Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues/Vermont

Nonexistent towns in the NRHP?
On the NRIS Information Issues Page you state "St. John's Episcopal Church in the village of Highgate Falls in the town Highgate, Vermont is listed as being in the town of Highgate Falls, which does not exist."

I beg to differ. Highgate Falls certainly does exist. Ask anyone who lives in Highgate or nearby.

No, Highgate Falls is not a city or town (as the column heading suggests), nor even a village as the term is used in Vermont. It is, however, a traditional and recognized named location in the town of Highgate. Just about every map locates it, including Delorme's Vermont Atlas, the Jimapco Vermont Atlas and the Vermont Road Atlas and Guide from Northern Cartographic (a Vermont company). If you search for Highgate Falls in Google Maps or Bing, that's what you get, just as you will get East Highgate, Highgate Center and Highgate Springs, all of which are named locations in the Town of Highgate.

Elsewhere in these NRHP listings, we'll find such as East Charlotte (a named location in Charlotte) and Jonesville (a named location in Richmond). West Salisbury, South Shaftsbury, East Dorset and Center Rutland are not towns, but like hundreds of others throughout Vermont, they are the names used by all sorts of people (not just old-timers) to describe places, and are just as valid to locate a property in the NRHP listings as they are on any published map.

Ever heard of Jeffersonville? Most people have. Anyone who skis at Smuggs passes through it and it is the address the resort uses, but by your standard, it doesn't exist. Like Highgate Falls, Jeffersonville is not a city or town, nor is it an incorporated village, but rather a named location in the town of Cambridge. In my experience, most people know Jeff, but Cambridge gets nothing but a blank stare.

I said all that to explain why I think you should delete that issue. Mfwills (talk) 15:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I am moving the above from my talk page Because I find it inappropriate there. Apparently the poster misunderstood what I said. While Highgate Falls is a location in the town of Highgate, it is not a city of town itself. The NRIS is supposed to list items by the city or town they are in. clariosophic (talk) 17:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps rather than saying Highgate Falls doesn't exist, clarify that it is not a town in and of itself? This being the standard, there are A LOT of listings to be so noted, and not only in Vermont. Unfortunate that a) the persons who prepared the applications don't understand the requirement, and b) that NPS doesn't do sufficient data verification. Beyond that, my apologies if my choice of location was not appropriate. I am still getting used to how Wikipedia is organized and how to use it. Mfwills (talk) 20:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

NRHP Coordinates
What is the protocol on changing the coordinates as displayed in NRHP lists? When one notices that the coordinates are wrong, do we post it on the issues page and hope it gets fixed, or do we just fix it and be done with it? Mfwills (talk) 08:46, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Two weeks without a response. I will assume that it is permissible to correct the coordinates and will proceed to do so when I find errors.Mfwills (talk) 14:50, 25 December 2009 (UTC)