Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maryland/Archive 2

Mount Savage, Maryland
Hello, I am new to Wiki editing and still learning so bear with me. I am relocating to Mount Savage and am willing to adopt the article. Let me know if I screw up. Wildwose 1/11/07

Copyright status of state seal image
I noticed OrphanBot has been going around removing images of the state seal. If anyone knows the copyright status of it, please add it.-Jeff (talk) 16:29, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, seems it's been taken care of-Jeff (talk) 01:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Request deletion of the United States Naval Academy from Wikiproject Maryland
While editors are correct that the Naval Academy is physically located in Maryland it is improper to include it WikiProject Maryland. 1) It is deliberately a national university. 2) it is a military base, essentially. No more than Fort Benning is part of "Wikiproject Georgia" should any of the military academies be part of their states. So neither should West Point nor the Air Force Academy be part of the states where they happen to be located. One academy was in fact moved to another state for a time! Please delete these from Wikistate Projects. Student7 21:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

New information added on a Maryland Politician
Hi. The wiki section on Maryland caught my eye and I decided to try to create a page for my boss, Delegate Curt Anderson. I am not sure if I did everything right, but I just wanted to post this note to let you all know it has been added.Marylandstate 22:42, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, nice start. I'll go ahead and add the project templates for this project and WikiProject Biography to the talk page.  Also, it's usually a good idea to link to the article you'd like to direct other editors to in your talk page comments (Curt Anderson in this case).  It just makes it easier for us.  Anyway welcome to Wikipedia and WikiProject Maryland, hope you enjoy editing!-Jeff (talk) 04:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

New articles
Dear Wikipedians, a list of possible Maryland-related articles found by bot is available at User:AlexNewArtBot/MarylandSearchResult. Colchicum 14:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Adding this to the useful links box. Thanks!-Jeff (talk) 22:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I have added articles on two Jewish Marylanders who served with distinction in World War II, Isadore S. Jachman(medal of honor) and Jacob Beser.(Enola Gay)Marylandstater 17:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC).

I added Laurel's page to this project. &mdash;Adavidb 13:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

New pages added on Maryland Politicians
FYI, after taking a look at the articles on members of the House of Delegates I noticed that all of the Republican members had articles but only a small percentage of the democrats. So I started articles on Joseph F. Vallario and Hattie N. Harrison. I welcome any constructive criticism or things I have overlooked.1msulax 19:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I have added articles on judges Robert I. H. Hammerman and Thomas S. Baer, as well as state delegates Gerron Levi, Talmadge Branch, Nathaniel T. Oaks, and former Senator Julian L. Lapides. Additionally I started an article on Clarence M. Mitchell, Jr. and news director at WBAL-TV, Ron Kershaw. Feel free to expand these articles.Marylandstater 17:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Help
Who is the current leader of this Wikiproject?? Please, if you know, respond on my talk page.

Politics rule 01:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, per your request I posted this on your talk page, but for anyone else who wants to know, here's what I said there: There really is no leader of WikiProject Maryland. I see WikiProjects as more of a collaborative effort by a group of members. As the founder of both WikiProject Maryland and the roads subproject, I'm usually responsible for alot of the maintenace work, so I guess that makes me the closest thing to a leader. But since this is a wiki, everyone is pretty much on the same level. If you want to make a minor change to the project, go ahead and do it, and if you want to make a major change, get consensus from the other members and do it. That's pretty much how it works.-Jeff (talk) 21:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

BCPL historical image archive - copyright status?
While looking for some information about Hunt Valley, I found this page: http://external.bcpl.lib.md.us/hcdo/lw_home.html. It has a large amount of photographs of places in Baltimore County, but I cannot find any copyright status on the images. I would like to think they're public domain, but can't be certain. This leads to two questions: Wikipedia's changed a lot since I first started editing (I've got many more edits than my history shows, mostly due to forgetting to login) so hopefully someone more versed in the current regulations can set me straight. Xerol 08:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Does anyone have any idea what the copyright status on these images is?
 * 2) Would I be able to at least source the pages of the images (which contain some historical information about the image as well) at the very least to provide links to them?
 * It looks like many of the images are still copyrighted. You could try figuring out which ones are public domain using the Hirtle table. As for your second question: there is no problem with linking to the pages or using them as sources as long as the copyrighted image is not displayed on Wikipedia. If there any genuinely unique totally irreplaceable historic photos, you might be able to upload them to Wikipedia as long as their use conforms to WP:NONFREE. Best, nadav (talk) 23:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


 * FYI: I wrote an email to the BCPL and asked for the use of some pictures pertaining to Bloede's Dam, I was told that it is fine to use them so long as you give proper credit to BCPL. I'm not saying that's a global allowance, Id still recommend writing to them and asking, explain which images that you want to use they seem to be very cooperative. Most of the images I used were nearly 100 years old but they do have some more recent. --Dp67 | QSO | Sandbox | UBX's 11:26, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

All Maryland lighthouses have articles
I have written articles for all remaining lighthouses listed for Maryland in the Lighthouses in the United States list. Please check Category:Lighthouses in Maryland to see them. Note that the range lights for the Baltimore Harbor channels have their own navbox. Mangoe 00:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

New feature added
I've added a project watchlist, which is really nothing more than a list of links to articles that we can track changes to via Special:Recentchangeslinked, which you can do by clicking the "Check project watchlist link" on the project page. This is similar to what I've done at the roads project. Unlike that one however, since there are way too many Maryland-related articles to put them all in one list we should only add links to articles that should be monitored, for example, Kent Island, Maryland which has been the target of linkspam lately. I also added Maryland since it's an obvious high-profile article. If you want to add an article, you can view the list via the "View project watchlist" link on the project page.-Jeff (talk) 19:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

List of state symbols of Maryland
... is languishing at the bottom of featured list candidacy and doesn't have the votes right now to be promoted. Take a look, and please support if you think it's deserving. Geraldk 13:22, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject District of Columbia
I just revived WikiProject District of Columbia and was wondering if anyone whose scope of interest overlapped with Washington, D.C. wanted to join.  T Rex  | talk  21:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Assessment
I've set up the project for assessments. John Carter 18:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! I've been wanting to do this for a while, but never got the chance.  Glad someone finally did it.  I'll be sure to add all the relevant links to the project page so other editors can easily find them.-Jeff (talk) 22:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Baltimore?
Would anyone be interested in a WikiProject Baltimore? There certainly seems to be plenty of Baltimore-related articles, and other major cites have their own WikiProjects, so it makes sense. Also, considering WikiProject Baltimore City College is pretty much dead, this would give us a more specific place to merge it to should we decide to merge it.-Jeff (talk) 03:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Maryland State Parks
I just did a reorganizing of the List of Maryland state parks and noticed there are only a handful of parks that have an associated article. If anyone has the time to write an article or even start one with the bare facts to expand on later please do so. I am currently working on a Patapsco Valley article and a slew of other wikiprojects but I will try to contribute to the parks list as well. Cheers! --Dp67 | QSO | Sandbox | UBX's 11:20, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been planning Matapeake State Park and Sandy Point State Park. I'll go ahead and at least get a couple of stubs up.-Jeff (talk) 01:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Image requests
I've noticed that there's been some issues getting free images for the article Hagerstown, Maryland. One solution might be to add the tag to the talk page. There is a maintenance category Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Maryland which members of this project may find useful - I was surprised to see there was no mention of it on the project page here. Perhaps it should be added to your list of useful links? Purgatorio 22:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Didn't even know about it, thanks for the heads up. I went ahead and added it.-Jeff (talk) 02:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's probably a bit late to suggest this now - but the article assessment drive would "dovetail" really well with identifying Maryland articles needing photographs. I wonder if there's a neat way to combine the two... Purgatorio 11:27, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Image requests II
I'm looking for a picture of the Walters Art Museum-Building. Maybe someone from the Baltimore-area can help. --Rlbberlin 11:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Inclusion of roads article part 2
I found a solution to the inclusion of Maryland road articles. Ideally, they should all be included in this project since they are related to Maryland, so I added Category:WikiProject Maryland and the assessment cats to that project's banner. This allows us to only use the MDRD banner on those articles while still having the effect of also having the WPMD banner.-Jeff (talk) 12:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Merger of WikiProject Baltimore City College?
The creator of the above named project has recently proposed it for deletion, saying given the drop-off of membership he wanted the project either deleted or made a task force of this project. How would the members of this project feel about such a "taskforceization" of the above project? John Carter 15:23, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Personally I'd like to see it incorporated into a WikiProject Baltimore. I think there's definitely a need for such a project given all the Baltimore articles we have, but I haven't gotten any comments back on it, so it hasn't gotten off the ground.  So as I see it, the options are to move it here, create WikiProject Baltimore and move it there, or stick with the status quo, but I don't think the project is going to go anywhere the way it is, so it would probably be better off as a task force.-Jeff (talk) 18:52, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, have you considered creating a Baltimore task force of WikiProject Maryland? I know that many of the other city projects were created as stand alone projects, but if the banner could be adjusted to permit Baltimore and Maryland assessments, as it could be, it would probably be a lot easier to maintain the Baltimore group. And there are at least a few precedents for such city subprojects. John Carter 13:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A task force probably would be the best place to start for Baltimore. If it gets enough activity to function as its own WikiProject, then we can split it.  Unless I get any objections, I'll merge the BCC project sometime next week.-Jeff (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That being the case, it would probably make most sense to integrate the Baltimore City College project into the new Baltimore task force. John Carter 16:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Possible copyvio
Chestertown Tea Party was recently rewritten by an anon. It's unwikified, doesn't fit the tone, and appeared out of nowhere. If anyone's interested, see if you can find where it came from, and if it is a copy+paste job, revert it.-Jeff (talk) 00:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, the editor in question has now registered as user:bluestoneroad and cleared things up on the talk page. The style issues that raised red flags for me were due to the fact that this user is new to Wikipedia, and isn't familiar with the style guidelines here, it's just that unfortunately, the particular broken guidelines made the edits seem like a copyright violation.-Jeff (talk) 16:20, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Newsletter
I've been thinking about starting a newsletter for the project. It will mostly contain the same kind of news that's in the message that's being sent out to everyone. If anyone has any comments or is interested in helping out, post here.-Jeff (talk) 05:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Unknown-importance Maryland articles sorting
I am currently sorting through Unknown-importance Maryland articles. Towns are going in High-importance Maryland articles since the locations in Maryland are very important in my opinion. Suburbs are going in Mid-importance Maryland articles.

I am currently up to R and may go further this morning. I am hoping that this suits the rest of the project members, since I haven't found the criteria that is being used to assess articles. If I get done with that and still feel up to doing more sorting, schools will more than likely end up in Low-importance Maryland articles.

I cleaned out Unassessed Maryland articles earlier into mostly Stub-Class Maryland articles but some went to Start-Class Maryland articles. There are two items left in Unassessed Maryland articles, but those are just the templates used. I could substring the use of the templates in the examples to remove the categories.

I cleaned up the project template documentation. Also, I altered a few of the stub templates by adding Flag of Maryland.svg to them just to give them a closer connection to this project. I also created two more stub categories: Maryland newspaper stubs and Maryland radio station stubs. I think that Maryland may have the most stub categories of all of the U.S. states. I haven't checked.

If I categorized the articles wrongly, you can yell at me on my talk page. - LA @ 09:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Related WikiProjects (On project page)
This section needs to be moved down, it runs into the infobox on the right, unless I'm the only one with the problem. Half the text in the section and in the infobox are garbled over top of each other and unreadable. I'm not one to just stand back and complain leaving someone else with the task, I'll fix the problem (unless someone beats me to it) if I'm not the only one having these results. I just didn't want to go ahead and do it without asking first.
 * -- DP 67  (talk/contribs) 05:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't see the described garbling and unreadability for this section via my Firefox 2.0 web browser running under Mac OS X, with scripting allowed for en.wikipedia.org. My guess is that it is browser dependent. &mdash;Adavidb 07:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The Wire
I notice that you guys recently tagged The Wire as falling under your mandate. There's a number of pages related to the show that you might be interested in: --Opark 77 12:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * David Simon - creator of the show who was born in D.C. but grew up in Silver Spring, MD and writes non-fiction and television set in Baltimore, MD
 * Ed Burns - Simon's chief writing partner, an ex-BPD homicide police, Baltimore public school teacher, and television writer
 * Rafael Alvarez - Baltimore native and writer for The Wire who has gone on to write and produce TV in LA
 * William F. Zorzi - writer for The Wire who had a long career as a political journalist for the Baltimore Sun
 * Joy Lusco - writer for The Wire and one-time Baltimore resident who has produced independant and documentary films set in the city.
 * David Mills - University of Maryland graduate, Emmy-award winning writer and television producer.
 * The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood - a book by Simon and Burns about drug dealing and addiction in West Baltimore
 * The Corner - a Emmy-award winning mini-series based on the book and still set in Baltimore
 * Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets - Simon's first book about the BPD homicide department
 * Homicide: Life on the Street - Long running NBC cop drama set in Baltimore and based on the book
 * Barry Levinson - academy award winning director from Baltimore who was a producer for Homicide
 * John Waters another succesful film director from Baltimore - I believe several of his films are set there
 * Jay Landsman - an ex-BPD homicide police who has also worked for Maryland county police and appears on The Wire
 * Robert F. Chew - a Baltimore actor who plays Proposition Joe on The Wire
 * James Ransone - Baltimore native and film and television actor
 * Lance Reddick - Baltimore born actor who stars in The Wire as Cedric Daniels and will soon appear in Lost
 * Clayton LeBouef - Local Baltimore actor
 * Erik Todd Dellums - Local Baltimore actor
 * Ed Norris - former chief of police in Baltimore, indicted felon, radio talk-show host and actor on The Wire
 * Kurt Schmoke - former mayor of Baltimore and actor on The Wire
 * List of The Wire episodes - self explanatory, also links to an article for each episode which might be considered to fall under your mandate as they are all set in Baltimore
 * List of characters from The Wire - as above, also many characters have their own pages including all of the starring cast

Film and television task force
In fact I'd be happy to run a films and television task force for the project as I'm fascinated by the "cottage industry" of television in and around Baltimore.--Opark 77 15:27, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Such a task force would probably have to be a joint task force of both this project and the other relevant project(s). From what I know, it's generally liked that there be at least a few hundred relevant articles to go ahead and create a new task force, given the changes to banners and such. But, personally, if the other members of this project and possibly the other relevant projects decide it's a good idea, then I would have no objections whatever. John Carter 15:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm split on the issue, while in addition to your list above, there are also numerous films shot in Maryland, I still don't know if there would be enough articles, and/or people interested in Maryland film and TV for a task force to be created. But if other members feel that such a task force should be created then I'm all for it.-Jeff (talk) 14:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * PS: if such a task force it created, one thing you could work on is populating the category I linked and/or creating a List of films shot in Maryland. Of course you could also work on it yourself, it all depends on if you think you need some extra help and would like to coordinate everyone's efforts in such tasks.-Jeff (talk) 14:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe the best idea might be to list it on the WikiProject Council/Proposals page, and leave a note with the other relevant projects about the existence of the new proposal? Then, if it winds up getting the suggested number of members, we'd know if it had enough interest to be viable or not. John Carter 15:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I had a look at the proposals page you suggested but it appeared to be for entirely new wikiprojects, I'll have another look tomorrow (I'm a bit pressed for time today). I've asked at wikiproject television and will ask wikiproject film for their input tomorrow also. I think 100 articles is possible from the offing, especially looking at the list of films provided above. I agree that interest would be the limiting factor for the task force.--Opark 77 01:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)