Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Mexico/Archive 2

Meetup
Recently created new mexico meetup page at Meetup/NM. If interested in an in person get together somewhere around New Mexico -- do say! &there4; here&hellip;&spades; 06:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Trinity test GA Sweeps Review: On Hold
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I have left this message at this task forces's talk page so that any interested members can assist in helping the article keep its GA status. I'm specifically going over all of the "World History-Americas" articles. I have reviewed Trinity test and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 09:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

getting the project listed in the WikiProjects TOC
WikiProject_Council/Directory/Geographical/North_America -- I see that the NM Project is listed in the USA box, but doesn't have an entry of its own in the list of individual state projects that follows below (notice that it's missing from the TOC). How can that be fixed? Aristophanes68 (talk) 14:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It can be fixed simply by editing the page, copying the section for another state, and editing the state name. I have just fixed it. --Una Smith (talk) 14:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Taos High School
There's a content dispute at Taos High School. Perhaps some editors from this project could take a look and help out? Part (but not all) of the problem is also a serious lack of references. If you can help with that, it would be appreciated! Aleta  Sing 03:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No dispute there now. --Una Smith (talk) 17:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

coas books
Would a page on Coas Books be appropriate and relevant to Las Cruces History? 70.56.139.28 (talk) 00:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

New Mexico mystery rail with trail
Rails with trails includes a map from a reliable source, showing 2 rails with trails in New Mexico. One is the Santa Fe Rail Trail along the Santa Fe Southern Railway, but I cannot identify the other. Based on the relative positions of the dots on that map, the mystery railroad is either somewhere east of Taos, or somewhere west of Albuquerque. Help? Please respond on Talk:Rails with trails. Thanks! --Una Smith (talk) 20:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Rio Grande Trail
Help with Rio Grande Trail would be much appreciated! Eg, break out the list of features by county, add links from other, relevant articles here, add external links to municipal and regional planning documents and also research those sources and add detail to the article. --Una Smith (talk) 15:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

List of National Historic Landmarks in New Mexico
Hey, i and others in wikiproject NRHP are trying to complete out and clean up lists of U.S. National Historic Landmarks, such as List of NHLs in NM. I think/hope this should be an interesting and reasonably high priority for New Mexico wikipedians, to ensure that NHLs in the state are well described. I wonder, is anyone present who would help, with photos or editing? Please contact me on my talkpage if u might be able to help. Sincerely, doncram (talk) 06:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Pueblos
See a long discussion about pueblos here. --Una Smith (talk) 20:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Plague of unsourced population data on New Mexico articles
There's been a plague over the past few days of unsourced and probably inflated 2008 population data being placed on several New Mexico-related articles by several editors (or more likely one editor operating under several names). The WP:USCITY guidelines are to use only US Census data, and for cities the Census bureau is only up to 2006, so the 2008 figures obviously do not come from the Census Bureau. Afflicted articles include New Mexico, Albuquerque, Las Cruces, and possibly others. See more discussion at Talk:New_Mexico. This may also affect years other than 2008, but activity seems concentrated there. Please be alert for unverified population data, and provide sources if you update this data yourself. Thanks. --Uncia (talk) 23:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The 2007 Census Bureau estimates for cities, counties, MSAs, etc. are out now; you can access them at Population Estimates - U. S. Census Bureau. Most or all of the false 2008 data has been provided by sockpuppets of PoliticianTexas. --Uncia (talk) 12:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Acomita Lake, New Mexico
Is Acomita Lake, New Mexico the same thing as 'Acomita', or is there an 'Acomita, NM'? I am reading Willa Cather's Death Comes for the Archbishop and the place is mentioned in Book Three, Chapter 1. I have added the allusion to the article but perhaps I am mistaken.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:31, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * On Acomita Lake, New Mexico you added "Acoma". Does the book mention "Acomita" or "Acoma"?  They are not the same. --Una Smith (talk) 21:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Both are, actually. The character travels around NM and there are descriptions of some pueblos.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, can you quote the part of the book you asked about, so we can help you make the correct attibution? Acomita (whatever) and Acoma definitely are not the same place. --Una Smith (talk) 20:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have the book with me now. I think I mentioned the chapters - the page numbers depend on the edition. I would do an online search but I'm not sure it's on Project Gutenberg because of the copyright deadline. If anyone has a copy of the book with them now...Zigzig20s (talk) 21:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Jornada del Muerto
Some disambiguation and/or fact checking is needed. Cimarron River and Jornada del Muerto attribute the name "Jornada del Muerto" to two different places. --Una Smith (talk) 21:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The del Muerte part of Cimarron River appears to be bogus (as well as ungrammatical). I have rewritten this portion of the article, giving sources, and moved most of it to Santa Fe Trail where it more properly belongs. Jornada is a generic term meaning a journey or a trail, especially one that can be completed in one day. For example, the Jornada mentioned here is on the Cimarron Cutoff (the Middle Crossing); there is another Jornada on the Upper Crossing. The article Jornada del Muerto is correct as it stands and I did not make any changes there. --Uncia (talk) 04:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Not GA-Class articles
The following three articles—List of United States Senators from New Mexico, List of Governors of New Mexico, United States congressional delegations from New Mexico—were listed as GA-Class on this New Mexico WikiProject; however, I could not find any record of them having gone through the GA nomination process. I have therefore reassessed them as List-Class articles. --Millbrooky (talk) 21:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup
Currently, 1621 articles are assigned to this project, of which 213, or 13.1%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 2008-07-14.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.

If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 18:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * On behalf of the project, I accept this offer. I'll put the template on the project page. --Una Smith (talk) 03:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Top/High importance articles needing the most work
Gleaned from the WikiProject New Mexico assessments table. Some might not merit being assessed as Top or High importance. --Una Smith (talk) 21:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Top, Start

 * Santa Fe Institute

High, Start

 * Acequia
 * Bosque del Apache National Wildlife Refuge
 * Cerro Grande Fire
 * Flag of New Mexico
 * Gadsden Purchase
 * Las Cruces, New Mexico
 * Seal of New Mexico
 * University of New Mexico

High, Stub

 * Blackwater Draw
 * Diego de Vargas
 * El Camino Real de Tierra Adentro
 * Folsom Site
 * Santa Fe River (New Mexico)

See WikiProject New Mexico/Assessment for criteria. --Una Smith (talk) 21:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Santa Fe Institute should be tagged as  at best; Albuquerque is an example of a Top-importance article for this project. Meanwhile, Flag of New Mexico, Las Cruces, New Mexico, and University of New Mexico should all be Top-priority. Seal of New Mexico probably not. —  SMcCandlish  &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93;  ‹(-¿-)› 00:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Quite likely. Be bold.  --Una Smith (talk) 00:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal: PNM into PNM Resources
I'm proposing a merger of PNM (article on Public Service Company of New Mexico) into PNM Resources (article on its holding company). Please comment here. Thank you. --Uncia (talk) 17:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There being no objections, I have merged the pages. The resulting article is still flimsy and I have marked it as needing expansion. --Uncia (talk) 03:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal: Whole Enchilada Fiesta into Las Cruces, New Mexico
I propose merging the article Whole Enchilada Fiesta into Las Cruces, New Mexico as the former is a stub and is linked to only from the latter. Please comment here. Thanks. --Uncia (talk) 20:02, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There being no objections, I have merged the pages. --Uncia (talk) 03:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for splitting New Mexico - September 2008
The existing New Mexico is too long (at 72 kB) and I'm proposing to split off several portions into separate articles. Please review and comment at Talk:New Mexico. Thanks. --Uncia (talk) 16:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

New Mexico articles needing geographic coordinates
 articles in Category:New Mexico articles missing geocoordinate data do not have geographic coordinates. Coords are useful for making the article appear on Google Maps & many other mapping services; and they allow our users to click through to see the article subject location on a map. There's a short guide to on how to add geocodes to articles ... it really is very easy to do. I hope you'll take some time to ensure that New Mexico is as well represented as it can be on wikipedia by fixing up the listed articles. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:37, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Courthouse Photos
I propose that photos of all New Mexico county courthouses be added to their respective article, and possibly the corresponding county seat article. This would serve to beautify the article and serve as a visual representation of the county. Help is needed adding them to their respective county pages by adding the following to the County Infobox template


 * ex image     =   courthouse image filename.jpg


 * ex image cap =   xxx County Courthouse in xxxx, New Mexico

The following counties do not have courthouse photos. Contributors may want to cross them off once a photo is taken and uploaded.

Perhaps its time to ask does Los Alamos County have a courthouse? Given its history I would not be surprised that it doesn't have a courthouse....

--Ichabod (talk) 12:55, 4 December 2008

Um, that list has 23 counties, so no New Mexico counties have a tagged photo of their court house. For some decades until earlier this year, Los Alamos had a county "municipal building" (history there), which included a court room. It appears in File:Ashley Pond.jpg. --Una Smith (talk) 08:19, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually New Mexico has 33 counties so 10 counties have courthouse photos. -Ichabod (talk) 03:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Beg my pardon, the image on the Santa Fe County page is not the Santa Fe County Courthouse that is the 1st Judicial District Courthouse (which is scheduled to be relocated to a new building) the actual county courthouse is on Johnson Street. If their is not another photo I can take a photo next time I'm in the "Capitol City!" Thanks Again! Atomic City505 (talk) 06:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

One of the challenges of this photo project is that, in the larger counties, the traditional courthouse functions no longer fit in one building. There may be an administrative building, a magistrate court building, a district court building, and maybe more. Which one is the courthouse whose picture we want? Since the intent is "to beautify the article and serve as a visual representation of the county", I think we can pick the prettiest or most historic one, although this is obviously a matter of judgement. The photo at Lincoln County, New Mexico is a historic courthouse but is no longer used for any courthouse functions and in fact is not even in the county seat. At the other extreme, the photo at Mora County, New Mexico is in fact the current courthouse but is appears to be a temporary building. --AllenS (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Rename Albuquerque, New Mexico
There is a request to move (rename) Albuquerque, New Mexico. See/join the discussion here. --Una Smith (talk) 08:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)