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Community Notification: Kwara State University Photowalk
Dear all,I wish to notify the WikiProject Nigeria of the proposed Kwara State University Photowalk a project aim to enhance and improve library and other Wikimedia projects and campaign in Kwara State. See details of this project via this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Omolarabasirat/Kwara_State_University_Photowalk If you would love to participate, please kindly reach out to me via my talk page Omolarabasirat (talk) 12:26, 11 October, 2021. (UTC)

Enhwe
I think this article needs some help from members of this WikiProject. GnocchiFan (talk) 20:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I will work on it. Some of the previous versions was way better. Needs wikification at the very least. HandsomeBoy (talk) 23:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Count me in. I believe I've done something similar here, although I'm still refining it. It's likely that Nigerian cities require citation and wikification, which I'll start on (while putting bios aside). @GnocchiFan and @@HandsomeBoy, any thoughts? I'd also like to bring in u|Vanderwaalforces. — Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 19:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow. You don't know elated I am about the present state of the article. This is a complete transformation from you guys. I appreciate.HandsomeBoy (talk) 08:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Conflicting info on Lagos State and Kano State Pages
I wish to raise conflicting info I have found recently. In their opening paragraphs, both the Lagos State page and the Kano State claim that their respective state is the most populous in Nigeria.

The Kano article cites Nigeria's National Bureau of Statistics' 2020 Bulletin, which estimates figure of every state and says that Kano is the most populous. The Lagos article's claim is supported by a claim from Lagos State Government.

Should it be made clear on both pages that the claim as the most populous state is disputed? Iamaneyeblinkernoseblower (talk) 11:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for bringing this here. This is a very unique scenario that requires extra care so as not to seem like downplaying the facts of one region over the other. First, let me respond as a person who is familiar with population studies in Nigeria before I provide one as a Wikipedia editor. Personally, as at today, correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think there is any sincere person that will dispute Lagos being the most populous state in Nigeria. Pretty sure even the Kano State governor will not argue with this. However, I can understand that considering the official figures presents the contrary it puts Wikipedia in a difficult position. Let me add to say that while the last census figure presents Kano as the most populous, independent sources tend to go with the numbers by the Lagos State government.
 * There are sources from independent reliable sources that presents Lagos as Nigeria most populous city, which seem like a more neutral narration. However, I recommend stating the designating body so that the reader can draw his own deductions. What I mean is - for Lagos, use words such as "...it is generally regarded as the most populous state in Nigeria by state officials and several independent sources including xxxxx, yyyyy and zzzzzz". While for Kano, just state that "According to data released by National Bureau of Statistics, it is listed as the most populous state in Nigeria". That is my take, and I will like to hear the opinion of fellow Nigerian Wikipedians.


 * Lastly, I just hope the proposed census ends these inconsistencies, it is long overdue. HandsomeBoy (talk) 07:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * IMO as a Nigerian, we could credibly conclude that Lagos State is the most populous by population and may not by land mass, since the last consensus was that Kano State has about the highest LGs amongst the Nigerian state. Without being skeptical, I also believe "Lagos should be regarded as the most populous by number of people, business, and all that." While Kano on the other hand, presents itself as the largest state per land mass and geo measuring. Now the sources will not be confused. Either way, I don't think land mass is same as number of people and if we're considering the most populous, we should use the Bureau of Statistics of the 2006 consensus—which is still the current as far as I can tell or otherwise have been changed– only God knows when?, thus, favouring Kano (because states are rated as most populous by land mass, and a state with a high land mass is mostly going to have the larger number of people). Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 07:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Kindly, land mass does not have anything to do with this. "A state with a high land mass is mostly going to have the larger number of people" simply does not follow, there are many places with high land mass that have lower populations than smaller places. Watercheetah99 (talk) 21:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok, let's forget everything concerning land mass. Lagos State, not Lagos which is the most populous city cannot be called the most populous State in Nigeria. Maybe the editor was confused of Lagos city and the state because in Kano State not also the city presented a pure two sources of the 2006 consensus we knew as well as the survey by the Bureau of Statistics in 2016. Like @HandsomeBoy, @Reading Beans, and @Vanderwaalforces have said same, we should rely on the 2006 population consensus and that's all. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 22:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that Lagos state is more populous while Kano has more landmass. I tend to disagree that population is estimated with landmass otherwise, Russia would be the most populous instead of China. Having said this, I will lean on the suggestions given by while we wait for the much awaited census. If this suggestion is not viable, then, we can revert to the 2006 census, "... according to the 2006 [state name] has [population number] making it the most populous state." Or something like that. Best,  Reading Beans  09:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Why on earth did my reply not go through though, damn. Nevertheless, the statement pertaining to Lagos State is rather contentious due to its unwavering assertiveness, particularly in the absence of an immediate citation. It is a common practice to concur with prevailing beliefs regardless of the presence or absence of evidence. In contrast, the article on Kano State appropriately references the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS), which lends credibility to the information presented. Therefore, the statement regarding Lagos State ought to be rephrased to reflect the statistics provided by the NBS, rather than presenting an unqualified assertion. It is often the case that generalizations are made based on widely held beliefs, and I suspect this was the case when the statement was incorporated into the article. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You said it well. Most applicably, it seems to be the turnout of Lagos city being the most populous over Kano (city), a city in Kano State. All I'm finalizing is that Kano State is the most populous state in Nigeria per and  followed by Lagos State, while it is turned upside for the cities, Lagos and Kano (city). Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 23:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * You got that just right. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've edited and changed the Lagos State page per se. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 00:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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Obe (Soups)
This is an article created by a contributor who was indefinitely blocked shortly afterwards. The sources cited are all blogs, and wouldn't support the text if they were WP:RS. Furthermore, I can't find anything in English which actually supports the central claim of the article: that 'Obe' is a specific type of Yoruba cuisine, rather than a Yoruba word for soups and/or sauces. And while I can absolutely see the merits of an article on e.g. Yoruba cuisine if valid sources could be found describing specific attributes that distinguish it, this article clearly doesn't do that. Before I nominate it for deletion, does anyone from this project have any comments? AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand Yoruba language quite well, and Obe actually means soup in general. It is just like the Yoruba word for soup, while Obe ata means stew in general. Honestly, without looking at any sources, I am not convinced on the merit of such an article. it is just like the Spanish word for soup having a Wikipedia article. Sounds like something for the dictionary or the soup article in Yoruba Wikipedia. Wonder what any other person thinks? HandsomeBoy (talk) 21:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That seems to confirm my earlier thoughts. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Tyap language
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tyap language that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you!!HandsomeBoy (talk) 19:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge
Would love to see more editors participating in this challenge and seeing more entries coming in from Nigeria on a diversity of topics ♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your work on Wikipedia. I'd add one or two vital articles before it closes. 2016 is a long time. HandsomeBoy (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2024 (UTC)