Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Indian military history task force/Archive 1

Scope of this task force?
Please see the discussion here. Kirill Lokshin 15:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have given my inputs there -- Lost 16:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Assume "pre-independence south Asia" includes Nepal/ Gurkhas and Burma/ Myanmar. This ok? Folks at 137 19:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd avoid pulling pre-19th century Burma into this task force, because it does have a rather distinct history from that of India; but after it gets annexed to British India it would presumably be naturally included here (and would intersect with the British task force as well). Kirill Lokshin 19:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

In my tagging and assessing frenzy, I've come across a dozen articles on modern day Sri Lanka, i.e. Sri Lanka Artillery. Are these articles within the scope of this task force or shall I leave them untagged? - Canglesea (talk) 17:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Clash
Will we not be clashing with the WikiProject History of India ? I.ve come across their tags on articles relating to this project. Tristan benedict 10:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Military history is a rather narrower topic than overall history, so I don't think there will be any real complaints. We haven't had issues with these sorts of task forces before, even in cases where there was already a "History of Something" project in existence. Kirill Lokshin 12:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Infact this is a child project of the above mentioned project and that is mentioned on the HOI project page -- Lost 17:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

tagged a lot of articles
get some attention--D-Boy 05:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Banner image?
The current image used for the task force in the project banner is perhaps a bit difficult to recognize at the small size used for images there, so I was wondering if could be used instead? Or would using the modern flag raise cause problems that I'm not aware of? Kirill Lokshin 18:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm fine with it. Only reason I put the lion one on is because all the other countries had cooler ones that weren't flags.--D-Boy 05:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * You could use [[Image:Ashoka Chakra.svg|50x30px]]--D-Boy 07:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, that seems like a good one. Kirill Lokshin 12:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Siachen Glacier
Why is there a pic of pak soldiers praying? Is it needed?--D-Boy 00:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It's also on the Mountain warfare article. How does praying relate to this kind of warfare?--D-Boy 07:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd guess it's the "we have a free-license picture, and should therefore add it to as many articles as possible" approach. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 11:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Suggestions
A few things seemed a bit out of place, especially given the nature of major topics like ,65, and '71. These topics need to be redrafted in encyclopedic language, the topics appear as though they have been written by an Indian army colonel. The factual accuracy withstanding, the language is NPOV material. That and someone should mention the battles mentioned in the Category:Battles of the Indo-Pakistan Wars section in the individual wars. Freedom skies 19:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Category:Battles of India
Category:Battles of India was originally intended to be limited to articles about the modern state, with previous states in the area having their own categories. It seems to have become a catch-all for everything that occured in the region, though, which isn't really a very correct way of doing things. Maybe someone with a good knowledge of the various prior states could sort this out, creating some new sub-categories of Category:Battles by country as appropriate? Kirill Lokshin 05:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

New userbox for task force
I created a new userbox for the task force. You would need to put for it to appear -- Lost(talk) 06:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Iftikhar Janjua
The above article was brought to my attention as being very POV. Could someone work to make it a bit better please. I will also try to do so. Thanks -- Lost (talk) 07:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I am sure we can add more info and make it more neutral iafguru 13:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Colachel
How can this be a naval victory if the article only says that marines and infantry fought in a town? Wandalstouring 11:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
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Maps
I'm interested in making free svg maps. Please drop me a note on my talk page if you need any. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  09:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

We definitely need them, especially for the 1971 War articles --AW 18:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Army Regiments
I have updated information on some of the Army regiments using Bharat-Rakshak as my source. I have updated information on all the Gorkha regiments in the Indian Army and have moved the pages so as to reflect their current regimental names. I have kept the information in all the Gorkha regiments, especially information about their operations prior to independence. I primarily added infoboxes, regimental insignias and as much information about their operations after independence using information from BR. I noticed that there is some information on the 5GR pertaining to their operations in 1945, 1965 and 1971. I will try to create new pages for these battles and link it back to the 5GR.

I have also updated information on the Rajput Regiment(needed to be cleaned up as it was an essay) and enhanced the Punjab Regiment pages. Rakeshsharma 03:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Very nice work! Kirill Lokshin 03:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

New article on Ghazni
Someone started an article recently on the Battle of Ghazni. It looks like it needs some work connecting it to the proper war, conflict, campaign, etc. I don't know enough about the subject thus am posting this here. Cla68 03:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_history
talk of some new stubs. add your input.--D-Boy 12:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Battles involving the Rajputs
Have added this category but am unable to edit the page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Battles_involving_the_Rajputs&action=edit

Can someone do it by adding the following battles:

Battles of Taraori

Battle of Haldighati

Battle of Khanua

Maharaja Jaswant Singh(Battle of Dharmat)

General Zorawar Singh (Battle of Tibet?)

As and when the famous battle where the Rajputs defeated the Arab invaders is created on wiki it should be placed here. The various sieges of the Rajput forts can also be considered as battles and can be listed here.

Gallantry Award Recipients pages
The pages for recipients of Gallantry awards like PVC, MVC and others, as well as war heroes needs to be cleaned up in my opinion. They read like obituaries and citations. This does not help in giving information. A better way would be to provide a small introduction and overview of their life, like in most biographies, and keep a separate section for the citation itself. A good example would be the pages for Easy Company members, for eg. Richard Winters. This I think is a good template to follow for the PVC winners pages as well. Sniperz11 07:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

A-Class review for Battle of Panipat (1761) now open
The A-Class review for Battle of Panipat (1761) is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! Kirill 01:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I do have knowledge and adequate references about the battle and would like to help as soon as possible. Just working on the mode of editing. ThanksKesangh (talk) 06:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How about adding the battle image to the taxobox. Did'nt work on my computer preview, dont know why? AshLin (talk) 15:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Further directions for the WikiProject
Hi,

We need to take on the following as separate wiki category/stub/etc, Battle and Theatre Honours, names of honours and awards both pre- and post independence and names of award winners of the highest awards. Since I didn't have time to do a search for this, please disregard if this is already done.

Regards, AshLin 05:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

DRDO Lab pages
I am creating the lab pages for the individual DRDO laboratories. I'd love help and any suggestions in this regard. I have created a sandbox page for the labs at User:Sniperz11/Sandbox 3 where I've created infoboxes for the individual DRDO labs.

I've created general format for the lab pages to follow, which is also on the sandbox page. I've also created a template for the labs at Template:DRDO Laboratories. The template links to the individual lab pages, or at least to those pages that exist. I request you to help out in creating more pages... the more the merrier. Thanks. Sniperz11talk 12:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Afghanistan?
Does this task force include Afghanistan in its scope. If not, does anyone know whether it's included elsewhere? Folks at 137 (talk) 19:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's included anywhere at the moment. There was some discussion previously about setting up a Central Asia-type task force, but that never went anywhere. Kirill 21:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Bharat Rakshak - Reliable Source?
User:Sarvagnya has started a discussion about Bharat Rakshak (site) and its reliability as a source (WP:RS) at Noticeboard for India-related topics. I request interested editors to contribute, since a majority of Indian Defence related articles use Bharat Rakshak as a primary source of information. T/@ Sniperz11 editssign 02:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Use Bharat Rakshak as a reference sparingly as a matter of principle. Prefer written text references to Bharat Rakshak if you have a choice. AshLin (talk) 07:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Divisions of Pakistan
Since there is not yet a Pakistan task force, just quickly raising something here. All assistance would be welcome, especially with sources, with a draft in my userspace User:Buckshot06/List of divisions and brigades of the Pakistan Army. Thanks, Buckshot06(prof) 12:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Some new articles

 * Repugnant_battle_honours_of_the_Indian_Army
 * Mysore_(Battle_Honour)

AshLin (talk) 08:28, 20 October 2008 (UTC)