Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Monotremes and Marsupials

primate resource?!
The box says "an attempt at creating a standardized, informative, comprehensive and easy-to-use primate resource" -- I think we should delete "primate", unless someone has radically reworked mammalian taxonomy. (I have no idea about infoboxes and templates so I won't try and fix this myself.) -- Danny Yee 22:22, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Whoops! My bad.... I copied the template from the Primate one, and missed that part of the change. All fixed now! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 23:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

What should I do to help
I will creat articles for the Australian Marsupials, but my grammer is up th S*** so everytimme I do an Article I will put it on UtherSRG talk page. Is there anything else that is in urgent attention? Enlil Ninlil 04:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Diprotodontia and Thylacoleonidae
Does anyone ave any good sauces for these 2 families of extinct marsupial either online or printed? Thankyou Enlil Ninlil 09:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Steropodon and Kollikodon taxonomy
Could someone look at these articles? They are at minimum poorly written from verifiability standpoint - I personally cannot comprehend how from piece of a jaw and a set of teeth one can derive the breeding method. Type of food - yes, ok but for me milk and laying of eggs goes way too far as a conclusion. Obviously I am not a paleontologist myself but (AFAIK) Wikipedia should be understandable to ordinary people :-O -- Goldie (tell me) 20:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what the problem is. Clearly enough of the jaw fragment is present for both of these taxa so that the jaw and teeth can clearly be assigned as a platypus-like monotreme due to extreme similarities (synapomorphies) with Obdurodon and Ornithorhynchus.  As such, the most logical conclusion is that these animals were both egg-laying and milk producing.  --Aranae 22:33, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I still am not convinced completely, as tasmanian wolf and the common wolf for example have a lot in common despite belonging to different taxa. However what you provided is much better than no reasoning at all, there was no information how big the jaw is and what it looked like :-) If it is not your personal conclusion (against WP:NOR) it only needs to go in the article with a proper reference (to a scientist drawing the conclusion). -- Goldie (tell me) 08:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory
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Wildlife Barnstar
There is currently a barnstar proposal at Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/New Proposals for a barnstar which would be available for use for this project. Please feel free to visit the page and make any comments you see fit. Badbilltucker 15:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Veterinary medicine project
There is now a proposed project at WikiProject Council/Proposals to deal with matters of veterinary medicine, a subject which currently has disproportionately low content in wikipedia. Any wikipedia editors who have an interest in working on content related to the subject are encouraged to indicate as much there. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Topic:Paleontology
Hello at Wikiversity there is a disipline in development on palaeontology that needs help. The courses could help with te development of articles on wikipedia so it is a long term program. Interested people can go to this URL: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Topic:Paleontology#Content_summary Thanks for reading Enlil Ninlil 03:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Monotreme eggs information required
I have these last weeks requested in the talk pages of the following articles, Egg (biology) and monotremes, more information about monotreme eggs and images of them. I believe that there isn't very much information about this. I would like to know futher about the characteristics of these eggs, the phisiological differences between monotreme eggs and other eggs, like reptiles, birds or amphibius. I have heard that they are "rubbery" (?). Do they need to be kept warm (?) I would appretiate any information... --Francisco Valverde 19:41, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Here is some information on the egg of the platypuss http://www.platypus.asn.au/ look under matters of life and death. Enlil Ninlil 03:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, at least it's something. But aren't there any images of the eggs?--Francisco Valverde 08:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Some more information but no pictures http://www.biology.iastate.edu/intop/1Australia/04papers/CromerMonotrRepro.htm More technical as well. Enlil Ninlil 08:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * http://www.condorcet.com.au/_oz/marsupials/platypus.html There is a picture under repoduction. Enlil Ninlil 08:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * http://au.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=Monotreme+eggs+&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp You bloody beauty. Enlil Ninlil 08:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm a scientist, maybe
But you don't have to listen to me. Anyway, I'm starting a research project in the field of Marsupial immunomes. So I'll likely be adding some content to Marsupial pages I find lacking (and then find what's lacking). I've added a bit already to why oncological researchers like to give this little beastie cancers and then cut them up. Don't worry I'm not killing anything this year (for research purposes anyway). Hope I don't tread on anyones toes.--ZayZayEM 13:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:TOL template
I'm working on a proposal to subsume all the WP:TOL project banners into a single one. Please see WikiProject Tree of Life/Template union proposal and its talk page. Circeus 19:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Macropod hybrids
Hi. I've created the Macropod hybrids page, which falls under your WikiProject. Maybe you guys could check it out, fix anything you see fit? - Abbott75 07:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I will help if I have time, but never heard of them before. Enlil Ninlil 07:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Animals project proposal
I think it's both a pity and somewhat illogical that we have no animal WikiProject despite the fact that there are over 20 projects that are basically its daughters. There are also other projects that could emerge from it in the future, such as one on animal behavior. The project would provide a central place for people from all animal projects to talk, a central set of guidelines for articles on animals and zoology, and an assessment system for articles related to animals. If you are interested in creating such a project please visit Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of life to discuss. Richard001 08:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

The following projects would come under the parentage of this project:


 * WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles
 * WikiProject Dinosaurs
 * WikiProject Pterosaurs
 * WikiProject Sea Monsters
 * WikiProject Arthropods
 * WikiProject Lepidoptera
 * WikiProject Phasmatodea
 * WikiProject Spiders
 * WikiProject Birds
 * WikiProject Cephalopods
 * WikiProject Fishes
 * WikiProject Aquarium Fishes
 * WikiProject Sharks
 * WikiProject Gastropods
 * WikiProject Mammals
 * WikiProject Monotremes and Marsupials
 * WikiProject Cetaceans
 * WikiProject Primates
 * WikiProject Cats
 * WikiProject Dogs
 * WikiProject dog breeds
 * WikiProject horse breeds
 * WikiProject Animal rights

Names based on Old-World mammals
Are we for or against names that are based on pretty old Euro-centric classifications, ones that basically call marsupial species "marsupial-"insert superficially similar European animal here". Such as "marsupial mouse", "rat-kangaroo", "marsupial squirrel" (I've read in regards to phascogales, quoll etc. --ZayZayEM 02:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm for using whichever names are most official. And that would mean whatever's in Mammal Species of the World (3rd ed. 2005). - UtherSRG (talk) 09:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm checking, and I don't see it there. I am going to try and reduce usage of such nomenclature. As far as I am aware, terminology like native polecat (quoll), and marsupial mouse/rat (which can refer to over 50 species of Dasyurids, in several genuses) is archaic and not used by reliable literature except in an archaic sense. Even my 1940s texts mention that they aren't exactly the best to use.--ZayZayEM 13:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merger to WikiProject Mammals
I was thinking that this project might be willing to try to utilize the banner of the Mammals project for assessment. To do this, some sort of "merger" of the projects would be required. For the purposes of centralized discussion, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mammals. Thank you. John Carter 17:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposed change to Naming conventions (fauna)
There is a current proposal to change an animal-related naming convention, which directly effects the the Manual of Style guideline, and the naming conventions policy. If you are interested, your input would be appreciated.  Justin  chat 06:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Photo requests
I note that this project's template doesn't handle |needs-photo=yes requests. The mammal one does, but it seems pointless to include that template as well just to get the desired effect. The question is whether this project should have its own photo requests category, or whether such requests should just go in Category:Mammal articles needing photos? Richard001 (talk) 04:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm currently in need of several images of the Masked Ringtail. If anyone can provide, please do! —Preceding unsigned comment added by KnowledgeRequire (talk • contribs) 22:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Assessment
If the members of the project wish to use it, the Template:Mammal, the project banner for WikiProject Mammals, now has been set up to allow for separate assessments for this project as well, although not all the categories have yet been created. If the members of this project would want to use it, I could create the relevant categories. You can see the banner in use at User talk:John Carter/Mammals. John Carter (talk) 23:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How is that different from Template:MammalTalk? - UtherSRG (talk) 23:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It isn't, actually; the talk page just shows what the banner looks like in use. John Carter (talk) 23:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL! Ok. Go ahead and redirect Template:MaMTalk to one of the two. I'd prefer if the final destination were Template:MammalTalk. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * And by that I mean, the comppleted template should be at Template:MammalTalk. All others should point to it. It looks like there is supposed to be some code that recognizes if the article is in a subproject. Please make sure that this project is iincluded, as well as the Cetacean and the Primate Wikiprojects. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've changed all of the monotreme/marsupial articles to Template:Mammal. There are now categories with all marsupial/monotreme articles and their categories. Frickeg (talk) 22:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent. John, could you make sure that template:Mammal work properly for Primates, calling out the primate class and importance? - UtherSRG (talk) 23:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Primates has been added. The existing template can have Template:MammalTalk or anything else turned into a redirect to it, so that using either name will get the desired results. John Carter (talk) 00:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It is added, but it is incorrect. When used, it assigns the article to mammal categoriees, not primate categories. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Redirects on "G. species" disambiguation pages
Please see this discussion so that we can come to a conclusion about redirects used on "G. species" disambiguation pages.

Thank you, Neelix (talk) 00:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Inactive Tag
I marked this WikiProject as inactive due to a lack of recent project activity. If this tag was placed in error, simply remove it from the top of the page and mark this project 'active' at the WikiProject Directory, here. Andyo2000 (talk) 16:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow we have been bad. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 11:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Marsupial
can someone check the petrosal link on the marsupial article please, the word wasn't linked before and most people won't know what it means, cheers Tom B (talk) 20:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Check it in what fashion? The word is now linked and directs to the relevant page... T.carnifex (talk) 09:04, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Evolution of Kangaroos
Hello people, I am wanting to do a page on this subject. I have mind the material on the Palaeontology project but am wondering if anyone could help, or have information they could provide. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 23:07, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Platypus capitalisation
If you're interested in the capitalisation of platypus, please contribute to the discussion here. Cheers! Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Australian Faunal Directory
A taxonomy of Australian marsupails an monotremes is available at

|AFD MARSUPIALA by id |AFD MARSUPIALA by name

|AFD MONOTEMATA by id |AFD MONOTEMATA by name

The names link to the AFD accepted taxon, which links to the AFD taxonomy. Since taxonomy potentially changes, these ids are not stable (which is why I gave you the ids for the names).

Paul Murray (talk) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistency between articles
Hi, in the lead section of Pademelon, it says, "Pademelons, wallabies, and kangaroos are very alike in body structure, and the names just refer to the three different size groups. Originally wallabies were divided into small and large wallabies, but a more suitable name was needed to differentiate between them." By contrast, Wallaby states, "Very small forest-dwelling wallabies are known as 'pademelons' (genus Thylogale) and 'dorcopsises' (genera Dorcopsis and Dorcopsulus)."

So, are pademelons properly considered wallabies or not? Can someone who is knowledgeable make these articles consistent with one another?

Thanks,  Lady  of  Shalott  14:56, 26 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The name Pandemelon and Wallaby are generic and are applied not matter on the taxonomic affinity. So you are better off referring to the taxonomic name instead of common generic names. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 06:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think "pademelon" is applied exclusively to Thylogale—I've certainly never seen it used for anything else. "Wallaby" is certainly imprecise. Ucucha (talk) 07:13, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:HighBeam
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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
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First annual Tree of Life Decemberween contest
After all the fun with the Spooky Species Contest last month, there's a new contest for the (Northern hemisphere's) Winter holidays at WikiProject Tree of Life/Contest. It's not just Christmas, but anything festive from December-ish. Feel free to add some ideas to the Festive taxa list and enter early and often. --Nessie (talk) 18:47, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
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The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

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Requested move at Talk:Dendrolagus notatus
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Dendrolagus notatus that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 19:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)