present
 * Visnu92, care to justify why Tamil should be added for Mutiara line only, its relevance to the railway and why not others?
 * Ditto for industrial zones: why Bayan Lepas Free Industrial Zone should have Tamil transliteration, but Kulim Hi-Tech Park, Sama Jaya Free Industrial Zone and Port Klang Free Zone shouldn't?
 * To CMD, the reason for the courtesy ping is because this isn't the first time this issue has cropped up, involving the very same editor, no less. hundenvonPG (talk) 07:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Since Visnu92 has persistently refused to seek consensus on the addition of Tamil scripts for industrial zones (as can be seen in this latest edit), I have opened (yet another) ANI case about said user. hundenvonPG (talk) 04:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Peranakans
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Peranakans that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Yang di-Pertuan Agong
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Yang di-Pertuan Agong that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 21:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Malacca page
Hi,

I need guidance on Malacca talk page requested move (Talk:Malacca), if I have done it correctly. I have presented my findings accordingly.

I also want to inform that user @Hzh has been vocal in opposing, which is acceptable; but calling my rational as a lie makes me feel that this is no longer a healthy discussion and it's a borderline personal harassment. Instead of guiding and discussing, he barked around and citing WP pages and repeating things again and again, and there is no civility here. He as an experienced and wiser editor should approach this matter in more civilised manner.

Kindly assist. Thank you. nMyghet (talk) 13:01, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Invitation for the 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest
Hello, everyone! I'd like to invite you all to sign up for the upcoming 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. The event runs from July 1 to September 30 and signups close on July 15. The WikiContest focuses on developing countries. The intention is to improve the English Wikipedia's coverage and comprehension of articles related to developing countries. For this reason, you may also expect that articles related to Malaysia may be heavily edited during the contest. More information on how points will be awarded can be found at 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest/Scoring. For comments or suggestions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Wikipedia talk:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest. Thank you! (Copied with permission of Chlod) CMD (talk) 12:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Help for citing The Malay Dilemma
I edited the article for kampong, which has a sentence regarding Mahathir Mohamad on the kampong in his book The Malay Dilemma. I need help in citing parts of the book and fixing citation format (e.g. publisher, edition, year of publication).

Can someone have a physical or digital copy to fix the citation? RFNirmala (talk) 13:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Discussion about Sdn Bhd and Sendirian Berhad
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 10 § Sdn Bhd, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. &#x0020;Input to the discussion about the redirects and  from those with knowledge of Malaysian companies would be particularly helpful. Thryduulf (talk) 02:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC) Thryduulf (talk) 02:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)