Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Open/Open access task force/Wikimedia at OAI8

Remote greetings
I want to hear how this goes! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:56, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * We're setting the session up now - feel free to chime in any time. -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 13:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Overall structure
A general summary of WikiProject_Open_Access would be welcome: what different groups do, in which languages; what these efforts look like in a few major languages. A review of wiki* in residence, and why that has been a helpful model to so many institutions.

I think for many even in this audience, this will be their first exposure to the concept of a wikiproject and, while they may know of colleagues or archives that worked with Wikimedia, they won't have the details - nor know how to get involved themselves. – SJ  +

Aims: Presentation vs. Creation
Giving a thorough presentation, and having a workshop where people come up with new ideas, seem like diverging goals to me.

I like the idea that some new guidelines might be developed. One idea for a progression:
 * An introduction: the importance of OA to wikimedia, past initiatives. WM as broadcasting platform for open knowledge. WM as community of practice open to all.
 * A brief set of examples: what sorts of [OA] reuse are possible / welcome / actively requested.
 * A brief set of public questions from the whole group
 * Breakouts into groups discussing guidelines: a) things publishers/archives can do, b) things WM projects can do.  Explicit focus on creating something new; trying to get every attendee involved.
 * (each group with at least one Wikimedian.)

If the goal is to make something, that would take at least 30 minutes of focused effort (separate from presentation and Q&A), and can work better with groups of 4-10. Then you could close with a discussion of what those groups considered most important -- and a single place where people could come to propose new OA projects. Helping everyone end up on the same talk page, for future questions or to launch a new project, would be a lovely outcome. – SJ  +  11:17, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I had initially planned to use an Etherpad to have everyone on the same page, but there is too few power outlets in the rooms here for that to work. Your other comments are currently being worked in. -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 10:20, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Slide comments
Popularity - the medical pageviews table could just show one data point per year.

How to check - a screenshot that circles where to find history-page statistics links would help.

How to cite - Clarify how to add footnotes/references. – SJ  +  11:17, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I made modifications to all three of these pages based on these suggestions and I intend to do a bit more before the presentation. Thanks for the feedback.  Blue Rasberry    (talk)   15:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice. I combined the old Team and empty Start slide into a single Welcome slide; with a table of contents.  (which may not be helpful to show on-screen, but it helps visualize the two-layer slidestack a bit, at least for those browsing on the wiki.)  If there are related ideas raised by some of the presentations so far -- Rob Sanderson's comments about the annotation suggest it's a sort of knowledge that may fall between 'Data' and 'Text' and should be OA as well -- that's worth including as well.    –  SJ  +  22:05, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Questions and comments
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