Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Missouri/Archive 4

FAR for Robert A. Heinlein
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Milestone Announcements
I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 (t, c) 22:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group
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Thanks. — Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:25, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Collaboration at United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri
Hello, Missouri-involved Wikipedians. The new WikiProject United States courts and judges has (arbitrarily) chosen United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri as its first court article to focus on cleaning up and expanding. Any help you fine people could provide would be greatly appreciated! All the best, – Quadell (talk) 03:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Reedy's Mirror
Hi all. I've created a referenced stub about Reedy's Mirror, a fin de siecle literary journal in St. Louis. Is there enough info on The Sunday Mirror Company to create a page?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation
This message is being sent to WikiProjects with GAs under their scope. Since August 2007, WikiProject Good Articles has been participating in GA sweeps. The process helps to ensure that articles that have passed a nomination before that date meet the GA criteria. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. Instead of reviewing by topic, editors can consider picking and choosing whichever articles they are interested in.

We are always looking for new members to assist with reviewing the remaining articles, and since this project has GAs under its scope, it would be beneficial if any of its members could review a few articles (perhaps your project's articles). Your project's members are likely to be more knowledgeable about your topic GAs then an outside reviewer. As a result, reviewing your project's articles would improve the quality of the review in ensuring that the article meets your project's concerns on sourcing, content, and guidelines. However, members can also review any other article in the worklist to ensure it meets the GA criteria.

If any members are interested, please visit the GA sweeps page for further details and instructions in initiating a review. If you'd like to join the process, please add your name to the running total page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles from the worklist or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. With ~1,300 articles left to review, we would appreciate any editors that could contribute in helping to uphold the quality of GAs. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Error for Kingsville Missouri
The city is not "at the intersection of U.S. Route 50 and Route 58". A quick glance at google maps shows that the city is at the intersection of Route 58 and Missouri supplemental route W. I hate to make a change, but the town is well south of U.S. Route 50. —Preceding unsigned comment added by U tu51 (talk • contribs) 01:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Community service organizations in Bolivar
Can someone please tell me why tiny Bolivar, MO rates a lengthy, and seemingly irrelevant, list of "community service organizations" section? Without it, the article is about 9K. With it, it's around 37K. No other town in Missouri of similar size has such a lengthy list, even though they may have just as many (if not more) such organizations. I tried to edit the section out, but of course the bot and a human reverted it. Don't get me wrong, it's good info, but I feel it isn't appropriate for an encyclopedic entry on the town. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.179.167 (talk • contribs)


 * The obvious answer is that the article has that long, seemingly unecessarily detailed section simply because someone added it -- presumably someone involved in Bolivar civic matters. (You probably didn't need me to tell you that, but you did ask.)  As to whether it "requires" the section, well, I haven't looked at what you removed, but by your description I'd guess not.


 * As for the problem of your edits being reverted, the bot saw an entire section deleted by an anonymous user, and interpreted it as a problem. I'd be quick to believe that's usually true in such a case.  I don't know if the bot is more tolerant of logged-in users with a history (auto-confirmed), but it might be one more reason to start editing from an account.  It's really more anonymous to edit from an account -- from your IP address I'd guess that you're an ATT/SBC DSL subscriber somewhere around St. Louis, information I could not get if you were logged in.  (To make us even, so am I.)


 * Regardless of whether you're logged in with a history or not, if you get reverted by a bot, it's best to leave a good explanation of why you re-revert it. I'd like to commend you on your usual liberal use of the edit summary.  Waaay too many editors ignore that, and I'd like to see edits with a blank summary refused, even if it would invite a lot of nonsense summaries -- just one more way to pick out the nonsense edits.  Your second edit might have gotten more traction with the human who reverted you, though, if you had made a better effort with the summary on that edit.  Maybe it wouldn't have helped -- I sometimes am too quick with the revert button, too.  But I think first putting the explanation you put above on the article's talk page, and then referencing the talk page in the edit summary would have a big influence on anyone thinking to revert you.


 * An alternative to blanking the whole section might have been to distill it down to a generalized sentence or two. Even if the article could do without it, that would show a little sensitivity to the person(s) who thought it important enough to take the time to add it all, and it might garner more leniency from the bot (and human) than outright blanking.


 * Those are just some thoughts I have in response to your question. Thanks for making the effort to try to improve the article, and thanks for bringing the issue to a discussion rather than just stomping away from it in a snit.  I was going to put this on your IP's talk page, but decided it's probably best to put the response where you put the question, even if I didn't expressly address the Bolivar issue as it relates to this wikiproject.  --Kbh3rd talk  03:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I took a look, it did seem very out of scope, also much of it violated WP:NOTADIRECTORY. More importantly it appeared quite a bit of it was a copyright violation.  I have removed the whole section on Notability grounds.  If somebody did want to reincorporate it, it would have to be in much more limited NPOV scope. Grey Wanderer (talk) 21:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Kansas City section
It is rather objectionable that a project about the State of Missouri does not have a category in Wikipedia in the | Cities in Missouri page for the state's largest municipality in population and largest metro area by land- Kansas City. Columbia has one, Saint Louis has one, where's Kansas City? It needs to be done, and now. Cijjag (talk) 18:48, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Umm, it does (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Cities_in_Missouri&from=K). The page displays them alphabetically. Grey Wanderer (talk) 18:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)