Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Objectivism/Archive 2

Lack of sources
Be advised, the page on We the Living is currently devoid of sources. I added IMDB as an external link, but much more needs to be done. A list of all projects falling under WP:RAND in need sources should be compiled. -- Sharkface T/C 05:16, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
 * The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
 * The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
 * A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot  ( Disable )  21:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Libertarianism
Here is a new Wikiproject, WikiProject Libertarianism. Feel free to sign up and help out. Thanks, EVCM (talk) 23:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Objectivism
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 23:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Inactive WikiProject?
Is this WikiProject effectively inactive? No posts to this WikiProject's talk page other than bots and automated messages for the last 4 months - since June 2008... Cirt (talk) 22:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It was inactive, then about four months ago I gave it a makeover and recruited the editors you see as members today. We haven't got up and running yet. the skomorokh  23:02, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Doesn't seem worthwhile to retain a WikiProject with zero posts to the talk page or activity on the talk page of any kind that is not bots or automated for over three months. Cirt (talk) 23:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We can use this page if we need to raise an issue centrally; thus far we have been using individual talkpage threads. If you want to MfD the project, please feel free. If you want to join us, you're more than welcome. But otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you left our set-up in peace. the skomorokh  23:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay okay, it just seems not worth it to retain if it's inactive. If you say that the participants are active and the WikiProject is more than one individual, sounds good. Cirt (talk) 23:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Archival
I see no reason not to archive the oldest thread, we can keep the 4 newest threads, and if need be set the archival to archive things older than three months, instead of one. Cirt (talk) 23:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Archiving is for when pages get too long (60k+). I think it is safe to say that there is no risk of that here. Why the compulsion to mess with what is not broken? the skomorokh  23:10, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a useful tool to archive old/inactive posts that just sit there for over three months with zero activity or new posts in those discussion threads. Cirt (talk) 23:12, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * An empty talkpage is better than an old one? I don't think so. If the project members feel a need to archive our discussions automatically in future, we will implement your system. Until then, thanks for taking in interest, but the measure is not needed. Regards, the skomorokh  23:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay then. The archival is there in the history to retrieve if you change your mind. Cirt (talk) 23:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it, thank you. the skomorokh  23:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Good luck getting more active participants. Might be worthwhile to think about a collaborative article-drive or other types of incentivizing ideas. Cirt (talk) 23:31, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Requested articles / potential articles / possible DYKs
I saw these two are listed on the main page. Any other requested articles / potential articles / existings stubs, that could be possible DYKs ? Cirt (talk) 00:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Edwin Locke
 * Ed Hudgins
 * The New Individualist
 * Here is one more: Ayn Rand: A Sense of Life. Cirt (talk) 00:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I added Ed Locke. In addition to being a well known advocate of Objectivism, he is a world renowned psychologist. He is THE LEADER in his field of industrial and motivational psychology. That should warrant a page at some point Endlessmike 888 07:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration / quality improvement drive?
Has this project ever had a collaboration / quality improvement drive before? If so, what article(s) were improved? If not, it might be a good idea to have a WP:GA or even WP:FA drive in an attempt to motivate more participation along a common collaborative goal. Cirt (talk) 00:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Possible Portal?
If enough articles (say at least 10 on general topics and 10 on notable individuals) could get up to at the very least B-Class or higher, with no unsourced portions in the articles and good referencing, there might be enough material on this topic for a portal, and perhaps a featured portal drive. Might be best to work on the above suggestion, a quality-improvement content-collaboration drive on a few articles, first. That way there would be more B-Class, or ideally GA and FA class articles to work with. Cirt (talk) 00:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, nevermind, better to work on getting 10 WP:GAs on general topics and 10 other WP:GAs on biographies of notable individuals related to the topic, before switching gears to a portal. Cirt (talk) 00:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Project Watchlist?
Does this project have a Watchlist? If not, it would not be too hard to set one up if that is something the project is interested in. For example, see: WikiProject The Simpsons/Watchlist. Cirt (talk) 00:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Recognition?
Does this Project have some setup for recognition of content work related to this topic? For example, WP:ORE has DYK service awards which seems to be a positive way to motivate editors, and WP:MILHIST has a few different types of Awards. I think the WP:ORE idea might be a simpler way to start out. Cirt (talk) 00:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. &mdash; Delievered by §hepBot  ( Disable )  on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 06:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Article alerts
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If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the  parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

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Thanks. — Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:30, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Start Fresh
How about we zap the participant list, the to-do list, and archive this page?

I think zapping the participant list is simple enough, we just need someone willing to leave a short note on each user-page. Then folks can sign themselves up again if they are indeed interested. Karbinski (talk) 16:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)